The Spotlight goes inside McNeil Island: Home to Washington's most violent sexual predators
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- Опубліковано 12 бер 2023
- McNeil Island, the most infamous six miles in Washington and home to the state's most violent sexual predators. This week on The Spotlight, we take you behind the barbed wire and closed doors to get a look at what is really happening on this isolated island facility.
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Violent predators do not belong in any community!
Tell that to the Liberals they're going to keep trying to let these people out. None of these people come back into society and don't reoffend
@@andrewbochicchio2232THAT’S IT!!
It’s the demonrats that WANT THEM to be released because THEY KNOW it will happen again.
#pureevil 👹🤡🤡🤡
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This is the same governor who almost released the Green River killer during "covid"!
@@allencolvin4320 💯💯
I can’t understand even being willing to take a chance that they won’t reoffend, at the expense of children, or others.This is deeply disturbing and disgusting
I agree if they trust they won't re-offend, then you can rent out a room in your house. Or next door, then they can be monitored and get all the sympathy they don't deserve.
Exactly. Why even take the chance.
Yeah well then again you know everything nowadays just seems to be a Bizarro world
These people have already served their time and without this treatment facility would already be walking freely in society. Washington seems to be doing everything they can to protect their citizens by at least attempting to get these criminals mental health treatment. I don't know what more can be done unless those convicted of this type of crime received life sentences (which I'm not necessarily opposed to myself; I'm just pointing out that this is not currently the case).
They will reoffend
I'm sorry my daughter was sexually assaulted when she was 15 and we are still dealing with the courts but as the family we have gone through so much she's tried to commit suicide numerous times, every time the case gets brought up We are 20 steps backwards.. these predators DO NOT know what they have done to the families they HAVE HURT!!
I'm still fighting for my daughter and still fighting for fighting to save her..
I PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST OVER YOUR FAMILY FOR HELP AND HEALING AND PROTECTION.
That's so heartbreaking!
I'm so sorry that your daughter & your family are going thur such trauma, I pray that y'all find peace & healing.
Prayers; never give up, it takes time and time heals.💖🙏
She has to stop being a victim/survivor. She has to move on. It can’t be undone. Don’t let him take the future too.
@@kumstayne4884 👈🤔
What's up with that name??
My heart hurts for the victim's and their families. Just keep them on the island. If they have all their needs met as a human...seems reasonable to me. We need legislation to change how we hold these broken monsters accountable. No amount of therapy will fix them.
In Germany they have the Dukenfeild program for petafyles & Germany has significantly low malestation rate compated to America the guy they let out in America that said he was going to reoffend they should have let him out but this program proves that people can rehabilitate I mean I'm a victim I was sexually molested and I'd rather people get help and forgiving because people become destructive again if they're not forgiven I can understand not wanting to trust them again it is hard to trust again maybe they can do cats scans to see if the empathy part of their brain has grown cuz there's cognitive empathy building therapy and but also an adult people fly over to Germany for the programming so I think they need to do a lot more to prove that they're not going to offend again and they shouldn't be around kids for certain amount of years improve themselves that they're not going to repeat their mistakes 80% of the boys we're sexually harassing girls including music they listen to that said it was okay to do that it was sexist religions cuz they're really bad influences on men and boys especially Grand Theft Auto video games and need better presidents that aren't pedophiles got to get rid of capitalism to that lowers empathy and people and politicians sexist religions is one of the leading causes of domestic violence and sex crimes in America I think we need to focus more on getting rid of the bad influences in the Netherlands they got rid of the death penalty in the middle of the 1800's and it's because they have significantly less crying because their Rehabilitation programs are amazing and people are forgiving same with Sweden Belgium New Zealand very low crime there get me wrong I mean they need long punishment in jail but I actually knew a guy in a shelter I lived in when I was waiting to get on Section 8 cuz I have a bone marrow condition megablast anemia and I collapsed and couldn't move cuz the bus doesn't go down the road I needed them to go down and I'm on Paratransit disabled buzz and usually it stops in front of building a man but some roads they just won't go down and I was in front of an area where drug dealers sell drugs and they kidnap women and the guy I met at the shelter he was really old by the time he got out of jail and he went in jail when he was 20 and he killed a bunch of officers during a bank robbery any raping women and he picked me up he ripped the stitches helping me and carried me to this shelter and he didn't try to harass me or sexually assault me back to the South cuz he couldn't find housing up here cuz of his record begin with a friend that he knew and so and I did research that some people are molesters because they have no empathy and they just need cognitive empathy building others become molesters are pedophiles because they can't get along with adults so they go for someone younger and some of them commit suicide because they don't like themselves and then there's some that become letters 50% because they've been molested themselves not everybody who is molested becomes a molester everybody deals with trauma differently what happens as a they develop hypersexuality but they don't realize what it is and the sex drive in blagada gland is also the gland for flight or fight response and when the trauma happened and they want to feel control and their sex drive turns on at the same time when they remember what happened to them and they may go into psychosis or partial cut psychosis and repeat the offense and then there's molesters that have been influenced by like what I was talking about before they don't develop their empathy part of their brain very much because of the bad influences of abuse p*** and sexist religions and likes Christianity and strip clubs and toxic media and two boys 8 and 10 played Grand Theft Auto video game or prostitutes are killed and prostituted and they went out and murdered and raped a little girl on the playground after playing the video game I mean so that's another cause and then there's more but I didn't go through all of them to read I guess I just wanted to understand why the person that hurt me hurt me and cuz I have to forgive in order to not attract toxic people in my life and I don't want to stick toxic validation from my effusive of relatives anymore and I want to have hope that they'll change and in my life again and get the people family member that is a rapist in molester in our family cuz he hasn't gotten better and I'll never leave the kid alone with him even if he did get better and was legally allowed to be around kids but there's a cause and it can be fixed they're not just stuck that way according to psychological studies
Only GOD can fix them.
@@lightwarrior432 that's right, they can make their peace- then the death penalty! These crimes are worse than murder! They've deflowered and scarred their victims for life!
You are wrong, there are treatments that work for (some) individuals. You cannot lump every-single induvial of any group together.
Wonder how many taxpayer dollars go into the extensive treatment given these offenders? Compare that amount to the money spent on the children and women who have been grievously harmed by these offenders?
It's crazy! They have 2 staff members for every offender, that was my first thought. And these are doctors, and social workers, and counselors. I'm sure their salaries aren't on the low end.
Used to be over 150000 per resident back in 2011, I can only imagine now….
They need to make more of these islands and keep them there forever. Seems like they are trying to make the rest of us accept them.
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They our trying to release them and get paid for it. Look into it it we the governed covers the story on this.
@@jo-qp7mz 🤢
How do we make more Islands??? The prisons are over populated and people are NOT going into the job market as corrections officers and prison workers. They are very scarce now a days. What should we do??? The correction officers who work in the prisons can only do so much without help. There is no way to "make" a new island...
They are.
Some people that are pushing these “studies” that say that they are likely to be a fan also claim..
That in their therapy sessions, they should not tell them about crimes they committed so they don’t get more jail time.
We really should have the death penalty for anyone that is a repeat offender. Make it the first offense for crimes against children. And if a victim finds and murders his abuser later in life, it should only be manslaughter.
Nobody deserves to die by the hand of the state. People that commit crimes need help and rehabilitation. Maybe not until normal society but killing people no matter what they did would make the one killing them no better than the offender
You can not cure sex offenders, it's mental illness.....
@@bobbkg762 so mental illness is just uncurable? 🤦♀️ Clearly never struggled with any form of mental illness if you think that
@@lilrae1458 there are some crimes, the worst of the worst, where I believe the death penalty in warranted. For the absolute worst of the worst
@@prancer1803 The way I see it the state should never be responsible for the killing. If the person who was wronged In a situation wants to kill them personally that should be allowed.
If someone's daughter gets killed in that father chooses to kill the murderer he should have that choice but no one else. Sometimes that would end with the criminal dying but there's plenty of people out there who don't have the heart to kill and having the state do that for them is just wrong
CEO can let them
Live next to him then.
He said he’s not worried about any of these offenders.
Yes…he needs to be sexually violated to ‘ get it’ !🤬
Let them move next door to Inslee! He's the one who is promoting these releases!
Him, not worrying about them, is a reason to worry about him..
This is a disaster waiting to be unleashed on society..
🤯more dreamers 😴
Good for them, then take them home and let them babysit your children or grand children..Leave them on the island..
If they pose no threat, why do they need 300 staff for 129 sexual offenders! There is no cure for sexual deviants! Keep them on the gaurded island!
Split shifts. Staff has to go home.
But yes keep them on the island
This is nauseating. They will reoffend. As long as they are a danger to society, they should be behind bars. You want to let them out, then you let them live at your house with your wife and kids and You will be held accountable for their recidivism.
You missed the whole point of this video. Being behind bars won't help them change and become better people. They deserve to get help that they so obviously need. If 10 years down the road after treatment they are released and they don't offend again because they received that help then what's the problem.
This facility isn't releasing people weeks after they get there they are there for years until the staff feels they are ready
@LilRae Like I said, you think they are able to be rehabilitated, invite them to live with you and take responsibility when they reoffend Because They Will, just like a rabid dog.
@@DeAnne1233 it's sad that you think of other humans as a rabid dog. I hope you never experience a mental health crisis because you seem to think people deserve to die rather than receive help.
@@lilrae1458 🤦♀️ okay here’s a much needed FYI for you honey: Literal
*CHILD MOLESTERS* are not put behind bars to “ *change and become better people.* ” They are there to receive punishment & due justice for their horrific crimes. And, of course, to keep them away afrom the vulnerable population they prey upon.
I also think you may be confusing pedophiles with child molesters. Pedophilia is the mental condition, while molesters are the actual offenders. There’s some overlap, but there are plenty of child molesters who don’t even have a compulsion to hurt kids, & are instead just sadistic psychopaths who get off on causing pain & happen to choose to attack children bc they’re easy targets. Treating pedophilia may be helpful, but even when that works, it has very little impact on keeping our kids safe, because so many of these offenders arent pedos in the first place! They’re just pure evil. I say keep ‘em locked up where they belong.
@@g.h.7661 I'm not saying that they shouldn't also do their time for the crimes they have committed but they should also be allowed to get help after prison or in prison if they want it. Being a psychopath is a mental condition that can be helped through therapy and medication. people who have committed crimes likely were never offered or had the opportunity to receive help for their problems.
Throwing people in prison for a set amount of time then releasing them straight back into society isn't going to change anything or help anyone.
Institutions like the one in this video exist as an extra layer to actually rehabilitate people after they have served their time and help them not become repeat offenders.
We can never undo the harm that they have caused but we can help them to not do it again
These offenders should never be released.
IMHO if they won't give out the death penalty to these creeps, especially child rapists, then there should be a shuttle carrying as many as can hold and send them to the farthest reaches of the universe!
I second this
Ukraine
@@lonewolftrucker3955 That's a myth!
On the list of things that need to be done to these predators before they are released, is castration.
Castration doesn't make them incapable of having sex.
With a rusty butter knife, no pain killers.
Sadly this does not stop them from offending. Even if they are chemically castrated they offend. It’s in their brain to want to control, defile innocence. This is why they need to live away from society.
All sex offenders impose a life sentence on their victims. Sex offenders should send a life sentence as well. They should all be isolated from society. Unless there is no tolerance for sex offenders they will continue to reoffend.
kid touchers i agee. but what about men whose animal instincts took over against grown adult women?
@jaden park yes them too. Certain animals need to be caged because they're dangerous.
Yes and no. "Sex offender" unlike, "murderer" or "arsonist" is an umbrealla that encoomposes many-many different types of acts. You're lumping 'peeping toms" in with child molesters.
What a sweetheart that Earl Schriner guy was! After him it's pretty clear on the risks from releasing these guys back on the streets.
💯They are fine right where they are...nuff said.
Does that treatment involve keeping them away from adult sites on the internet? Children? And all temptations? Because that changes once released. Just honest questions.
Surely they don’t give them the temptation…
Oh trust me..They use the internet. They go to stores, churches, movies, etc. There are children everywhere. Some even use the ads in the paper for children's clothing. I'm dead serious. It's evil. Pure evil.
@@katie7748but really?. That bad
I’ve wondered about Washington state sex abuse crime especially close to the Canadian border. In 1973 my father (who had sexually abused)an entire small logging community of young girls. His own daughter from first marriage was abused and almost killed. Her and her mother escaped out the bathroom window while my father with his shot gun was trying to breakdown the door threatening to kill them. He married my mother who had 2 daughters and a son. They were finally taken out of the home after daughters reported to the school numerous times. Physical violence was just a part of the abuse my father enjoyed. My mother was horrifically abused. It unknown if he sexually abused my half brother but always physical abuse. My sister was a baby when the other children were taken out of the home. Did CPS believe that she would be safe??? I was born 4 years later in the late 1960’s. I’m grateful my memories aren’t as vivid as my sister. I was 6 when my father was released from jail(very quick). We had come out of hiding and returned home. My mother was babysitting all the children in the neighborhood due to all married couple had a big event to attend. My father came in and shot my mother then himself. I was told that his plan was to kill myself and my sister. My youngest half sister was 18 years old at the time.::::I’m 6. My father did grow up in boarding and was physical and sexually abused. He was raised in BC Canada. We lived less than an hour from the border. Every weekend parties with lots of men and bad behavior. I always wondered if this sexual predator ring started its planning through the leaders that abused my father.
Good grief. That is horrific. I hope you & your siblings have received all the support you need & that the paedophile ring has been taken down. It’s so sad that there are so many paedophiles in a position of power that protect other predators.
My son in law works there, he is on the fence too about rotating them back into society
Maybe if there is harsher sentencing for these horrific crimes, like the Death Sentence, they will STOP.
This is why a lot of murderers today are feining mental illness. They dont have to go to jail, they go to a facility and get special treatment and go outside and walk in the gardens etc...
How does that stop murderers?
It's a big enough island make them build house on it. Live there and take care of the island
💯💯💯 The only reasonable answer here
Create a new law that a person convicted of sexual crimes be sentenced to life. Keep them on an island away from society. Those psychiatric employees need to be put into schools to help children! These people can't stop their lusts don't ever give them an opportunity to reoffend!
Boy, were those women lying. The, "I don't worrry as a woman." Or the, "it's never even entered into my mind." They must be well paid...to sell their souls.
They clearly haven’t been assaulted.
The sex offenders are behaving good so that they can eventually get released and if they have incident there they won’t get released.
About the three women they interviewed concerning the "dangers of women working around such violent sexual predators"; Every one of those jobs is performed from behind a desk, located well away from the inmates, and where they live. The only "contact" those women have with inmates is if they choose to go behind the gates and move among them.
They're not "inmates". They are "patients" and "residents" who have served their sentences and arw being treated for their
illness(es). You think of them in the never ending punishment mindset and that's a problem itself. Think before you speak.
Fuck the predators, I'm not about to care for the feelings they might have. Their victims living a life sentence and so should the predators.
There is an easier fix for these people that costs less than a dollar...
YEP
I have been to McNeil prison. The "SPECIAL OFFENDER CENTER known as"S.O.C. is a separate part of the Island. I am not a sex offender but my experience with going to prison twice in Wa. I feel like the s.o.'s are treated much more lenient than any of the other prisoners that are serving time. And let's not forget that they commit the most HEINOUS crimes, but they're given better treatment and upon release more resources than any other inmates. I feel because of the nature of their offences they should be punished right along with any other inmates!!! Wa. needs to STOP being so kind to s.o. and actually focus on punishment!!! S.O.'s are statistically the 1st to re-offend because they cannot control their sick desire to CONTROL!
Makes one wonder.
That's because those sex offenders are not in fact serving a prison sentence. They've already done that. They are being involuntarily held there under involuntary civil commitment, which is not a part of criminal law, but rather a civil procedure.
The state has the power under the law to forcibly detain people who are a threat to themselves or others for the purposes of mental health treatment or simply to protect them and the public. Civil commitment doesn't require a criminal conviction or even for a crime to have occurred. It requires only that a court determines, based on a preponderance of the evidence, that the individual is a threat to themselves or others.
Due to these sex offenders having committed violent sex offenses, upon release from prison, they are immediately detained and involuntarily committed in order to protect the public and get them treatment.
Since this is not punishment, but rather treatment, they would be treated far better than prisoners.
Actually s.o’s in general are the least likely to reoffend. That category goes to burglary and drug dealing. For a small portion of sexually deviant people sure they can’t control it. But there’s maybe 100-400 of those in the state… there’s tens of thousands of repeat burglars and drug offenses.
They have more rights than their victims. I speak from experience.
@@detritusofseattle they should never be released.
These predators/pedophiles are right where they belong. Keep them there until they have served their full sentence and have received mental assistance. They need to be monitored even after being released. Trust is earned over time, not over night.
But that's just it: they have already served their sentences and are simply being held under involuntary civil commitment due to being deemed a violent sexual predator.
Treatment is required before they can be released. That's the point of this segment. It takes years of treatment for them to be let out, and even then there's no guarantee.
I'd add that level 3 isn't just pedos. It's also certain types of rapists.
They already served their full sentence before they go to this place. This where they get the help. They are monitored after being released from here. Did you even watch the video?
They have served their full time and are receiving mental health assistance and will be monitored as they transition back into society. So you agree that the system is working as planned?
Too bad not all places are like this. Some can just quietly serve their time without doing any sort of rehab or parole.. free as a bird.
Or in some cases, never earned at all.
This would be a great idea if they never let a sex offender off of the island. Every sex offender had to go there for life
i agree on kid touching freaks being locked up in that island for life. but what about men whose animal instincts took over against grown adult females?
Unless I missed it... Seems like a big oversight to not compare statistics of reoffences after emerging from this facility vs those who emerge straight from non-rehab prisons.
Could be because they can't find any true comparable populations. If all the state violent sexual offenders are going to this commitment facility then there is no control group: all other offenders would be out of state, going to state facilities and participating in state programs that differ from Washington's. It could also be that the amount of people who have transitioned back into society after undergoing treatment is too small to do a statistical analysis.
I agree with you that such a comparison would be helpful and is the only real way to see if this facility's programs are effective.
Man, I feel like every prison should have this level of rehabilitation and reintegration process for habitual offenders of any sort.
Not with every crime. The vast majority of adult sexual offenders never change. It's unwise to risk the lives and mental health of the general public.
The same people willing to pass out second chances to rapist and pedophiles ironically, don't want them in their communities.
@@Narrow-Pather Ok but the majority of people committing armed robbery never change either though. Some rehabilitation couldn't hurt them. Our current prison system only makes things a worse.
or just build more prisons. its safer to keep them locked up than to risk freeing them.
Yes-even if this isn't a prison.
Is there any success stories in this program? Failures? Would of been a good question from the host.
No one wants to know that. They would find out that sex offenders have the lowest recidivism rate of all criminals. They would learn that sex offenders act out on anger not sexual deviancy. Common sense tells us that sex offenses are committed everyday by “upstanding citizens.” I was raped for years by grown women but no one ever talks about women being sex offenders. This witch hunt is a joke and doesn’t protect my family or my children but just costs us millions nationally for constituent appeasement. The answer lies in education and parent responsibility. Not charades
Not much treatment for the victims who are drug addicted and mentally broken 🤬
Just curious, what will you say when a mentally broken victim goes on to harm someone else by victimizing them? Do they then go from being a victim to scum that needs the dearth penalty?
@@rum-ham yes. Sick of that hurt people hurt people bs. Reminds me of that song she talks to angels. She will tell you she is an orphan after you meet her family. Just because they claim mental illness don't mean they should be released into society .it's like a virus that needs to be contained so it don't infect the rest of society
@@rum-ham yep
@@jasonfinch4165 Ok then. At least you're being consistent.
It's an awful lot of consideration, concern, and effort for people who had none of those things for their victims. I have a great idea to make sure they don't continue to victimize people. The only way they get off that island is in a box.
So you'd rather they set them free with zero treatment-because by law their sentence was up (years) before they get sent to then released back to the community? If they weren't sent to the treatment center-post sentence, they'd be in your neighborhood sans any rehab. You may want to rethink your statement?
I agree 👍💯
PLEASE KEEP THEM ALL ON THAT ISLAND 🏝
They should just bomb it
Even pedophiles will tell you they can not be fixed. They have to live with it the rest of their life.
Right. And not every pedophile is a sex offender. Some have morals and refuse to hurt children.
*These are the people that need to be locked up forever, but yet they will want to give me 10 years in jail for drugs but put those rapist and pedophiles in a place like that smh*
Yeah you don’t get what that island is. It’s where they go AFTER they finish prison. And they don’t have a release date.
@@kumstayne4884 no matter what it is would you want a island of rapist and pedophiles next to you? Like really think about that for a second, you have 1000 + rapist and pedophiles down the street from you and your family, how would you feel everyday when you go to work and leave your family at home around shit like that? Do you think all of them will change and not try to escape or be lurking in the night waiting on your child
@@Moellmoell you’re obviously either the victim of a crime or related to one… these weirdos aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. Get out of your feels. These wierdos are locked up indefinitely. And since it’s an island I really don’t care.. they can’t leave
@@Moellmoell let me make it simple. They’re locked up forever just like you asked. AFTER they went to prison too. So they got what you got and many times past that
@@kumstayne4884 they are not locked up for ever smh
I don’t think it’s a good idea to have sexual offenders near women or children. Hello NO
children abusers should be locked away forever. but if victims were grown women, thats just animal instinct. after treatment, they may come back to society only if victims were adult women
This is why is parents MUST take JUSTICE into our own hands...!!
The justice you are talking about is criminal actions and you will be jailed.
@@Nightmarefuel66 are you a parent?? Most likely not. Don't speak on what you don't understand.
@@humbleisme2381They are right, though. If you think with DNA evidence nowadays that you're going to get away with murder, you are sadly mistaken.
If any warden let's them out without proper treatment and they reafend then that warden should be held accountable!!
It is not up the the "warden"-of which there is none. And, they are there FOR treatment. Ergo why would they let an individual go not having done exactly what they are there for???
there is no WARDEN. this is NOT A PRISON> there is only a CEO, and he does not get to make the cal on who stays and who goes. that it done by a judge.
get the sex offender app. Your town will light up like a Christmas tree. They are everywhere
what is it called exactly?
@@jadenpark7943 the offender locator
How many of their victims get even half of this 'special' treatment after they're violated in the worst way?
You think this is "special" treatment? You make it sound nice. And probably every victim of violence has access to treatments
Why are we taking chances with children? These adults have made their choices. They chose not to seek help until they were forced to. Why does society have to suffer to try to reprogram evil individuals?
FOX 13 -- Why are you not asking the most important question regarding how effective this program is? What are the statistics after these guys are released? How many re-offend and return or imprisoned?
They absolutely WILL reoffend, not safe at all…
Absolutely
When I lived in Packwood WA I was always told by the locals that there was town between us and Tacoma (I can’t recall the name) that was also full of sex offenders. This was years ago, so I hope it’s changed/ and or not true.
I'm just going to have to take a wild guess and say absolutely not. This isn't like shoplifting and it's not like breaking into someone's car... It's way worse than home invasion and it's way worse than murder. They need to put these people in jail for life they always reoffend. The government wants to be their chaperone like they're little babies why don't you just keep them in jail
My mother had been treated at the local hospital (per my older sister) for sexual assault so severe she needed surgery. He was allowed to go see my mother and threaten her life in front of the hospital staff. No police that I’m aware of were even notified. She begged my fathers mother for help. Her best friend tried….
Are these animals traumatized for life like their victims, who get a life sentence??? Castrate/Death Sentence for the scumbags!
Thank god we don’t do this. If we did it would only be a matter of time until someone innocent received that punishment
@@kumstayne4884 without evidence give them truth serum and find out the truth, if their innocent they shouldn't have a problem with that. The laws enable these perverts
@@sandradobratz7401 truth serum doesn’t actually work…. Neither do lie detectors. The more you lie and the less of a guilt complex you have the more likely you can lie and get away with it. That’s why neither is admissible in court
@@kumstayne4884 clear evidence is needed for sure
*Pure propaganda.* Sure those female doctors feel safe in that secure facility where the predators have eyes on them 24/7. That's far different than a child waiting for the school bus, or a single female walking home from work.
And why not ask, _"How many predators have been released out of treatment who reoffended?"_ If the answer was zero, they would brag about it, but it was avoided altogether.
I absolutely have no love for people who defend these predators. And what's up with talking about their "trauma"? WTF? That is just wrong, and disgusting. They created victims, they are _not_ victims. They do not deserve freedom.
Agreed!
They also have not addressed the fact that many of them are raping each other, (poetic justice) and have been doing so since they were at Monroe prison. They continued raping each other once moved to A unit on McNeil and still continue once moved to the McNeil Annex(commitment center). The female doctors and other self important staff are delusional. Book smart but common sense and reality stupid. I get it though, no body wants to admit the money spent and years of schooling, not to mention the years spent on the job are complete waste of what might have been an-otherwise potentially fruitful life.
Exactly! I saw a documentary where the sexual predators were interviewed and every one said they cannot be rehabbed but would lie to get out.
Where are the women offenders kept, they never even get mentioned and they usually assault children ????
@@middleclassretiree usually in general population unless they are repeat offenders. Then they MIGHT go to McNeil. I only know of two females that went to McNeil but they didn’t stay all that long.
THE LAW DOESN'T EVEN DO THIS FOR THE VICTIMS OR THERE FAMILY , WE ARE SO UPSIDE DOWN IN THIS.😢
"The law" has nothing to do with victims. "The law" is designed to punish, not help.
There is no cure for a pedophile or sexual predator. They will never change, they'll just become a little wiser. In my opinion.
Throw the key away!🙋
pedophiles i get.but men who did women wrong, thats just animal instinct. after treatments they can come back to society if the victim women were grown adults
Jay, let's get these violent sexual predators to your neighborhood....or that's right you have all the troopers protecting you and your family....no worries to you or your family, just to the rest of us citizens.
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I want the Olympia politicians that feel these violent sexual predators are being misunderstood or mistreated to raise their hand and state "I will volunteer to have them come to my neighborhood". Let's ask Bill Gates, the governor and the Lt governor and the Legislators will you volunteer? I am tired of the poor/middle class being harmed by Olympia Politicians decisions.
Only some reoffend
What about kids rights??
This fails to address the fact that the Governor plans to relocate them from the island to live in facilities located in neighborhoods. His real estate cronies want to develop the last large south sound island.
They did address this by saying there are no plans to close the facility on the island.
They should all just be kept on these type of islands till they pass with no access to internet to prey on kids. Just get a little more freedom after they've finished their prison, and little more after they finish therapy etc, but they should be kept on the island
That's not a prison? It's a treatment facility? That's strange. Too me an island filled with violent sex offenders is called a target for strategic bombing.
hey what about the staff
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Obviously we evacuate them first lmao
Life sentences for repeat sexual assaults/ sexual abuse of a child 1st time life imprisonment. PS these women seem more like enablers
These men can never be trusted. They need trackers on them that people can see on a Gps map so they cannot feel unseen.
Move inslee on the island; these guys don’t change
How dare the people who released this monster when he was telling them what he will do when he gets out !!! They need to be put in prison themselves and sued!!! Shame on them !! They are as guilty as the disgusting monster !!! No excuses. Just common sense !!!!😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 GOD BLESS THE PRECIOUS BABY VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS. 👪😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😂❤❤❤❤
They are only compliant because they are in this setting. No body wants them in their community!
It's been proven that treatment doesn't work. These people cannot be rehabilitated and will always be a danger as long as they are alive.
Look at statistics. If they haven’t reoffended it’s just because they haven’t got caught.
Exactly. The data shows that these programs don't produce outcomes when it comes to decreasing danger to the public.
BINGO
The psych chicks feel safe because they’re not 12yr old little girls
You can trust it, I Don't Trust It!!!
Exactly
This is an incredible mistake. I am 30 years old and went to court at 15 to testify against a level 3 violent sex offender who lived in our neighborhood in a house where he was under supervision when I was 7. He terrorized our neighborhood and acted like he was crippled so that he could chase after his victims. He would wait on our porches or walk into our homes if the doors were unlocked. He was never supervised. We all had to rally up as a neighborhood to try to get him out and into prison after he raped and molested a lot of women in our neighborhood. Years later he raped many more women and was taken to court to send him to Mcneil Island. This guy will do this again and again whenever he gets the chance, as so will every other violent sex offender who has a different brain chemistry than normal humans. We cannot expect them to change! It will be at the demise of the communities they release them too. PLEASE DO NOT THINK VIOLENT SEX OFFENDERS CAN CHANGE AND BE NORMAL HUMANS IN FUNCTIONING COMMUNITIES, THEY CANNOT.
compare this Facility to Handford its danger we can not see
Only on the West Coast can this happen unbelievable.
Untrue. Do you realize that in Pinellas county, Florida, there's an entire trailer park full of sex offenders?
I grew up in that county and I had four separate occasions during my childhood where strangers offended against me in multiple ways. The Deep South is crawling with pedos too. Only the difference is, they get out of jail within a few months. This idea that the West Coast is just lenient on criminals is no more true than the East Coast being lenient on criminals.
Ok. Why would it matter if they were spread out or concentrated in one area upon release if they are rehabilitated and safe.
If there is a uptick in sex crime in an area you can narrow the search more easily?
How about spend the efforts on the victims and trash the offenders. That will open up all that housing for our homeless problem.
Damn. Maybe I should run for office
Great reporting, Dave!
Is she serious? One of the doctors said she doesn't see herself as a woman. In that kind of working environment?
Harvest their organs and use the rest for fertilizer
What a system failure.
Research has shown sexual preference cannot be changed or healed.
But you just decide to set these hideous monsters loose on us again.😢
I’m baffled that Candice Yi doesn’t think about the fact that she’s a female within the walls, along side men who have targeted females in sexually violent ways. Maybe she didn’t want to acknowledge that she is different than men, I’m not sure but, it seemed like an odd answer to a valid question of concern.
The best way to keep every communities safe would be to neuter those convicted violate sex offenders. And actually that would also be helpful to keep them safe in terms of staying away from becoming a sex predator again.
Sorry but no. The twig n berries is not the problem nor is it the only thing They use. I'm getting sick of saying this but I speak from experience. They are evil.
why not establish even more of these Special Commitment Centres as a 'final destination' for these offenders
and keep them OUT of the public arena where they are most likely to re-offend!!!
our women and children's safety are worth far more than any 'rights' these violent offenders might have!!!
One thing I've learned growing up in Washington is not to trust any spokesperson of authority that is in charge of, 1) Hanford facility, 2)prison DOC system administration under the current governor, 3) All DOT spokespeople and public affairs types.
Since he'd feel safe, release them on his block. Seriously though, keep them locked away from the general public. What part of *Sexually Violent* don't people understand!!*
I know it's two different issues but I have seen so many addicts go through counseling and professional care. A majority of those people learn the expected language pretty quickly and know what they need to say and do to get what they want. Usually to get out of the strict over site they are experiencing. Not addressing and reversing their behavior. Thou when they are ready they can eventually do that. How much more skilled these criminals at McNiel must be on that score. Add to that when the psychiatric community is unable to resolve issues they tend to want "normalize" the behaviour and have it accepted by society at large vs admitting their methods don't always work.
What is blowing my mind is the fact that these deviants are allowed to take one more breath after being found guilty! Immediate execution. And hell….go ahead and do it publicly! It’s time a message gets sent to people who think they have the right to lay ONE. F’ING. FINGER on an innocent!!!
i agree with you on children molesters. but what about men whose animal instincts took over against grown adult women?
Exactly! Watching my daughter’s pedophile live free is the greatest insult. I have zero faith in our system. I truly believe our government is just as sick if they don’t believe in death for such crimes. My child will never reach her full potential and it even destroyed my life. You have to relive it over and over though the logical side of you knows it wasn’t your fault.
@@ambermyers7463 I’m so sorry that happened to your daughter and to your family. Sadly, I know what it’s like to go thru something like that. It also happened to my son. As a mom I know what you carry around…..
I don’t think sexual predators should be let back out into society. It’s not safe and they will reoffend!
I don’t think ex cops convicted of crimes or gang members should be let out in society
There actually the lowest recidivism rate
@@grunsfeldband777 not true at all.
@@slconley not defending them but look up official statistics. it's true 2.5 percent reoffend
@@grunsfeldband777 where’s your stats from? And what about the SA that isn’t caught. Most kids who are assaulted do not tell.
The re-offending rate for sexual preds is so high it's out of this world the little classes and therapies they make these creatures go through does not help maybe one out of 50 actually learn something and change...not worth the risk to me and my family 🤷 there's no misconceptions there's just some types of people who need to be permanently separated from the rest of us.
Wrong. The re-offense rate is only second to murder. Other offenses have WAY higher recidivism rates. You are deluded by government fear mongering.
There actually the lowest recidivism rate
They haven’t had sexual contact since being in treatment so you know when they’re released they will be looking for it.
The most secure 🔐 is a gun
So what I got from this is we need to pass a law that states you lose your rights to freedom if you assault a child. If these doctors genuinely think they can find a cure then go right on ahead, but until then keep these monsters out of our society until they’re 100% cured. If that never happens then touch luck, they made the choice to harm a child when they’re fully aware of the consequences. We’re already feeding them, providing medical care, entertainment, and shelter..that’s about all they deserve (even though I’d personally argue that they don’t but that’s another topic). The fact that these parents even have to worry about sex offenders moving into their community makes me sick. This shouldn’t be a thing!
Bottom line is they don’t deserve the same rights as a free human being who has never and would never harm a child. If that is the reason for this mess then we should change the laws to protect the victim! Not the POS.
By virtue of the name of these Criminals...
sexual violent predators....
most are very capable of lying without detection. They should never be released into society. The recidivism of these criminals has been proven over and over. Until this comes into these supporters lives, they will never understand the ramifications of hurting and hearts of these victims and their families. There are not enough workers to keep these criminals from repeating their crimes.
This wellness retreat should be afforded to people who will truly benefit
How about the government just locks all the doors and just leaves good these people are more evil than any evil you can think of
At least people turned it into the most sickest predator act you could ever imagine
They give up their constitutional right when they hurt children 😢
The constitution doesn’t care about your feelings buddy 😂
School for predators. Somewhere they can discuss their ideas. Lock them up and throw away the key
Look I'm a lady who came across a situation from a naked niel who got off from going to a mcNiel island. Keep that hurtful harmful science engineering trash confined to a small monitored area if we have to even do that
I don't believe Candace Yi saying she has never considered her job as it relates to her sex and gender for one second. If she hadn't she would be unfit for her job for lack of understanding what kind of people she's supposed to be rehabilitating. The reporter interviewing the reporter at the end of this video literally asked about making sure the offenders are safe when they get released. Poor choice of words? Or more concerned about the offender and not enough for the victims?
Great Idea!
Omg , this actually exists?!?!?
Sounds like something in a dystopia film.
He said he would feel safe....
There are 5 sex offenders that live 2 houses over from me,they don't leave the property,the person that houses them does all the shopping for their needs.
It's sad how many people in these comments miss the whole point of this video. Yes what they did was awful but they clearly need help and this facility actually gives people the help they need.
American prisons are not set up to help people. It's nice to see that some institutions exist to help people after prison instead of them just being released straight from prison where they'll just fall back into the same life that landed them in prison originally.
I could understand being upset if people were being released right from prison into the neighborhoods but that's not what's happening here
Agreed. Reading many of the popular comments it's clear that many people didn't actually watch the entire video.
I did watch the entire video and I understand the purpose of the program but even the employees in the documentary admit that they are attempting to lower the chances of risk of offenses reoccurring, not that complete safety of others is guaranteed upon release.
Of course the program itself is noble and both an ethical and much-needed undertaking, but it’s simply unrealistic to think that crimes will never happen again in the future.
For anyone, old habits are hard to break and even once one has learned coping strategies and mechanisms, there can still be moments of relapse or falling into familiar habits during moments of great stress.
Many people aren’t outright stating that the program at the commitment center is a positive thing, but I do believe they would agree with that statement. Unfortunately, even the best laid plans and hopes cannot alter reality.
And in my opinion, the reality is that people who’ve engaged in this type of activity should be closely monitored and supervised for the rest of their lives. When you think about it, it’s not too different from group homes where disabled individuals live and are cared for because they’re not able to live independently (although I do acknowledge that living in a group home due to disability and living in a group home to prevent future violent crimes are starkly different circumstances with different care needs).
Defeatist and cynical? Perhaps. The truth? I’m afraid so.
To conclude, I’m aware that this type of extended group living arrangement doesn’t currently exist as a permanent living option (at least that I’m aware). But it’s really the only adequate and safest answer with the lowest possible likelihood of reoffending.
This people decided to harm others in a horrible way, scared them for life if they are still alive, and you want to help them? What about their victims? Who will help them? The victims need more help than they are getting. Poor homeless people who are starving need more help. Orphan kids need more help. Alos this program, institution does not have a 100% guarantee. Who to say they wont go back to their awful way after 5 years released? Who to say they wont become smarter and harder to catch them? Even if just 5% of them will re-commit awful crimes, that could still mean 100 of victims. Is it worth innocent people to suffer in order to release them? Their past victims are still suffering even now. is it worth making new victims?
@@STCatchMeTRACjRo You could say the same thing about people who have taken the lives of others through malice or negligence and we release those, too, once they've served their time. If you have an issue with the justice system, do your part by contacting your representatives.
@@EternalGalaxies I agree with you completely, but currently (for better or for worse) the crimes these people have committed don't carry a life sentence in prison. From an entirely cynical view, all the people in this commitment facility have served their time and the state is using somewhat flimsy reasoning to lock them up in a type of medical hold -- I'm not sure how well it would hold up if someone were to push for their civil rights and push to be released -- and with every day they are being treated "medically" that's one less day they are freely walking around unsupervised.
I'm glad you watched the video and commented here because I think conversations like these are important and need to happen. My statement about many people not watching the video was in regards to the top comments at the time who were arguing that these people need to stay on the island and shouldn't be released from the island until they had served their full sentences and received mental health treatment -- which as we both know, since we did watch the video, is what the video is about and is advocating.
I think they should be locked away forever
how we pay for it
We are all at risk if one has history. One should not risk it. Oh Nope I’m not sure how much it is worth for innocent people.
Why are these people better taken care of then the homeless veterans? Just saying...