Flicks And The City I’m re watching the series and My was the last episode we’re Olaf kiss kit to save her nut then died. I also loved the parts where Violet and Kauls met Fiona and Quigley. 👍
Sounds like you've been enjoying your rewatch, Suhani! There's so many great moments in this show, aren't there? I can't wait to rewatch it all over again from the start! :-)
@@FlicksAndTheCity to be honest this is my rating on each season Season 1: 10/10 Season 2: 7.6/10 Season 3: 8.5/10 Also to be honest I despise Mr Poe he is bumbling buffoon...he irritates me
A great theme of the season was everything Olaf valued being stripped away. He loses his henchpeople in The Slippery Slope, his authority in The Grim Grotto, he breaks up with Esme in The Penultimate Peril and by The End everyone sees him for who he is as his bravado and disguises are washed away. He finally has the Baudelaires, but they are useless to him because they’re stranded from civilisation. His manipulations fail because there’s nothing he can work with on the islanders, who don’t have any of the selfishness and desire Olaf latches on to. Over the seven episodes Count Olaf was deconstructed until he was the man he was before the schism, a man who recited poetry and was in love with Kit, the man he was when he died.
The development of the henchpeople was a real strength to the show. Fernald’s interest in Sunny’s safety was sweet, and helped to foreshadow that he had his own younger sister who he eventually reunited with.
@Eloi I've never read the books but I kept thinking that he's never going to meet them and that his whole quest might be happening after they are gone. It was nice to see them meet, even if it was only briefly.
In the books it only hints that they meet him, they meet a taxi driver in basically the same way as the show, but it never says his name. However, the narrator (Lemony Snicket) goes on about how he knows everything that was in the taxi that night, basically saying it was him.
I know the story is mostly about the Baudelaires, but I wish that the Quagmires got a little more screen time in season 3. But that's not how the story goes.
@@MrLethalShots I think was probably because they I think were not filming in America where the actor of Isadora lives and it is also a but weird to be there for less than a day just to film the last scene when they could just re-use one
That's true and I believe that's why there were all those changes of who was in the hotel and everything. It's nearly impossible to get everyone back with all the schedules and that's also the reason I believe the circus freaks were axed off earlier because of the actors and the story telling aspect
I evaded crying several times in the finale but when I saw Isadora's face in Chapter Fourteen I lost it. I love the closure that we got on the sugar bowl, Olaf, the Quagmires, the Widdershins, the hench people and Beatrice Snicket. What makes it even better is that Daniel Handler somewhat worked with the writers so the closure isn't going against his will.
@@AkaChibiness the montage was what lemony was saying he had heard rumours about, not saying that it's exactly what happened. But I suppose seeing it happen does mostly confirm that it did happen.
The opera scene was something I didn’t really like, because the scene was fine but it made more sense in the books where it made it sound like Beatrice intentionally killed both of Olaf’s parents with poison darts, but in the show it was an accident and it was only Olaf’s dad, which made the references to 2 poison darts make no sense. Also it being an accident made it sound like not as big a deal is it is in the books when you realize that VFD has done some terrible things. But I’m not that mad about it because the changes were overseen by Daniel Handler so any changes were intended by him.
The series is perfect and in my opinion the definitive adaptation of the books. I think all changes are justified and add something valuable to the story . Great video!
I almost agree. I didn't like the Ishmael change at all and the very obscure complete retcon from another Lemony Book that goes into strange explanations about VFD that don't align with the show.
I don't like how they changed the contents of the sugar bowl, which were mentioned in the LS Unauthorized Bio. Seems like what they chose was redundant, considering there already was a well-planned out cure
@@Francesca_0 When Daniel Handler was once asked what's in the sugar bowl he replied "what you usually find in a sugar bowl". So I don't think the contents were retconned
I'm not kidding but I thought that when they showed their parents leaving the beach, I thought that they were actually Klaus and Violet as adults, having lived the past decade or so on the island.
My favourte moment in the show must be Olafs death. Not that I was glad he died, no... But it was such a moving scene on so many different and weird levels...
It was really well done in my opinion, Olaf got a bit of development, we see real explanation for Olaf and Kits feelings for each other, and it’s melancholy, like the entire series was meant to be.
i kinda wish we could get a "Quamires Side Story", "Beatrice Snicket Side Story", and more learn more about VFD and what the Baudelaires' parents did because Olaf kept on saying they're not who they thought they were. I'm not complaining, Im just throwing out ideas.
I really think that they escaped the fire and are looking for their children because I mean they thought quigley was dead but he survived the fireand remember when the buedilaires were in the lucky lumbermill they opened the door to a flash back when Duncan and isadira were with there paRents
I lowkey feel like Carmelita Spats' parents are in V.F.D. If you're wondering how I came to this point, it's because almost every child that we know a little more about in the show has their parents in V.F.D, so why not Carmelita's?
You're right most adaptations have changes because of the new visual medium, but ones that are just random are unnecessary make many people angry. These ones I'm fine with because the author Daniel Handler wrote it, so it's okay
I think if you want to get into this series, you should read the original books AND watch the Netflix series. They're both fantastic, but the netflix series helps to wrap up loose ends, answer questions that the book was vague about, and give us nice closure to multiple characters that they honestly deserve to have. But the book has its own charm for leaving a lot of things ambiguous and uncertain, just like how life is
I especially liked Sunny throughout this series. She's by far my favorite character and her interactions with the hook-handed man were very heartwarming, cute and funny.
It gave me flashbacks to the Great Cowboy War of ‘04. I had my girlfriend with me, we had almost defeated the enemy cowfolk. My trusty companion, Markus the horse, led us off towards the village. The sun was setting slowly beyond the horizon, my girlfriend was practicing her lasso skills. We were sharing a romantic moment, I won’t be afraid to admit. If only I could’ve seen what was about to happen. By the time we reached the village, everyone was gone. We went to the saloon, leaving Markus outside. However, instead of seeing our associate cowfolk, we were greeted with our enemies. I made to take out my gun, but before I could Jessica Wildesto lassoed my girlfriend and I to some wood chairs. They interrogated us- asking all about our plans. My girlfriend refused to reveal our plans.. so she was shot. Even though she was the toughest cowgirl I knew, she couldn’t withstand a bullet to her head. Admitting to defeat, I gave away our plans in order to save my own life. They spared me, but I was so ashamed walking outside of that saloon. “Yippykayay!”, they simultaneously yelled to me. I rode off to the city, letting go of my cowboy side. By 2007 I had completely changed myself, and I had already gotten myself a city girlfriend. On the news I saw that the war was over. The bad guys had won. I blame myself for this and I don’t think I’ll ever stop.
Awesome Mystery? Gosh, he was by far one of the best characters in this series and I'm kind of unsatisfied with is death., It just seems ...wrong. He was so pure.
I love how the show gave you more info about all the questionable things in the books. Don't come and say "but it's not true!" Because technically it us because Daniel Handler, the original writer of the books, helped write the Netflix series.
It is two different canons. This is obvious considering there are characters who are alive in the show and dead in the books. It's like GOT. Following the same story line but not everything is the same and acting like they are the same is dumb.
@@jadiandangie381 Yes both excellent but I think fans should be able to choose what they believe is real and what isn't! If they like something in the tv show that wasn't in the book then so be it but if they dont like the change thats their canon. But definitely read the books, they are amazing
He hasn’t accepted everything that happens in the series as canon. For example he has not confirmed that there is in fact a vaccine against the medusoid mycelium, so... “but it’s not true”
Agreed! There's a very fine line between being overly annoying and not taking the character far enough. I think she did a terrific job finding that middle ground
Ikr! Watching the girl makes me want to slap “Carmelita” but at the same time think, her actress is very talented. Her role in this series is intentionally over the top, so I’m very curious to see how she would act in other types of films.
There are so many FANTASTIC actors in the series. As a matter of fact, only three people in the entire series disappointed: Aunt Josephine (something about her acting was just over-the-top and annoying) and Violet and Klaus (in every scene they are trying WAY to hard to be melodramatic. They are the only reason I won't buy this series on DVD when it comes out).
I genuinely feel like the Netflix series is the best version of the story. I'm glad that Daniel Handler was heavily involved with production on this one, too, it gives a much more official feel to the changes, rather than just being studio mandates, and it's honestly the ending I wished the books had.
Did anyone noticed that in S1 that they showed the picture of the parents. The father didn't have glasses and the mother's face was different. In S3 the father in the picture had glasses and the mother's face was Beatrice instead of the women that was originally in the picture of S1?
Usually they won’t have someone casted so early in a tv series seeing as you only really see the parents in season 3, there would be no way to secure their role in season 1 (as they were not sure if they would get renewed for 2 more seasons) so they just casted people who would resemble their image for the photograph :) x
Eloi all the footage we saw of the parents were all years before their death anyway so they wouldn’t look much older. The original comment was asking why they looked like different people so that’s why I explained it could have something to do with casting. Most tv shows do it :) x
Apparently Handler was removed from the writing team after season 1. He still wrote the episodes for season 2 and 3 before being taken off but it's unknown how much was still what he wrote.
Fierce Crimson Speedster a.k.a. Edward i believe he wrote until The End because he posted a long time ago about writing the season finale with a bunch of other writers
Hi there! You forgot the missing people in the hotel like sir and charles being replaced by babs and jerome. Jerome and justice strauss came in the hotel together from what i recall
We still don’t know who started the Baudelaire mansion fire and we don’t know a lot about the man with beard and no hair and the woman with hair and no beard
@@jackdonohue7893 To be fair it leaves it pretty unclear. It's not like Olaf is trustworthy or above lying, especially when his life is in danger. He could still have started it, it's just not definite.
We should definitely get some more scenes during the time that V.F.D. was created. Like so it’s more clear what happened at the opera, some more facts on the sugar bowl. And when Violet, Klaus and Sunny weren’t born yet. Maybe some more of The Snickets, and Beatrice, when everybody was together and still one noble organisation, but then it leads to the sugar bowl being stolen and how it split up into schisms. I feel like that would be more interesting to watch and so you could get some more background and a clearer idea of what VFD used to be.
I legitimately cried when it showed the henchpeople all happy on stage and Fernald with his sister. They were bad people, but they turned around, which makes me very happy.
One of my favourite moments of season 3 was Olaf’s reaction when Violet told him to help Kit ☺️ I loved seeing the flashback with them, Esmé and Lemony as well 😌 I loved season 3 especially because the penultimate peril is one of my favourite books of the series (other than the austere academy and the ersatz elevator) I just wish that you could see the quagmires reuniting with the baudelaires even though that doesn’t happen in the books
Honestly, I feel like most, if not all, of the changes were for the better. I'm completely in love with the ending, it just wrapped up all the loose ends so satisfyingly.
Two things, Dr. Orwell died from falling into lit furnace after being startled, not into saw while fighting Sunny like the books. And Justice Strauss apparently died at the Hotel Denoument, but in the end of the part 2, she is seen giving the only remaining evidence, a picture of the Bauldalaires from the book, O.L.A.F. to Lemony Snicket.
I liked most of the changes, except for getting rid of Captain Widdershins. I felt that Fiona didn't have as well-defined character as she had in the books. The show seemed to downplay how she was a mycologist, and her "romance" with Klaus in the show seemed cheesy and shoe-horned in. Granted, I haven't read the books in a while so it might have seemed cheesy in the books as well.
Yea I liked Captain Widdershins so I was sad when I found out he wasn't going to be in the show. Honestly, I feel like I'm the only one who didn't see any romance or chemistry between Klaus & Fiona and their kiss seemed random to me. Maybe I have forgotten some things about the books, but I read them all in 2017.
@@whatisthisbusiness4681 I think it would ruin it too. To me the whole thing with the story was that it was never going to be a happy ending. To show more would either have to give that happy ending, defeating the warning we're told all the way through. Or they'd have to give us more of the same but with a new villain, so therefore it would be pointless. By not telling us their fate we don't see their ending but we do get an ending. More stories with Olaf etc would have been great though, it's a pity he didn't write more but small things burning brightly and all that.
Penultimate Peril episodes were the best of the series but the finale was really good too. Awesome show and I'm glad they were actually able to do the whole series.
I always hate inaccuracies and changes in adaptations, but with this show, I had the benefit of only a vague recollection of the books (I had totally forgotten the ending) and the knowledge that the script for the series was written by Lemony Snicket himself. If there's anybody who's qualified to know what changes are best made when adapting a story to TV, it's probably the original author.
Things the TV series did better this season -Making the Snow Scouts wealthy children turned into orphans. It shows how Olaf's side of the schism is willing to go to great lengths to hurt innocent people -Having Quigley show up in Grim Grotto, rather than just sending a telegraph. It not only gives such a huge character a role in more than one book, but it shows the Baudelaires having to leave Quigley like they did with his siblings in Ersatz Elevator -Hooky showing Sunny sympathy. While it doesn't make sense at first glance, you can see it as a way of him starting over with Fiona. -Having Babs in the Penultimate Peril -Excluding the ambiguity of the Quagmires, Hector, Fiona, Fernald, Phil and Captain Widdershins. It's nice that not everyone's fate is unknown. -Fully explaining the stealing of the Sugar Bowl and how V.F.D. orphaned Olaf. Things they didn't -Introducing O.C.'s like Larry and Jacqueline and not using them properly. Larry's death wasn't relevant outside of his one scene, and Jacqueline wasn't even present -Making Jerome out to be stupid. In the books he shows remorse and arrives with Justice Strauss. -Under-utilizing Hugo, Kevin and Colette. It was nice that they didn't stick with Olaf, but they could've shown up at the hotel -Not having Sir, Charles, Hal, Mr. Remora, Mrs. Bass (although I did like her analogy with Mr. Poe) in the hotel -Leaving out the Denouement brothers' arc of being orphans.
I feel like they left this ending really open ended, and that if they wanted, they could go and make a season 4 (idk what it would be about because they ran out of books)
The scene in which sunny says she’ll stay to spy on Olaf and then Violet says how will sunny escape and then Sunny ties up her hair and says she’ll invent something is probably my favourite moment in the whole show cause she sees her older siblings getting out of trouble and she knows she can too so she does what her older sister always does and ties up her hair. That is the best scene and always makes me cry
Because she took the name of the people that raised her (or was given it), sort of like you would with parents who adopt. That would help secure her as part of a family, instead of being on her own.
I think the one mayor difference between the Netflix series and the books is how dark it is. In the book it was always dark with Count Olaf being a little more menacing and as well as his troupe. In the Netflix series they are seem to be more silly which make you wonder how they were able to do anything. Another thing is just the mystery. In The End we were left to wonder if The Quagmires, Fiona, Fernald, Justice Strauss, Jerome, and Hector were to survive
Dylan Thomas Maybe Fiona and Fernald survives but the quagmires were seen to be shot down by the crows and Quigley was seen to Die in the great unknown
The only change I didn't like was revealing whats in the Sugar Bowl. For such a fascinating Mistery, they should've kept it. The others like the Quagmire and the Baudelaires are a nice happy ending, but the Sugar Bowl should've been kept, as said by Snicket, "in the dark".
More changes- 1, Dr Orwell did a swordfight with sunny in books but she did not do so in the series. 2. The spyglass is shown much more in the series. 3. Jacqueline is not present in the books at all. 4. Olivia Caliban is shown more in series. Madame Lulu is also not good. 5. The contents of the sugar bowl are told in the series
I am confused on what you said about Beatrice II at I think 7.28? You said she went off to search for Violet,Klaus and sunny, but was she not living with them after they sailed off the island? I was just a little confuse so if anybody can clear it up for me that would be great.😊 I have also read the books and I am a massive fan of them!
I still LOVE the 2004 film, and I always will. But my god, this is a masterpiece. I couldn’t get used to it at first and I didn’t give it a chance, and I always wrote it off as “well it’s corny the movie is better.” But now that I’ve given it a chance, I prefer the show, it represents the books so faithfully and so well
I read all the books long before netflix started their series and I would like to say that I liked both, but I was a little mad about some of the things Netflix took out. I actually prefer the sense of mystery that is so prevalent in the books to having everything spelled out for you in the series. Lemony Snicket has a very unique way of writing that kinda forces you to look deeper into the text to try and find out what he's saying. In the book we don't know what Count Olaf is planning until the Baudelaires do. But in the show, we can see exactly what is happening as it's happening, because they show Olaf's plan through the whole thing. Also there are things that can only be captured in writing. Like in one of the books, Lemony writes a secret letter to Kit in the book that the reader is not supposed to see. Also, I really like the ending in the books because in the series, there are 13 books. 13 is known for being unlucky, but at the end of book 13, The End, there's a 14th book. I like to think that the chain of unfortunate events is finally broken, and I imagine that everything worked out fine. Also to those of you who don't know, The Bombinating Beast is most likely the Great Unknown, who is a creature from the Clusterous Forest in Stain'd by the Sea and is quite dangerous. Other things that they changed were that the trial in the penultimate peril didn't go like that at all. The Baudelaires wanted to tell their story and bring count olaf to justice, but they figured out something was suspicious. In the book everybody was blindfolded and Justice Strauss couldn't talk because of Olaf's associates, and the Baudelaires realized Justice wasn't talking so they took off their blinfolds. They never got to have their trial. Next thing they changed was that the Quagmire parent side plot wasn't at all included in the books. In the first episodes they have the Quagmire's parents getting captured and going to peru and all sorts of things, but the books doesn't include that at all. Lastly, (this one is stupid I know) Esme didn't have her fire dress on in the slippery slope. That dress had a mystery around it, as the book said that somebody else had worn that dress long ago, and that the dress had history. Completely removing it made me a little bit sad.
The show was Very Fantastically Done, wish they could've added more like a special part showing Violet, Klaus, and Sunny grown up doing something as to where they ended up and what happened to VFD and stuff
I think the ambiguous ending makes it even more powerful though. I've been continuously thinking about everything that happened since I saw the final scene four days ago. It leaves a lot to the imagination and forces you to imagine what you think happened.
@@TCO_404 They didn't hate the ending, they hate that it ended, i.e. they wanted it to go on for longer so they could see more. At least, that's how I read their comment.
I'm going to miss this show, it was a very fun drama to watch, I think the actors did a vocally fantastic delivery of their lines. I am glad the vague final days from the book were vamped for determined endings for all of the characters.
N9 one talks about all the secret messages in the Beatrice letters book I've found one message that I believe is about Olaf and how Beatrice was trying to recruit him but lemony was unsure if they could trust him. Then I went online to see if anyone else found any messages and I only found one other person who had found a message in one of the other letters using a famous roman Cypher he didn't tell what he found because he wanted fresh eyes looking for the codes because he be level that any of the letters could contain multiple messages overlapping one another so if he showed everyone what was there that's all they would see. But why hasn't anyone but me and this one guy been talking about the secret messages. And after all this time why hasn't anyone solved them.
I think the changes made sense. There's a lot of unanswred questions in the books which Snicket fixed later down the line but would only be really messy if made into a TV series.
Season 3 was the best season I had ever watched in my career of Netflix, especially the ending, well done to the creators of this show and well done lemony
What were your favourite moments in the Netflix series? Leave your Vital Fan Disclosures in the comments below! 👍😀
Flicks And The City I’m re watching the series and My was the last episode we’re Olaf kiss kit to save her nut then died. I also loved the parts where Violet and Kauls met Fiona and Quigley. 👍
Sounds like you've been enjoying your rewatch, Suhani! There's so many great moments in this show, aren't there? I can't wait to rewatch it all over again from the start! :-)
@@FlicksAndTheCity to be honest this is my rating on each season
Season 1: 10/10
Season 2: 7.6/10
Season 3: 8.5/10
Also to be honest I despise Mr Poe he is bumbling buffoon...he irritates me
I enjoyed all the flashback parts (opera scenes) and almost every scene in The Penultimate Peril.
Olaf interacting with violet more in the Netflix series than in the books and the movie 😁😁😁
I love the adorable moments between Fernald and Sunny
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this series was done so well I'm going to miss it a lot.
Definitely, Alexander! :-)
Me too, I'm going to miss it a lot
Same 😔
Alexander Nelton same
me too
A great theme of the season was everything Olaf valued being stripped away. He loses his henchpeople in The Slippery Slope, his authority in The Grim Grotto, he breaks up with Esme in The Penultimate Peril and by The End everyone sees him for who he is as his bravado and disguises are washed away. He finally has the Baudelaires, but they are useless to him because they’re stranded from civilisation. His manipulations fail because there’s nothing he can work with on the islanders, who don’t have any of the selfishness and desire Olaf latches on to. Over the seven episodes Count Olaf was deconstructed until he was the man he was before the schism, a man who recited poetry and was in love with Kit, the man he was when he died.
Jay Barry that is actually *SO* true
Nice essay u got
True.
How can something be told so beautifuly but describe something so painful?
Lemony Snicket... is that you?
This show was a Very Fascinating Drama.
quantum V.F.D
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It was a Very Fun Day binge watching all of season 3
Very fitting Definition
V.F.D
Very Fun Day
The development of the henchpeople was a real strength to the show. Fernald’s interest in Sunny’s safety was sweet, and helped to foreshadow that he had his own younger sister who he eventually reunited with.
Idk why but it felt satisfying and a relief when they met Lemony
@Eloi I've never read the books but I kept thinking that he's never going to meet them and that his whole quest might be happening after they are gone. It was nice to see them meet, even if it was only briefly.
Camille Frendon I was very unsatisfied when they passed him up for the judge.
Really? i dont remember that. When? @Eloi
Eloi do you remember what page because I’ve been looking over the books I can’t find it. I’ve read them multiple times tho
In the books it only hints that they meet him, they meet a taxi driver in basically the same way as the show, but it never says his name. However, the narrator (Lemony Snicket) goes on about how he knows everything that was in the taxi that night, basically saying it was him.
I know the story is mostly about the Baudelaires, but I wish that the Quagmires got a little more screen time in season 3. But that's not how the story goes.
alma Lol and there only scene was just reused footage from season 2.
@@MrLethalShots I think was probably because they I think were not filming in America where the actor of Isadora lives and it is also a but weird to be there for less than a day just to film the last scene when they could just re-use one
I was heart broken when Quigley was only fully in the slippery slope like we got 3books / 6 episodes worth of the others why not Quigley
That's true and I believe that's why there were all those changes of who was in the hotel and everything. It's nearly impossible to get everyone back with all the schedules and that's also the reason I believe the circus freaks were axed off earlier because of the actors and the story telling aspect
True that
I evaded crying several times in the finale but when I saw Isadora's face in Chapter Fourteen I lost it. I love the closure that we got on the sugar bowl, Olaf, the Quagmires, the Widdershins, the hench people and Beatrice Snicket. What makes it even better is that Daniel Handler somewhat worked with the writers so the closure isn't going against his will.
@Eloi can you elaborate on that 2nd one?
@@AkaChibiness the montage was what lemony was saying he had heard rumours about, not saying that it's exactly what happened. But I suppose seeing it happen does mostly confirm that it did happen.
Lol ThaT sCeNe WaS ReUsEd from when the Quagmires said goodbye to the Baudelaires
The best moment from this season was the flashback to the opera. Loved it!
That's another change. There are only vague hints about what happened in the book, whereas the show has a full flashback scene.
I loved that we got to see the Opera scene!
The opera scene was something I didn’t really like, because the scene was fine but it made more sense in the books where it made it sound like Beatrice intentionally killed both of Olaf’s parents with poison darts, but in the show it was an accident and it was only Olaf’s dad, which made the references to 2 poison darts make no sense. Also it being an accident made it sound like not as big a deal is it is in the books when you realize that VFD has done some terrible things. But I’m not that mad about it because the changes were overseen by Daniel Handler so any changes were intended by him.
There are a lot of differences between the books and the show
The series is perfect and in my opinion the definitive adaptation of the books. I think all changes are justified and add something valuable to the story . Great video!
it probably helps that most changes were made by Daniel Handler himself
The changes don’t take anything away from the story, but they do help uphold the richness of the story in the film format. Absolutely wonderful.
I almost agree. I didn't like the Ishmael change at all and the very obscure complete retcon from another Lemony Book that goes into strange explanations about VFD that don't align with the show.
I don't like how they changed the contents of the sugar bowl, which were mentioned in the LS Unauthorized Bio. Seems like what they chose was redundant, considering there already was a well-planned out cure
@@Francesca_0 When Daniel Handler was once asked what's in the sugar bowl he replied "what you usually find in a sugar bowl". So I don't think the contents were retconned
I'm not kidding but I thought that when they showed their parents leaving the beach, I thought that they were actually Klaus and Violet as adults, having lived the past decade or so on the island.
Zain Chupacabra haha me too and then I realized it but I was still confused 😂
me too, and I was so horrified that Violet was pregnant because that would mean...
@@mourningdove5591 I didn't notice that part.
Same 😂
my gf thought the same thing...she was like "wait WTF incest???no wayy"
My favourte moment in the show must be Olafs death.
Not that I was glad he died, no...
But it was such a moving scene on so many different and weird levels...
It was really well done in my opinion, Olaf got a bit of development, we see real explanation for Olaf and Kits feelings for each other, and it’s melancholy, like the entire series was meant to be.
i kinda wish we could get a "Quamires Side Story", "Beatrice Snicket Side Story", and more learn more about VFD and what the Baudelaires' parents did because Olaf kept on saying they're not who they thought they were. I'm not complaining, Im just throwing out ideas.
Yeah, like the Quagmires' parents are still alive. Did they ever meet up with them again.
you mean Beatrice Baudelaire?
@@TheWorldisQuietHere3 the quagmire parents are dead. They get home in s1 but there house is burned down.
I really think that they escaped the fire and are looking for their children because I mean they thought quigley was dead but he survived the fireand remember when the buedilaires were in the lucky lumbermill they opened the door to a flash back when Duncan and isadira were with there paRents
I lowkey feel like Carmelita Spats' parents are in V.F.D. If you're wondering how I came to this point, it's because almost every child that we know a little more about in the show has their parents in V.F.D, so why not Carmelita's?
Honestly, most changes were... good.
Yes, I thought they made some very good changes too! :-)
Rarely are any changes made to adaptations actually good ones, but this show certainly had some Very Fine Differences.
Your one true god Cthulhu was that intentional at the end or just a coincidence?
@@ackminecrer9165 completely intentional cakesniffer.
You're right most adaptations have changes because of the new visual medium, but ones that are just random are unnecessary make many people angry. These ones I'm fine with because the author Daniel Handler wrote it, so it's okay
I think if you want to get into this series, you should read the original books AND watch the Netflix series. They're both fantastic, but the netflix series helps to wrap up loose ends, answer questions that the book was vague about, and give us nice closure to multiple characters that they honestly deserve to have. But the book has its own charm for leaving a lot of things ambiguous and uncertain, just like how life is
This show was fantastic
Great to hear you had so much fun watching it! :-)
Ikr
I especially liked Sunny throughout this series. She's by far my favorite character and her interactions with the hook-handed man were very heartwarming, cute and funny.
who else is pissed Klaus and Fiona kisses like BRUH isodra is still alive
Well... they don't know that... and they might be dead nowm
... “Isodra” is on a Flying Mechanical Device. He said that it will never go back down on the ground.
@@bearnaib aaahhh I forgot about it not coming down ... but still
@@jackdonohue7893 no at the end it shows that they survived
@@itsdee178 Yes it did but that's so we know it, the Baudelaires don't know that.
I already miss this series :(
Read the manga, you caksniffer. Sorry wrong format, i meant book!
When you said yippykiyay you gave me a sad flashback to what happened to Larry.
YarnStore RIP Larry Your-Waiter
It gave me flashbacks to the Great Cowboy War of ‘04. I had my girlfriend with me, we had almost defeated the enemy cowfolk. My trusty companion, Markus the horse, led us off towards the village. The sun was setting slowly beyond the horizon, my girlfriend was practicing her lasso skills. We were sharing a romantic moment, I won’t be afraid to admit. If only I could’ve seen what was about to happen. By the time we reached the village, everyone was gone. We went to the saloon, leaving Markus outside. However, instead of seeing our associate cowfolk, we were greeted with our enemies. I made to take out my gun, but before I could Jessica Wildesto lassoed my girlfriend and I to some wood chairs. They interrogated us- asking all about our plans. My girlfriend refused to reveal our plans.. so she was shot. Even though she was the toughest cowgirl I knew, she couldn’t withstand a bullet to her head. Admitting to defeat, I gave away our plans in order to save my own life. They spared me, but I was so ashamed walking outside of that saloon. “Yippykayay!”, they simultaneously yelled to me. I rode off to the city, letting go of my cowboy side. By 2007 I had completely changed myself, and I had already gotten myself a city girlfriend. On the news I saw that the war was over. The bad guys had won. I blame myself for this and I don’t think I’ll ever stop.
Awesome Mystery? Gosh, he was by far one of the best characters in this series and I'm kind of unsatisfied with is death., It just seems ...wrong. He was so pure.
Oof
FRICK ERNEST HE FREAKIN KILLED HIM In.... salsa!?
It’s so bittersweet how the series is ending ):
I love how the show gave you more info about all the questionable things in the books. Don't come and say "but it's not true!" Because technically it us because Daniel Handler, the original writer of the books, helped write the Netflix series.
It is two different canons. This is obvious considering there are characters who are alive in the show and dead in the books. It's like GOT. Following the same story line but not everything is the same and acting like they are the same is dumb.
John Kennell ar'nt the books and the show both good though?
@@jadiandangie381 Yes both excellent but I think fans should be able to choose what they believe is real and what isn't! If they like something in the tv show that wasn't in the book then so be it but if they dont like the change thats their canon. But definitely read the books, they are amazing
He hasn’t accepted everything that happens in the series as canon. For example he has not confirmed that there is in fact a vaccine against the medusoid mycelium, so... “but it’s not true”
Separate canons being traditional for adaptations aside... Wasn't Handler mostly worked out of the writing process by season 3?
I absolutely fell in love Carmelita, the little girl who played her was too adorably perfect for the part.
Agreed! There's a very fine line between being overly annoying and not taking the character far enough. I think she did a terrific job finding that middle ground
Ikr! Watching the girl makes me want to slap “Carmelita” but at the same time think, her actress is very talented. Her role in this series is intentionally over the top, so I’m very curious to see how she would act in other types of films.
There are so many FANTASTIC actors in the series. As a matter of fact, only three people in the entire series disappointed: Aunt Josephine (something about her acting was just over-the-top and annoying) and Violet and Klaus (in every scene they are trying WAY to hard to be melodramatic. They are the only reason I won't buy this series on DVD when it comes out).
Esme as well, was probably one of the best cast for the part
poe was also great in his role. I wanted to slap him so many times. That was some good annoying acting.
I genuinely feel like the Netflix series is the best version of the story. I'm glad that Daniel Handler was heavily involved with production on this one, too, it gives a much more official feel to the changes, rather than just being studio mandates, and it's honestly the ending I wished the books had.
Carmalita- is county not my daddy anymore.
Esme- he's not mine either
I DIED
omg please do more videos on this series
3:21 I loved seeing them so happy
Did anyone noticed that in S1 that they showed the picture of the parents. The father didn't have glasses and the mother's face was different. In S3 the father in the picture had glasses and the mother's face was Beatrice instead of the women that was originally in the picture of S1?
Usually they won’t have someone casted so early in a tv series seeing as you only really see the parents in season 3, there would be no way to secure their role in season 1 (as they were not sure if they would get renewed for 2 more seasons) so they just casted people who would resemble their image for the photograph :) x
Eloi all the footage we saw of the parents were all years before their death anyway so they wouldn’t look much older. The original comment was asking why they looked like different people so that’s why I explained it could have something to do with casting. Most tv shows do it :) x
My favorite thing about the changes is that lemony helped write all of them
Daniel Handler. Not Lemony
Apparently Handler was removed from the writing team after season 1. He still wrote the episodes for season 2 and 3 before being taken off but it's unknown how much was still what he wrote.
Fierce Crimson Speedster a.k.a. Edward i believe he wrote until The End because he posted a long time ago about writing the season finale with a bunch of other writers
finally the book series got the justice it deserved
Who else ended up tearing up during Olaf’s death :(
me and kits death
Me! I didn’t expect to but it was so emotional
Same
Me too
Me
Hi there! You forgot the missing people in the hotel like sir and charles being replaced by babs and jerome. Jerome and justice strauss came in the hotel together from what i recall
We still don’t know who started the Baudelaire mansion fire and we don’t know a lot about the man with beard and no hair and the woman with hair and no beard
Shoumaf Olaf set the fire
@@babzie3257 I thought esme set the fire
@@babzie3257 nope. DID YOU EVEN WATCH SEASON 3!?!?!
@@jackdonohue7893 To be fair it leaves it pretty unclear. It's not like Olaf is trustworthy or above lying, especially when his life is in danger. He could still have started it, it's just not definite.
It’s not Olaf because when he was asked by the Baudelaires he said no and there isn’t proof that it’s esme
We should definitely get some more scenes during the time that V.F.D. was created. Like so it’s more clear what happened at the opera, some more facts on the sugar bowl. And when Violet, Klaus and Sunny weren’t born yet. Maybe some more of The Snickets, and Beatrice, when everybody was together and still one noble organisation, but then it leads to the sugar bowl being stolen and how it split up into schisms. I feel like that would be more interesting to watch and so you could get some more background and a clearer idea of what VFD used to be.
I love this show so sad 😭 it is Over
IKR, Shasa?! At least, we've got it to watch over again whenever we feel like it. :-)
a Very Fantastic Dramatic end
same, I still have many questions
I love the moments with Sunny and Hooky (Fernald). The last episode made me cry so much, I was actually really sad when It Olaf died.
Quigley and Jacques never meet in the TV series :(
Idk but I think Malina is really pretty
Dezero 10 youre not alone bud
FBI OPEN UP
Lol me too. FBI, DON’T COME AFTER ME IM A MINOR AS WELL
WEE WOO WEE WOO
Awesome Mystery? Aren’t we all?
I just finished watching this show when I got this notification
Perfect timing! :-)
I legitimately cried when it showed the henchpeople all happy on stage and Fernald with his sister. They were bad people, but they turned around, which makes me very happy.
I'm not sure, but I think the mysterious question mark is the bombinating beast from all the wrong questions. Great video!
One of my favourite moments of season 3 was Olaf’s reaction when Violet told him to help Kit ☺️ I loved seeing the flashback with them, Esmé and Lemony as well 😌 I loved season 3 especially because the penultimate peril is one of my favourite books of the series (other than the austere academy and the ersatz elevator) I just wish that you could see the quagmires reuniting with the baudelaires even though that doesn’t happen in the books
Honestly, I feel like most, if not all, of the changes were for the better. I'm completely in love with the ending, it just wrapped up all the loose ends so satisfyingly.
I read the books when they came out and I've waited years to see Esmé on screen. Lucy Punch is perfect.
Two things,
Dr. Orwell died from falling into lit furnace after being startled, not into saw while fighting Sunny like the books.
And Justice Strauss apparently died at the Hotel Denoument, but in the end of the part 2, she is seen giving the only remaining evidence, a picture of the Bauldalaires from the book, O.L.A.F. to Lemony Snicket.
Most of the changes actually made it better!! I LOVED this series!!!
I liked most of the changes, except for getting rid of Captain Widdershins. I felt that Fiona didn't have as well-defined character as she had in the books. The show seemed to downplay how she was a mycologist, and her "romance" with Klaus in the show seemed cheesy and shoe-horned in. Granted, I haven't read the books in a while so it might have seemed cheesy in the books as well.
I hate the romance beetwen her and klaus
Yes, in the books, Fiona kisses Klaus on the cheek.
@@jewellf6350 Nope she kisses him on the mouth in the books as well.
Yea I liked Captain Widdershins so I was sad when I found out he wasn't going to be in the show. Honestly, I feel like I'm the only one who didn't see any romance or chemistry between Klaus & Fiona and their kiss seemed random to me. Maybe I have forgotten some things about the books, but I read them all in 2017.
Klaus and Isadora had more chemistry... And Klaus kept comparing Violet to Fiona so that's weird.
I’m already crying I bawled when Dewey died😭❤️
I’m a bit sad that the series is over. Maybe Handler can make a sequel showing what happened to the Baudelaires.
It could ruin it though.
@@whatisthisbusiness4681 I think it would ruin it too. To me the whole thing with the story was that it was never going to be a happy ending. To show more would either have to give that happy ending, defeating the warning we're told all the way through. Or they'd have to give us more of the same but with a new villain, so therefore it would be pointless. By not telling us their fate we don't see their ending but we do get an ending.
More stories with Olaf etc would have been great though, it's a pity he didn't write more but small things burning brightly and all that.
khfan4life365 or they could adapt atwq
Well it had to one reason being if they took too long sunny would grow up and no baby will ever replace sunny
No you are missing the point entirely
Penultimate Peril episodes were the best of the series but the finale was really good too. Awesome show and I'm glad they were actually able to do the whole series.
I always hate inaccuracies and changes in adaptations, but with this show, I had the benefit of only a vague recollection of the books (I had totally forgotten the ending) and the knowledge that the script for the series was written by Lemony Snicket himself. If there's anybody who's qualified to know what changes are best made when adapting a story to TV, it's probably the original author.
I don't understand why this didn't get more attention than stranger things 😟😟😟
I'm simply happy that they gave many characters good closure and ended the story on a happier note.
Things the TV series did better this season
-Making the Snow Scouts wealthy children turned into orphans. It shows how Olaf's side of the schism is willing to go to great lengths to hurt innocent people
-Having Quigley show up in Grim Grotto, rather than just sending a telegraph. It not only gives such a huge character a role in more than one book, but it shows the Baudelaires having to leave Quigley like they did with his siblings in Ersatz Elevator
-Hooky showing Sunny sympathy. While it doesn't make sense at first glance, you can see it as a way of him starting over with Fiona.
-Having Babs in the Penultimate Peril
-Excluding the ambiguity of the Quagmires, Hector, Fiona, Fernald, Phil and Captain Widdershins. It's nice that not everyone's fate is unknown.
-Fully explaining the stealing of the Sugar Bowl and how V.F.D. orphaned Olaf.
Things they didn't
-Introducing O.C.'s like Larry and Jacqueline and not using them properly. Larry's death wasn't relevant outside of his one scene, and Jacqueline wasn't even present
-Making Jerome out to be stupid. In the books he shows remorse and arrives with Justice Strauss.
-Under-utilizing Hugo, Kevin and Colette. It was nice that they didn't stick with Olaf, but they could've shown up at the hotel
-Not having Sir, Charles, Hal, Mr. Remora, Mrs. Bass (although I did like her analogy with Mr. Poe) in the hotel
-Leaving out the Denouement brothers' arc of being orphans.
I like the vfd acronyms in the intro! i also really like the vid, glad to know there are ppl out there wqho still watch asoue TT
One unfortunate event can lead to many unfortunate events...
I love the little VFD references she puts in
Fantastic video! very informative!
I feel like they left this ending really open ended, and that if they wanted, they could go and make a season 4 (idk what it would be about because they ran out of books)
You have to agree with me the series has a very catchy theme song.
The scene in which sunny says she’ll stay to spy on Olaf and then Violet says how will sunny escape and then Sunny ties up her hair and says she’ll invent something is probably my favourite moment in the whole show cause she sees her older siblings getting out of trouble and she knows she can too so she does what her older sister always does and ties up her hair.
That is the best scene and always makes me cry
I like the Netflix Ending. It highlights that the series has ended, as the series of unfortunate events have stopped, giving a happy ending.
I love the series, but why is beatrice the second a baudelaire not a denouement or a snicket
I asked the same question.
Because she took the name of the people that raised her (or was given it), sort of like you would with parents who adopt. That would help secure her as part of a family, instead of being on her own.
lwaves yeah good point
Because she was raised by the Baudelaires! I think it’s sweet that she took on their name instead of Denoument or Snicket
She’s a Snicket in the books
I love this entire thing! I’m so mad when people who have only seen the series and think they know everything.
You do a Very Fine Description of this
Very fine deductions.
I love that the TV show gives us way more backstory/insight into VFD, and all their personal lives
Don't forget about the show completely cutting Geraldine Julienne, the Daily Punctilio reporter
Mrs. Poe took that role over, so that character wasn't really lost. At least it gave her more to do on the show.
@@mikec4931 I don't mind cutting sometimes, but combining characters I HATE.
i didnt know that there was a book called beatrice letters ty im buying it rn
If you want more vfd, read the "All the wrong questions" book series. It's about Lemony as a kid, and is really pog
I think the one mayor difference between the Netflix series and the books is how dark it is. In the book it was always dark with Count Olaf being a little more menacing and as well as his troupe. In the Netflix series they are seem to be more silly which make you wonder how they were able to do anything. Another thing is just the mystery. In The End we were left to wonder if The Quagmires, Fiona, Fernald, Justice Strauss, Jerome, and Hector were to survive
Only Hector, Jerome and Justice Strauss are a mystery. The Quagmires and Fiona & Fernald survive
Dylan Thomas Maybe Fiona and Fernald survives but the quagmires were seen to be shot down by the crows and Quigley was seen to
Die in the great unknown
The ending was so emotional
The only change I didn't like was revealing whats in the Sugar Bowl. For such a fascinating Mistery, they should've kept it. The others like the Quagmire and the Baudelaires are a nice happy ending, but the Sugar Bowl should've been kept, as said by Snicket, "in the dark".
More changes-
1, Dr Orwell did a swordfight with sunny in books but she did not do so in the series.
2. The spyglass is shown much more in the series.
3. Jacqueline is not present in the books at all.
4. Olivia Caliban is shown more in series. Madame Lulu is also not good.
5. The contents of the sugar bowl are told in the series
Well, one important thing is that they did not change the fact the Baudelaire children lose their home in a Vicious Fire Disaster.
I am confused on what you said about Beatrice II at I think 7.28? You said she went off to search for Violet,Klaus and sunny, but was she not living with them after they sailed off the island? I was just a little confuse so if anybody can clear it up for me that would be great.😊 I have also read the books and I am a massive fan of them!
Ally Taylor on fandom wiki it says that they were separated during a storm
molly in the middle oh,thank you! But if they were separated and they had one boat how did Beatrice survive as she was only a little baby?
Yes!!! I love this! Thank you!
great stuff, never seen ANY of it...yes, but it looks interesting clipping up as I go.
I still LOVE the 2004 film, and I always will. But my god, this is a masterpiece. I couldn’t get used to it at first and I didn’t give it a chance, and I always wrote it off as “well it’s corny the movie is better.” But now that I’ve given it a chance, I prefer the show, it represents the books so faithfully and so well
My favorite change is about Madame Lulu. She got a huge character development in the show and unlike in the book, she never betrayed the Baudelaires.
*Sunny looked adorable in the third season with her hair down*
Okay this is a tad off topic, but Larry your waiter's death had me shook lmao
Hope they do all the wrong questions
Yes
Or the unauthorized Snicket autobiography
I think they are planning it
Awesome videos
I can’t believe it’s over I’ve been hanging in to this series for 2 years
Every time Kit looked back at the kids while driving I thought she was going to have an accident!!
I liked the part when Olaf kissed Kit, it was a major plot twist that made me rethink the whole series.
I read all the books long before netflix started their series and I would like to say that I liked both, but I was a little mad about some of the things Netflix took out. I actually prefer the sense of mystery that is so prevalent in the books to having everything spelled out for you in the series. Lemony Snicket has a very unique way of writing that kinda forces you to look deeper into the text to try and find out what he's saying. In the book we don't know what Count Olaf is planning until the Baudelaires do. But in the show, we can see exactly what is happening as it's happening, because they show Olaf's plan through the whole thing. Also there are things that can only be captured in writing. Like in one of the books, Lemony writes a secret letter to Kit in the book that the reader is not supposed to see.
Also, I really like the ending in the books because in the series, there are 13 books. 13 is known for being unlucky, but at the end of book 13, The End, there's a 14th book. I like to think that the chain of unfortunate events is finally broken, and I imagine that everything worked out fine. Also to those of you who don't know, The Bombinating Beast is most likely the Great Unknown, who is a creature from the Clusterous Forest in Stain'd by the Sea and is quite dangerous.
Other things that they changed were that the trial in the penultimate peril didn't go like that at all. The Baudelaires wanted to tell their story and bring count olaf to justice, but they figured out something was suspicious. In the book everybody was blindfolded and Justice Strauss couldn't talk because of Olaf's associates, and the Baudelaires realized Justice wasn't talking so they took off their blinfolds. They never got to have their trial. Next thing they changed was that the Quagmire parent side plot wasn't at all included in the books. In the first episodes they have the Quagmire's parents getting captured and going to peru and all sorts of things, but the books doesn't include that at all. Lastly, (this one is stupid I know) Esme didn't have her fire dress on in the slippery slope. That dress had a mystery around it, as the book said that somebody else had worn that dress long ago, and that the dress had history. Completely removing it made me a little bit sad.
The show was Very Fantastically Done, wish they could've added more like a special part showing Violet, Klaus, and Sunny grown up doing something as to where they ended up and what happened to VFD and stuff
My favorite characters are Kit, Lemony, Jacques, Violet, Klaus, Sunny, Dewey, and Jerome.
It’s weird how esme never cared that lemony was OBSESSED with Beatrice
I wish the Baudelaires and the quagmires reunited because violet had a thing with both Duncan and Quigley and I wanted to see who she ends up with
ikr i was kinda like "but she liked duncan?" and i was hoping she'd be with him
In the books its implied she ends up with Quigley but nothing is ever confimed
I love this show but the only thing i hate about it is that it ended
Why!?!?!
I think the ambiguous ending makes it even more powerful though. I've been continuously thinking about everything that happened since I saw the final scene four days ago. It leaves a lot to the imagination and forces you to imagine what you think happened.
@@TCO_404 They didn't hate the ending, they hate that it ended, i.e. they wanted it to go on for longer so they could see more. At least, that's how I read their comment.
That's how the story goes.....
@@stefantudose7880 it sure is I love that song too
I'm going to miss this show, it was a very fun drama to watch, I think the actors did a vocally fantastic delivery of their lines. I am glad the vague final days from the book were vamped for determined endings for all of the characters.
I love this channal and this show
N9 one talks about all the secret messages in the Beatrice letters book I've found one message that I believe is about Olaf and how Beatrice was trying to recruit him but lemony was unsure if they could trust him. Then I went online to see if anyone else found any messages and I only found one other person who had found a message in one of the other letters using a famous roman Cypher he didn't tell what he found because he wanted fresh eyes looking for the codes because he be level that any of the letters could contain multiple messages overlapping one another so if he showed everyone what was there that's all they would see. But why hasn't anyone but me and this one guy been talking about the secret messages. And after all this time why hasn't anyone solved them.
I think the changes made sense. There's a lot of unanswred questions in the books which Snicket fixed later down the line but would only be really messy if made into a TV series.
Season 3 was the best season I had ever watched in my career of Netflix, especially the ending, well done to the creators of this show and well done lemony
FERNALD AND SUNNY ARE JUST OMGGGGGGGGG- like they as if they like older brother and baby sister like awwwwww