Tampa Bay nursing school loses accreditation; students lose credits, time and money
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2021
- A Tampa Bay nursing school with a record of complaints that lost accreditation and is on probation with the state because of licensing test failure rates continues to recruit students for the $20,000 program.
The entire school admin should be in jail for fraud. These poor people have to start all over and pay out of pocket again.
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Lord have mercy...this is sad
Sorry that this happened to these students. Double check into President Biden/Democrat recently passed student loan forgiveness stimuluses.. *I believe there are also special provisions for these exact situations where students victimized in this way can file for the student loan forgiveness as well.
- God Bless Everyone
Who on earth agrees for this?? Guess we can not stop stupid. Also do not give your money to a....ummm anything this obvious scam. Losing that cash is the lesson. Idiots.
@Trump Grass You know what? Stupidity is a Disease and your ass is ate up with it. Take your Guffy Unedumacated Self on somewhere. Talking about "your people". GTFOH.
Don't go to a school that looks like a former night club.
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Or that advertises during Jerry Springer
😂😂 seriously. Am I the only one who doesn’t feel bad for them?
@@dartagnansosa6707 no I don't feel bad either. What do you expect from a "school" looking like that?
😂🤣🤣
Honestly, I wouldn’t want any nurse who became a nurse in less than a year.
The only way for one to become an RN in a year is if an individual is already a Licensed Vocational/Practical Nurse in there state. These LVN/LPN'S can do a Bridge RN program which does take a year or 3 semesters at a accredited nursing school registered with a States Nursing Board. I know in the state of California LVN/LPN's have this option. I cannot speak for other states as I live in California.
Medical assistants can get their certification in less than a year, but they aren't allowed to do much. They can administer some medications, draw your blood, etc.
How would you even know?
@Z N A lot of people don't know that, they assume that anyone helping a doctor must be a nurse. Hope the OP realizes that someone without a degree has definitely worked on them multiple times...lol
Umm, there are accelerated nursing programs for nursing students with non nursing bachelors degrees who have completed the prerequisites. Finishing in a year at an accredited school doesn't matter because if you don't retain any valuable info you won't be able to pass the nclex-rn.
It's called an ABSN...
this happened to my mom. she went to a dental assistant school program for 2-3 years and it turns out the school president was stealing money and it was shut down. she studied so hard all those nights just trying to make a better living for us as kids and it was for nothing
2-3 years class for dental assistant? Sheesh.
That should take months. A year at most. That sucks that they lied to her
Dental assistant or hygienist? That’s a strenuous degree to get into for nothing.
Dental assistant is not a 2-3 degree. It takes about 10 months for a certificate.
@@StudentNurseMomFiance wrong! Some colleges, Tech schools offer a two year AS- Dental assisting degree, it helps if you wanna become a hygenist.
First Red Flag: Becoming a RN in less than a year
some schools offer an accelerated degree, but it is usually highly exclusive and very difficult. A friend of mine was accepted into one such prgram at ECU where you can become an RN in one year. The program only accepts 25 students annually, and the campus is connected to a hospital. It was an intense year for her. I think class was more weekly hours than a full time job.
@@Rock_star1620 Yes, my friend had already completed a bachelor's and had all her sciences. I neglected to mention the prerequisites. I never know whether to count those in programs like this one and the PharmD program.
You technically can if you have an undergrad degree in something related to science (ie. Kinesiology, chem, bio, physics). I know SUNY Binghamton has an accelerated program which is only 30 credits.
Exactly !!! That would have been red flag for me.
I was in an accelerated program it took me 3 years to become a RN, BSN not a joke is the hardest thing I have done in my life, now I’m working on my ACNP and is not as hard as my BSN.
No student can become a RN in less than a year unless they already had a lot of college credit. This had red flags all over it.
Even then it’s not possible. I was able to transfer in electives but had to still take the nursing classes. I was working in the healthcare field already too.
Ya as far as I know an AAS RN is two years.
They targeted low income students who would not be able actual know if that’s true
@@stephaniemc9948 it's possible in accelerated BSN programs. But to be eligible for an accelerated program you have to already have a bachelor's degree.
But you are right, the vast majority of programs take longer than a year
Transition course but that's it. Regardless as mentioned red flags all over it. I have two doctors, 1 nurse practitioner , many registered nurses and one licensed practical nurse in my immediant biolgical family most in the Tampa Bay are . Though I have a lot of medical professionals in my family and a first responder myself but not in medical, I do know that people can not claim a title that they are not. She is a CNA so I am positive she claimed she was a registered nurse or higher to her students. There is no way she did not claim it therefore she should be facing criminal charges there also.
Never ever go to a school that’s struggling with accreditation. The last thing you need is a school that is struggling to stay open. Never apply to them either
I learned that the hard way unfortunately with this pandemic
Facts. I’m only applying to community colleges and universities. Anything else is not worth it
If it's a FOR PROFIT school...stay far away
this school had red flags all over it, I’m not sure how people didn’t find this suspicious
That and they don't check the status of the school or the reason why it's on probation. Recently, I almost signed up with a out of state nursing school. They were charging about 30k and making similar whack claims. When i started to do research into the school, i found out that the school was in" trouble" (to put it nicely).
Am I the only one that noticed the DON (Director of Nursing) wasn’t even a registered nurse. She had an expired CNA license. How can you expect to teach someone something you haven’t acquired yourself. This is a mess in itself. I feel horrible for these people and the effects this will have on their lives.
No I seen this also she is just a Nurse assistant
Don't people search for accreditation online? Goodness we can easily find licensing online for any state on any practicing professional... my heart goes out to everyone of these students for all the time and money wasted at this school. I hope they get their money back from these scammers
@@4islandbeauty I've attended a few different schools between my undergrad and masters degree and that's always my first question
That’s such a glaring insanity
@@4islandbeauty The problem is with the board.
They reported and it didnt fix it
Be suspicious of a school that doesn’t have any skills labs, clinical hours, or where the highest ranking member of the school is a CNA. Everyone of my professors is an RN, NP, or some doctorate of Nursing. If you’re in a nursing school and only being taught by CNAs, that’s a major red flag.
Omg yes. If they have a cna teaching nursing courses , run
How can anyone believe this was a good idea if a cna is teaching you how to be a rn 😓
I decided to go back to school for graphic design and photography. So apparently an art school is requiring students to learn and use cameras and software most people never touch. So by the RNs schools logic a photographer needs more education then an RN
Yes all my professors and clinical instructors either had their MSN, or doctorate
WTF???
“Read on your own, learn on your own” is basically true for nursing school, generally lol
It shouldn’t be so many nurses are clueless theses days
I think she means she had no guidance from the professors
And definatly check if the school has accredidation before anything else.
It shouldn't be that way. Why should someone have to pay $20,000 to learn to be a nurse, only to be told "just look it up lol I ain't here to teach you"?
Just about all majors in college lol
The building it self is a huge red flag. Looks like a back alley bootleg liquor store.
this story deserves more attention. I hope GMA picks it up.
No I won't because I already happened again it's not news anymore
Oh please, most people spend more time on their social media profile photos than anything real these days.. The end has started. prepare for impact.
This is happening all over the country in shady schools.
Remember tRump University?
@Fern Green
You are correct, and I stand by the association.
GMA?? 🤮🤮
Why would they ever think they could get their RN in less than a year???
what's scary is that more than half still became licensed. That means, a few folk were sacrificed in order for that learning curve to take place. Blood is on the student's and the school's hands.
@@supertenor561 I caught that too. So then technically one can get license as a RN in just a year?
The only way for one to become an RN in a year is if an individual is already a Licensed Vocational/Practical Nurse in there state. These LVN/LPN'S can do a Bridge RN program which does take a year or 3 semesters at a accredited nursing school registered with a States Nursing Board. I know in the state of California LVN/LPN's have this option. I cannot speak for other states as I live in California.
@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN If you become a CNA and then a LPN you can become a RN in a year since an LPN takes half of that time off because you're doing twice the amount of work. So it's not an easy thing to achieve.
There are also ABSN (accelerated bachelor's of nursing) programs for those who already have a bachelor's degrees and want a BSN that can last anywhere from 1 year- 18 months. Of course several prereqs are required and it is very rigorous/ complete torture. This place just looked like bullshit though...
I can’t imagine these people didn’t do more research on the “school” that offered no financial aid. All reputable schools have financial aid departments.
It’s the nursing equivalent of a “coding boot camp”
@@c0dead yep sadly.
Sometimes there are things you don't know that you don't know. Especially if you're a first generation college student, there are some meta aspects about looking up a college that you might not know.
True. I graduated from WGU recently. They're entirely online and sound similar to this school in some respects, but they're regionally accredited and get both state and federal financial aid.
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CNA teaching students to be an RN??? What the what?? Hell she ain't even a RN. Sad this happened 😢..Smh
Crazy
They should be in jail, it’s hard enough finding money for school but to dedicate your time to a fraudulent institution is even worse
I am as angry with Florida as the school. I had trouble with a school I attended and tried filing complaints just like these students. All the government does is ask the school for an excuse, any excuse, and then they rubber stamp it and close the case. Our tax dollars literally pay the people who are supposed to protect us for doing less than nothing. Instead of help, they validate the school by accepting its excuse. They never investigate or talk to witnesses or anything. They just send out form letters and close cases. These students deserved better and they deserved help getting their money back.
Welcome to my experiences with mildred elley.
The organizers are black. They don’t know any better
@@alexbartley3610 oh fuck off dylan.
100% agreed. It’s fraud.
The charges should be escalated too because of the highly foreseeable likelihood their subpar training would put people in their care at risk of harm.
Not the students fault - they are victims here and my heart goes out to them. Whatever dark triad psychopaths were capable of PROFITING off of this reckless, wanton deception, they need to have 100% of their assets STRIPPED and be put in prison for a very long time.
Remember there's no shortcuts to becoming an RN nurse a lot of work and dedication.
Yep just go to a large community college and transfer, cheaper but still gotta do the work.
You’re so right. It takes A LOT of work and dedication. And you can never stop learning, even after you graduate. You have to continually be educating yourself-not just to keep your license current but also to keep up with advancements in your specialty.
@@freedomofspeech2420 you understand there are two different nursing degrees, right? And that the “community college” ADN RN path isn’t necessarily the best one? More and more positions require RN’s who have a BSN for several reasons, including: BSN RN’s have autonomy in decision making, are capable of adopting leadership, administrative, and educational roles; studies show that patient outcomes are improved under BSN prepared nurses; BSN nurses have better NCLEX first-time pass rates; and more hospitals are tying accreditation and hospital status (such as “magnet hospital” status) to the percentage of BSN vs ADN RN’s just to cite a few.
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Yesssssss
My mom went to this school and she went through HELL and back, everyone i know that went there had all similar experiences
Awful awful find that owner !!!!
So she is a full fledged rn? Did she have a hard time passing nclex?
My mom too. This Jenna lady was all I heard about in 2012
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*That woman should go to jail, smh. FRAUD|SCAM She ruined these folks’ lives, wasted their time, and took ALL their money for NADA. 🤦🏼♀️*
the front of the place looks just like a scientology building
😂😂😂
It’s located in the right area!
More like a night club
My urethra is on fire.
The sad part is these were hardworking students who wanted to learn, first generation college students, and they were taken advantaged of. For first generation college students, they don’t always know the right questions to ask.
I definitely see that at my university right now. Some take the wrong classes for their major causing them to stay longer.
We dont know that they were hardworking, they willingly enrolled in a program that lasted one year... I'd say they were looking to cut corners honestly. Lll
@@donkeballs386 not to mention they ignored all the massive red flags.
@@BeanieNinjay0 If you're a first generation student at college, you don't even know what the red flags are 🤣
@@shinstantramen5169 yeah. Upbringing is really important. A lot of uneducated parents couldn't help them see the "red flags." People judging them are privileged. (And probably also had vastly different upbringings+parents)
My niece got her B.S.N at Barry University and don't have to worry about this. Its 2 yrs to get your Associates in Nursing and 4 yrs for your Bachelors.
Yea, honestly this is their own fault. As a 15 yr old wanting to be a nurse even I can CLEARLY tell just from looking at the building that whatever they offering is bullshit lmao
The place looks like a scam from the parking lot. C’mon man.
As a senior nursing student I can only imagine how the students are feeling right now 😭😭😭 ....
Why, they aren't learning anything or going through the rigorous task of a real nursing program? They took an easy way and it blew up in their dumb faces. This is the medical field and it's terrifying to think any of these people could've gotten their hands on a patient at some point. They had to know damn well that place wasn't appropriate for learning nursing but just thought it was an easy way to get a good paying career
@@JMac-27 bro they are young kids trying to make something of themselves relax
@@JMac-27 “Pull yourself up by your bootstraps” head ass shut the fuck up. They didn’t know it was a scam School, they thought they were being given an amazing opportunity and you’re mad that they took it? They were paying their hard earned money these aren’t rich people with daddy’s money who can afford an expensive nursing school. They wanted to succeed and work hard like anyone else hence why they’re reporting the school for scamming them. They’re not embarrassed they’re angry.
@@ang1692 💯💯 smh..it's wierd and odd how some people think.
Saaaame
No shade on the students.... but this is why you always check reviews and accreditations. *Especially* if you're taking shorter certification/associate programs. And how the heck did this school stay open?! That's insane.
The cash only was the biggest red flag haha. Like what the hell. Stop being cheap and go to a good school.
@@TheSweetForever Yeah most people can’t afford college or schooling. I can understand that about going to better schooling but this was a special circumstance , which is awful
@@Susono09 they wasted a bunch of time and money. They could have went to a state school that is accredited. Nursing programs are everywhere now. Taking the easy route is always the best.
No. This is why the state garatees education. So scammers cannot take peoples money and create a poorly trained workforce! Education should be free!
@@trowawayacc cant be free you have to pay the teachers to teach you, get supplies, pay hospitals to allow students to practice, liability insurance etc. Thats coming out of the student not the people teaching you and going through the legal aspect to be allowed to teach you. You're unrealistic. No one will work for free no matter what. But anywho those students atleast deserve their money back since what was promised to them was not met.
As a nursing student i would have been devastated it takes a lot of work to become a nurse OMG !!!
I'm a nursing student too but there were so many red flags..
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I used to work uncover with the California Board of Vocational Nursing. In my time of a year or so, I helped shut down more than a dozen schools for many of the same reasons in this report. It is an all too common problem. Owning a school of nursing is a HUGE cash cow for about the first five years until the boards of nursing catch up to their low board pass rate scores. All I can say is student beware!
And this is why you should check with your state BON to see which school has accreditation before you even register for that school. You can save time and money.
Yes Board of Nursing shows alot but ppl be simply to lazy to research their work
They lost accreditation, so they had it before. A student may search and see that they had accreditation when that student decides to start.
We should’ve be too quick to past judgement on others or say “good for them”
Simple wish them well. Hope they get refunded or a program is created where they can be test for certain content rather than having to redo all those classes.
@@auroraautumn8764 💯💯💯💯
lesson learned like anything in life, it happens to us all
@@auroraautumn8764 guess they didn’t listen to the same story we listened to!
CNAs are still needed, MAs are still needed, LVN/LPNs are still needed, Associate Degree RNs are still needed, but you have to start off at a community college most of the time. If you want to/can go for a BSN then by all means, but don’t get confused between an accelerated BSN program and a vortex looking to drain you of your money. Always do your research and look into all your options, not just the quicker ones. The time will always be passing by, but it’s what you do with it (not how fast you do things) that matters.
That’s very true!
it all comes down to "Buyer Beware"...any school with a name like this one deserves a lot of looking in to
First look at the building and I was like oh hell no. Until then I had assumed the story was going to be about a legit school.
@@chcarroll5164 YES! That’s what caught my attention. It’s still really sad, though.
@@uniqwiab8679 m o)
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The outside of that school, looks sketchy as hell haha. I never attended a college I never heard of. 😂.
Right or a college that your high school probably has never talked about😂
One of the thing you should do when you choose a school is to find those who graduate from that school, and ask them questions.
I'm sorry but the fact that they said you could complete a nusring degree in less then a year, that when I would have know something was wrong
I don't feel sorry for them I actually don't. They should have learned from ITT tech scandal in Everest
@@alfredoalcantar8691 that’s what I automatically thought about
@@alfredoalcantar8691 yeah when I said I'm sorry I mean more of I'm sorry that people are just stupid. Cause I'm looking into nursing and even the small for profit ones that I've talk too ( I'm not going to a for profit school) NEVER said it could be completed in less than a year
That's not actually the alarming part because accelerated nursing programs exist however they require other college coursework and non nursing bachelor's degrees to attend. TBH the name of this school alone would have sent me in the other direction!
Ive heard of two years being considered fast paced, but less than a year seems suspicious.
My god this needs more attention. My heart breaks for these nurse hopefuls, this is nothing but a scam for people that want to help others. The person that owned this “school” MUST be held responsible for wasting their time and money as well as damaging their trust in people. Shame on that school
@@Rock_star1620 well said
They need to refund them!
I concur; as well as, the department of education.
@@Rock_star1620 Biggest Fact in the universe!💯
There's a sucker born everyday!
No RN program takes less than a year to finish at least 3-4 years especially for your bsn degree. Smh, I feel so bad for those students that went to that school. It is so important to do your research before you do anything nowadays!
ABSN is 15 months
I’m sorry, but if you’re that clueless about whether or not you’re attending an accredited school, you shouldn’t be a nurse. Nurses need good critical of thinking skills and well, you get the point....
"We could'nt learn an I.V". The most basic of skills denied. Hopes and prayers for those students that got caught up in this scam. Keep trucking, the world needs you
Check out UPS truckers, yes we make more than doctors.
They would have been better off going to medical assisting school. Even that is 18 months.
@@stephanies7284
Jesus 😂
@Horizontal Hormones placing an IVC is absolutely, 100% a basic skill. There are levels to it- a PICC line is obviously more difficult but should be a skill mastered. I started as a vet nurse- let me tell you, starting an IVC on a dehydrated dog that’s trying to bite your face off and flopping around left and right taught me very quickly to study the anatomy vigorously. Drawing blood from fractious cats (when we did not shave the fur to do so) helped when I transitioned to human med lol. Every nurse should be confident in IVC skills.
Placing an IV is a skill you learn when when you start working. You can watch your preceptor place an IV. I’m a nurse but I won’t allow a nursing student place an IV on me. There are many good nurses who don’t know how to place an IV.
Some people say, "Don't judge a book by its cover," but...
(looks at school building)
Hell, no.
Crying 😂😂😂
_beachside funeral home_
When looking for my nursing program I only searched for programs listed directly on ACEN OR CCNE’s website. Nursing school was a beast and accreditation is the last thing someone should have to worry about! Just sad
I’m looking to go into nursing after graduating highschool and I hope I get accepted. Are there any tips for nursing school you would like to share. I am a A and B student and I don’t know if I would do well
@@ebony203 You would do just fine!! You got this... The best tip I could give is learn how to do NCLEX style questions BEFORE MedSurg... I survived nursing school with UA-camr RegisteredNurseRN literally at one point we just stopped listening to our teacher lectures and watched hers she has a topic on EVERYTHING
@@ebony203 don't become a nurse. Anything is better as a career.
Had a buddy fall for one of these schools for Ultra sound technician, it cost him 2 years +30k. He graduated and his certification was useless. He went back to school for 4 years and became a RN. It was a long road.
It’s so hard to accept there are people who make their way in this world doing this to people. What monsters!
Actually, this is exactly how the world works.
Survival of the fittest, Do Unto Others Before They Do It To You, etc., etc.,
Not saying it's right, but this is the way of the world.
It’s hard to accept they’re ppl out here who won’t even research let alone read up on different schools an compare. Had they done that maybe they would of past it up. However they didn’t cuz it was a gd deal. A deal that was too good to be true. What RN school only charges 20k an is 1 yr. clearly they lady lied on the paper work. An then again I don’t kn what the requirements are to start a school business. Either way they got taken by themselves & the owner of the school.
It should made harder for private groups to open these types of schools.
I'm not one to blame the victim here, either. If you want people to make good choices, don't defund those choices to make it prohibitively expensive.
How do you think the USA started! You shouldn’t be surprise
No, the hardest thing to accept is that there are mufos in the government helping these s o b's steal from poor people who are trying to better themselves and their families. Kick backs still exists and that so called director had help higher up in that criminal activity. All of them need prison time.
If the director of the school is a CNA you should run! The director should be a PhD or DNP period! They tried to get a degree the easy way and are now paying the price.
Exactly 😂 CNAs can’t even teach student CNAs, it has to be a RN or LPN.
I know jack shit about nursing but I know enough to know a CNA shouldn’t be teaching me how to be a nurse 🤣
@@laurenhills239 it shouldn’t ever be an LPN neither. It should only be an RN, BSN
@@arleneaugustahair8393 true
@@arleneaugustahair8393 that’s correct u need a RN BSN to teach anything nursing wise or to outside of clinical care which mean bedside
Nursing education programs in the U.S. are in crisis but governments are not disrupting these diploma mills.
I know so many poorly performing kids from high school that received their nursing degrees from accelerated, online programs.
The bigger frightening trend is Nurse Practitioner programs with so many low quality programs. These NP graduates are then in control of your health, trusted to do wide range of diagnostics and prescribe medications they have no experience with. I speak to medical doctors who are afraid of NPs they work with.
Happened to me with an art academy i went to...such a waste of time and money. My heart goes out to those students
Happened to me with the National Institute of Technology which rebranded itself as Fortis College once the lawsuit happened. They still have their accreditation they got after I was scammed out of High School. Despite constant complaints in reviews of lousy methods and outdated equipment
@@EarlFaulk so sorry that happened to you too
I’ve been a CNA for 10 years. Are you telling me I can move to Florida and open an RN school?
Indeed, Republicans love to deregulate education because it's "nothing but a piece of paper".
It was a scam by the CNA and that is why she is in hiding.
@@joelwillis2043 to become an accredited nursing school you have to go through more than the “ republican politicians” that run Florida.
Yeah girl everyone else is doing it hell
Lol I at least have an associates degree 😂
The school's name ALONE should have sent prospective students running!
I went through nearly the same thing, thank god my program didn’t get on probation but I completely understand how these students feel. Clinics were a joke and everything was read and learn on your own. Now that I am a nurse I struggled in the beginning a lot cuz I was severely unprepared
When your "college" is the size of a convenience store, you should be questioning things 🤣
Not true what you need to do is look up to see if their credited. Trump Unv. The very big Sallie Mae schools that was sued. A school can lose it to so you can not go by hoe big it is, or small you have to research and be sure because their will take your money. Some school will close their programs, but like this evil school they did not.
@@Pulapaws shut up Karen. I didn't say the size = accreditation. I said it should make you question things. Be gone! 🤣😂🤣
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@@brianbest6097 I had my suspicions about ECPI. I was tempted because my employer has a partnership with them for tuition reimbursement but my gut says no.
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First rule: don’t go to a nursing school who’s director is a former CNA.
Wtf does that mean
@@cognitivedissonance7362 certified nursing assistant. Nowhere close to being a registered nurse.
The problem is she is a former CNA and nothing else. Plenty of nurses are former CNAs but she literally has no formal nursing education
@@KissMyLocs are you from Tampa? You are very attractive
This is the thing u can't just make a comment like that u know how many people who are RNs that don't do shit but expect the techs to do everything
A lot of people don't seem to understand how accreditation works... it's the passing rate of the NCLEX that drives accreditation. If a school is graduating students that are failing the boards, their accreditation is on the line. There are many universities that have lost accreditation due to this, you just don't hear it on the news as much. Schools can also become accredited again after presenting a plan of action to the Board of Nursing in their state.
I’m sorry but that’s kinda the students fault too. How would you not see all the red flags... like literally look at the building. And why would you think you can become a RN in less than a year??
Fr, no clinical skills or clinical experience & you don’t get suspicious & drop out? Come on y’all.
They attended a one-room, private, for-profit school without doing any of her own research into the school, graduation rates, employment options, etc. It’s unfortunate for them all, but it’s embarrassing for those who bought the admissions sales-pitch hook, line, and sinker.
Getting into Nursing School is incredibly difficult and competitive. Some people get desperate and desperate people make poor decisions
@@zacharyfletcher4253 Sadly there are a lot of these “schools” that are purely in it for profit and don’t give a rats ass about giving people a quality education.Even a lot of colleges are like this.
@@BrooklynBalla it's sad that there are people out there that are willing to lie and manipulate others for profit. Shame on these schools for scamming their students.
@@BrooklynBalla same with some teaching programs, Shawnee state in Ohio is awful.
@@BrooklynBalla So true !!
Administrator was a CNA, running a nursing school.
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I know right! Red flag!
Yeah big red flag Right there
That should have been their first clue that it was not legit!
Right, same thing I said in my post, you don’t have the education to do that... she would have came off better doing a CNA school instead, and in Georgia you must be a RN with a master’s or above to teach anyway..
For the most part, college is only worth a piece of paper at the end. Especially if you’re just being assigned things and teaching yourself anyway. With internet and libraries, the current college system is beyond obsolete. It’s saddening and frustrating.
Nurses do more than read though lol
@@deborahamos5401 Nobody said they didn’t. All professions require more than just reading, not just nursing. It doesn’t change the fact that people can teach themselves these things at home. You can even create or own lab at home for pretty cheap nowadays. It depends on how bad you want it. People just don’t want it that bad and make excuses.
@tyler Emerson ummm, unless you need a license to work; teachers, barbers, and pretty much anyone in healthcare careers, just to mention a few
@@dulcerodriguez3681 That still doesn’t change that fact that you can learn these things on your own. What we need to do is have different outlets to acquire licenses for people who do have the courage to teach themselves. So ummmmmmm...... try again. Take your toxicity somewhere else.
@@1willttwill1 Professors are specifically trained to teach; trying to cram years worth of material online is never going to be better than learning from professionals with experience in the field. That 'piece of paper' means that your professors recognize that you now have expertise in your chosen field.
it's not just the DIRECTOR JENA fault , it's the WHOLE DAMN SCHOOL
This is really disturbing, especially given how much I rely on nurses when I go to the ER or have surgery. I had my 12th Hydrocephalus related surgery last September, and it was the nurses who did the bulk of the caring for me. One time when I was in the hospital, I started having a petit mal seizure, and my nurse recognized it. She stayed with me until I was okay. I’m eternally grateful to her!
Nurses are lifesavers! I have hydro too. It’s a nightmare.
@@Missab4000 hello fellow Hydro Warrior! I sometimes talk about Hydrocephalus on my UA-cam channel channel, if you’re interested. I did a video a couple weeks ago where I talked about my quality of life with Hydrocephalus.
It is disturbing. A lot of places treats health as a money making business, instead of a way to help people. A surgeon was just sentenced to prison for performing sloppy surgeries. Instead of hospitals taking action, they just let him go so that he could be another hospital's problem
My daughter recently became an RN.
From what I can gather, these nursing students at this school, wouldn’t be able to pass the exam to be a nurse. Going to school for it means nothing if you can’t pass the exam, the NCLEX, which is a national exam, and is outside of the school. So basically these students were left having paid money, but done none of the actual hospital work (clinicals) along the way that actually gives the hands on training with real patients. So don’t worry, any nurses that pass the National exam, were trained properly. Graduation from a school doesn’t make you a nurse until you pass the National exam after that. My daughter graduated, but still had to take the national exam, the NCLEX. Most legitimate nursing programs are working with hospital programs to accomplish the hands on training after you’ve started and accomplished a lot of your book learning. Then you do both the hands on and more book learning. If a school isn’t doing that, you won’t be able to actually pass the National test and become a nurse, no matter how much you pay, or what grades that school gave you. You would still have to pass that exam. And you can’t manage that without those years of study and hands on.
So feel safe. Your nurses had to have been trained well to pass the National exam. Any students in doubt about a school program should ask real local nurses and doctors. They will know where the real training is done.
@@Seabreeezy thank you for taking the time to type all that out! I appreciate it. And thank you to your daughter for the work she does. I hope she is one of the nice ones!
I feel terrible for the students, but I'm glad they got shut down. I've been noticing the nursing care in the Tampa area has become quite subpar over the years, and I'm sure this is part of the reason why. These nurses admit themselves that they don't feel they have been properly educated before being sent out into the world, so it makes sense.
Not exactly shut down. Rather, the "school" is no longer accredited.
@@tintinismybelgian ah, ok. I'm sure it will eventually lead to their downfall nonetheless
You’re not wrong but nursing pay in Florida is some of the worst pay in the US aside from Mississippi and Alabama....that probably has a lot to do with the subpar nursing care and the fact that they have higher acuity patients due to the older population.
They lost accreditation, so that's essentially death in and of itself. Nothing can be transferred, no financial benefits/aid, etc. Very unfortunate situation for these students who not only paid for classes in this fraudulent school but they now have to do it all over again at a bigger university.
"nursing care in the Tampa area has become quite subpar over the years,"
What do you want? Miracles? Eternal life.. U WILL DIE even with the best care.
Most drugs, treatments dont do much.
I love how much they annoyed that lady but she still acted like they couldn’t reach her 😂
I hate glory holes.
This is horrible. Something similar happened with a dental assisting program I was attending. Started in Jan 2020, closed for the pandemic mid March 2020. We still had to attend virtual classes which, let’s be honest - isn’t the proper setting for these fields. Bursars was still calling trying to collect payments when we later learned they knew the school was shutting down since at least that April. Luckily I was able to get my loans dismissed because of school closure. These places are frauds.
Typical of the usa
Send this up to the state of Florida attourny general for civil actions.
Lol they are a joke this has been happening for over a decade now
I blame the florida board of education for giving these to schools a license.
Damn. That makes me so mad! Those poor students. Ugh I hope they can take their NCLEX Soon and become a nurse
I almost went to ITT Tech to be an architect. Thank god I decided to do general education at community college because ITT Tech closed down a year later.
Really?? I loved their commercials
That woman only had an CNA license. How in the world was she going to teach people how to be an RN??? In the words of President Joe Biden “ come on man” 😂😂
I’m not laughing at the students. I’m just confused to how she was able to convince them she was certified to be the director of the school.
I'm sure he went to the same school
CLASSIC GOLDEN STATE!
I’m laughing at the students. As an RN myself, I looked into nursing schools, were they accredited, was it a known school, what were their standards-how many people passed the NCLEX, etc. They should have known “become an RN in less than a year” was a bunch of BS. At least one student said they “knew it was too good to be true”. All of these people who attend these shitty, unaccredited schools-whether “online colleges”, “art school” or any other type of school have only themselves to blame. There are reputable universities in their areas they could have gone to.
@@NoDontLikeIt Agreed anyone applying to an ADN or BSN Nursing Program should know to look for ACEN or CCNE accredited schools with a good reputation from hospitals nearby. I still feel bad for the students. These for profit non accredited schools often prey upon non traditional students who may not have even graduated from high school and have not completed the necessary pre req courses that would be needed to apply to a real nursing school. As for online Nursing programs the only ones that are not scams are the RN->BSN fully online programs offered at accredited universities designed for ADN Registered Nurses who are licensed already with their Associates education to receive a Bachelor's degree in Nursing those programs are totally good and equivalent to all other BSN programs.
@@NoDontLikeIt So true. I'm a second degree future nursing student (program starts Fall) and I think these people got scammed because in general they're not very bright. Hell there was an ELM program in my area that was very enticing, however, in 2019, I went to their info session just to find out they too were on probation for poor test scores and could possibly lose their accreditation. I left and never looked back and shocker, they lost their accreditation June 2020.
TBH, if these students weren't aware of the importance of attending accredited programs especially in the medical field, I don't know that I'd trust them with my healthcare anyway. Hell the name of this program alone should've sent them running!
One year for your RN? Lol! It takes a lot longer than that people...why is a CNA teaching? You need an MSN to teach nursing! 🙄
Some nursing programs that are legit only take a year. I agree cna should not be the director and her license expired.
@@user-52z1 accelerated is 16 months
I’m in a 1 year nursing program. However, everyone in the program enters with another bachelors degree at the minimum, and all biology classes already completed.
@@user-52z1 CNAs have NO licenses. They are Certified only. I am not aware of any accredited program that is only one year! It takes 3 years for ADN (add in the pre nursing classes required to enter nursing program) and one year for your BSN-after your ADN. CNAs work UNDER the RN’s license. Getting a certification is NOT a License. People planning to go to nursing school need to think objectively and research was is required to get into an accredited nursing program. But it’s unethical to have people think they can go to nursing school in ONE year--that’s not true and it’s unsafe.
@@jeanbastien9424 scary
I wished they had a second chance with a proper school environment.
It usually takes 2 years to get an associates degree unless you have prior credits that can be applied towards the non nursing electives. In the past I have seen LPN's go into Associate degree Nursing programs and get out in a year, but they had taken summer and winter break classes in addition to the normal fall/ spring program. I believe it was an accelerated LPN to RN program that included summer Nursing classes. I have heard that some schools no longer give credit to LPN's, so they can skip the first semester of Nursing classes. Maybe someone who reads this may have a bit more information about this.
My total nursing education took 2 years to obtain an Associates degree. Then 4 years part time to obtain a BSN, while I worked full time. Years later I obtained a Masters of Science in nursing over 3 years part time, again while working fulltime. (Spring, summer, fall classes each year) Suspect any school that says they can offer a full degree in a year, gives credits for life experience, or they have suspect, or no accreditation.
imagine all the late nights they had to spend studying all day everyday for years on end for nothing to count
@Naiym1 🤣🤣🤣 This comment got me screaming!0
All for nothing!
@@Chinaglo24 it wasn't all for nothing. They can use all that knowledge to...
teach people which valves there blood goes in before going to the body?
What happens when those valves go bad?
.... nobody cares....
When my daughter was thinking about attending Nursing School I made sure that she looked at the accredited universities and colleges only.
Being a New Yorker we are accustomed to so called educational scams.
She opted for for an internship with NOAA, and now she's a Marine Biologist with her Master's Degree going for her Doctorate.
You must be very proud of her.Great job,Mom!!
I feel bad for every woman Ik that’s a nurse or aspiring to be one I hope they alright.
But not the men right?
Did they look up the school before applying? The other things should have been in the same page. Didn’t check any reviews?
I know! They got scammed..
They used to target black communities with this. Bankrupted some of my family members. Nothing was done about it. Good luck
It still doewnt look like anything is being done about it.This is going on all over the country,and its been going on for years.The government needs to step up,and stop this.
@@SHAWNA499 the government benefits from these practices. It's the people who have to declare change but for many, if its not their problem it's not a problem
@@who818 You have a good point.You are right.
@@SHAWNA499 I mean who doesn't do research on a school theyre gonna go to? Once i saw the location NOPE. Common sense
@@supersix-four9509 some of them are young people.just trying to make it.no experience.why can’t our people in government shut down these fraudulent fake schools.
This is screwed up! Paid all that money for absolutely nothing and now they have to pay credit cards, bank loans etc..
Bankruptcy
I went to the International Academy of Design and Technology. Tampa has no problem scamming eager students looking for education...
This school is advertising on fb and I inquired about them. I was very worried about this school because they would call me back to back. Wow I’m glad I didn’t not try and become a nurse with this school this is why I do my home work on schools.
I'm starting a nursing school. You wanna come ? Lol
These schools need to be shut down! I'm going through this right now pray for me 🙏 I've been trying not to lose my mind
Stay strong.you are going to make it.It has to be stressful.They really do need to shut down these schools.This has been going on too long.
Part of the problem is the accreditation bodies. They need to be much stricter on these schools from the start.
I'm sorry this happened to you. You're right, these schools NEED to be shut down. Not all of us had guidance and education to learn. Some high schools fall short at preparing their students for the future and educating them on for profit "college" like this. Education reform in this country has been a problem for a long long time
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Oh no, I am sorry this has happened to you :( I am also a nursing student and I feel how much work and sleepless nights we have to injure just to get our license. How is the case going? Did you also file a complaint? All the best🙏🙏
Biggest importance: Make sure the institution is accredited regionally. There are also national accrediting agencies but they do not have the merit as regional carries.
I could not imagine .. I graduated in the fall it was the hardest things I’ve done , I’d be SO pissed ..
My mom went to this school years ago😳 I knew it looked familiar. My mom had not passed her schooling her but then went onto another school right after and became an LPN. The stress this woman put my mom through😤
Go to a "state" community college for your first two years. It's cheaper and accredited. Then transfer your credits (English, Math, Science, History, Psychology, etc.) to a "state" accredited four-year university to complete a degree worth achieving. Otherwise, you're asking for nothing but more bills to add to your collection, with interest, while you remain that of a cashier/stocker forever more.
Great advice. I don't get why people don't take advantage of the community college system. They also don't talk to professionals in their field of interest - who are readily available - about where to go to school. You can't get something for nothing.
I’m doing cc this year and it’s been solid. Even online classes are pretty decent, but yeah I would do cc for nursing
@@florencedebear1576 here in California the high school teachers tell us we’re going to a university. They push it on teenagers even if they don’t know what they want to do in the future. They actually try to discourage them from going to community college first. It’s all about money for the universities.
@@bri827 the teachers at my school all encouraged us to attend the local CC. The CC has a pretty highly rated Nursing program and an agreement with the nearby CSU for a transfer to the BSN program. Depends on location I guess.
I did this and you are absolutely correct. I had very little in student debt after receiving my college degree. Such a blessing.
What's fucked up about the situation is that they can be acredited at the time you apply but, lose it by the time you graduate.
I had a PhD in science before I went into nursing school (with a bunch of credit), and it still took me 2 years to complete... one year is horse shit
I was considered a cna in my first sem of nursing school and was doing cna stuff in my clonicals, so that's normal. If they would ever look into sample NCLEX questions they would have realized that a year is not enough to study it in the first place
I feel sorry for these individuals; I can’t even imagine being @ the end of this strenuous, education journey like nursing to be set back and then denied access to take the NCLEX-RN.😔
I don't feel sorry for them. They went down other avenues of learning other than real community college or university and just tried to Pay-to-win on their careers. They just kept funnelling money, knowing they werent really being educated, and after a year expecting to be a registered nurse, which other people have to attend college for 4+ years to attain. Sorry but if youre paying $20k for tuition to a 'college' that has ONE room and not so much as a gurney or a CPR training dummy inside? Youre just overpaying for an adult daycare and nothing more. These grown adults should know better.
it was one year idiot and it was not an rn program
@@ObsidianJayMusic Your the idiot, she says she was told she could become a registered nurse in less than a year! Anyone who thinks they can get an accredited 4 year degree in less than a year is a fool. Not to mention, look at the facility. Does it seem professional to anyone.
Why they thought they could take a shortcut around the actual way of doing things and got scammed for it this is all their fault like who the fuck in their right mind puts down $20,000 without doing research on what they’re signing up for
@@queens6583 a nursing program is NOT a 4 year program. It's actually 2 years. 1 year of prerequisite courses and another year in nursing classes. So yes technically once you get into a nursing program it's only about 1 year.. this is for an associate's in nursing which allows you to take the NCLEX and be an RN.. the only thing that would take 4 years is if someone starts from the beginning and goes straight into a bachelor's nursing program.
First sign of a sketchy nursing program: the director is not a nurse
Same shit happened to me with Sanford Brown College. I was young and dumb and believed what they told me. Still have the student loans to pay on though. Cannot transfer credits to a reputable college and my "diploma" means little to nothing.
School really try to act like accredited doesn't mean anything but if it really acts your jobs search or getting higher education
Dont pay fight it
One look at that building
It seems so obvious that this is a scam school, but maybe that's because I actually went to college
I’m in nursing school right now and it’s hell on earth. I couldn’t imagine working this hard to leave empty handed. I feel bad for them, but there was a lack of research done on their part. I researched every program I applied to and made sure they were accredited and checked the NCLEX pass rates. I made sure to only apply to programs that had a 97% or higher pass rate. Also graduating as a RN in less than a year is super sketchy to begin with. I wish the best for them though.
Congrats! I'm in school for medical billing & coding.
One of my best friends went through nursing school and also held down a job. Took her a long time but she finally made RN.
All of them should hurry up and sue them. Get lots of money for all their wasted time and money... How horrible so sad.
This happened to me with a school I went to in Miami. Sent several complaints to the Florida Education Dept. no response. Meanwhile I owe 40k in student loans!
What school was it
@@thamarrelaroche6835 Dade medical college.
If it not a campus I’m suspicious. I will not do that one building in the parking lot that
You'll be hard pressed to find a nursing school these days with even a two-year associate degree. Most programs are moving to a bachelor degree as a minimum for nursing curriculum. I disagree with the students saying they shouldn't be doing "CNA" work ... it's imperative that nurses are experienced in all types of patient care. That includes knowing how to properly change sheets, bathe, feed, lift, etc. These tasks are often considered "CNA" or "nursing assistant" work, but as a nurse you'll be delegating these tasks to others and you must know if they're being done correctly... Geriatric nursing will almost always be where new nurses start their practicums for this very reason.
Not true, still plenty of associates degree programs exist.
A lot of people don’t realize the first term of nursing school is CNA work. I say this as a nursing student.
@@jamesnolen3934 I didn't say ADN programs didn't exist, however, the AACN came out several years ago with a position statement on academic progression in nursing. It highlights research connecting education to outcomes; and outlines the capacity of four-year colleges to enhance the level of nursing education in an effort to move towards a more highly educated nursing workforce. Acute care hospitals are showing a marked decrease in the number of ADN employed, and the nation's Magnet hospitals now require all nurse managers and nurse leaders to hold a baccalaureate or graduate degree in nursing and are encouraging all nurses to get their BSN.
@@ajt9745 As a retired RN (23 years as a practicing RN) this ADN vs. BSN stuff is a bunch of BS! I have an ADN (already earned a BA in psychology) and we don't need more "clipboard" nurses out there who don't want to get their hands dirty...worked with more than one like that....the many courses required of BSN students, e. g. statistics, nursing research, etc. are useless when it comes to patient care. I'll take an ADN-prepared RN over a BSN any day of the week!....just my humble opinion...not here to offend anybody, so PLEASE spare me the name-calling retorts!
@@Eric-yp9nc I totally agree that there will always be a need for nurses, no matter what degree they have. And those "clipboard" nurses you mentioned are often the biggest pains in our asses! I've been an RN for 20 years, and I have seen the direction in which "they" want nursing to go. I never said I agreed with it. I was simply stating a fact about the trajectory nursing was headed. With that being said, I'm not sure why you would pick one over the other -- there aren't any technical differences between an ADN and BSN, other than BSN nurses have a quicker pathway to adopting leadership, administrative and management roles. Congratulations on your retirement!
When applying for any nursing programs, you have to make sure that the programs you are applying for are accredited nursing programs.
It takes 4yrs to get your RN, this is just sad. People really want to follow their passion, these types of colleges needs to shut down
There are legitimate 2 year programs to be an RN.They are usually at community colleges and use local hospitals for clinicals. If you want a BSN then that is a four year degree. You can become an LPN in one year at a VoTech. Truly sad because a CNA cannot instruct some one to become an RN. I am sorry these women did not know thar.
Happened to my brother who was attending EMT school one day the Dean came un and said none of the instructors were certified to teach or certified at all
I wouldn’t trust that building let alone someone saying I could be an RN in less than a year. They barely let you become a medical assistant in 9 months, and that’s an accelerated rate!
she could have gone to community college and became and RN that way for less than 20K. Granted it would have taken her 2-3 years though...
I went through this same thing at a now defunct “college,” here where I am from but fully functioning in VA and Memphis, TN for the same reason.
I’ve told the DOE federal loan people all of this and have them appeal my student loan from said school but they gave me a wild goose chase.
This is heartbreaking and people need to be jailed and sued 😤