I think you got a very fine violin. The one piece back is prbably worth at least a thousand dollars. There rare because the wood must be thoroughly dry to prvent cracking as it ages. Watch it very carefully and place a tangerine peel in the case. This will keep the case and violin hydrated. If you dont know the aging specifications of wood it is safe to assume the wood may.be green and it.may crack near the f holes. Thats why.I recomend placing a tangerine peel into the violin case. When the peel molds or becomes dry throw.it out and replace with new fresh tangerine peel. I would continue this practice the first ten years that you own the instrument . Afterward the wood should be fairly stabilized and the pitch and sap evaporated. You have a very nice violin for the.money. good job. It sounds decent. Play it often to season the wood and get a hygrometer to measure relative humidity. Ideally 45 to 60 percent relative humidity is just fine. If it gets wet a clean dry pillow case will absorb excess moisture. The big issue is keeping it in that range. I would play it every day and master the many different ways to tune it. Aubert bridges are usually good but you may find an even better bridge. The best wood is 300 years old from bosnia herzogovina. If your bridge saggs replace it with a better quality wood. Enjoy your new violin.😅
Chinese violin looks way nicer then the older violin. Sound wise, pretty similar, it's 99% skill of player and 1% the instrument and good player can make almost any instrument sound good.
Totally agree. I've been hunting for a violin and too scared to order from eBay without trying. I preferred the second one too, had a more mellow, deeper sound.
When I heard Fiddlerman's Chinese violins it blew me away that they was built in China and cheap price. But sounded double and triple the asking price. I think he jacked the prices up now because of how good they sounded but they were inexpensive.
the more expensive violin definitely has a lot more of a richer tone to it with greater depth. Although for the price the cheap violin does sound nice.
Violins at 10 thousands of dollar sound better than violins at few hundreds. However, it is not true that a violin at 11 thousand dollars sound better than the violin of 10 thousand dollars. In this case, you lost a thousand dollars - the money that can buy 2 good violins at 500 dollars each.
The first thing I said was the more expensive violin had a richer sound. I really am not impressed with the copy Strad, as it just doesn't look quite right to me. Just cannot pin why I feel that way.
I bought a £150 violin in 2010 because I didn't want to travel and busk with my 200 year old antique violin (a gift valued at around £1000) - It looks a little cheap on close inspection but sounds very good for the price, specially now that it's been played in and settled a bit - I took a chance on a £60 chinese IPE bow recently on auction and that was well worth it too... ua-cam.com/video/-hkNmve-JBM/v-deo.html
I actually played one when they first came out, about 1981or so,,I liked the sound and manageability,, also it's true strads are smaller it is also true yours sounds mellower, that is due to the fact that musical instruments especially Wood has to be played everything so often that includes the ones on display in museums,enjoy bro.
Can I ask you, What do you have to say about your "Antonio Stradivari copy" after two years? is it worth? I share the idea having a replica of an Antonio Stradivari is nice, but how good it is, and is it really a measurement replica? The price is very tempting and I believe you according your description the sound is stable. I would like to thank you in advance for the INFO.
Rubner Geared Tuners should help keep the instrument in tune better plus you can eliminate fine Tuners from the Tailpiece so the top will vibrate more freely
Actually, I've kinda revised my opinion of this violin. After a few months playing and 'adjusting' the finish by thinning down the over-applied varnish with alcohol (meths), it sounds a whole lot better - a good second violin. Quite an acceptable sound for the money I'd say. 'E' string and 'A' string much nicer in tone.
That's good. Stradivarius designed his violins back when concert pitch was A=427 Hz or something like that, and today A=440 Hz. So if he came back to life today, he would need to make his violins a little smaller to sound right.
Just a tip In violin care, be sure to wipe your strings and fingerboard and between the bridge and fingerboard with a microfibre rag to protect your varnish and improve tonal quality.
There's no "standard" violin measurements for any size stringed instrument, fractional or full size. Also, there's no standard pattern that covers every Stradivarius copy. Most of the old Italian instruments have been cut down or were built for specific patrons. A guy who plays the violin as well as you do knows this.
I have a strad German copy and about 110 years old but is, copy of strad 1715 I just fell in love with it . Your copy sounds amazing totally amazing for the price. Ps I love the cheap case too :)
There are youtube videos comparing Stradivarius violins with other cheaper violins. I don't know what the fuss is about. It's just a violin, better violin to be sure, but nothing amazing. It's just brand label that has rich people bidding it up like fine art.
Feng-Violin-Shops is a master luthier and 5th place in China last year. Her violins are extraordinary violins, violas. Old violin luthier sell 80 year old Romanian maple and spruce wood on eBay. Pro Master Violin 1716 and 1715 Stradivari violins. Perfect violins. No joke.
More time and precision on the tables graduations make for a more mature and projected sound on the romanian. I have a cheap chinese violin that is good. Needs a better setup and some synthethic gut strings. I want a romanian. Your playing makes them both sound good.
The new fiddle sounds fine, but I must say the older fiddle sounds better - the sound of the older one has more body and texture. The lower notes of the new fiddle have a bit of a buzz to them - loose bass bar? - where the older fiddle sounds clean. Maybe that's all personal preference? Anyway, glad you found a fiddle you like for a low price like that. ^_^
The new violin is pretty , but the old one sounds greater ;) i own one that is around 80 years old now, i think its Norwegian, but not realy sure. Best regards from Norway
I bought 12 of the violins made in China,no label. Having seen thousands of violins(I am a Dealer) the wood alone would cost that much. As China's economy goes up so does the labor rate.German Violins with this high quality from 30-60 years ago would go for so much more. I think they are all under priced and they are selling in volume with reduced prices which will undoubtedly go up.
One question, this violín worthit? It really have a good sound? Because for testing a violín you have to hear it alive and Must compare with a good Quality one
Could you tell me the name of the seller cause I want one!!! That thing sounds amazing for the price. I'd really appreciate if you could tell me also the model so I can buy the same one. It has a beautiful finish Thank you in advance for your time
Hi :) I love the collor on the chinese one....but the sound on your old violin was way better :) Myself i own a ..about...80 year old violin, i think its made in my country, but not sure...i am a noob anyway, so i havent played it yet, i dont know how to... Best regards from Norway
I like the sound of the Chinese strad copy in the video, I'm not crazy about the sound of the strings on it they almost sound like factory stainless steel strings. Unfortunately, these strings are mono-tone, hollow, colorless sounding. I actually love the sound of the string on the Romanian violin as well as the violin it's self much better color off the strings, better quality sound by far off the strings. A set of D'addario's or Dominant strings will improve the sound quality of the strings on the Chinese violin. I actually have a Cecilio CVN-200 series, love the sound, great look as nice as the Chinese strad copy in the video and these kits include: Two brazil wood, Mongolian horse hair bows, chromatic tuner and metronome, two bridges, Rosin cake, solid maple back, sides and spruce top with rosewood tail piece and tension pegs including fine tuners. Comes with two sets of Cecilio factory strings, solid foam cloth case with violin cover, all for ninety-nine dollars plus tax and shipping- both are a great buy.
It may seem sacrelegious, to say that it's the design, materials dedication and workmanship that are important. I guess that the early Stradivarius violins also went through tweaks due to some material stability problems. Bless all good violin makers.
Thanks Taylor for a really helpful video. I, too, won one of these violin-shop violins a few days ago for about the same amount and am waiting anxiously to see if I've wasted my money! You have reassured me. I'm surprised it has an Aubert bridge - they're one of the best makes. I think your European violin has a very slightly warmer tone but the Chinese Strad copy will be good enough for me. Once again, many thanks for your generous sharing of your thoughts. Have a wonderful New Year! from Kit in France
Is this violin worth it? Should someone use it as their regulator violin yes or no? Can it take on regular playing for more than one year? Is the sound even good after a year?
Doubt it's rosewood. But there are a lot of topical woods that are almost as nice. Granadillo for example. I used it for replacement handles on my antique planes. Consider there may be so much variation among units from this manufacturer that this may not be a representative sample. Another one off the line may not be nearly as nice. Or it might. He's happy so call it a win.
@UCQFUt_0q3piEMaxJtOsz0fQ It's a bit smaller than the other one. It said 4/4 size on eBay, but it's probably a 7/8 Size which is a rather interesting size.
The problem with chinese violin (or vast majority of them) is the quality of the wood and quality of the deep tones and especialy the whole G string. Chinese wood resonates different from European one. Chinese wood produces narrow, high pitch, shiny and "brass" sound. European wood produces wide, warm and "human voice like" sound. It doesn't mean that Chinese wood is inferior. But violin was designed for european wood and Chinese copied it for Chinese wood without changes - and it doesn't work the best way. You have to compensate it by setup and by the string selection. Try to avoid shiny and bright strings and choose warm and low tension strings instead - but this is the second problem. Vast majority of Chinese violin come with cheap metal core strings, which are very bright, so the probem is doubled. I don't know any chinese violin coming with high end synthetic core strings, because they tends to be as expensive as the whole Chinese violin :D :D :D
There's very high quality Chinese violins that have won international luthier competitions. Fiddlershop sells them, I think they're in the $2000 to $15,000 range. As for the wood, I have several violins of Chinese, US, and Rumanian pedigree, and by moving around the bridge and soundpost, you can make the violin as bright or as dark, as loud or as soft as you want. Even people hearing my carbon fiber Glasser violin think its a dark wood sound just by moving the bridge forward. Personally, I do find differences between violins when playing them, but their sound is all the place. I think just having a bridge with good feet goes a long way to making that "booming" sound that you need. AV Daniel has excellent tutorials on how to change your violin's sound.
I bought 3 of these chinese ebay violins about 4 years ago so I could keep the best one and sell the others - I've kept two of them 'cos I still can't part with either one - the other one is with a relative abroad and I still am not sure I want to sell it...
I actually just won a Antonius Stradivarius violin on an Ebay auction. I paid like $83 plus the shipping. I'll find out soon if it's the original. But... I'm not sure if it's the real deal lol.
Besides, only around 500 violins manufactured by the Stradivari family actually exist. The chances of even coming across one of the originals on eBay are slim to none, and you'd then be looking at blowing at least a good 2-3 million USD to purchase it at auction. Probably the reason why nobody was bidding against you.
The back looks like nice quality flamed Maple but for that price it's cheap (possibly Maple) that has the flaming printed on then varnished. You get what you pay for. I would only use a cheap Chinese violin as firewood and even then it would probably poison you with the weird chemicals they use!
These are just the strings that were on it when it arrived. I had a friend of mine fix the violin new bridge, sound post and he evened out the fingerboard and fixed the pegs so they fit tight.
Im actually selling it if your interested I had a new bridge and sound post put in and the fingerboard evened out. Or if you know someone who is I could put in on ebay private auction.
I got this guy:ua-cam.com/video/AbXROs6MWeo/v-deo.html. It's a Yinfente 5 String Acoustic-Electric Cello which is currently in the shop getting a new sound post because the one that it came with wasn't properly cut.
i just received my violin from them today and the fingerboard is completely detached,it was demoralizing.Hopefully they stick to there word and fix up properly instead of using cheap glue.Other than that the violin looked good minus the clunky chin rest.
It looks like it has real flame on the video, look carefully from 00:29 to 00:31. When he moves the violin, I can see the little shinning effects and the 3d effects.
More on the story. So...I hear from the guys in China. They have received the violin back from France and did I want it to be sent back to me? If I did then would I pay the re-delivery charges? What!!! It's your fault not mine. I said I wouldn't pay and they said OK they would pay so I assume it is now on its way to me the second time. Apologies to all for this rant - it's turning into a blog! I'll let you know when (if) it arrives. Watch this space......
Well, yeah. Finally arrived. The finish is not so good as in the photos but I don't care so much about that - poor varnish application. The sound post was loose but I fixed it in properly. The factory strings aren't much good so I put some Thomastik Dominant (standard) strings on plus I fitted on fine tuners as the pegs were slipping a bit. Sounds OK, a bit tinny on the A and the E is not as mellow as I'd like for old timey playing. However, it's not too bad, still not as good as some of my old German violins. I'd get an older fiddle from ebay or somewhere if I were you and get a luthier to fix it up for you, you'll get a better sound in the end I'm sure. Bon courage!
Kit Wells late to the party but. How is it holding up? Did you try it with any decent bows? Did you experiment with rosin? With some more tailored strings? Did you get the sound post in a good position so it sounds stronger?
thanks for posting this video. I have been thinking about purchasing a violin from this site for a while. The violin I'm looking at from violin shops is in the 1000 dollar range. Considering yours sounds good at $152.50 I imaging the 1000 dollar violin must be quite nice. A few questions. Is it smaller in length or is the neck just thinner? I have a old German fiddle that has a similar looking neck. Also how is the wood? and is the finger board made of ebony or is it just painted black?
TheHappynot I personally wouldn't pay $1000 for a Chinese violin I have been trail and error with violin since I started playing 19 months ago I have several family members that play violin but I had to learn on my own my likes and dislikes. I purchased a Chinese violin that cost me $1600 first one I bought didn't know much and I basically got dooped into buying it. This $152 dollar violin is way better than the one that cost me $1600 it's better quality one piece back which in itself is Awsome. The pegs chin rest and tailpiece are boxwood beautiful looking. The fingerboard is ebony like I said in the video black was rubbing off on my fingers from the fingerboard but I cleaned it and hasn't had any issues the seller really nice guy assured me that it was ebony and said he had no problem giving my money back if I wasn't satisfied I will defiantly buy another one again from him. The violin is a couple centimeters smaller than my other width wise and the neck is thinner width wise and I actually like it. I'm 6'1 and have good size hands and it feels great. Hope it helps you out thanks for watching.
TheHappynot If you want to spend that much money spend a little more and get a nice European instrument if not I would recommend this price range. Because violin usually with age become more valuable or at least hold their value.
TheHappynot I would but I'm saying I wouldn't spend $1000 dollars on a Chinese violin when I only paid $150 and I'm completely satisfied. There's no need to spend that much I think but than again it's not my money. But you never know it could turn out to be an Awsome instrument but I personally feel that if your gunna spend a lot of money on any acoustic instrument it's better to play on the instrument in person so you can see if you like it or not because it's an investment.
@5:30 Chinese $152 (2nd time @8:28)
@6:20 European $900
It's a new violin. It will have to be played in before it starts to smooth out in tone. It will improve the more it's played.
may i ask where you bought it?
The sound from such a cheap violin. I have to say. You are quite lucky. The worth and value of that violin is in the 500+ range.
I think you got a very fine violin. The one piece back is prbably worth at least a thousand dollars. There rare because the wood must be thoroughly dry to prvent cracking as it ages. Watch it very carefully and place a tangerine peel in the case. This will keep the case and violin hydrated. If you dont know the aging specifications of wood it is safe to assume the wood may.be green and it.may crack near the f holes. Thats why.I recomend placing a tangerine peel into the violin case. When the peel molds or becomes dry throw.it out and replace with new fresh tangerine peel. I would continue this practice the first ten years that you own the instrument . Afterward the wood should be fairly stabilized and the pitch and sap evaporated. You have a very nice violin for the.money. good job. It sounds decent. Play it often to season the wood and get a hygrometer to measure relative humidity. Ideally 45 to 60 percent relative humidity is just fine. If it gets wet a clean dry pillow case will absorb excess moisture. The big issue is keeping it in that range. I would play it every day and master the many different ways to tune it. Aubert bridges are usually good but you may find an even better bridge. The best wood is 300 years old from bosnia herzogovina. If your bridge saggs replace it with a better quality wood. Enjoy your new violin.😅
Chinese violin looks way nicer then the older violin. Sound wise, pretty similar, it's 99% skill of player and 1% the instrument and good player can make almost any instrument sound good.
the 1000$ violin is more full, more dynamic, and far more clean. the highs can be shrill on the chinese, harsher, and its very mid ranged.
Why do you put the dollar sign behind the amount?
Too bright(good for $150 though) The second violin had to me a better tone and clearer intonation.
Totally agree. I've been hunting for a violin and too scared to order from eBay without trying. I preferred the second one too, had a more mellow, deeper sound.
When I heard Fiddlerman's Chinese violins it blew me away that they was built in China and cheap price. But sounded double and triple the asking price. I think he jacked the prices up now because of how good they sounded but they were inexpensive.
the more expensive violin definitely has a lot more of a richer tone to it with greater depth. Although for the price the cheap violin does sound nice.
Yes, the more expensive one does aouns better. But it's too early for an accurate comparison, since the new one hasn't been tweaked and adjusted yet.
Violins at 10 thousands of dollar sound better than violins at few hundreds.
However, it is not true that a violin at 11 thousand dollars sound better than the violin of 10 thousand dollars.
In this case, you lost a thousand dollars - the money that can buy 2 good violins at 500 dollars each.
The first thing I said was the more expensive violin had a richer sound. I really am not impressed with the copy Strad, as it just doesn't look quite right to me. Just cannot pin why I feel that way.
@@airplanegirl01 That's a definition of having a biased mind.
I bought a £150 violin in 2010 because I didn't want to travel and busk with my 200 year old antique violin (a gift valued at around £1000) - It looks a little cheap on close inspection but sounds very good for the price, specially now that it's been played in and settled a bit - I took a chance on a £60 chinese IPE bow recently on auction and that was well worth it too...
ua-cam.com/video/-hkNmve-JBM/v-deo.html
I love how you busted out playing Serenata Huasteca!...Mariachi? I am. Thanks for the share!
You play well. Thank you for sharing. I am surprised at how nice the Chinese copy sounds. I didn't think it would sound good at all.
I actually played one when they first came out, about 1981or so,,I liked the sound and manageability,, also it's true strads are smaller it is also true yours sounds mellower, that is due to the fact that musical instruments especially Wood has to be played everything so often that includes the ones on display in museums,enjoy bro.
Can I ask you, What do you have to say about your "Antonio Stradivari copy" after two years? is it worth? I share the idea having a replica of an Antonio Stradivari is nice, but how good it is, and is it really a measurement replica? The price is very tempting and I believe you according your description the sound is stable. I would like to thank you in advance for the INFO.
Taylor Fuentes It's actually a very affordable instrument that works. It's a bit smaller probably cause the dimensions are a bit off but it works.
A set of D'addario Helicore Strings would help & Wittner Fine tune pegs would help it hold tune better.
The fittings are Purple Sandalwood
ITS A BEAUTY OH MY
Rubner Geared Tuners should help keep the instrument in tune better plus you can eliminate fine Tuners from the Tailpiece so the top will vibrate more freely
Actually, I've kinda revised my opinion of this violin. After a few months playing and 'adjusting' the finish by thinning down the over-applied varnish with alcohol (meths), it sounds a whole lot better - a good second violin. Quite an acceptable sound for the money I'd say. 'E' string and 'A' string much nicer in tone.
has anyone a link to buy this violin?
hello, can you send me link of the violin? I want to find it in the shop)
@thehappynot
It is also a couple centimeters shorter.
So is it a 4/4 violin?
TheHappynot
Yea 4/4 size
URL of the copies of Stradivari violins WebsiteURL: stores.ebay.com/Feng-violin-shops
No selling, no selling. I posted the url where I got it. I enjoy the violin it was a good deal.
That's good. Stradivarius designed his violins back when concert pitch was A=427 Hz or something like that, and today A=440 Hz. So if he came back to life today, he would need to make his violins a little smaller to sound right.
Just a tip In violin care, be sure to wipe your strings and fingerboard and between the bridge and fingerboard with a microfibre rag to protect your varnish and improve tonal quality.
There's no "standard" violin measurements for any size stringed instrument, fractional or full size. Also, there's no standard pattern that covers every Stradivarius copy. Most of the old Italian instruments have been cut down or were built for specific patrons.
A guy who plays the violin as well as you do knows this.
Weren't all the old ones built for Baroque music?
These violins are coppied from specifc stradivari violins. At least allegedly they are.
Daddario Helicore Strings will make bowing easier as well as using a CodaBow Joule.
I have a strad German copy and about 110 years old but is, copy of strad 1715 I just fell in love with it . Your copy sounds amazing totally amazing for the price. Ps I love the cheap case too :)
Stradavari was known for making instruments that have a special sound.
There are youtube videos comparing Stradivarius violins with other cheaper violins. I don't know what the fuss is about. It's just a violin, better violin to be sure, but nothing amazing. It's just brand label that has rich people bidding it up like fine art.
Well, the price-performance ratio is quite stunning
You play very well,indeed :) Nice violins too :) Salud!
Feng-Violin-Shops is a master luthier and 5th place in China last year. Her violins are extraordinary violins, violas. Old violin luthier sell 80 year old Romanian maple and spruce wood on eBay. Pro Master Violin 1716 and 1715 Stradivari violins. Perfect violins. No joke.
The projection from the cheaper violin is way superior. Good job. Give us an update in a few months.
More time and precision on the tables graduations make for a more mature and projected sound on the romanian.
I have a cheap chinese violin that is good. Needs a better setup and some synthethic gut strings.
I want a romanian.
Your playing makes them both sound good.
The new fiddle sounds fine, but I must say the older fiddle sounds better - the sound of the older one has more body and texture. The lower notes of the new fiddle have a bit of a buzz to them - loose bass bar? - where the older fiddle sounds clean.
Maybe that's all personal preference?
Anyway, glad you found a fiddle you like for a low price like that. ^_^
The new violin is pretty , but the old one sounds greater ;) i own one that is around 80 years old now, i think its Norwegian, but not realy sure.
Best regards from Norway
wow the more expensive one sounds so much better !
Really, really cool violin!!! Can send me the link to the page that was on your iPad?
I bought 12 of the violins made in China,no label. Having seen thousands of violins(I am a Dealer) the wood alone would cost that much. As China's economy goes up so does the labor rate.German Violins with this high quality from 30-60 years ago would go for so much more. I think they are all under priced and they are selling in volume with reduced prices which will undoubtedly go up.
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One question, this violín worthit? It really have a good sound? Because for testing a violín you have to hear it alive and Must compare with a good Quality one
5:10 The Nut slot on the High E String was cut too low so it had to be raised up higher.
Could you tell me the name of the seller cause I want one!!! That thing sounds amazing for the price. I'd really appreciate if you could tell me also the model so I can buy the same one. It has a beautiful finish
Thank you in advance for your time
You should get some geared tuners cause it'll hold tune better
Taylor Fuentes It sings very well in tune.
lo compraste por eBay o directamente en la webpage del vendedor? y cual es la dirección de internet ? me interesa un violín así ..saludos
Hi :)
I love the collor on the chinese one....but the sound on your old violin was way better :)
Myself i own a ..about...80 year old violin, i think its made in my country, but not sure...i am a noob anyway, so i havent played it yet, i dont know how to...
Best regards from Norway
You should probably consider using less rosin and cleaning off your violin more often. If the rosin gets caked on the wood it can mess with your tone
I actually prefer the sound of the first violin. Though I'm not a violin player.
CNC routing has revolutionized the quality you get for your money.
I like the sound of the Chinese strad copy in the video, I'm not crazy about the sound of the strings on it they almost sound like factory stainless steel strings. Unfortunately, these strings are mono-tone, hollow, colorless sounding. I actually love the sound of the string on the Romanian violin as well as the violin it's self much better color off the strings, better quality sound by far off the strings. A set of D'addario's or Dominant strings will improve the sound quality of the strings on the Chinese violin. I actually have a Cecilio CVN-200 series, love the sound, great look as nice as the Chinese strad copy in the video and these kits include: Two brazil wood, Mongolian horse hair bows, chromatic tuner and metronome, two bridges, Rosin cake, solid maple back, sides and spruce top with rosewood tail piece and tension pegs including fine tuners. Comes with two sets of Cecilio factory strings, solid foam cloth case with violin cover, all for ninety-nine dollars plus tax and shipping- both are a great buy.
YOU VIOLIN ROCK WITH YOUR INFORMATION,, THANK YOU GOT A VIOLIN TAKING A CLASS IN THE SPRING OF 2017
It may seem sacrelegious, to say that it's the design, materials dedication and workmanship that are important.
I guess that the early Stradivarius violins also went through tweaks due to some material stability problems.
Bless all good violin makers.
Very impressive playing after 19 months.
May I know the brand's name ?
Thanks Taylor for a really helpful video. I, too, won one of these violin-shop violins a few days ago for about the same amount and am waiting anxiously to see if I've wasted my money! You have reassured me. I'm surprised it has an Aubert bridge - they're one of the best makes. I think your European violin has a very slightly warmer tone but the Chinese Strad copy will be good enough for me. Once again, many thanks for your generous sharing of your thoughts. Have a wonderful New Year! from Kit in France
Did it arrive yet?
Is this violin worth it? Should someone use it as their regulator violin yes or no? Can it take on regular playing for more than one year? Is the sound even good after a year?
Doubt it's rosewood. But there are a lot of topical woods that are almost as nice. Granadillo for example. I used it for replacement handles on my antique planes.
Consider there may be so much variation among units from this manufacturer that this may not be a representative sample. Another one off the line may not be nearly as nice. Or it might. He's happy so call it a win.
I still like the way you play. Thank you.
Because it sounds like a Stradivarius as being a copy, it really takes us back to the days of the most famous instrument maker.
They quoted me $800 for this same violin on that site 🥺
Looks like the bridge needs tilted back a little from the back side it needs the be 90° angle
What piece was that you were playing?
@UCQFUt_0q3piEMaxJtOsz0fQ
It's not a Bad Sounding Violin because these Chinese made Violins are really beautiful.
Hi buddy, from which seller did you buy this violin?
@UCQFUt_0q3piEMaxJtOsz0fQ
It's a bit smaller than the other one. It said 4/4 size on eBay, but it's probably a 7/8 Size which is a rather interesting size.
The problem with chinese violin (or vast majority of them) is the quality of the wood and quality of the deep tones and especialy the whole G string.
Chinese wood resonates different from European one. Chinese wood produces narrow, high pitch, shiny and "brass" sound. European wood produces wide, warm and "human voice like" sound.
It doesn't mean that Chinese wood is inferior. But violin was designed for european wood and Chinese copied it for Chinese wood without changes - and it doesn't work the best way.
You have to compensate it by setup and by the string selection. Try to avoid shiny and bright strings and choose warm and low tension strings instead - but this is the second problem.
Vast majority of Chinese violin come with cheap metal core strings, which are very bright, so the probem is doubled. I don't know any chinese violin coming with high end synthetic core strings, because they tends to be as expensive as the whole Chinese violin :D :D :D
There's very high quality Chinese violins that have won international luthier competitions. Fiddlershop sells them, I think they're in the $2000 to $15,000 range.
As for the wood, I have several violins of Chinese, US, and Rumanian pedigree, and by moving around the bridge and soundpost, you can make the violin as bright or as dark, as loud or as soft as you want. Even people hearing my carbon fiber Glasser violin think its a dark wood sound just by moving the bridge forward.
Personally, I do find differences between violins when playing them, but their sound is all the place. I think just having a bridge with good feet goes a long way to making that "booming" sound that you need.
AV Daniel has excellent tutorials on how to change your violin's sound.
generally stradivari violins were smaller than our normal violins
Dear Taylor, thank you, I'm a beginner violinist I still do not know where to buy a violin. thank you
+Olga Pedan your welcome. Its hard when your beginning and dont know much alot of the times people take advantage Ive been there good luck.
Thank you for the review. Not able to find the shop or the how to find where to purchase it
would be really useful if you posted some info about how to purchase it
I bought 3 of these chinese ebay violins about 4 years ago so I could keep the best one and sell the others - I've kept two of them 'cos I still can't part with either one - the other one is with a relative abroad and I still am not sure I want to sell it...
Hey what do you think of "Christina" violins??
I actually just won a Antonius Stradivarius violin on an Ebay auction. I paid like $83 plus the shipping. I'll find out soon if it's the original. But... I'm not sure if it's the real deal lol.
Besides, only around 500 violins manufactured by the Stradivari family actually exist. The chances of even coming across one of the originals on eBay are slim to none, and you'd then be looking at blowing at least a good 2-3 million USD to purchase it at auction. Probably the reason why nobody was bidding against you.
Your old one is def better than the chinese violin!
In bass tonality its very easy to hear difference ... in extrem treble on thinest chord just import the finger of man !!!
The back looks like nice quality flamed Maple but for that price it's cheap (possibly Maple) that has the flaming printed on then varnished. You get what you pay for. I would only use a cheap Chinese violin as firewood and even then it would probably poison you with the weird chemicals they use!
Nice purchase, great playing
thank you for the review! What strings are you using on that?
These are just the strings that were on it when it arrived. I had a friend of mine fix the violin new bridge, sound post and he evened out the fingerboard and fixed the pegs so they fit tight.
Thank you again. Your playing was beautiful
Im actually selling it if your interested I had a new bridge and sound post put in and the fingerboard evened out. Or if you know someone who is I could put in on ebay private auction.
I got this guy:ua-cam.com/video/AbXROs6MWeo/v-deo.html. It's a Yinfente 5 String Acoustic-Electric Cello which is currently in the shop getting a new sound post because the one that it came with wasn't properly cut.
im an ignorant in music.
but im not deaf.
the sound of the european is way better. less estrident and more sharp, clean
i just received my violin from them today and the fingerboard is completely detached,it was demoralizing.Hopefully they stick to there word and fix up properly instead of using cheap glue.Other than that the violin looked good minus the clunky chin rest.
sound nice! звук понравился, сочный и звонкий, а если струны поменять - вообще будет оркестровой!
Is there chance that they are using veneers to replicate flamed wood? Not uncommon on cheaper electric guitars.
The 1,000 dollar one is much better to my ear. Much better tone....
I hAve a Vif 200. Love it. Less than $150.
can you remember if the flame on the back had a 3d effect when moved side to side? if it didn't, it was painted on, which is what im curious to know
I dont remember sorry
It looks like it has real flame on the video, look carefully from 00:29 to 00:31. When he moves the violin, I can see the little shinning effects and the 3d effects.
What label did you ask for?
this was a very helpful discussion. Thank you
More on the story. So...I hear from the guys in China. They have received the violin back from France and did I want it to be sent back to me? If I did then would I pay the re-delivery charges? What!!! It's your fault not mine. I said I wouldn't pay and they said OK they would pay so I assume it is now on its way to me the second time. Apologies to all for this rant - it's turning into a blog! I'll let you know when (if) it arrives. Watch this space......
could you post the link to the violin website you showed on your i pad?
Hello teylor una pregunta aun esta en venta el violin soy de veracruz mexico y me gustaria saber si se podra enviar hasta este lugar saludos ....
what kind of glue did he use? i doubt it's hide glue.
Well, yeah. Finally arrived. The finish is not so good as in the photos but I don't care so much about that - poor varnish application. The sound post was loose but I fixed it in properly. The factory strings aren't much good so I put some Thomastik Dominant (standard) strings on plus I fitted on fine tuners as the pegs were slipping a bit. Sounds OK, a bit tinny on the A and the E is not as mellow as I'd like for old timey playing. However, it's not too bad, still not as good as some of my old German violins. I'd get an older fiddle from ebay or somewhere if I were you and get a luthier to fix it up for you, you'll get a better sound in the end I'm sure. Bon courage!
Kit Wells late to the party but. How is it holding up? Did you try it with any decent bows? Did you experiment with rosin? With some more tailored strings? Did you get the sound post in a good position so it sounds stronger?
How can he put a label in it without breaking the violin open?
This is as good as it can get - Violins dont get better when 100 years old....
Can you link the shop url please from where you bought it?
Stradivaris ARE smaller
Thanks for sharing
thanks for posting this video. I have been thinking about purchasing a violin from this site for a while. The violin I'm looking at from violin shops is in the 1000 dollar range. Considering yours sounds good at $152.50 I imaging the 1000 dollar violin must be quite nice. A few questions. Is it smaller in length or is the neck just thinner? I have a old German fiddle that has a similar looking neck. Also how is the wood? and is the finger board made of ebony or is it just painted black?
TheHappynot
I personally wouldn't pay $1000 for a Chinese violin I have been trail and error with violin since I started playing 19 months ago I have several family members that play violin but I had to learn on my own my likes and dislikes. I purchased a Chinese violin that cost me $1600 first one I bought didn't know much and I basically got dooped into buying it. This $152 dollar violin is way better than the one that cost me $1600 it's better quality one piece back which in itself is Awsome. The pegs chin rest and tailpiece are boxwood beautiful looking. The fingerboard is ebony like I said in the video black was rubbing off on my fingers from the fingerboard but I cleaned it and hasn't had any issues the seller really nice guy assured me that it was ebony and said he had no problem giving my money back if I wasn't satisfied I will defiantly buy another one again from him. The violin is a couple centimeters smaller than my other width wise and the neck is thinner width wise and I actually like it. I'm 6'1 and have good size hands and it feels great. Hope it helps you out thanks for watching.
TheHappynot
If you want to spend that much money spend a little more and get a nice European instrument if not I would recommend this price range. Because violin usually with age become more valuable or at least hold their value.
Taylor Fuentes I already have a German violin and am looking for a secondary fiddle. Wouldn't you recommend buying from this seller?
TheHappynot
I would but I'm saying I wouldn't spend $1000 dollars on a Chinese violin when I only paid $150 and I'm completely satisfied. There's no need to spend that much I think but than again it's not my money. But you never know it could turn out to be an Awsome instrument but I personally feel that if your gunna spend a lot of money on any acoustic instrument it's better to play on the instrument in person so you can see if you like it or not because it's an investment.
Nice vid also great violin
Song is very correct.... my 2000 $ chinese viola is EXACTLY SAME LEVEL THAN A 15 000 € EUROPEAN INSTRUM6ENT ....
can u write down the webpage of violin shops please?
Πως μπορω να αποκτησω εναν βιολιν Stradivarius 152$
Είναι copy
Such a cheap musical instrument can sound amazing.
How is the Vif violin holding up?