IndyCar on Steroids: CART's Handford Device Era
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- In 1998, a redesigned rear wing for CART increased lead changes by 400%, three times as many cars finished on the lead lap, and races ended in last-lap photo finishes. Cars that went 250 mph were too fast, and the solution was spectacular.
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There's nothing wrong with using brock or your own voice instead of using some crappy ai
Usually the channel owner writes the scripts, and I think Beard just dubs over the videos. But this video sounds like AI was used to write the script or the tone is different at least.
uh oh the Incels are here. they are getting triggered by a man’s voice
He's liked being in the background, and I can respect that. At least he used a generic text to speech system rather than one that copied people's voices like Bob Jenkins or something.
Slapshoes would be a great narrator if Brock is unavailable.
They should have got David Land
Need Brock. The AI voice isn't doing it. And i mean that with love. Been a long time fan here
Bring back Brock
And because of the split, virtually no one outside of hardcore racing fans saw this happen.
Great video as always, but Brock... no offense, but the a.i. voice sucks
Brock doesn’t own this channel
@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT ahhh okay. Thanks for the info
Last one sounded like AI too
@@jebediahgentry7029 you’re welcome
My dad took us to the 1998 Michigan 500. That race was absolutely breathtaking.
Without Brock this video just didnt hit the same
What happened to Brock?
I'd help record anything Brock can't fit in his schedule. The Hanford deserves the care of a recording.
Very interesting. The Hanford device demonstrates how "dirty air" and "slipstreaming" are exactly the same phenomenon: low pressure air behind the leading car. It helps the car behind while on the straits and hinders it during cornering.
Saw you upload some stuff on Twitter, was hoping for this! Thanks! I do think current Indycars could do this, we just need to go back to Pocono and Michigan.
Ai voice is a huge mistake
Ironic that ‘nascarman’ produces some of the best historical CART/IndyCar content out there. Thanks again for another well done piece. A wonderful trip down memory lane. CART/Indycar has a rich history that should be reflected on and remembered.
Got one minute in and stopped. I'll watch this video when you reupload it with a real human doing the voice over.
Ah man, this AIish narration is really throwing me off of this vid. Feels so lifeless. Without Brock Beard, I'd still much rather hear your narration rather than this.
Bring back Michigan Speedway for an instant classic
The France family isn’t interested in promoting a series they don’t own at their tracks
Yes please bring back Michigan Speedway for a 500 mile race 🏁 😊
@@gofastandwynn Its true, and Indycar isn't pulling the crowd it needs.
@@gofastandwynnGreedy bastards.
Totally agreed. What a family of parasites!
It would be awesome to see the spouse a Hanford Device again!
I often watch nascarman videos as soon as I see them released, then go back and watch them multiple times over. If the AI narration is here to stay, I can say without a doubt that I've watched my last nascarman video. Plenty of other motorsports creators out there who are willing to put in the required effort for worthwhile content. Be well.
I was at several of the CART race weekends at Fontana in the late 90s and early 2000s. I was also at the last Indy Car race there in 2015 ("The Greatest Race That Nobody Saw"), and the decision to move that race from the season finale at night, to a day race in the middle of summer still leaves me scratching my head, partly because I got so badly burned . 😉
everybody made their opinion known on the AI voice, i hope you listen
otherwise everyone will walk away, i know i will
Nice video of the golden era in American open wheel racing. But we needs the Brock Beards voice. This AI voice sounds awful
3 minutes in. I’m turning off.
You might have spent ages writing and researching it, then sorry.
But the AI voice makes the whole video feel halfassed.
Finally a proper long video about this device. Have read about this but never seen a proper video of it
I feel blessed to have witnessed the Hardford era in 2000-2001.
Great video, horrible ai voice. If you need someone for vo, let me know!
fucking AI narration come on man
I love being able to watch these videos, but the lifeless AI can't replicate the feeling or occasional humorous tone that has been in videos before. (Edit to add: Apparently you used a site to improve the quality? I don't entirely hear the original, I only really hear the AI part, and I'm sure the original quality is more than okay.) Just because you _can_ use AI/AI enhancing doesn't mean you _should._ If you're not able to do the voiceover yourself, I'm sure someone like Slapshoes would absolutely love to do it for you. Heck, even I'd do it, but I'm just another guy. Just something that doesn't need an external website where they do who-knows-what with your voice after you've uploaded it.
If the quality is anything to go by, if you did enhance it, I'm sure the original is more than fine. Way better than a webcam mic from 2010 that's halfway across the room.
Thanks God, I saw it live on TV. End of the 90s was such a great time. These cars were amazing. I hated IRL.
Wtf wheres brock? Downvoted
RIP Greg Moore. A true Canadian talent taken far too soon. This is my favorite era and series of racing ever. Cars were fast, no traction control, not even paddle shift gearboxes. Noting even comes close to that smell of methanol on the streets of Toronto in my book. The AI voice sucks ass though.
I dont know how your own voice sounds, but i have no doubt it would be better than this. I am only at 3 minutes into the video and already i noticed something was wrong with the beginning of every sentence. I thought it was a mic issue at first, but it seems you used AI to try to enhance it.
The results are unfortunately not very good. It hurts to hear on every sentence, and I could not imagine standing for a whole 40 minutes.
Hope you find a better solution in the future, love your work and take care.
AI voiceover is a killer, can't and won't finish the video.
Great video as always but I really hope you can take some criticism and take that AI-ish voice out. We know Brock has his own channel but it's fine to have him narrate every few months or so
Hey Dale Jr if you’re out there. Please get this as a weekly series on iRacing
iR-01 is basically a CART car now
@@robertlowry9what?
It’s naturally aspirated and has a totally different design!
What happened to our beloved nascarman history guy, i aint watching this
I'd watch this, but not with the AI voiceover.
Great subject but I just can't with the horrible Ai voice. Finally had to stop about half way, just couldn't take it anymore.
You really should have collaborated with brock or david land. Both are very enthusiastic about indycar and its a shame to see the community not have the continued collaboration. David land could have brought some insight from watching that time period. The community is quite small but you should know better. Don't skimp on quality ever, take your time with these projects.
I always love the content but please don’t use AI text to speech. This is good content that is hard to listen to.
please bring your voice back daddy :3
At least Brock can pronounce the freaking names! Rage!
Man, your voice on its own sounds good. There was no need for any AI enhancement. I'd be down to hear this video with that raw voiceover tbh
i couldve voiced this for you :(
Where is brock?
I don't know why Brock isn't being used to narrate but AI isn't yet at the point where it's ready for making decent videos.
I like how at 6:17 you can hear the engine rpms increase dramatically when a car gets in front of him
That was because he lifted for the corner..your comment doesn't make sense. You would gain rpm's and go faster due to the hole being punched in the air in front of them.
@@kyledorrell2013 That's what I mean. The engine rpms wouldn't increase that quickly if he were by himself. That's why I said "when a car gets in front of him" because he's not punching said hole through the air anymore. Somebody else is doing it for him. Also, he wouldn't be just getting back into the gas on the exit of turn 4 at Michigan. That would be a surefire way to lose a race. You can also physically see when the car moves in front of him, besides the engine rpm's increasing dramatically, he also picks up a few mph almost instantly.
What's with the weird audio stretching whenever you start talking?
It’s AI
@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Thought it might be. That’s super lame, he normally does narration himself
@@OliverWolf621 Brock Beard does narrations.
nascarman is a different person who owns this channel
What I found funny about it was when the rear bumpers of the og DW12 created the very same effect on ovals, the same people who loves to their hearts this Handford era of racing, was the same ones criticizing IndyCar like crybabies for "no one wants to lead now", "saving fuel racing" blah blah blah. Trackforum was an unbelievable toxic cave around ~2012-2015.
Funny and hypocrite, but we're talking about the Indycar fanbase, this should be expected I think.
Boooooooo don't use AI!
I’ll narrate your videos 🤷🏻♂️
Ya blew it on this one by choosing AI. its still Go Real Or Go Home
The AI voice isn't it man.
When IndyCar was actually good.
I always love your content and I understand you want to put out as much of it as quickly as possible but, as a fan of your work, please pay someone to read your scripts. The AI voice is taking me out of the video and I'm only 3 minutes in. I'd hate to lose interest in the stories you tell because of a faulty fake voice.
Yeah I’ll be honest this is the worst video you’ve put out, no disrespect but the AI isn’t good, if it can’t be Brock or you I’m not a fan
To point out the 2000 Michigan 500 was greatly helped by Tiger Woods winning the British Open on ABC being the lead in…
500 miles proves they stayed because the racing was good
@@Nnubbs Actually if you know about how ratings work, not really. The ratings are given as the average. So if you had 8 million people watching in the 1st 1/4 hour and then 1 million for the rest of the race the rating will say about 2 million people watched
@@gofastandwynn let me ask you a question. Do you actually believe this is how it split?
No way. Golf sucks
@@joelbrooks3198 This was at the height to Tiger mania
I agree with the others, the audio makes the video. Some people literally record powerpoint but use a real voice and get a lot of views.
The most exciting period ever of CART racing.
I know people have said it, but this ai makes it almost unwatchable. Bring back Brock. Or hell I'll do it. Anything but ai.
Since you opened with baseball, I now want to go track down that clip and se just how often baseball and CART and IRL and other auto racing crossed paths, and to check how many times ESPN and ABC cut in to a Sosa/McGwire at bat given how big of a deal the HR chase was. It got people excited on a national level about baseball post 1994 and may well have saved the sport. Some 26 years later, people are excited about baseball, and it'major news a no hitter just got thrown. Would not have got that ten years ago
Without a real human narration the video feels lifeless
You aint fooling anyone. There is no soul behind Ai. No passion.
AI bot makes what should be a great video borderline unwatchable.
Was told many years ago by a former PacWest mechanic that they'd gear for 240-250 in the draft with the device on, and 230-240 without it. And to think in 97 CART went hang on, we ar too quick. But, to be fair we got some of the best racing on big ovals tinged with some of the worst incidents though. But I do wonder how the modern car would work with such a device and how it'd affect the racing though
EDIT: Man, Paul and Parker were a great duo and Parker was so easy to listen to and so well spoken. Jury is out on if he was more eloquent than Sam Posey mind, but....it's close. 2000 was, arguably, the best year for the Hanford Device. No huge or fatal crashes, and the drivers were able to run side by side but not tied up in a pack a la IRL or NASCAR, they were able to move and get out of danger though if needed
Wtf is this commentary
Idk why ppl are complaining Brock isn't the one narrating. If y'all came for Brock, then go watch his videos. This channel is about stories in American motorsports, not the narrator telling us said stories.
The IRL engines were not smaller than the CART engines. The original engines were actually a larger displacement (4.0L vs 2.65L) but were slower because they weren't turbocharged.
This sounds like Chris Fowler is reading this.
The AI voice isn't horrible, but...those mispronunciations give it away. I winced.
What's making the voiceover sounds so robotic. Like as if it were AI narrarated.
It is.
The first race of the Hanford device at Michigan was the most exciting race I have ever seen. However I'm sure it was crazy for the drivers.
Just shows you the level of sophistication in American open wheel racing. Slap a plank on the back of the rear wing, call it 'device' and bang. INNOVATION! Utterly ridiculous.
I'm sure you have your reasons, but the AI voice is very jarring
Yeah I couldn't do it. It seems like a REAL cool topic but I cant do nearly 32min of AI voice.
Great video and absolutely amazing history. The crowds these races garnered never cease to amaze me as well.
Will always wonder what IF Greg Moore didnt pass away in 1999
this has potential to be a great video if the a.i. voice is done with
So breathtaking and so insanely dangerous.
I appreciate that this video (inadvertently?) questions if "exciting" automatically equals "good" - something I feel American racing has forever struggled with.
Man those cars looked awesome
this voice isnt just worse than brock, its straight up bad, please give brock back
why have you used an ai voice for this? it was painfully obvious and made the video worse
Hated the narration.
Aside from that, this video was great. Sad how IndyCar left these massive ovals for more road and street courses. Now we only have Indianapolis as the only big track on here, and the only ovals we have are that one, Iowa, Milwaukee, and Nashville SS (which I'll be going to in September). We need more of these ovals in IndyCar. Bring back Texas, Michigan, Chicago, and if they make safety modifications, Pocono. This is why I love watching old IndyCar races.
CART smokes IRL. Too bad they were too expensive.
If you ever need any voiceover work or anything let me know man i’d be more than glad to help!
does anyone know what was the fastest cart/indycar on long ovals?
2001 Penske which at Autoclub set the closed circuit speed record that's still in place.
heard the ai voice and clicked "never show me this channel again"
Have y'all maybe considered that Brock Beard isn't available to do the narrations? We don't know what the setup is, give the guy a break. This is still a great video.
Bring back Indycar at Michigan!
Man I love your vids usually but this AI is total ass bro
I wish I was alive to see this era (I wasn’t born until 2003) also is that A.I. voicing? I’m sorry but it just doesn’t work
Get rid of this ai
I miss hansford racing. It got me hooked back in the day
Unfortunately this is the turbulence that claimed Greg Moore.
Really interesting topic but couldnt get through it cause the AI voice sucks
I dont like AI dubbs on any videos. The irregular pacing and clunky pronounciation takes all my attention.
At first, I thought the voice might be Slapshoes...
It's like reverse DRS lol
I'd prefer Brock Beard narrating
I can’t believe I have to state a correction as it relates to the first generation IRL engine. IRL increased displacement, to 4.0 liters, but were normally aspirated. My ‘85 Dodge Omni with a non-existent exhaust system sounded better those turds. I miss those 2.65 liter turbos.
Also, anyone else notice the date on Greg Moore quote, 10/31/98.
I was going to comment the same thing that initial IRL engines were larger (4.0L NA V8 vs. 2.65L turbo V8), not smaller, but decided to check if anyone else said this first. 👍🏼
RIP, Greg. #RedGlovesRule
This is around the 1:30 mark for others to note.