GM's BEST KEPT SECRET IS OUT!...The Saturn Ion Redline
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- This little 2.0 supercharged 4 cylinder eats V8's for breakfast!...oh and its also faster than the neon srt4s and cobalt ss as well.
The saturn ion redline is that one car you forgot exists, until today. thats because im shedding light on one of the most underrated sports cars ever produced ny general motors company.
I always thought the ion redline looked cool. Like a fictional car you’d see in a grand theft auto or burnout game.
I own a redline and let me tell you they are amazing.
It was my dream car at one point. But now my dream is a skyline r34. But it still my 4th favorite car
Those came with recaro seats btw.
07 had those leather heated seats fyi owner of 3 redlines
Yes they did
Saturn replaced the Recaro's seats with Black Leather seats I believe in 2007
@oscar.noahrivera4664 I've owned 2 06 irl they get the grey Recaro seats instead of blue
They were potent!! I was playing with one on the highway, and I had an '04 Impala SS with the 3800 Supercharger...we were about neck and neck up until about 125 mph, and he just kept pulling on me!! I know my car has a limitet at 123, but it was reprogrammed. Still, that Saturn kept pulling quicker than I was! Salute!!!
Did he actually do any research on this? It was 205 hp, slower than the SRT, and more expensive than the SRT.
Doesn't sound like it lol
He's too busy researching Mr regulars voice and speech patterns.
And I believe he said fake hood scoop I own a Srt4 it’s not fake it’s travels to the turbo
Actually I only paid 20k out the door for mine I’m 2005. With the favored GM Stage 2 kit it made 240hp. A lot of the stage 2 cars made 220 to the wheels. I never dyno mine but it was much faster after the upgrade.
@@FugitiveVette SRT stage 2 made 240+ at the wheels.
Fyi the SRT-4 hood scoop was functional it directed air from the hood scoop to the turbo exhaust manifold
Unfortunately the hood scoop was closed off and did nothing other then looks. I own two of them atm
Srt4 would blow that shit away
@@maxlarntson so i own one and maybe if you looked under the hood there are x4 exits x2 at the front radiator and x2 at the rear to cool down the turbo
@@paintslinger2009 I have a 05 srt-4 and mine is definitely functional. It has ports opening right above the turbo manifold to help push air down and back out the back of the engine bay. Clearly the other guy is blind.
@@s.in.bagger9933 Agreed, I own a 2003 SRT-4 and the hood scoop is open allowing air into the engine compartment. It's not a closed fake scoop that's for sure.
I've always felt the ecotec gm 4 was the best 4 cylinder on the time. It was winning a lot of hp wars.
Now with more time though I’d say more people have found ways to make power in the srt4’s but then again I haven’t really seen any built Saturn really
Except the timing chain and shit breaks on it all the time
I always liked the 2.5 door Saturns. The Saturn ION Quad Coupe is a front wheel drive Mazda RX-8.
Front wheel drive is for grocery getters.
Didnt the RX8 have a rotary motor??
@@motorcitymanman7711 Yes it did.
@@atx-cvpi_99
Well the Saturn didnt have a rotary, so how do you make that comparison??
@@motorcitymanman7711 They have the same quad coupe body type.
I had 1 of these in high school. My friends would call it the "panty dropper" because when I would show up to a party my friends knew they didnt have to worry about me dropping any pantys so it gave them a better chance.
snowbarrel1710 flute lmfaoo I had a ecotec n/a with 2 12” subs in mine and girls loved it
I think they meant you, not the car 😆
@@LynxStarAuto nah it was the car because I had better chance once others showed up in there civics.
snowbarrel1710 flute LOL
snowbarrel1710 flute wait so a Civic wasn't a hot box in highschool? 🤔
Times a changed! When I was in HS (back in the late 90's). A civic was an easy way to start a small family.
Imagine this but AWD. Lol
It will Be A Good Idea! But Its Competitor Will Be Subaru WRX And Evo
AHR Red and Focus RS
It's been a thought
Sorta pointless man. Not point to be AWD
WarDuck Tank Co.
Cause you suck at driving?
You're right about the Redline exceeding 100k easily. Mine has just over 230k and still runs like a top.
However you did miss one glaring problem they had: the clutch. Specifically the rubber bushing that stops the pedal in place when it is released. This WILL fail eventually. If you catch it early replacing the bushing is relatively cheap and simple. But once it completely fails, part of the linkage actually punches through itself and you have no choice but to replace the entire pedal assembly. I've gone through two, and now there isn't a single one left in a junkyard within 200 miles of my house.
You can get the new plastic pedal from the cobalts this always happens but no big deal ! I've replaced all kinds of shit on every car I've owned this thing can take a beating .
the oldsmobile lss from the late 90's was the ultimate sleeper back then!!!!
Olds Aurora??
I had one. 1998 Olds LSS with the 3.8l supercharged V6. A bulletproof motor already doing about 220 N/A WITH a supercharger? Thing was a beast. Had to get rid of mine due to rot, had an 1999 Olds 88 after that, 3.8L N/A V6, still had balls, but blew the tranny. God I miss that car.
@@raymundorubio2375 olds Aurora was a good idea in theory, but, misfires, 250 degree engine temps and Northstar issues plagued it. Ask me how I know
@@williamsinger4124 mostly any sleeper has a fluke of a problem bro
I always figured those were quick.
Stock Ion redline is 205hp and 200 ftlbs torque. Weight was listed 2980.
I grew up around Saturn's my dad owned way too many to keep count. I grew up working on them and I learned how to drive in a L300 which came with a v6 out of a saab, I've owned 4 Saturn's in my life
98 sl1
00 sl2
06 ion 2
07 ion redline
And every single one would get any place I'd try to take them my 00 sl2 was swapped with a 2.2 ecotech from a 05 ion and me and my buddies made a 5" lift kit for it and it would keep up with all the trucks so it's safe to say I love saturns
I dont like Saturns but your passion for that platform is good shit bro run what you brung be proud to wrench on your ride!!
Saab 9-5 aero in 2002 put out 250 hp I’ve got one and it’s pretty darn fast it’s got a 2.3 turbo in it
why
my fast car is my GTI but my daily is an Ion with the 2.2 that little baby has 289,000 miles and is still going strong! I've developed a soft spot in my heart for Saturns now.
Hood scoop was functional on the SRT. It directed air over the turbocharger.
Let’s not forget they made the vue suv in a redline edition also
With a v6 Honda motor...
With a J series!
I never knew about the Redline until a year ago I thought all the Ions were junk. Then I got the doors blown off of my lightly modded 04 mustang GT by a straight piped Redline 😂
Boosted GT I know that thing had to sound horrible straight piped
@@silverrain99205 it did lol like a pissed off Civic as it blew my doors off
Boosted GT Id Consider changing Vehicles if a Saturn Drove right past my Big V8 Stang. Lolololol u got trolled irl LMAO
I blew a civic Si’s doors off in my redline lol
@@ColdVsIce same here. Also a couple of RSX, v6 camaro and stangs as well. V8 dudes dont play to much around here, even though I'll loose lol
The ion has good Acoustics at least. I had a system that sounded twice as good in that car than in my mustang. I had two 12's but it sounded like 15s
Brethren of Yeshua I have a single skar sdr 12 on 600 watts in a Saturn ion 4 door and it sounds like so much more I love it
Brethren of Yeshua No 15s lows hit harder and Deeper 12s have a high Bass
Yea for real I had a 2006 ion 4 door with 2 , 10in Memphis and those pounded in that car. It would make the wiper arms jump lol
Get 1 15' and you'll see what I mean! That 10 or 12 may be hittin but not like a 15!!!!! FACTS!
2006 owner. I put 320k miles with no major issues. Vehicle might still be out there running.
Although I've owned and loved several fwd performance cars, fwd burnouts just look silly.
For real? I think they look amazing but depends on the car
He'll naw it's sweet to me ..
My block is covered in burnouts from my fwd ion
I test drove on of these when they first came out. Was a fun car for the 10 minutes i drove it. And they implemented that dent proof shell. Was my first boosted car experience. They are even better turbo charged. Still i love my cobalt, had an lsj, now got an lnf.
Luke Skywalker Damn Luke Skywalker drives an SS? I should really be thinking about joining the Jedi Alliance.😂
@@VideoProducification 🤣🤣🤣
Mine never torque-steered. It would roast the tires but it wouldn't pull to other side. They thought about this and made the cv axles are equal length. Same with the cobalt ss. I've had both. Only scary part is under throttle you have no steering because it just wants to roast the front tires lol
And no. 205hp(more like 210-215hp) stock. Stage 2 has 42lb injectors and 3inch pulley for 240ish hp, stage 3 with heat exchanger dual pass 60lb injectors and option b with 2.8 pulley will get you 260ish hp and 230ish tq. It's the same lsj as the cobalt ss/sc that I have currently. I have stage 2 with all the intake and exhaust goodies(catless do, header, resonator delete and 2.5 high flow out the back.) And I'm at about 240hp and 215-220tq.
P.s. they only torque steer you off the road is you are a noob lol.
HITMIX HYEPOCK Yessir. For the hp numbers I think he was as going off of the stage 2 option that you can buy at the dealership.
@@DR.P3RKY yeah probably. Lol
HITMIX HYEPOCK Does the cat delete make the exhaust note more raspy? I’ve been thinking about getting a catless downpipe but I’m not a fan of raspy noises.
@@DR.P3RKY I hear with the resonator it's fine. I have resonator delete, I dont think it's bad at all. Loud as hell when I'm on it, and pretty normal when just average driving.
@@DR.P3RKY I can tell the difference between the stock exhaust manifold and the shorty header. And also with the cat vs catless. I'd go catless just for the exhaust flow improvement.
But get the downstream 02 extension so you dont throw codes.
Interesting video. I happened to work at Saturn when the Ion Redline was sold new. We had three that sat on the lot for six months, not because Dads bought them, but because no one bought them. Heck, the parts manager picked one up with the GM friends and family discount for something like $5000 off msrp. I took each one out and tried to scare myself with any of them, but nothing happened. There is the expectation that these would be fast, but it's all hype. The supercharger doesn't make meaningful boost until about 3000 rpm, and then the thing starts pulling timing at around 4500 and the fun (if there was any) comes to an abrupt halt (6500 rpm redline). Bear in mind these were brand new cars, with about 300 miles on them, zero wear. Oh, and as others have mentioned-your HP/TQ numbers are off. It's 205 horse. GM Performance Parts offered the 236 HP as a dealer installed upgrade-if memory serves, it was higher flow injectors with an ecu reflash-we sold zero of these. There was no torque steer. None. It wouldn't, it had equal length half-shafts with lifeless electric powersteering. You neglected to mention the final run of these could be had with an LSD to improve traction out of tight corners (it would spin the inside front). Ultimately this is no sleeper and is just a slightly quicker Ion. Chevy went to the 260HP turbo version of this engine in the Cobalt SS Turbo, and that was actually fairly fast for the time and the true SRT fighter. Especially when paired with the 290 HP GM Performance Parts reflash. The only Saturn sleeper there ever was is probably the 2004-2007 Saturn Vue V6 FWD, which is only fastish because of the 250 HP Honda drivetrain.
How does this comment only have 1 like you should have made this video bet it would have actually been accurate
They were listed as 205 but some were dynod up to 230 off the line depending on tune updates. Stage2 pushed to 245-250, I purchased mine 6 months after buying car. I still have mine after 12 years at 350hp
I have a 2006 supercharger redline and it will definitely do the 140 mph,,it will kick it and I'm not lieing
@@pameladellinger7802 When new, the top speed was 145 mph, so 140 is believable.
Great video! I have owned a 2006 ion Redline Competion With the GM stage two package since new. It has always been a blast to drive. It’s was only a daily driver for me for a short time so to this day it only has 45k miles on the odometer. And even better I also was a band new dad in 2006 when I purchased it. I will never sell it. RIP Saturn.
i was just driving down the road earlier today, never heard of this car before but then i saw one, and it was loud, and i was like, nice car, oh wait thats a saturn, pretty cool, then i get home and see this video and am now in a state of awe.
It's a shit bucket. Do not be fooled.
Mines pushing 300 hp
@Sidney Grove im not familiar with saturn, i know audi, if you can find a b6 audi with the 1.8t or the 3.0, wouldn't be a bad decision as long as the timing belt was replaced on the 1.8t, one of mine are at 202k miles and just got a new timing belt, the 3.0 is a basic v6 but they're reliable, 1.8t is too but just has more parts that could go wrong since it's a turbo 4 cylinder
I worked at a Saturn dealer during the time these cars came out. I was a detailer so alot of times I would be one of the last to leave at night, after prepping cars for customers on a late sale. One evening the manager came out and asked me to pull the cars around back that the truck was unloading. It was a Saturn sky turbo, I think the first one in Florida. I did a few donuts, cleaned it and put it out front. We did lots of burnouts in the detail booth with redlines too, or anything else we were given to drive good times
Burn outs with a front wheel drive? Cool story bro. Then you got fired.
They were listed as 205 stock but some cars off the line were dynod up to 230 it all depended on the tune update and the car itself. Stage2 was a factory upgrade at the time was like 1200$ and usually pushed it to 245-250. Neons did not kill the sales on redlines. Saturn did not promote the redline fully and only produced around 7500 total. I purchased the last new redline in my state and still drive it today at 350hp
The Cobalt SS TC(09-10) was stock 270 horses. for 600 bucks you could buy a chip and have it installed by the dealer, ie not voiding the warranty, and have 300 horses. the fastest front wheel drive car ever at VIR (car and driver Lightning Lap) until the Civic type R showed up. dont take my word... go look it up.
First off, Badass video, And second, I had one of these as my second car, I used to troll all kinds of people in it, and surprise them to how quick it could be, course, i was young, and broke, so i didn't ever mod it. Sadly, i had to keep it stock, but it still hauled ass. and could break the tires free all day.
How much is insurance on these things? I can imagine it's a lot cheaper than most of the other cars cuz it's lesser known
@@p.diocee8177 sorry for the late reply, it was 68$ a month on a 17 year old driver. They're pretty cheap, and if you're older, it will be cheaper. Although, it could vary company to company.
@Jay Rams Super underrated and cheap cars. The insurance company doesn't view it as a sports car, so they are affordable. As for the car you talked about, if its too much id leave it, but if its easily able to be worked on fairly cheaply and easy, id keep at it. They're great cars!
My gti had 350 whp with no traction control and it was my daily for a few years and it was the best, you make 250hp sound like its 500 in a fwd, the torque steer isn’t even that bad. you better go watch some boostedboiz if you want to see a fast fwd.
My srt4 doesn't have any traction issues.. lol. 22psi big turbo making 425hp. He does make this car sound godly.. but there's a reason why these failed at sales
I have a GLI 2.0 TSI with a tune. I got a street tune. Stage 1. Supposedly good for 280hp, tho I have never dynoed it. My car is quick, but I wouldn't call it fast. Not much heavier either than the Saturn. 250hpnout of that shit box Saturn is nothing to write home about.
A. Your horsepower figure is wrong. These made 205. Sane as the 2005-2007 Cobalt Ss’
2. That’s a heluva lot of mods for just 45hp. You’d be better off with a dozen go fast stickers.
C. The LNF motor beats this in every way, for only a bit more coin.
All that being said, I’m a sucker for supercharger whine, so I’d still take the LSJ.
These made 205 to the wheels, more at the crank. A couple were dyno'ed when they were new and made 220 wheel actually. And that's not many mods for 45hp, it's well under a grand. No need to port the head.
yeah the horsepower math was wrong
also being boosted multiplies hp through mods, instead of NA just adding hp
Take the L & f head what 260 horses since it was turbocharged. Only thing I liked about the Cobalt more than Ion was later on you get the Cibalt in 4 real doors
One of my favorite car of all the time the Saturn Ion Redline I really love that car and really want on so bad
Wasn't stock it was the same as the SS Supercharged? 205hp not 230ish.
Some came with the gm performance kits that bumped power
Yes they came 205hp.
205 hp isn't that bad to me for the time and for what it was. Its as powerful as a civic si or rsx. But with more torque. The lsj motor is a pretty decent motor
@@demetriussimpkins4810 I know I have one lol Those Delta Cars are friggen stout. They pull like a freight train stock even at half throttle
@@nareshsookraj9230 yup i have one.and since having it only had to replace the clutch. Kinda expensive because of the labor. But no doubt it is a fun car.
The red line and cobalt have the same LSJ engine. One huge turnoff for me is the car gauge cluster is not in front of the driver. I do like the suicide doors though.
I just finished dyno tuning my 07 Cobalt SS. I came in at 253HP at the wheels. I've got 60# injectors, 2.9" pulley, and an upgraded intercooler. Nothing too crazy. I'm honestly more than happy with this much power for a front wheel drive car. I've got good control and I feel I won't have issues in winter (I live in Canada)
You really shamelessly mimicked Regular Car Reviews in narration.
This video was a little miss informing. I have an ion redline. It comes with 205hp stock but with a pully, injectors, and a tune it will put the car at 246-ish hp. ZZPerformance sells a full kit for 400 dollars. You don’t need ported heads and spacers to crank out power but it sure does help!
The LNF Cobalt SS is GM's best kept secret. Most ppl still don't even know a turbo version was made. Basic bolt ons ($1100) with an e47 or full e85 tune will put you at 340-350whp & 380-400 torq. What are you talking about, an ION? 250hp lol thats decent but simma down now!!
My 2006 Redline still up n running 130K. Always reliable. Just did Vegas - SO Oregon. The supercharger is a lifesaver on overtaking. Suspension is super stiff so going over some bumpy roads can suck. Nonetheless car looks great and is still great fun to drive. People still ask what car it is.
Gm killed Saturn and Saab. Took their tech and ideas for their rebirth from bailout
Saab was a different brand completely only partially owned by gm
GM killed saturn... saab was a different story, a saab sob story
I remember when these first came out. A dude in my town bought one, 3 weeks later he raced a srt4, and wrapped it around a pole. The srt4 won.
'08-'10 Cobalt SS was the real mvp, extremely underrated.
@420 Friendly I didn't know I was a comedian 😀
Thanks bro👍 got a 2008 black SS🏁
Ive got an 04 Ion RL with full bolt on stage 3 and its lovely.
It doesn't have 230 hp. It only has 205 hp. I have an ion redline and the torque steer isn't really that bad either.
Nicholas Lane do you have the stage kits that GM put out for the redline? They make it so the car pushes a little over 250hp, bought because a friend recommended it, it’s a zippy car and yeah the torque steering isn’t too bad.
I thought the torque steer was pretty tame on my ion redline
I have the upgraded newer Cobalt SS tranny with taller gears and limited slip I can take my hands off the wheel at full acceleration . All zzp stage 3 shit had a Cobalt w all gm factory upgraded parts too zzp is like half the price same quality.
Srt-4 advertised hp numbers were underrated. I remember guys getting 230 hp to the wheels. Back In 2003.
It has more torque
Why are you trying to sound like the guy from Regularcars
I mean some people sound similar....
It's underrated, but it's effectively identical to the Cobalt SS's that were supercharged. They do make more power than what they're claimed to make, but even the SRT4's and cobalts did as well.
P.S. Don't install the cold air intake to try and make power in a redline. They don't. They only let blower noises out
Funny that the Saturn Ion was mentioned on Brooklyn Nine Nine when this video was recommended.
i have one lol, currently making 350 hp
Can I see a video of it? I am curious now.
"All the cobalts/neons lie in pieces..."
Watching this as my first car, 05 chevy cobalt is on its way to the junk yard for salvage. My heart hurts 😢
I still have a 2008 g5 my built 08 cobalt. Was totalled by my wife...lol damnit
The red saturn with racing strips is still around just waiting for a tune
LSJ full turbo swap from ZZPerformance and an Ion will leave that SRT4 like it was standing still and wouldn't cost a person any more $ (with turbo swap makes 325-375 WHP). It'll require a little bit of work, but FULL BOLT ON. Don't look back, gap some SRT4's on their way to the mechanics (notorious 3rd gear and motor issues with an SRT4). or go Cobalt SS Supercharged. Super cheap, same LSJ.
Im guessing he owns a red line. All i heard watching this was "my car is best car".
You gotta do the Chevy Malibu Maxx I use to work at Avis and would have to drive them from NY to NJ and they was the best thing going
I love my Malibu maxx. Wish I had the ss
@@jarrodmartin8772 yo the SS is SICK
Have you done a vid about pontiac gtp widetrack 3.8 supercharged 4d and 2d plus the 3.8 is the most reliable v6 ever
Wouldnt go that far but good engine, good cars
@@jonahruntz9818 they are well at least for gasoline v6 but im sure there is a diesel v6 that goes forever but from what i know buick 3.8s are the best v6
Not the best ever. Sure great engine. But talking gm a 4.3 is by far a longer lasting engine. Seen many with 400k+ that ran perfectly still. V6 wise tho. Any j series honda v6 is better. Or the Toyota camry 3l and 3.5l. Seen many taxis go a million with that v6. Im a mechanic i can tell u what v6 i see come thru the shop with the most mileage. Hondas and toyotas by far out last any other. Cant take anything away from a 3.8 tho. Had a few. One supercharged it took abuse let me tell ya lol
4:14 has to be the slowest trans am I've ever seen..
Lawnmowers smh
Lt1
@@CuckBalls front facial looks like an ls1 model to me.. must have a bad driver mod
@@marzinvades8765 it's actually an ls1 I checked the vid. That 4l60 is a dog though and it sounded stock. I own a fucking slow ass v6 one so I know
2006 ion redline owner since new, GM stage 2 kit dyno at 245 HP / 220 torque (in 2007) Just hit 200k miles. Agreed stock to the wheels is 205hp
Ever have any timing chain issues after the first 100k miles? How difficult was the stage 2 kit to install. Thinking of getting a stage3 kit to do it myself
I bought one new in 2005! I still have it and it has 170k on it now! It’s a stage 2 with stop tech rotors EBC yellow pads, some other chassis upgrades and a magnaflow exhaust system. I love it! It’s been my daily for 14 years!
Hows she doing still? Picking one up with 125k miles this weekend for my birthday. I intend to check the timing chain and tensioner as well as the intercooler coolant pump as i hear all of these go out after 60 to 100k miles especially the coolant pump but its a quick replacement part for 100.
Sounds like a great deal! My car is doing great! Just hit 180,000! miles! One thing to check is the clutch pedal. They made them out of plastic 😂 If they break not only do you need a new pedal but you also have to replace the slave cylinder.
@@FugitiveVette from what i can see and feel the clutch pedel is running smooth as is the transmission and timing chain. no rough sounds at high RPMs. though im having to relearn to drive a stick as it has been about 10 years since i drove one as my dd. just put 1000 down on it today and monday my credit union will be open to finish paying off the rest so i can pick it up. wanted it today or yesterday for my birthday but a few days late wont hurt. i did forget to check the cv joints and wheel bearings which is fairly wasy to check but even if they are gone it should be too expensive to replace. my main concern for the moment is the intercooler coolant pump as im almost 100% sure its not working. it runs without it but they run much hotter which isnt good for them. thankfully its only a hundred dollar part and fairly easy to replace. i would be happy to see it make it to 180 or 200k miles at least before any major involuntary repairs. car was 4800 dollars and seemingly babied by an older driver who didnt really push it much or rev it. so i hope it has a lot of life in it and im not just overpaying by 800 for no reason
Billy Buchanan Sounds like you got a great deal keep me updated! You should consider getting an 0304 Ford Mustang cobra heat exchanger. I was going to do that to mine but I never followed through.
I had a 99 saturn 2 door it was decked out lowerd black 17 rims black paint short throw shifter cams exhaust system intake the whole nine that car haulled ass saturns are really great cars
Wow!! After several mods I can get close to 250hp? How come I never knew about this monster!
I am so glad some one posted a video about this. I drove one of these when it came out, it was surprisingly quick it was a hidden jewel in its time.
Tons of cobalt ss/sc cars still out there lol.
@Greg they weren't the most reliable cars. That said though. You kept up on them they will run solid for quite some time. Says an hhr ss owner with 140k on the dash. 3rd owner. Daily driven. 👌
Wont lie, they are a bit cheesy, interior wise. Had an '11 ford escape for a number of years. V6 one with the sport appearance package. Xlt trim so definitely not the highest trim level. Both new are about 25-30k cars. My escape by far was much more nicely done to my wagon ss and the hhr is a top of the line model lmao. But even as a ford guy by preference i love this little chevy. The ecotec motors in these things aren't no joke. Other than some electrical issues they may get when they get older the ecotec motors themselves fundamentally are super, super tough. Have the ability to handle some serious power too.
@@koolaidwaterfountainsforth4236 lmao Ecotec's are trash and always have been.
@@waterloo123100 that's why they still make ecotec variants to this day right? The 2.0 is a pretty stout motor really. Have you owned one? Lets start there.
Stage one kit, intake, piping, dp and exhaust with a tune ontop of that. Just basic bolt ons youre over 300whp.
Considering a 2.0 inline 4 in general is a prime candidate for boost. Then aluminum block, head and forged internals. Got a halfway decent little motor on your hands. Not hard to drop in a upgraded ko4 turbo and run around daily driven on a easy 350whp lol
Now that these cars are pushing over 10 years old... most 10 year old cars develop electrical issues and bugs, surprise surprise. Nothing normal maintenance and a halfway handy person can't do on their own for the most part.
Im not afraid to hop in my ss right now and take a long trip. I drove it 100 miles today alone roughly 50 miles each way at a few points and time zipping down the highway at 90-95 just cruising along getting 26mpg nearly 😜
@@koolaidwaterfountainsforth4236 Lmao I love to see you make 300 whp with just minor bolt ons. Go troll someone else.
@@waterloo123100 the OEM stage one kit GM offered.. still offers is good for 290hp and 315foot pounds. From 260/260 stock. That's just a T-map change and ECU flash to crank up the boost from 15ish psi to 20psi.
Thats stock. No bolt ons. Go look this shit up my dude 😂😂😂 do your bolt ons and wala. You atleast move that 290 from the crank to the front wheels. I absolutely guarantee you.
My mom owned 2 Ion Coupes. Her first one was a redline. She hated that it was stick so when her lease was up she got a normal Ion Coupe with an automatic.
If it weren’t for my foolish driving, I’d still be driving my ion past 160,000 miles
All kinds of wrong info here..This is definitely NOT faster than the 2008-2010 Cobalt SS which has 260hp/260lbs torque in stock form.
Because it's turbo dumbass
@@6BorkJuice9 No shit Einstein who said it wasn't?
The ion coupe is basically a cobalt with RX-8 doors & S15 like nose.
**Coughs** nice cobalt ss
I bought one of these for my first car paid 3k for it and man that thing would rip. I never got tired of seeing the guys face in the mustang gt lose to a Saturn. Haha I wish I still had it.
Haha yep I beat some old bmw uphill 130mph he was scowling the whole time lol.
The srt4 hood scoop was active not fake fyi but I love my ion redline.
Other car brands: u cannot put 4 doors on a coupe Saturn : yes I can
I wouldnt say that it put the SS and the SRT4 to "absolute shame" it was on par with the ss supercharged but failed to meet the later turbo optioned SS's and some SRT4's supposedly came out with 240 even 250WHP from factory.
The Saturn ion was undoubtedly the uglyist out of the three as well, wether it was poorly marketed or not. It was NEVER going to outsell the "main brand" chevy ss or the superiorly styled SRT4.
The only reason this car has any light nowadays is because it didnt have any back in it's time. It has the light now because it was overlooked in the past. It's a rule that uncool things tend to gain in popularity in the future... hence why datsuns are shooting up in price and the saab 900 classics are aswell... those are just two examples of underappreciated cars gaining interest and value past their prime because supply and demand are limited.
You can find these cars with 100k miles on them for around 5k and for that price, it's hard to beat and if you are looking for a "domestic import" this is the only affordable option nowadays.
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Please do a before you buy on the mazda miata mx-5 NC . It's not loved enough compared to other miatas and needs some love!
Personally I like the look of the NC (third generation) chassis Mazda MX-5 Miata.
Most people think it looks fat, but I think those fenders look nice.
The SRT4 hood scoop is not fake I don't know where you got that information but everyone that I've seen are the actual functioning hood scoop
I’ll never forget, I got this car when I was 16 years old for a STEAL. $6K and only 20,000km’s on it! I was sitting in a parking lot waiting for friends to meet me. And A group of girls - mid 20’s, pulled up near me, in an Escalade and made fun of the car and said that i drive a girly car. I burned out fucking hard, tire smoke everywhere from the front wheel drive, I could barely see and REDLINED IT and watched as their Jaws DROPPED. I tried to pull back up near them to talk some shit back and they wouldn’t roll down their windows from Daddy’s car LMAO. I had great memories with this fun car.
I love how all these tools post about what they supposedly did to their cars, but then they give your numbers like "about" 230hp and 210-215"ish" torque.
If you take your car to a dyno, and they say you produced ABOUT a number of horsepower, or a number ISH or torque... Please find a different company to dyno your ride.
That being said, everyone who I have ever met who has dyno'd their car/truck knows the exact numbers they pulled. The EXACT numbers. When people start ballparking they are usually lying. Haven't done squat to their cars.
"yah bruh i did x, y, and z to my ride yo!!!!!! eets got liek 400 hoarse power!!! "
" Sounds great; let's race. "
" uhh ahh we'll it ain't been tuned yet n I dun wanna burn up teh motor u know so yah mebbe next tiem??! "
" Well, that explains why it sounds like shit. Just. Like. You. "
Am I the only one who has witnessed similar interactions? I doubt it. 😉
To the true tuners and modders out there: keep up the awesome work!
To the posers: ... Yeah.*pats you on the back* Maybe someday, little fella. Maybe someday.
Calm down a little on the roleplay son
@@jacobwebb8818 Shut up, Dad! Why do you have to be so judgmental? This is why you and Mom are in counseling. Gosh!
Happens all the time. I called out guy other day talking 6sec 0-60 at a gas station. I walked right up and said so when are we racing, he says unless you got 4 stacks we arnt racing. I said ok then lets go right now and he immediately says nah. Then I said good decision and I wouldnt be telling people 6 sec 0-60 that's slow as fuck.
snowbarrel1710 flute u randomly call out ppl at gas stations for boasting.. I usually get rolled up on at red lights and get asked things like what’s done to it or how much is it making.. I usually respond “idk let’s find out”..
The supercharged ecotec works well in a 2 seater sandrail if u double the boost and use e85. What u got left is just another disposable American made compact car.
I wish Saturn released the Ion RL with the turbo engine but the Cobalt SS Turbo (its cousin) is also released when GM was almost broke.
Hell yea supercharged 4 bangers. Haha gm was like "we got to make these domestic some how" haha i have one of gms supercharged V6 Vehicles. 198000 miles completly stock bottom end, heads etc making 100whp more than stock still killing it!
Agree I got one use in Mexico and it was very reliable. That made me got a Saturn relay van, also fantastic.
I was probably one of the few guys his early to mid 20s who wanted an Ion Redline. Come to think of it, I was probably one of the few in that age bracket who loved the Saturns I had.
Hood scoop on a srt4 is 100% real and functional there are air passages under the hood that deliver cool air directly to the turbo on the back side of the motor
Bought one of these when I was 20 when they were just a few years old. It was a fun car
I wanted a redline , but it was impossible to find one at dealerships. So I got an srt4 instead. And the neon scoop is not fake
that drag race with the trans am killed me
The Saturn Ion Redline and Cobalt SS were basically twins, but the Cobalt had a turbo and supercharger option and the Ion Redline only had the supercharger option.
the Chevy Cobalt didn't have an option for a turbo or supercharger. in the last years of the Cobalt in like 2008 or 2009 they switched to a turbo because GM lost their contract with Eaton. so then that's when GM went the turbo route which ended up making the Cobalt even faster.
I honestly can't remember the last time I even saw a neon SRT4, I think the last time I saw one was back in 2012. The Ion redline still around, I saw one a couple weeks ago.
Which is saying something sincethere are only arpund 8-10k redlines ever made
I own a 2005 irl. All stock besides a cold air intake. 196xxx miles still runs strong. Ive also got a red one, one of the rarest colors for redlines. Love it and my next one will be turbo swapped. Look those up turbo lsj ion redline
waldo187 I too have a red ion redline with 142,000 miles but the clearcoat is peeling on the wing and front bumper. I have an intake and a borla muffler on it.
@@DR.P3RKY are you on the fb forum page?
waldo187 nope, I just use fb for buying stuff but I’ll give it a look
My friends and i were driving this in Forza 4 a few weeks back, this is our inside joke now lmfao
why is this guy acting like 250 hp at the front wheels is deadly lmao theres plenty of fwd cars out there making 300+ horsepower with no issues
Chris Corkum yeah but ITS A FREWAKING ION
Chris Corkum WITH A SUPERCHARGER
@@lettucehead5886 with LASERS!
I've been wanting one of these so hard recently
WTF THIS GUY REALLY LEFT HIS PHONE GOING OFF IN THE VIDEO 😂😂
I have a 2009 cobalt SS Turbo and I would blast past this turd into another dimension. The Turbocharged LNF Cobalt is GM's best kept secret.
chris Sure is, got a 2008 here👍
The 08 and 09 ss man u crazy if u think that redline would touch them stock
I own one. There was only 6,000 ever sold, the car is rare. Good luck finding one.
I recently got one. Traded mg computer setup for it 🤣
"Just to clarify this car WILL kill you"
😂😂😂😂
Not really they are pretty safe
@@jakinoutcreekst They don't take side impact well and if you didn't get the comp package in the early versions they had single pull fwd (not limited slip) this would cause steering issues at high speeds.
Having owned 4 of them, I'm sure they dont take side very well but I've personally seen how they take other damage and it's much better than in would've thought I have a friend that rolled his 4 times and he walked away
I had one of the first years a 2004 silver model, I like sleepers and this was a definition of a sleeper. It had 205 horsepower and 200 pounds of torque. It would torque steer but if you know what you're doing you can keep going straight. It was one of the worst launching cars I've ever had, it would spin those tires and axle hop without even blinking an eye. I was 22 or 23 when I bought it and I think I paid 17 and change out the door. I never put any of the stage kits on there are wanted to, but I did a bunch of gauges to it. boost/vac you have to do that cuz it was supercharged oil temp,oil pressure in a voltmeter. Fastest I had it was about 135 + and it was out of RPMs probably at 140 or 142. I remember on the form I used to be on somebody dynoed it has about 201/202 horsepower and 195 pound-feet of torque so it was underrated from the factory. only reason I don't have it today is because somebody hit in the parking lot and ran. I was a truck driver at the time wasn't driving it so I put it on a liability. Never again. I have a car with 325,000 on it I still have it on full coverage all because of that hit and run with that Ion.
Hit and runs are (usually) covered with just liability. Mine was when my redline got hit in a parking lot. It's run under "uninsured motorist coverage" in my state which is included in minimum coverage.
Make a video on the GM ev1, the real forgotten GM car
I saw a nice little SRT4 yesterday. I've got a 300 SRT8 but I want it's little brother too.
Don't forget about the HHR SS. Same chassis. Same engine, brakes, PCM , suspension, wheels, etc, etc.. it's a sleeper .
That's a lot of shit for 30 horsepower... 42lb injectors, ported heads, 3 inch pulley, intake manifold spacer and intake
That is a lot of bolt ons for 30 hp. My civic picked up 30 with a header/cat delete and a tune lol.
This video was a little miss informing. I have an ion redline. It comes with 205hp stock but with a pully, injectors, and a tune it will put the car at 246-ish hp. ZZPerformance sells a full kit for 400 dollars.
This guy is kinda slow he's just looking for a lane, speaking on a platform, not all that informative, no GM fanboy is a real car guy lol maybe the carbureted ones were better? All the ones he reviews are shit
Michael Risner it’ll still lose
@@DR.P3RKY That's pretty cool, it just seemed like such a small return on investment. I'm no expert but on my '98 Mustang GT a performance improved intake manifold results in a solid increase of 30 horsepower. Chris fix even did a video on a car just like mine. No need to change injectors, no modifying heads etc