How To Get Super White Skull Mounts
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- How To Get Super White Skull Mounts
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Rubber stall mat or a piece of carpet to keep the antlers from getting concrete rash... Pet peeve lol.
Honestly we have never had a problem with that.
I've been using ya'lls process since the beginning....everything ya'll do is on the money and both you two do a great job of explaining it. Thank you very much and keep up the taxidermy videos.
Awesome! Thank you!
Thank you so much for teaching all this God bless you all!
Hello! I just watched your video on the methods you perform upon whitening your deer & elk skulls.
I have done 3 to date that turned out really well except for the fact that it took me hours of painstakingly amount of tedious work getting to all the holes, cracks & nasal area trying to brush off the dried creme that I'd brushed on it's entirety while cussing myself out loud for being so picky.
I did not know that I could of easily just power washed it all off instead. Boy, am I glad that I ran into your video as I've got 2 skulls of a friend's son that I said I'd do starting tonight.
I really appreciate you both taking your time and your expertise, to share them with others such as myself. It's really going to help me out in the long run.
Thankyou again and good hunting to you this fall. Sincerely; John C. Hill
Thank you for taking the time to teach us!
My pleasure!
What a great video. I had no idea how much work it take to clean a deer head. Love ❤ 5M . God bless you all.
Yes, it is a very long process. ha
really nice of you guys to share this.
Yes it is! Im new to doing mounts. I have alot of the skull from the animals i have trapped and dead heads for art work i live that they shared this
Great video!!! Very well done! I recently have started doing my own skulls and a few on the side for extra money. I have always boiled my skulls but started using a hot pressure washer. What a huge game changer. They are not cheap but it makes the process go way faster. No need to boil anymore. If you are doing 500 skulls it may be worth looking into. Keep up the great work!!
Thank you for your step by step instructions! I’m going to try the brain removal before boiling next season. I’ve never tried the powder before. I just paint on the cream bleach. I’ll give that a try next season too. Thank you for all your tricks and tips 🤩
It looks like alot of hard work. I've never seen the process. Y'all do a great job. Thanks for sharing!
Love from NC
Thanks! ❤❤
Y'all are awesome, whew that's a lot of work. Thank you for the video it was very informative and relatively easy to understand the what and why's. Many Blessings to y'all.
Thanks for watching!
A lot of work! I'm amazed how well you know every step, since it's confusing to me. Great job!
Lots of practice. 😏😏
Looks like a lot of hard work. If it works for you that's what counts. You tried someone else's way it didn't work out so stick to the way that works for you. Take care and stay safe. GOD BLESS Y'ALL.
Exactly! Thanks for the support. ❤
nice work!! i use a spray bottle to get in the nose area works well and it get in all the crevasses, i take all the nose parts as well
Great tip!
great video, I live upstate ny and do heads my self, wish I could put my heads out in the sun but this time of year there isn’t much of it and lot of snow on the ground. I boil with oxy clean and it seems to make the heads pretty white once I’m done pressure washing, I let them dry by the wood stove for about a week and I do the same whitening process. many ways to skin a cat👍🏻
Good job ...looks good
Not exactly sure on the size but you can buy them at most hardware and feed stores and they come in different sizes.
Cool Enjoyed 😆
Thanks for the visit
Your Guys are Great, Impressed with your Work Effort, and Ingenuity…. I have learned Some-Much…. I’m a hobbie-guy and enjoy doing
Are own skulls…. Thank You Again…
Great how to video. I run a side hustle taxidermy buisness as well and do roughly 100 skulls.y process is much the same as yours but in the whiting process I add heat. Just like processing hair under a heat dryer it activates the developer. I make my paste with Basic white and 40 volume apply it to the skull and then wrap it in a plastic grocery bag and place it near a jet heater for about 15 minutes. Wash and the sun dry. White as paper everytime as long as they are decreased well.
Thanks for sharing!
I do lots of elk- and the best way found for them is to boil them in liquid peroxide- they are greasier creatures who seem to benefit from that extra hot peroxide mixture.
I've had success- same as you- with the peroxide cream mixture on deer.
We don't disagree about th elk. The problem we ran into this year is we couldn't find the liquid peroxide within 100 miles of us. So, we had to resort to the cream for the elk.
Hi Tobin. Hope you and the family are doing well. You are such a hard worker and great provider for your family. What a messy job 😖
Thanks, Jodi. That is a wonderful compliment.
Man I'd love to see ya make a Playlist on you freedom mount business. Would love to see how you guys crank so many out any tips and all that. Thanks for these videos man can't wait to start my own thing.
Already have a playlist with several videos!
@@The5MFamily 🙄 I wasn't hitting show all lol thanks.
I’ve used the hair bleach in the past. Tried peroxide this year on a few. I dislike having to touch up antlers but like that the peroxide goes to the inside of the skull.
This process was the most effective way to not get on the horns.
Great video. Thank you. How do you match up the teeth and noses to the head and what do you use to reattach them?
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I do all my own. I’ve always boiled in peroxide. Turns out great and cover ever surface inside and out. But this year I was out of town and had to settle for oxyclean. Think it was the whites skull I’ve ever done.
In my opinion, the paste is just as much work and labor intensive if not more than simmering in the liquid developer
I think it boils down to a matter of preference. For me, wrapping horns, simmering, then touching up horns as needed is more labor intensive. With the volume of heads we do, this process works the best for us.
I just used plain water in a pot, power washed it after, then a little more boiling like 30 minute, elmers glue for the snout/ nose bones because they normally detach from boiling, all purpose hydrogen peroxide for a few days inside the brain cavity hole to rid the smell, and it's good to go. Mop n glo for a sealer so dust doesn't build up in the skull pores and that's it.
Sounds like a good process!
Have y’all tried putting a heat lamp over the skulls the same red heat lamp you use for baby chicks for another heat source
We have not. Those lamps get extremely hot, and if you aren't careful it could burn the bone. The best heat source we have found is the sun.
Great info thank you for your time!! Curious what size pot you use to boil? 100 or 80 QT?
Not sure the size, we get it at our local Tractor Supply or Atwoods. One pot can hold 4-5 heads at a time.
Thank you for the information, could i ask what you charge for a whitetail head? Great video.
Good grief. Those are a full time job by themselves. How did you guys get into doing this? It's amazing!
8 years ago we Tobin wanted to find a hobby that included hunting. It was a way to make extra income because at the time we were a 1 income household. From there he grew it every season, and now we did close to 500 heads.
200 watt heat lamp may work for heat source
Nice video. What brand of gas burners are you using to boil? I like that they sit so close to the ground and seem very stable.
Thanks for sharing this information It was very informative . Do you think this whitening technique will work well on older skulls that have been buried in the ground to remove hide and meat? The dirt seems to darken or stain the skull.
It may take a couple rounds, and may not be as white as others that aren't buried, but it can be done.
Would a couple of heat lamps work in a small inclosed building?
I have some 40 volume but no powder. How does it work it just the 40 volume cream?
2 questions. At 9:43, how big is the scoop you use for the powder and the 40 cream? And also, do you recommend covering the skull with seram wrap after painting the cream/powder mixture to the skull?
Based on the video, she mentions it is a coffee scoop. Most of those are 1/8 of a cup. I am guessing the ratio is more important than the actual size of the scoop. 2 to 1 , cream to powder
Hey guys I am a taxidermist here in wisconsin. I use pretty much same method as you minus
powerwasher also I leave my ears in tact. But anyways was going to give you a pointer that I do with teeth, take a small wire brush to them before whitening your teeth will come out white as your skull.
Great tip!
Hey I have a question. I recently skinned a deer head and let it sit in a buck for about 2 days. When I took it out today, the horns were stained from the water/blood. How do I get this off? I’m about to start the boiling process
The ONLY way to keep from having bones in a strainer is to slow simmer and power wash with electric power washer. I do my own and it’s a pain but after I sent one to a taxidermist and was so mad when I got it back. It was so brittle and I could tell they had glued a lot of the nose back. To do it without bones loose you have to do them basically one at a time which if your doing 500 doesn’t make sense but the bones will be very solid with zero gluing. I also use the hot peroxide bath because it doesn’t take long. The only pain is making sure antlers are sealed with shrink wrap so they don’t get bleached. Wanna have fun do some hogs!!! They will never get degreased!!!! Whiten away they will always yellow in time hey are sooooo greasy
I’ve been scouring euromount vids for days now. This vid is excellent! Do you guys seal the skull with anything after whitening process? Many recommend mop and glo. Thanks!
We do not
I just did the mop and glo for the first time. It seems to work really well. I did it on a plain white deer skull and a painted horse and cow skull. How it affects the paint if any remains to be seen. It didn't affect it while I was brushing it on.
@@l.h.1238 yes, I used it as well. It took a while to air out the smell, but that’s no biggie
Good work. Where do you get your pots?
Tractor Supply and Wal Mart.
Can you do it with just the cream? And is that electric powerwasher. Thanks, I really liked this video
No, you need a whitener powder & cream for it to produce the whitest product. We tried using just the cream and it didn't work. Yes, we use electric powerwashers.
What do u use for boiling pots and where do u get them?
Galvanized tubs, Tractor Supply, Atwood’s, Home Depot, etc.
Which one works better for the whiting the past or the peroxide?
Just being nosy 😂
This current process is much easier and time efficient.
I'm having to pick and scrape little pieces of remaining stuff after boiling and pressure washing. Specifically at the crest of the back of the skull and behind where ear buds used to be. What's the deal? Am I not boiling long enough? Not pressure washing enough?
Is there anyway possible to leave nasal cavity and clean it out all the way? I really like the look of it in there but am struggling with that too.
Most likely, not boiling long enough. However, you have to be very careful not to boil to long as it can cause damage to the bone. There is a fine line that with trial and error you will learn.
The only way to leave the nasal cavity in, and also getting all the meat behind it, is maceration or bettles.
Do Not Boil!! Simmer.
Boiling is fine in short amount of times. Simmering takes way too long and is unnecessary
@shelbyshinkle5552 short period yes but does cook grease into skull. 20 year taxidermist
Amen 🙏🙏😂
Uv doesn't whiten its heat.
Where do you get your pots you boil in
Tractor supply or Atwoods
Where do you get those bigger pots when boiling?
Tractor Supply use to carry them, but haven't as of recent. Home Depot sometimes carry them. We are actually having a hard time finding them now.
Arent the nose pieces that fall out...specific to each deer skull to fit back properly?
Yes, they should fit like a puzzle piece.
Get some sal soda or soda ash (sodium carbonate) and add about a cup to your first pot of water you are boiling your heads in, it will soften up the meat and tissue and make it much easier to power wash off. You’ll thank me later. Great video btw.
I’ll have to try this. I’ve always used Borax.
I'll agree with gary, sal soda works great.
Good to know! We will give it a whirl.
What is the mixture you boil in? ratios?
For those size pots, we will use 1/2 bottle of Clear Ivory Liquid Soap per pot.
Do you put anything on the mounts after you are through with the whitening?
No
what kind of degreaser are you putting in the boiling pots?
Clear Ivory but any dish soap will work
What do you normally charge for this service? Obviously as many as y’all do it’s worth it but to only do 1-4 skulls starting out it’s a lot of work and time I feel like to not make it worth the money. Congrats on sticking with it.
Prices vary across the country from $50-$200.
It’s no different than if you wanted to start mowing yards as a side business but had not mowing equipment. If you buy all the equipment, you won’t be making any money on some of the first yards you mow…
Are you able to buy the powder online?
Not sure we buy it locally.
Does the paste try to hard if its left on to long. Do you have to worry about the paste getting on the horns when your rinsing
It does dry and harden but easily comes off with water hose or power washer. If it does get on the antlers while rinsing it doesn't stay long enough to cause a problem.
Good to know thanks for the reply
How long do you boil the skull the first time. One video said 20-30 min till skin splits in forehead and then another video you mention 3 hours of boiling. The second time in clean water how long for that boil and is that with the same amount of soap?
20-30 mins at a rolling boil, but it could take 2-3 hours for a head to be ready to powerwash. The second time, usually 30 mins.
Peroxide and metal can become combustible.
Do you keep your. Skulls hydrated until it's time to bleach. It? Thxs
Yes
Do you think this whitening process is more expensive than the one you have been doing?
And do you have any tips to on how to get all the flesh out of the little pocket at the very end of the brain cavity? That’s the only part I struggle with
If it is more expensive it's not much more.
One word... Powerwasher
@@The5MFamily and do you think i turns on looking better the new way or is it the same?
@@bowman2574 I think I could hold one from each process side by side and no one could tell the difference.
If you can't finish after initial boil can you just let skull dry before you whiten or keep in water until you whiten
If it's 100% clean you can let it dry, if not I would keep it in water.
@5M Family Homestead thanks. I just got it clean the something came up so couldn't finish
Thanks for quick response
I got it all finished up. It looks great but it stinks bad. Did I not degrease it enough? I did maceration and then degreased in dawn and boiling water.
@@shannonwatson8358 what stinks? The bone or the antlers? If it's the antlers clean them with a scrub brush and 50/50 ammonia/fabuloso. It may take several times. The whitener should take away all smell on the bone, if you got all the little hard to get spots.
What do you charge per deer skull , Thank you ..
$125. Plaques cost extra. But, that is a going rate in our area. Some locations are more some are less.
Do you have any videos of you gluing the noses back on?
No, but that would be a good one. We will add that in!
I've had success with just Elmer's glue. You just need a little bit and it works great.
Is the powder mostly for sticking it to the skull? Or is there a different reason
It does make the cream thicker but it also activates the cream and makes it work much better.
@@The5MFamily gotchya so does it make it stronger?
@@OutdoorExperiences yes
How do I get wood stain off my deer skull??
If it is small specks, that a q-tip and dip it in the cream peroxide and dab it on. Leave it for a day. Wipe it off. If that doesn't work, you will have to rewhiten the whole skull.
Doesn't need heat or sun. I whiten on the kitchen counter
How long does it take? Sun and heat may not be completely necessary but it significantly speeds up the process. We are finishing 40-50 per week this time of year, so time is of the essence.
What do you add with the water in the boil?
Clear dish soap
Thank you!
This doesn’t remove color from the antlers ?
Who do y’all get to make yalls hats
Snyder Custom Threads in Ponder Texas.
Thank you for the reply that was fast god bless y’all
What is a fair price y'all charge? Just starting out i'm charging $60 for deer, $75 for hogs, and $45 for bobcats. Are those fair prices for me? Florida Average is $175 for Euros
I feel like that is a good starting price, until you are established. We stated at a lower price point when we first started. Once we were more established we came up. Our prices are still $50-$75 cheaper than most around our area. Only because we do so many we can keep the cost down.
@@The5MFamily thank you
Waiting on a bottle right now from a friend of mine’s son’s grandmother who runs a beauty shop.. I took him camping for the first time at a WMA and put him on his first buck.. He’s 13 and I’ve been telling him I was going to put him on one.. I’ve never done a euro mount so I’ve been taking my time.. I did learn one thing though,, My nephew was going to do it and he was letting it hang under his shed.. He never got to it so after a month I went and got it.. Whew it stunk especially when boiling it… I’ll put the next one in the freezer till I get to it🤣… Thanks for the video..
Yes, they can start stinking pretty quick! 🤣
That concentrated chlorine fumes is very bad for every part of your body lungs nose and eyes in a inclosed space. I recommend extra ventilating . And don't get it on your skin at all .
If you live near a city, it’s cheapest to go to a beauty supply store yourself and buy the 40 Volume. It’s 12 % peroxide. I think I pay about $8 for a 32 oz bottle at Sally’s Beauty Supply.
@@LeighJohnson-ny5tn his grandmother gave us a bottle since it was her grandson..
Just for future ref 🙂
What about a heat gun?
That can work but you have to be careful
@@The5MFamily to get too hot? Im really new to working skull mounts. I found doing a oxy paste and boiling with dawn and oxy will help white but not a verybright white. I aso fnd it works better on deadheads
Do you need a Taxidermy license to do this?
In the State of Texas you do not need one for European mounts.