Update: Savage Feast will give you almost 5% secondary stat depending on the spec you are eating it in. (Frost gives haste, Blood gives crit) Unholy: PoP UF when you're about to reach melee range of the boss, before the 2x FS. Also, make sure you only use SR at 1 rune, that way you will keep 3 recharging. For Unholy AOE you can also try the Class ring (the more targets you have, the further ahead of CH it pulls) Frost: With the BoS build your CD usage should be the following: ERW > PoF > BoS, and this way you should also stagger your CH use until the end of your PoF when it has ramped to its max Str bonus.
If you get bored give this a try and see if I lost my mind again, or I simply suck...lol - crit to ~40%, and haste least 25%(then savage feast)+runic attenuation Burst remains vulgar, and sustained damage is also pretty good on single target boss.
Hello i simed my character as an unholy DK and crit/versa sim higher than mastery / haste to be honest i do not get it why this is true i can guess only because strength has such high value as a stat ? Moreover, i would like to ask when we have 2 festering wounds up on a target is it worth bursting 1 of them or cast festering strike ?
Sims will vary character to character, depending on what items you have. As of the wounds question, it doesn't matter. Overall it will be the same damage. Only reason to just burst the wounds is if the target is about to die
I just cant decide between DK and warrior they both look so good. I am mostly DPS and in this point of view I would put war slightly ahead but I also like to casually tank m+ dungeons between 15-20. And blood is just looking so much better than prot =(. Would like to hear others opinions what would you pick in my case. Also do you think blizz will rework prot warrior in 8.1?
Prot saw a lot of changes, so the possibility of a reword is lower than other classes. Tbh, it comes down to playstyle when you're making a choice, so I suggest playing both War and DK and see what you like better Warrior might be better in raiding (historically), but like you said, blood will still be good in m+
I found this channel google frost and unholy dk dps. I'm new to melee dps, I suck at it but i'm gonna keep trying. Is there a mod that allows you to keep better track of runes???
Okay thanks. I think everyone is pretty much messed up right now. I wanted to get my dk up. But, i'm so mad at it right now. Thank you for the reply. I was told to go unholy.
Breath with Ring and convergance is fun to play but you need some rng with the belt and you could actually get a 50 second breath the cooldowns line up kinda (maybe you have to wait a bit for good convergance proccs on the second ERW) but for a m+ fun build its kinda good, and the talent is 2 1 2 2 2 1 3
Pray RNG before you try it and don't be greedy with the second ERW if you use it extends the time of the first one and you will probably not going to look like a clown when you drop breath and still have 12 seconds of free stats.
here type these into your chat and youll see the healing and damage numbers /console floatingCombatTextCombatHealing 1 /console floatingCombatTextCombatDamage 1
For unholy why sephez as the second legendary for single target? What about if your not interrupting a boss. What is a better leggo then? Also when should you use unholy frenzy? At the beginning?
Sephuz sims the highest rn because of the stats mostly, even if you can't proc it. UF after outbreak when you're in melee range of the boss, or after the 1st FS.
IMO id rather have all will serve than what frost dks have frozen pulse is like all will server + the demon hunter demon blades talent combine it encourages you to basically sit there with nothing to do
I bought a Race Change when they were on sale, and I'm holding on to it in case I need to swap. Will possibly go Troll for early xpack. Not entirely sure yet
The BE racial is so underwhelming to me to me it's not even worth looking pretty anymore. I made a undead DK. I would much rather have a cc break and cannibalism. Plus now I will be truly one with undeath. Thoughts?
@Rive It does affect our dps (or rotation) a tiny bit. Every blood elf dps was using arcane torrent in their rotation for the gain of power per class. Using a global on such a tiny gain of RP isn't as impactful as it was. For example, demon hunters only use arcane torrent at 3 seconds before the pull because it will still gain fury and not waste a global during combat rotation. Unfortunately, using BoS sometines we will have no choice if we want to keep BoS rolling as long as possible.
This version of breath is actually better than in the past imo. You ave time on ti will be around 20 seconds, so you're not super punished by mechanics
I bought my PC a few years ago for like $500, and slowly upgraded the parts in it as I had the money. RN with everything it has in it, probably around $800
If you're shopping in the US I recommend waiting for Black Friday/Cyber monday for great deals, but there are decent ones from time to time on other websites. As for the pc I suggest at least 8 gb of ram, for processor AMD Ryzen 5 or 7 tends to be much cheaper than Intel i7, as for video card you don't need anything crazy for wow, since your processor will do most of the work. I personally still use an old Geforce 1060 with 3gb Vram and I get good FPS, but I suggest getting at least a 1070 or 1080 if you don't want to upgrade in the near future. The rest doesn't matter all that much, although I like having an SSD in my computer, makes everything start-up faster.
Ryan Vernon THANK YOU! The dk period is broken. I was never good with unholy but still won duels. But i could win nearly any duel with frost or blood. Now i lose against shamans and rogues:/ and everything else. But dk are suppose to eat rogues but they ruined the class!!!
Don't expect this build to last into actual BFA. We are using super weird talent combos mostly because of the legos we have, and the fact that tuning is a joke rn
what? hardly anything changed to frost dks in rpepatch. and by the way you main a class not a spec. if you say you main a sin gle spec for 5 expansions straight it means youre a filthy casual
They ruined every spec of dk. It better be good after pre patch cause dk use to he my main... And i want it to remain my main but they ruined it. I cant kill worth sht now. I can get killrd against a rogue and shaman now. Thats just sad. Shamans suck and dk are suppose to eat rogues lol
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Thank you soooo much for this! A very good starting point in trying to figure and feel out what I like better for bfa!
Hyper is my favorite DK on youtube. These videos are so easy to follow. THx man.
Thanks for the vid brother! Saved this one to favorites so I can reference it later tonight.
Thx you for this video man and respect that you stayed in middle not to prefer wich one is good
thanks for a video! i want to learn to play as unholy dk and this really helped me
Thank you Hyper, great work as always! Stay awesome!
Great video, switching from dk to dh this expansion, wish me good fortune 😂
Update: Savage Feast will give you almost 5% secondary stat depending on the spec you are eating it in. (Frost gives haste, Blood gives crit)
Unholy: PoP UF when you're about to reach melee range of the boss, before the 2x FS. Also, make sure you only use SR at 1 rune, that way you will keep 3 recharging.
For Unholy AOE you can also try the Class ring (the more targets you have, the further ahead of CH it pulls)
Frost: With the BoS build your CD usage should be the following: ERW > PoF > BoS, and this way you should also stagger your CH use until the end of your PoF when it has ramped to its max Str bonus.
what does Promises do
Reduces the cost of your BoS, so you can have insane uptime
hey you got a list of your addons?
tinyurl.com/hyperionbfa
Please make an updated video once BfA drops. Great video and thanks for really explaining in depth talents and rotation.
Will definitely make a more in depth version once BFA launches, because this video will be irrelevant by that time
Thanks for the info and the help! + 1 subscriber
Very to the point and not super opinionated. Great vid.
i got so mad seeing you having the mythic argus cythe xD nice vid bro you're a legend
I got it on the last week before the pre-patch lol
Hyperion Gaming ofc you did lol! i didnt even get the normal one feelsbadman
If you get bored give this a try and see if I lost my mind again, or I simply suck...lol
- crit to ~40%, and haste least 25%(then savage feast)+runic attenuation
Burst remains vulgar, and sustained damage is also pretty good on single target boss.
Haste has atrocious scaling rn. I try to stay below 20%. As far as the rest goes, yea I stack crit rn
This is good , here’s a sub 😊.
how do you make your ilvl display detailed like that?
I use an addon called Deja Character Stats
this bos and frostscythe rotation is exactly same as what i do on antoran high command myhtic, i like it
Yeah, same as we used to do on dogs as well if you stacked them
hey dude, nice guide. How did you add the timer to the runes class bar?
My runes are WeakAuras, not ElvUI
I’ll be mainging DK in bfa for first time. Should be awesome !
Hope you like it :) DK is a great class
devon lee no. They ruined in pre patch at least...
Yep, UH feels so starving atm.
Hey Hyperion can you write me both opening spell to do with unholy single and aoe, I have difficulty to understand english thank you
I pinned the frost opener in the comments. For unholy, on the side of the screen when I do the opener you can see it exactly above my damage meter
If you equip cold heart and take the talent the damage of both get cut in half.
This is incorrect. I tested it, and having just one is the same damage as having both. The damage of the item is slightly higher than the talent
Hey, on Unholy DK, do you recommend Sephuz even if we can't trigger it?
Yes I do, it sims above the others even if you don't proc it.
Great video. What is the name of those name plates you're using?
They are just modified ElvUI
Hello i simed my character as an unholy DK and crit/versa sim higher than mastery / haste to be honest i do not get it why this is true i can guess only because strength has such high value as a stat ?
Moreover, i would like to ask when we have 2 festering wounds up on a target is it worth bursting 1 of them or cast festering strike ?
Sims will vary character to character, depending on what items you have.
As of the wounds question, it doesn't matter. Overall it will be the same damage. Only reason to just burst the wounds is if the target is about to die
Nice video :D
I just cant decide between DK and warrior they both look so good. I am mostly DPS and in this point of view I would put war slightly ahead but I also like to casually tank m+ dungeons between 15-20. And blood is just looking so much better than prot =(. Would like to hear others opinions what would you pick in my case. Also do you think blizz will rework prot warrior in 8.1?
Prot saw a lot of changes, so the possibility of a reword is lower than other classes. Tbh, it comes down to playstyle when you're making a choice, so I suggest playing both War and DK and see what you like better
Warrior might be better in raiding (historically), but like you said, blood will still be good in m+
How do i get ur Elvui import string as well weak a's? i checked the Patron page didnt see anything
Here are all the imports: tinyurl.com/hyperion29
There is also a video with the instructions called BFA UI
Thank you!
I found this channel google frost and unholy dk dps. I'm new to melee dps, I suck at it but i'm gonna keep trying. Is there a mod that allows you to keep better track of runes???
I use WeakAuras. But even the default ElvUI ones are pretty solid
Okay thanks. I think everyone is pretty much messed up right now. I wanted to get my dk up. But, i'm so mad at it right now. Thank you for the reply. I was told to go unholy.
You can play whatever you want. Both are doing about equal rn, with frost being slightly better for top end raiding.
Thank you...;)
Hey Hiper. We need some update about the ui elve and wago... its still working ?
Yeah they are still working. I updated the strings today fix some small issues
What addon are you using to show your runes and runic power? Thanks for the video
Runes and RP are WeakAuras
i just tried wrists and its awesome with bursting sores. BS will be go-to spec in BfA for aoe i assume
Yeah for dungeons I assume it will be the go-to
Anyway you can link your weakauras?
tinyurl.com/hyperionbfa - all the import links can be found there
What addons are you using?
ElvUI, WA2, and Details are the 3 major ones
Breath with Ring and convergance is fun to play but you need some rng with the belt and you could actually get a 50 second breath the cooldowns line up kinda (maybe you have to wait a bit for good convergance proccs on the second ERW) but for a m+ fun build its kinda good, and the talent is 2 1 2 2 2 1 3
Will definitely give it a try to see how it plays
Pray RNG before you try it and don't be greedy with the second ERW if you use it extends the time of the first one and you will probably not going to look like a clown when you drop breath and still have 12 seconds of free stats.
I for some reason can’t get floating combat text. Driving me absolutely crazy.
AdvancedInterfaceOptions addon has pretty good customization for it
here type these into your chat and youll see the healing and damage numbers
/console floatingCombatTextCombatHealing 1
/console floatingCombatTextCombatDamage 1
All my one shots and all my Hungering Rune Weapon kills are gone now wtf Blizz, I mean at least shit on rogues too.
For unholy why sephez as the second legendary for single target? What about if your not interrupting a boss. What is a better leggo then? Also when should you use unholy frenzy? At the beginning?
Sephuz sims the highest rn because of the stats mostly, even if you can't proc it.
UF after outbreak when you're in melee range of the boss, or after the 1st FS.
I think this has been fixed now. No longer works.
Andrew McTeir what has been fixed?
What are all of the addons you use?
ElvUI and Weakaruas are my main UI addons
looks good. you should upload it so we can use it.
I like how they acknowledged that All will serve was a shit talent and they would replace it - yet 8.0 launches and All will serve is still there :D
Yeah, similar how they told us that the WW animation is a "placeholder" OMEGALUL
IMO id rather have all will serve than what frost dks have frozen pulse is like all will server + the demon hunter demon blades talent combine it encourages you to basically sit there with nothing to do
Hey dude, are you gonna stay with blood elf or planning a race change after AT nerf?
Gabar War Arcane Torrent nerf doesn't affect your DPS in PvE, so probably not.
Rive it does not but looking at troll and orc racials feelslike it does
I bought a Race Change when they were on sale, and I'm holding on to it in case I need to swap. Will possibly go Troll for early xpack. Not entirely sure yet
The BE racial is so underwhelming to me to me it's not even worth looking pretty anymore. I made a undead DK. I would much rather have a cc break and cannibalism. Plus now I will be truly one with undeath. Thoughts?
@Rive It does affect our dps (or rotation) a tiny bit. Every blood elf dps was using arcane torrent in their rotation for the gain of power per class. Using a global on such a tiny gain of RP isn't as impactful as it was. For example, demon hunters only use arcane torrent at 3 seconds before the pull because it will still gain fury and not waste a global during combat rotation. Unfortunately, using BoS sometines we will have no choice if we want to keep BoS rolling as long as possible.
Its breath necessary? I hate it
Justin d For now, because currently it's damage is broken.
This version of breath is actually better than in the past imo. You ave time on ti will be around 20 seconds, so you're not super punished by mechanics
How much did your computer cost??
I bought my PC a few years ago for like $500, and slowly upgraded the parts in it as I had the money.
RN with everything it has in it, probably around $800
Hyperion Gaming nice! I need to get a new one to play, but I have a limited budget. Would you recommend any particular pc?
If you're shopping in the US I recommend waiting for Black Friday/Cyber monday for great deals, but there are decent ones from time to time on other websites.
As for the pc I suggest at least 8 gb of ram, for processor AMD Ryzen 5 or 7 tends to be much cheaper than Intel i7, as for video card you don't need anything crazy for wow, since your processor will do most of the work. I personally still use an old Geforce 1060 with 3gb Vram and I get good FPS, but I suggest getting at least a 1070 or 1080 if you don't want to upgrade in the near future. The rest doesn't matter all that much, although I like having an SSD in my computer, makes everything start-up faster.
Hyperion Gaming awesome, thx man!
That little bit of mustache you missed shaving is making my brain explode
Didn't miss it , looks weird because of the light since I have blond/brown facial hair LMFAO
So in aoe fights with frost dk u only use scythe and not obliterate?
Correct, unless you're running BoS and are RP starved (in danger of your BoS falling off)
My english is really bad, opening frost pls
RW > 2x Oblit > ERW > PoF > BoS > press your buttons (CH at the end of PoF)
My eyes bleed when you waste wounds
Can you pls make a video for your wa an elvui for bfa can you pls also post both strings nice video go on dude .
I made one a while back, and all the strings are up to date. It's called BFA Ultimate UI
PVP GUIDE NEXT MY DUDE!!! :P
I've thought about it, but if I do pvp guides I gotta push glad at least. Not gonna make a guide if I don't really know what I'm talking about
Frost DK’s are ruined now. I don’t like this shit at all, and I say this with a heavy heart because I’ve mained a frost dk since LK.
Ryan Vernon THANK YOU! The dk period is broken. I was never good with unholy but still won duels. But i could win nearly any duel with frost or blood. Now i lose against shamans and rogues:/ and everything else. But dk are suppose to eat rogues but they ruined the class!!!
Don't expect this build to last into actual BFA. We are using super weird talent combos mostly because of the legos we have, and the fact that tuning is a joke rn
what? hardly anything changed to frost dks in rpepatch. and by the way you main a class not a spec. if you say you main a sin gle spec for 5 expansions straight it means youre a filthy casual
And beig casual is wrong? Let the people play what they want.
Ki co for real.
Would be better to have SR as an execute ability once again.
I miss that :/
You have something on your chin
They ruined every spec of dk. It better be good after pre patch cause dk use to he my main... And i want it to remain my main but they ruined it. I cant kill worth sht now. I can get killrd against a rogue and shaman now. Thats just sad. Shamans suck and dk are suppose to eat rogues lol
Assa rogues are insanely overtuned rn. I wouldn't worry about it
What about the helmet in M+? Isnt it genius to have the reduced D&D cooldown?
Helm might be decent, but I haven't tried it. Pretty sure on large # of targets ring becomes better tho