I absolutely love that because Kara once told Lee that she wasn't afraid of death, but feared being forgotten... his last words to her were "Good bye, Kara. You won't be forgotten." So bittersweet. They really were soulmates. ALL the tears!
Given that her remains were found in her crashed viper earlier in the series and Baltar revealed her to be an angel ( prompting Starbucks to punch him) then yes I would agree that's what happened in the story
That's because this is all part of the hallucination as he dies of asphyxiation after having ejected during battle. Well, it's as sensible as any theory. ;-)
@@dreamer2260 I agree! While the characters whom I felt did NOT deserve a happy ending (i.e., Gaius Baltar) got one, characters like Bill Adama, Lee and Galen Tyrell lost everything and everyone they loved. I don't know whether Kara's was a 'happy ending' even though she said it 'felt good' that she'd completed her journey, but I think she deserved to live. I hated the ending to this otherwise phenomenal series!!!
Ah one of those rare moments in TV/cinema history when the scene just smacks you directly in the face. And doesn't bother to say excuse me or brace for impact.
Note that Kara crosses her arms and sounds rather sharp when she speaks her final line, the question "And now that you're here?" She only vanishes once Lee confirms that he is inspired to take an active role in shaping the future of humanity rather than remaining passive. He will explore, map, and continue striving to do more with his life. I've always felt this really was meant to be a part of her journey as an "angel". That last question wasn't just Kara talking, but something speaking through her - or at least abruptly causing her to know what she needed to ask. And Lee's response confirmed that her task was indeed complete. And the moment it was, she was gone.
I really like this. She not only guided humanity in terms of physical destination, but guided the leaders to make sure they will push on. Humanity won't die in the dark without a fight.
There is not many tv shows that touch your soul and leave a mark,this one did and will forever stay in my memories,i loved every character in this show,with Kara Thrace being my favorite,just wish i had opportunity to met her in real life,knowing i will not makes me sad.
"Everyone dies alone, but if you mean something to someone, if you help someone, or love someone, if even a single person remembers you, then maybe you never really die at all." Best line about death (from ANOTHER series finalie) that I've ever found.
"And now that you're here?" Last words we hear her say. I think about it every few years or so. You can go off by a few degrees each day and in time, you're completely lost: "I'll get there in my career and it's going to be great", "I'll relax once I achieve X or Y". It's easy to drive yourself off a cliff chasing a life made of common sense and good intentions. So, after every little milestone I think of Starbuck. "And now that you're here?"
One of the most moving scenes I've ever experienced, as well as one of the greatest characters. The mysterious aspect of Kara's role as angel and prophet, guiding the human and Cylon races to Earth, from her death and resurrection to her sudden departure in this last scene, balanced well with the progressive revelations that she was indeed meant to lead them there (from the visions she experienced in Caprica to the music within her which held the coordinates to Earth). Bittersweet but great.
What I also loved about them ending with Kara and Lee is that their relationship helped reinforce this whole idea that Kara was always meant for a greater role. She obviously him, but she could never possibly settle into that relationship, because it would've kept her from her ultimate role in guiding the survivors to Earth. So you had this gut-wrenching inability for them to ever live out the love they felt, brought to its conclusion here in these final moments with her role complete.
"Everyone dies alone, but if you mean something to someone, if you help someone, or love someone, if even a single person remembers you, then maybe you never really die at all." Best line about death (from ANOTHER series finalie) that I've ever found.
I remember that lighter. Sure could use a magnifying glass, and a pocket knife.. "There you go again" - Ronald Reagan. .. Still, odd ending. It's Starbucks. Whose going to forget her? Whereas, what is the name of the guy she is talking to? I guess she means - all I seem to have done is to get others to hate me. And now they wiĺl say, that's the one, who stranded us here.
Ah yes. Because a memory is the same as the real thing. When a starving man remembers a roast beef sandwich, it is just like he HAS the roast beef sandwich. And then when he dies, but someone remembers him, the essence of the roast beef sandwich is still there.
Except that she is forgotten. Those few survivors probably didn't live long lives out in the wild, foregoing their technology and medicine. Most were probably dead in a matter of a few years. We saw them walking off in different directions with minimal gear and equipment. Even Hera Agathon died as a young woman as stated in the last few minutes of the finale, (maybe late teens, early 20s?). Everyone that knew Starbuck is gone, and even they are forgotten. 150k years in the future, probably the old ruined cities on the 12 colonies, Kobol, original Earth, etc have decayed and are completely lost in time with no record. All is forgotten and lost, buried in time.
I don't think this is even a sad ending for Lee. Look at him. He knows. He always knew. He accepted. He will always keep the memory of Kara in his heart til they will meet again "there". Until then, he starts his new life - maybe even one that might be filled more with adventure and emotions than his former one? He lost a lot, yes, but in the end, he won and he knows it. On the other hand - his father is an entirely different tale.
This scene was probably "Top 5 of Most Moving Scenes" in the series. It was well thought out and the people who cant see the symbolism and the foreshadowing leading up to this must be very dense. "Angel"; "Harbinger", "Martyr", "symbol of hope". Though all these quotes may conflict with each other they all speak of death and the life after death. Kara's character embodied these traits and in my opinion was the most important character in the series [and no it's not because she led them to earth]
Just wanted to thank these folks who posted these video portions from a great Sci-Fi series. I have so enjoyed the story, the excellent acting and the emotional feelings these episodes have stirred up. Great job and thank you for posting these videos on UA-cam! God Bless
I know I'm in the minority, but I love how Kara's storyline ended. I love at 2:26, lee moves in closer to her and Kara stops him knowing that it will be too hard to say goodbye, I think, for both of them. So, she changes the subject and then disappears when Lee has that little boy look of I want to explore. It's almost as if Kara is saying, You'll be okay, Lee. I love it!!!!! Kara, you will not be forgotten!
0:24 - Adama asks Starbuck "What d'ya hear, Starbuck?" and she replies "Nothin' but the rain." When he tells her "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat" I mistakenly thought that meant she was going to forsake her true destiny and stay with Lee. I would have liked that better.
Yes. That would have been truly subversive; instead they had to go the cynical, soul-crushing route that supposedly makes a story more 'mature' or 'complex'. A tragic wasted opportunity.
@Tin Man Woah. You know what I think you may be right. I think you’ve just blown most BSG fans’ conceptions of that line out of the water. That makes way more sense, I always thought cat was just completely random. Edit: though listening again it does sound like Eddie does say cat. I wonder if it was originally meant to be CAP and it got a bit Chinese whispered at some point. I’ll think of it as CAP from now on.
Spins and turns, angles and curves. The shape of dreams, half-remembered. Slip the surly bonds of earth and touch the face of perfection. A perfect face, perfect lace - find the perfect world for the end of Kara Thrace. End of line.
Thanks for the upload. This is one of few actual clips of BSG on youtube, that hasn't been silenced or turned into a music video or something. Wish there was one of the last few minutes of season 3.
"You are the Harbinger of the death. " Because technically when she led the cylons and humans to Earth, she brought the fading death of the human and cylon race, but at the same time helped paved the way for today's modern humans, a entirely new race human and cylon mixed.
I scrolled across a comment about Kara as angel of death, helping bring about the death of human and Cylon races but ultimately bringing an unexpected new race of both converged into one. The way this was done was beautiful. You had these darkly prophetic expectations of Kara Thrace in that scene after they find her Viper and dead body, and it makes you question her resurrected role. But the death she'd actually bring about resulted in a new beginning. Pretty awesome use of the prophetic.
If you subscribe to the notion that the Universe has a collective conscientiousness, that while living we are separated from it. Kara's death and rebirth makes more sense due to the fact her conscientiousness returned to the whole and was sent back to guide her people to a new beginning.
Bill Adama didn't have long, either. He was left with a heart condition after Boomer shot him and in a few scenes during the series after the shooting you can see him clutch at his chest (when he's really stressed or upset). He also said that he couldn't live without Roslin previously. I had the impression that he knew his heart issues were getting worse and he knew he didn't have long, either. Kara somehow knew that Adm. Adama would die before his son could ever find him to see him again. At least, that was my interpretation of the scene.
I didn't really like this abrupt ending for Starbuck. It's like someone just hit delete and then she was gone. She should of either left for the stars in her viper or just stayed with Sam till the end.
Kara was a manifestation of the Will of the Universe. Brought back to lead her people to a new home. Once her job was finished, the Will fulfilled, Kara returned back to the Universe.
Part 2 As war broke out in the 13th colony, she was destroyed (in the raptor she finds later on). She never knew her role. Now she was resurected but she was programed to help the 5 and followed them on caprica. Her memory was "wiped out", replaced with them of a childhood she never had. These memories played an important role beacause her creators gave her hints to lead the 5 to the new colony (our earth). They did not want her to intervene if not necessary.
I respectfully disagree. Even the cylon/human hybrid (that controls/runs the base star) tells Kara that she will lead humans to their end, not cylons. Her task was to get the remaining humans to safety, which she did when she punched in the numbers on the FTL jump drive during the final battle between humans and cylons (by the singularity). Her viper exploded while chasing a cylon bogie above the gas planet but she was mysteriously transported to the original Earth so that she'd know where it was & could therefore lead the remaining human survivors there. I never got the impression that Kara's fate had anything to do with the Cylons, but everything to do with helping the remainder of humanity survive.
After I finished the show, it bugged me so much I couldn't sleep, but then I thought it's great that they didn't say, I love the ending now, as sad as it is, it was beautiful
@@usul573: I think it sucked that Lee had to say goodbye to Kara, not once, but TWICE in the series. I know the writers of the series were probably making a point by illustrating that sometimes the good guys (Bill Adama, Lee, Kara and Galen Tyrell) don't have happy endings while creepy, narcissistic, self-serving jerks like Gaius Baltar often get away with their past crimes and sins, but making Lee say goodbye twice to the woman he truly loved was just wrong, in my opinion. Though the endings of BSG were beautifully heart wrenching, I totally disagreed with them and will probably be mad at the writers all over again every time I watch the series. ;)
It makes me feel sad. It's been such a long time since I've seen the show. I want to see it again, but I know it's too complex for me now. But It's just too awesome.
Am I the only one who sees her as a pheonix. She dies in a fiery crash in one life and reborn into a new world as a messenger then again dies and is returned to her first life to finish her unfinished buisiness.
context: Humans evolved on a far away world. They created robots called Cylons. Cylons revolted and a war broke out. There were no winners. The remaining humans fled to a planet called Kobol and started anew there, erasing their history. The Cylons evolved further and learned to grow human bodies for themselves . Then they evolved further and their consciousness exceeded the universe and they became "God". Humans keep making new versions of Cylons, and they keep warring with each other at every stop. Kobol, the 12 colonies, Earth-1, Earth-2, etc. The God-level Cylons seek to guide the races towards an end to conflict to work together. At their level of tech, the God-level Cylons can make virtual beings pop into existence anywhere, visible to only 1 person or everyone, and even make them interact with the physical world. The real world is like a virtual reality Matrix to them. Kara Thrace crash landed on Earth-1, a desolate planet, and died. The God-level Cylons took her consciousness and elevated her to angel status, then sent her back to Galactica as a guide. Not even she was sure what she was at first. This is the final scene with angel Kara, and she knows what she is and simply vanishes to be of use somewhere else in the universe. Note that this echoes the fate of the Original Starbuck in the original 1970s TV series. Starbuck crashed on a desolate planet. He ended up allying with Cylons. This version crashed on a desolate planet and allied with the Cylon God.
everyone in that universe has seen some crazy shit. Her appearing out of nowhere to begin with was crazy enough. Disapearing is just normal for them lol
I think he had a clue when Kara told him she had completed her journey; it didn't make sense until immediately after he realized she'd totally vanished. After all these years I'm still not happy with the endings; creepy jerks like Gaius Baltar get their happy endings, while people like Kara, Bill Adama, Lee and Galen Tyrell lost everything they loved or cared about. Sure, the ending was 'poetic' and beautiful, in a sad, depressing way, but in reality the wrong people got the short end of the stick. Just my opinion.
I know what you mean. And as much as I wish that she and Lee could have lived happily ever after, I'm not sure they could ever have gotten to a place where their relationship could have worked. I think Katee said it really well in one of the conventions when asked about Kara and Lee. "They are soulmates, but that doesn't mean that they're meant to get married and everything to suddenly be perfect." very loosely quoted. :)
I think he was just tired of all the responsibility. An alternate theory I've seen is that he's supposed to be like a "Moses" figure. He gets to see the "Promised Land" but doesn't get to live there due to his lack of faith during the journey. I dunno, I kind of like the idea of him building Laura's cabin then getting in the last Raptor and flying it into the sun.
I wrote this on the official vid a while back -I've gone over it a thousand times, and the only kind of compromise I have is viewing it as a symbolic death. Kara vanishes. Roslin dies. Adama flies off to the rest of his life, to live on that hill alone in their cabin that is "Almost heavenly" besides her grave. Lee goes off to explore the planet. Everyone else left alive settles on earth and Lee could potentially see them again. They stood there, on earth together, they achieved their goal, but there is still death and sadness. Somehow it's ok though. That's the main message. Kara promised him that it would be ok and that Lee would love it. He had to let her go. Full circle.
For the rest of my life, this will forever be the one scene I can't decide at all how I feel about it. I love it and it's also the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
help from the Gods which she was so devoted to believing in...it's faith which always has an element of mystery cause it's the opposite of logic which gives the writers poetic license.
Sometimes i like to sit and think about life on this planet evolving in a similar fashion. Silly i know. But the thought has always been on my mind even before they did it in BSG. I mean my thoughts never included Cylons just an advance race of people abandoning a dying world in search of a new place to call home. Stargate Universe had an episode that was sorta similar in season 2.
Ok maybe I am wacky but I always thought the same. I wouldnt be surprised at all if they found evidence on Mars of another advanced race with the tech about the same as ours that knew something terrible was about to happen and put together a few ships and launched them to a volatile world that was just developing life...Earth. those ships would have just been tossed together and not prepared to rebuild cities on earth but just to trying to make it so life would continue. As struggles to eat and make shelter would take so much effort that any kind of advanced unneeded tech would be forgotten and couldnt even be rebuilt without the needed infrastructures......Who knows maybe Kara will appear when we finally land on Mars and tell us of our brothers and sisters fighting to survive on 12 worlds far away...original BSG lore lol
Part 3 Sam (each of the 5 could work as a trigger) trigered something in her mind (they programmed a backup system into her so that when something horrible would happen she would bring them back to the 13th colony). That's why she became obssesed with him. My guess is that the tranmission to her resurrection center required a lot of energy that's why the killed herself in the strom, her memories of these paintings are all fake and just a death wish.
There's something I simply don't understand. The Colonials spoke English, then this language disappeared and it reappeared in England 150,000 years later. That's incredible!
@CGiBunny Same here... same here. Got the songs saved on my phone. I'll be listening to me as I do things and when songs like this come on, I just break apart (not a lot, but a few tears fall)
Lee breaks his leg 10 days later and dies alone in a ditch somewhere due to lack of medical treatment. Why the fuck would you throw away your advanced technology and ships?
"Everyone dies alone, but if you mean something to someone, if you help someone, or love someone, if even a single person remembers you, then maybe you never really die at all." Best line about death (from ANOTHER series finalie) that I've ever found.
@@WarGrowlmon18 Ozymandias believed your line. "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair! " Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
Did anyone else find this scene absolutely heartbreaking?
Yep. Couldn't sleep afterwards...
I felt like the Adama and Roslin scene was more heartbreaking
Yep, cried through the episode.
ajb7876 it was sad....but a great ending knowing that she was Angel 👼 and her journey was over.
Depressed for days
I absolutely love that because Kara once told Lee that she wasn't afraid of death, but feared being forgotten... his last words to her were "Good bye, Kara. You won't be forgotten." So bittersweet. They really were soulmates. ALL the tears!
I think she was an angel. As Baltar said: "Angels walk amongst us to guide us home to safety." That's exactly what she did.
8 year old repliy - But I literally think the same every time I rewatch this TV show.
Given that her remains were found in her crashed viper earlier in the series and Baltar revealed her to be an angel ( prompting Starbucks to punch him) then yes I would agree that's what happened in the story
"Goodbye Kara, you wont be forgotten."
Indeed, even thousands of years later, a famous coffe brand still honours her. ;)
You’re brewing the wrong wayyyyy!!!😰😨🤬
I think that Apollo standing there all alone at the very end probably hit me hardest.
Lee lost everything and everyone at the end.
That's because this is all part of the hallucination as he dies of asphyxiation after having ejected during battle.
Well, it's as sensible as any theory. ;-)
Yeah, while shitty characters got the happy ending
Yeah, they really did his character (and most definitely Kara as well) an injustice with this ending.
@@dreamer2260 I agree! While the characters whom I felt did NOT deserve a happy ending (i.e., Gaius Baltar) got one, characters like Bill Adama, Lee and Galen Tyrell lost everything and everyone they loved. I don't know whether Kara's was a 'happy ending' even though she said it 'felt good' that she'd completed her journey, but I think she deserved to live. I hated the ending to this otherwise phenomenal series!!!
@@Diah1 Yep, exactly. Was a real shame.
This series was the very reason why television was invented. There was never a better series, not ever.
THANK YOU!
Breaking Bad, The Sopranos the list goes on.
Babylon 5 🤗
@@granknight Dr Who.
@@purefoldnz3070 No, no, no, and no.
Ah one of those rare moments in TV/cinema history when the scene just smacks you directly in the face. And doesn't bother to say excuse me or brace for impact.
Note that Kara crosses her arms and sounds rather sharp when she speaks her final line, the question "And now that you're here?" She only vanishes once Lee confirms that he is inspired to take an active role in shaping the future of humanity rather than remaining passive. He will explore, map, and continue striving to do more with his life.
I've always felt this really was meant to be a part of her journey as an "angel". That last question wasn't just Kara talking, but something speaking through her - or at least abruptly causing her to know what she needed to ask. And Lee's response confirmed that her task was indeed complete. And the moment it was, she was gone.
Nicely put - yes I agree
I really like this. She not only guided humanity in terms of physical destination, but guided the leaders to make sure they will push on. Humanity won't die in the dark without a fight.
Her journey may have been over, but she still had one final act... making sure her best friend was going to be ok.
I love how it takes Lee a moment and some looking around to realize that Kara was there but she wasn't at the same time. She was special yo..
There is not many tv shows that touch your soul and leave a mark,this one did and will forever stay in my memories,i loved every character in this show,with Kara Thrace being my favorite,just wish i had opportunity to met her in real life,knowing i will not makes me sad.
"Everyone dies alone, but if you mean something to someone, if you help someone, or love someone, if even a single person remembers you, then maybe you never really die at all." Best line about death (from ANOTHER series finalie) that I've ever found.
Maybe she makes appearances at ComicCons. In Oct 2021, she got married and in Dec 2021 she became a mother. Good for her!!! :-)
"And now that you're here?" Last words we hear her say. I think about it every few years or so. You can go off by a few degrees each day and in time, you're completely lost: "I'll get there in my career and it's going to be great", "I'll relax once I achieve X or Y". It's easy to drive yourself off a cliff chasing a life made of common sense and good intentions. So, after every little milestone I think of Starbuck.
"And now that you're here?"
Kara the Angel , the best TV show ever by a huge margin , it lives with me all the time ....
So when Kara crashed and died in Maelstrom, the angels (or messengers) resurrected her to play a role to assist the humans. Thats how I interpret it.
One of the most moving scenes I've ever experienced, as well as one of the greatest characters. The mysterious aspect of Kara's role as angel and prophet, guiding the human and Cylon races to Earth, from her death and resurrection to her sudden departure in this last scene, balanced well with the progressive revelations that she was indeed meant to lead them there (from the visions she experienced in Caprica to the music within her which held the coordinates to Earth). Bittersweet but great.
What I also loved about them ending with Kara and Lee is that their relationship helped reinforce this whole idea that Kara was always meant for a greater role. She obviously him, but she could never possibly settle into that relationship, because it would've kept her from her ultimate role in guiding the survivors to Earth. So you had this gut-wrenching inability for them to ever live out the love they felt, brought to its conclusion here in these final moments with her role complete.
"Everyone dies alone, but if you mean something to someone, if you help someone, or love someone, if even a single person remembers you, then maybe you never really die at all." Best line about death (from ANOTHER series finalie) that I've ever found.
I remember that lighter. Sure could use a magnifying glass, and a pocket knife.. "There you go again" - Ronald Reagan. .. Still, odd ending. It's Starbucks. Whose going to forget her? Whereas, what is the name of the guy she is talking to? I guess she means - all I seem to have done is to get others to hate me. And now they wiĺl say, that's the one, who stranded us here.
Kelly KitKat That's really confusing and I have NO IDEA what it has to do with my quote!!!
from person of interest, it's a great quote.
Ah yes. Because a memory is the same as the real thing. When a starving man remembers a roast beef sandwich, it is just like he HAS the roast beef sandwich. And then when he dies, but someone remembers him, the essence of the roast beef sandwich is still there.
Except that she is forgotten. Those few survivors probably didn't live long lives out in the wild, foregoing their technology and medicine. Most were probably dead in a matter of a few years. We saw them walking off in different directions with minimal gear and equipment. Even Hera Agathon died as a young woman as stated in the last few minutes of the finale, (maybe late teens, early 20s?). Everyone that knew Starbuck is gone, and even they are forgotten. 150k years in the future, probably the old ruined cities on the 12 colonies, Kobol, original Earth, etc have decayed and are completely lost in time with no record. All is forgotten and lost, buried in time.
I don't think this is even a sad ending for Lee. Look at him. He knows. He always knew. He accepted. He will always keep the memory of Kara in his heart til they will meet again "there".
Until then, he starts his new life - maybe even one that might be filled more with adventure and emotions than his former one? He lost a lot, yes, but in the end, he won and he knows it.
On the other hand - his father is an entirely different tale.
This scene was probably "Top 5 of Most Moving Scenes" in the series. It was well thought out and the people who cant see the symbolism and the foreshadowing leading up to this must be very dense. "Angel"; "Harbinger", "Martyr", "symbol of hope". Though all these quotes may conflict with each other they all speak of death and the life after death. Kara's character embodied these traits and in my opinion was the most important character in the series [and no it's not because she led them to earth]
Just wanted to thank these folks who posted these video portions from a great Sci-Fi series. I have so enjoyed the story, the excellent acting and the emotional feelings these episodes have stirred up. Great job and thank you for posting these videos on UA-cam! God Bless
I know I'm in the minority, but I love how Kara's storyline ended. I love at 2:26, lee moves in closer to her and Kara stops him knowing that it will be too hard to say goodbye, I think, for both of them. So, she changes the subject and then disappears when Lee has that little boy look of I want to explore. It's almost as if Kara is saying, You'll be okay, Lee. I love it!!!!! Kara, you will not be forgotten!
0:24 - Adama asks Starbuck "What d'ya hear, Starbuck?" and she replies "Nothin' but the rain." When he tells her "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat" I mistakenly thought that meant she was going to forsake her true destiny and stay with Lee. I would have liked that better.
Yes. That would have been truly subversive; instead they had to go the cynical, soul-crushing route that supposedly makes a story more 'mature' or 'complex'. A tragic wasted opportunity.
@Tin Man Woah. You know what I think you may be right. I think you’ve just blown most BSG fans’ conceptions of that line out of the water. That makes way more sense, I always thought cat was just completely random. Edit: though listening again it does sound like Eddie does say cat. I wonder if it was originally meant to be CAP and it got a bit Chinese whispered at some point. I’ll think of it as CAP from now on.
It was a product of the times. The few years after 9/11. Dark and foreboding plots were all the craze.
Katee Sackoff is stunning!
Good ending and I love the music at the end.
I really liked this scene, it captured the spiritual element of the show nicely.
Spins and turns, angles and curves. The shape of dreams, half-remembered. Slip the surly bonds of earth and touch the face of perfection. A perfect face, perfect lace - find the perfect world for the end of Kara Thrace.
End of line.
The show could never have a happy ending...
No....never.
Kara Thrace. Best character ever.
Thanks for the upload. This is one of few actual clips of BSG on youtube, that hasn't been silenced or turned into a music video or something. Wish there was one of the last few minutes of season 3.
"You wont be forgotten. We will one day name a Coffee chain company after you."
Starbuck... :)
serpentphoenix so wrong 😂
Thank you for the awesome coffee Coffee god
3:20 You see Kara running away as fast as she can.
I've replayed that part of the scene and I still don't see it.
Thank you! I love the Szene. So emotional and intensiv! It’s hard to believe the first episode is from 2004 nearly 20 years ago!
You won`t be forgotten...
Kara's story shows that your life can be shit from the very beginning but you can take it in your hands and do something great.
Why do I get tears in my eyes everytime I watch this.
Because it was highly deserved. A conclusion to a relationship that spanned over many seasons. It's bittersweet and therefore even more relevant.
"You are the Harbinger of the death. "
Because technically when she led the cylons and humans to Earth, she brought the fading death of the human and cylon race, but at the same time helped paved the way for today's modern humans, a entirely new race human and cylon mixed.
I scrolled across a comment about Kara as angel of death, helping bring about the death of human and Cylon races but ultimately bringing an unexpected new race of both converged into one. The way this was done was beautiful. You had these darkly prophetic expectations of Kara Thrace in that scene after they find her Viper and dead body, and it makes you question her resurrected role. But the death she'd actually bring about resulted in a new beginning. Pretty awesome use of the prophetic.
no man, she is almost telling you with her face. she is an angel and she knows at last!
sad......but to finally her go?? joyous..
god ive never cried so much at the ending of a show... i only need to hear the music
I subscribe to the theory that the Kara that we see at the end is from another timeline and she disappeared after the timeloop was broken.
If you subscribe to the notion that the Universe has a collective conscientiousness, that while living we are separated from it. Kara's death and rebirth makes more sense due to the fact her conscientiousness returned to the whole and was sent back to guide her people to a new beginning.
I identify with Kara / Starbuck . I will have to say good bye for good to someone soon.
Lee doesn't even get a goodbye hug? I always found their relationship so tragic. Soulmates that were never meant to be together
I just realized she said that you should go because she knew Roslin didn't have long
Bill Adama didn't have long, either. He was left with a heart condition after Boomer shot him and in a few scenes during the series after the shooting you can see him clutch at his chest (when he's really stressed or upset). He also said that he couldn't live without Roslin previously. I had the impression that he knew his heart issues were getting worse and he knew he didn't have long, either. Kara somehow knew that Adm. Adama would die before his son could ever find him to see him again. At least, that was my interpretation of the scene.
I like how bushy his hair is and how tired he looks, like he just woke up from a dream. Now he’s rested and ready take on the day…and new world.
I didn't really like this abrupt ending for Starbuck.
It's like someone just hit delete and then she was gone.
She should of either left for the stars in her viper or just stayed with Sam till the end.
@eastbound2020Pi$$ 0ff seams like a fitting reply.
Kara was a manifestation of the Will of the Universe. Brought back to lead her people to a new home. Once her job was finished, the Will fulfilled, Kara returned back to the Universe.
Should've stayed with Lee. Though by that point, the writers had already damaged both of their characters significantly.
Part 2
As war broke out in the 13th colony, she was destroyed (in the raptor she finds later on). She never knew her role. Now she was resurected but she was programed to help the 5 and followed them on caprica. Her memory was "wiped out", replaced with them of a childhood she never had. These memories played an important role beacause her creators gave her hints to lead the 5 to the new colony (our earth). They did not want her to intervene if not necessary.
I respectfully disagree. Even the cylon/human hybrid (that controls/runs the base star) tells Kara that she will lead humans to their end, not cylons. Her task was to get the remaining humans to safety, which she did when she punched in the numbers on the FTL jump drive during the final battle between humans and cylons (by the singularity). Her viper exploded while chasing a cylon bogie above the gas planet but she was mysteriously transported to the original Earth so that she'd know where it was & could therefore lead the remaining human survivors there. I never got the impression that Kara's fate had anything to do with the Cylons, but everything to do with helping the remainder of humanity survive.
Damn i was a kid when the original was out and all I remember is the space fights.
I thought it was a good ending. I mean lets face it it was either this or the Galactica blew up lol
After I finished the show, it bugged me so much I couldn't sleep, but then I thought it's great that they didn't say, I love the ending now, as sad as it is, it was beautiful
So say we all.
One could imagine they would set up hobbit-like party all together but instead they all talk like philosophers on death bed and ending up alone.
that makes me cry(
If you watched Caprica (the show), you'd understand that BSG was all a simulation - hence, they vanishing Kara.
I always wondered what he was thinking in that very moment, before saying those words.
Probably remembering how Kara said in the flashbacks that her greatest fear wasn't death but being forgotten.
"It's ok. Just let me go" -When she died.
@@usul573: I think it sucked that Lee had to say goodbye to Kara, not once, but TWICE in the series. I know the writers of the series were probably making a point by illustrating that sometimes the good guys (Bill Adama, Lee, Kara and Galen Tyrell) don't have happy endings while creepy, narcissistic, self-serving jerks like Gaius Baltar often get away with their past crimes and sins, but making Lee say goodbye twice to the woman he truly loved was just wrong, in my opinion. Though the endings of BSG were beautifully heart wrenching, I totally disagreed with them and will probably be mad at the writers all over again every time I watch the series. ;)
Havent cried as much in a long time as I did watching this finale! :)
It makes me feel sad. It's been such a long time since I've seen the show. I want to see it again, but I know it's too complex for me now. But It's just too awesome.
This shit makes me cry :( damn it!
Am I the only one who sees her as a pheonix. She dies in a fiery crash in one life and reborn into a new world as a messenger then again dies and is returned to her first life to finish her unfinished buisiness.
why Kara? why?? :(
I am 17 when i was watching this chapter. I did cry. I am 21 now. I am sad.
Aynen oyle burak reyiz. simdi 17 yasimdayim 10 dk once bitirdim diziyi ve delirmemek icin zor duruyorum. 7 yil sonra yorumuna gelen cevap.
context: Humans evolved on a far away world. They created robots called Cylons. Cylons revolted and a war broke out. There were no winners. The remaining humans fled to a planet called Kobol and started anew there, erasing their history. The Cylons evolved further and learned to grow human bodies for themselves . Then they evolved further and their consciousness exceeded the universe and they became "God".
Humans keep making new versions of Cylons, and they keep warring with each other at every stop. Kobol, the 12 colonies, Earth-1, Earth-2, etc. The God-level Cylons seek to guide the races towards an end to conflict to work together. At their level of tech, the God-level Cylons can make virtual beings pop into existence anywhere, visible to only 1 person or everyone, and even make them interact with the physical world. The real world is like a virtual reality Matrix to them.
Kara Thrace crash landed on Earth-1, a desolate planet, and died. The God-level Cylons took her consciousness and elevated her to angel status, then sent her back to Galactica as a guide. Not even she was sure what she was at first. This is the final scene with angel Kara, and she knows what she is and simply vanishes to be of use somewhere else in the universe.
Note that this echoes the fate of the Original Starbuck in the original 1970s TV series. Starbuck crashed on a desolate planet. He ended up allying with Cylons. This version crashed on a desolate planet and allied with the Cylon God.
Goodbye Kara.
Starbuck, you will not be forgotten.
how does he not react more strongly to someone just vanishing right in front of him?
everyone in that universe has seen some crazy shit. Her appearing out of nowhere to begin with was crazy enough. Disapearing is just normal for them lol
I think he had a clue when Kara told him she had completed her journey; it didn't make sense until immediately after he realized she'd totally vanished. After all these years I'm still not happy with the endings; creepy jerks like Gaius Baltar get their happy endings, while people like Kara, Bill Adama, Lee and Galen Tyrell lost everything they loved or cared about. Sure, the ending was 'poetic' and beautiful, in a sad, depressing way, but in reality the wrong people got the short end of the stick. Just my opinion.
I guess they filmed this scene in an open field so when she was gone you knew that she was GONE.
God this was such a good fucking show.
Kara... is family
this whole episode reminds me of 'you're welcome' from angel
Oh man...
I know what you mean. And as much as I wish that she and Lee could have lived happily ever after, I'm not sure they could ever have gotten to a place where their relationship could have worked. I think Katee said it really well in one of the conventions when asked about Kara and Lee. "They are soulmates, but that doesn't mean that they're meant to get married and everything to suddenly be perfect." very loosely quoted. :)
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i understand this scene, but can someone tell me, the bit with 6 and balter at the end 50 thousands years later i have always been stumped by that
And then Apollo hooked up with Ishay the medic, meaning Jamie Bamber's character hooked up with Jamie Bamber's wife's character. ❤
I always wondered why didn’t Adama come back? I can’t see him just abandoning his son and only living family.
I think he was just tired of all the responsibility. An alternate theory I've seen is that he's supposed to be like a "Moses" figure. He gets to see the "Promised Land" but doesn't get to live there due to his lack of faith during the journey. I dunno, I kind of like the idea of him building Laura's cabin then getting in the last Raptor and flying it into the sun.
@@rickdff62 I’m surprised I didn’t see the Moses archetype when I watched the series.
@@rickdff62 with all the religious allegory in the show I can see Adama as a Moses figure.
I wrote this on the official vid a while back -I've gone over it a thousand times, and the only kind of compromise I have is viewing it as a symbolic death. Kara vanishes. Roslin dies. Adama flies off to the rest of his life, to live on that hill alone in their cabin that is "Almost heavenly" besides her grave. Lee goes off to explore the planet. Everyone else left alive settles on earth and Lee could potentially see them again. They stood there, on earth together, they achieved their goal, but there is still death and sadness. Somehow it's ok though. That's the main message. Kara promised him that it would be ok and that Lee would love it. He had to let her go. Full circle.
Laura R was actually the Moses parallel.
***** ***** ***** reminds of friends who died
goodbye Kara
For the rest of my life, this will forever be the one scene I can't decide at all how I feel about it. I love it and it's also the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
Please elaborate.
Lee's right, Starbuck is not forgatten, because an entrepreneur named a corporation after her.
Would love to know if humanity ever encounters the freed cylons again in the future.
help from the Gods which she was so devoted to believing in...it's faith which always has an element of mystery cause it's the opposite of logic which gives the writers poetic license.
Cross the Oceans, climb the tallest mountains.... Yeah, with what? Good luck with that *lol*
@fsoulis1 I completely agree. It was very "realistic" and poetic. It was consistent with her character.
Sometimes i like to sit and think about life on this planet evolving in a similar fashion. Silly i know. But the thought has always been on my mind even before they did it in BSG. I mean my thoughts never included Cylons just an advance race of people abandoning a dying world in search of a new place to call home. Stargate Universe had an episode that was sorta similar in season 2.
Ok maybe I am wacky but I always thought the same. I wouldnt be surprised at all if they found evidence on Mars of another advanced race with the tech about the same as ours that knew something terrible was about to happen and put together a few ships and launched them to a volatile world that was just developing life...Earth. those ships would have just been tossed together and not prepared to rebuild cities on earth but just to trying to make it so life would continue. As struggles to eat and make shelter would take so much effort that any kind of advanced unneeded tech would be forgotten and couldnt even be rebuilt without the needed infrastructures......Who knows maybe Kara will appear when we finally land on Mars and tell us of our brothers and sisters fighting to survive on 12 worlds far away...original BSG lore lol
only the humans died, there are still cylons out there
@lastone No....humans are cyclons.
@@fredflintstone9657 cylon*
@@prisoner5629 Right....I can't even bllame spellchecker.
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Sam (each of the 5 could work as a trigger) trigered something in her mind (they programmed a backup system into her so that when something horrible would happen she would bring them back to the 13th colony). That's why she became obssesed with him. My guess is that the tranmission to her resurrection center required a lot of energy that's why the killed herself in the strom, her memories of these paintings are all fake and just a death wish.
If she was a cylon, she wouldn't have vanished like that
It has been awhile since I saw the finale, so are there two different versions of the finale? That is what heard back in the day.
There's something I simply don't understand. The Colonials spoke English, then this language disappeared and it reappeared in England 150,000 years later. That's incredible!
3:15 when Thanos snaps his fingers...
3:15 fucking batman.
@CGiBunny Same here... same here.
Got the songs saved on my phone. I'll be listening to me as I do things and when songs like this come on, I just break apart (not a lot, but a few tears fall)
all characters had a very good ending.
Kara run very fast
Lee breaks his leg 10 days later and dies alone in a ditch somewhere due to lack of medical treatment.
Why the fuck would you throw away your advanced technology and ships?
She wasn't forgotten. They named a coffee franchise after her.
Is it me,or the Onion on my Hamburger causing the Tears!😣
"Everyone dies alone, but if you mean something to someone, if you help someone, or love someone, if even a single person remembers you, then maybe you never really die at all." Best line about death (from ANOTHER series finalie) that I've ever found.
Words and voices, last longer than the flesh. Shakespeare still echoes.
Kelly KitKat
I prefer my line. A lot more modern and has a really great scene to go with it!!!
@@WarGrowlmon18 Ozymandias believed your line.
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
@@christosvoskresye Ok...........🤔🤔🤔
@Rolwhite i am in the same boat as you.....and i believe we shall never know which makes it so much better :)
I think of Kara being the paverbial Methuselah of scripture who never died. And "God" took her up.
Lee and Helo become best buds and ..
😢
Almost cried here 1:22