I am 77. We only have what is the present. My wife died ten years ago next month after a very long illness. She is always with me, just a little more faded each year. I choose to smile at her being away... I understand the hard parts and cherish the happy parts and wait for my own passing. It was good to get to touch the end of this series. It will always be the best fiction ever written and acted out. One more door door softly closed. Thank you for sharing. Adieu.
Lots left to do. I am 44. I lost my third child to cancer almost 4 years ago at barely 12 years old. We respect the many years he missed out on and go out and do those things we wish he had a chance to do. 77 isn't the end fora lot of people. I had 3 great-grandparents growing up. A couple lived past 100. Both my grandfather's lived into their 90s. One of my grandmother's is in her 90s and the other is in her 90s. Yesterday my older grandmother was dancing with our 2 yo twins. She loves to walk along the river with the dogs every day. She plays the piano. She has a place in our lives and helped me through the loss of my son. My grandmother's are a reservoir of wisdom and I absorb as much as I can from them. Just like my grandfather's when they were around and my great-grandparents when they babysat me as a child. They knew which relationships to salvage and which to cut my losses. They explained the sunk cost fallacy back in the 1980s and saved me sticking it out in a sport that I wasn't enjoying anymore but didn't want to disappoint my parents. Unlike most species on the planet, humans live past reproductive usefulness because we have more intrinsic value to younger generations than just manual labor and childbirth. Try not to throw in the towel prematurely.
This is the best that television has ever gotten for me. I’m 60 years old now and I have outlived my wives and my daughters. Trust me when I tell you that this show will let you cry for everything you ever needed to cry for.
"You will not be forgotten." And so Lee passed a note through history for thousands of years until finally some entrepreneur decided to name their coffee shop Starbucks.
It's kinda sad how at the end, so many characters wind up alone. I don't blame Chief Tyrol for never wanting to see anybody again, though. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't either.
Even ten years after, this still gets me. The music, the journey's end, the stellar performance of actors playing wonderful characters we grew to love. Goodbye, Galactica. You won't be forgotten!
At Lanta We develop the same affection and connection to them that they have for each other. As sad as this ending is it still feels a bit hopeful as in everything is ok.
My late wife and I loved this series of BSG. We were together about 20 years. She got cancer in 2020 at the age of 39, died 5 months later in my arms. Was this a message she was telling me as well, her journey here was done. And then she was gone. I have cried so many days since she died. Hurt so much. Yet kept going. But was she wanting me to know this message as well?
@@martinm.1967 It wasn't a Deus Ex. The humans had their trial. They came to terms with their creation of life, god deemed them worthy of redemption and sent them a guide. Who brought them to a world with genetically compatible proto humans, to try again.
I got to meet Edward at the 2017 fan fest in Nashville. Along with Mary and Katie. I had never been to a sci-fi show before. At the age of 48, I wanted to have my picture with him because I knew that opportunity would most likely never come again. I really cherish my picture And this sci-fi series. It is quite a treasure.
And then he turned away, and when he turned back a few seconds later she was gone. Just gone. And all he was left with was memories, and in time even those would fade.
@@sartainja , true, but we humans need time to mourn our losses. To tell you the truth, I don't know which is worse...watching a loved one die a slow death (like cancer) or having them die suddenly and unexpectedly (like in a car accident). I'd be lying if I told you that I didn't cry...my thoughts were "Thanks for everything, Kara. I'll see you again someday."
@@TommyRibs , although my dad passed in 1997 and my mom in 2005 it still hurts, and it always will. You never really get over the loss of your parents, you just learn to live with it. That's why I don't agree with the philosophy that a child can't become what it's meant to be as long as its parents are alive, a philosophy espoused in BSG and by Kylo Ren.
@Spike Flea Yes, they threw it together, which was disappointing. I would have enjoyed a sequel playing off the future of the various groups as well as these to characters.
THAT WAS FREAKING SAAAAD... I feel so sorry for Lee. His father left, the love of his life left... Dualla's already on the other side... He has no one he loves now :( (But you know... This is one of the best scenes that made this series unforgettable)
It's far from sad. He's not thinking about any of that, he came to forgive and love his father, came to peace with the figth and Dualla, and now he wanna travel, he didn't even want Kara to be there with him, he's gonna accomplish himself. She leaves because her journey is over, but that includes supporting Lee which she don't need to do anymore.
for me - personally - this was a perfect ending for an epic story. The series was just coming to an end when my mother passed away. The character Laura Roslin had always reminded me of my mom - and then even more so when my mom died (of advance-stage lymphoma) only days after I saw the last episode. We love whom we love when we love them. It's as simple and as complicated as that. So say we all.
One of the greatest, and saddest endings to a series I have ever seen. All these years later it still holds its power. But then again the entire series still does.
I've been going back and forth over Adama's decision to just go off on his own trying to make sense of it. On one hand, it sort of makes sense because if he stayed with any group, he would end up being the leader by default whether he wanted to or not and he was tired of leading - many people lost their lives under his leadership, and whether or not it was his fault, he carried that guilt. Regarding him going off to be alone - he wasn't trying to start some new life by himself. That would be absolutely foolish and borderline suicidal, going to live alone in an unknown land with potential enemies and possibly dangerous wildlife, with nothing to defend or feed himself, only the clothes on his back and his bare hands. He was going off alone to wait to die. But what made no sense to me was him being willing to wash his hands and walk away from his son, along with Kara - whom he viewed as a daughter - and Tigh, his best friend of 40 years.
I've gone over it a thousand times, and the only kind of compromise I have is viewing it as a symbolic death. Kara vanishes. Roslin dies. Adama flies off to the rest of his life, to live on that hill alone in their cabin that is "Almost heavenly" besides her grave. Lee goes off to explore the planet. Everyone else left alive settles on earth and Lee could potentially see them again. They stood there, on earth together, they achieved their goal, but there is still death and sadness. Somehow it's ok though. That's the main message. Kara promised him that it would be ok and that Lee would love it. He had to let her go. Full circle
He didn't have nothing though. He obviously has tools, because he talks about constructing the cabin in his final scene. And he has a Raptor. More importantly he has the experience and intelligence to survive. He's a decorated officer of the colonial fleet, and worked his way up from being a grunt. There's a sub theme in the show about children not reaching their full potential while their parents are around. I think him leaving might have to do with that. Lee was always in his shadow. But the finale is so vague that it is anyone's guess. The one thing that truly pissed me off about the finale was that there was no Tigh/Adama farewell scene. That was needed. Those guys went through hell together. We need to see the extended cut of the ending some day. It exists.
"I want to explore! I want to climb the mountains, I want to cross the oceans, I want to die from appendicitis or an abscessed tooth or from some easily treatable illness, or maybe trip and break my ankle and die from starvation when I can't hunt for food."
Oh yeah! Living la vida loca! All that odyssey for this end .... sloppy writing in my opinion. Or a very depressed Director. Why all that ... for this, to die alone?
Every time I watch that scene, when Lee turns around and Starbuck has 'crossed to the other side', I just lose it. Sometimes we do meet Angels unawares. Whatever the writers, cast and crew got paid, it was never enough!
Sometimes even Angels do not realize what they have become until a certain point. I think for Kara it was when she managed to translate an old song into a path for Galactica to find New Earth. It took a bit of time from there for her to accept that she would have to leave Lee. But that doesn't mean she couldn't come back when he was ready to move on. Just for now, as she said, it was the first day of the rest of his life. Better he lived it while she lived her new life discovering the universe. When you think about it, she gained what Cavil always wanted. To be able to perceive Everything. To see Gamma Rays and hear X-Rays. If he hadn't been so impatient and needy, he could have realized that himself and learned how in time. But then, of course, Tyrol ultimately took that away from him as well.
She'd been on borrowed time since she reappeared in the mint condition Viper. Whatever higher agency was in action in the series sent her back, Gandalf the White style, to complete the task her original iteration couldn't when she burned in on Cylon-Earth. In essence, she was never really there.
@@Arbyfig Still a much better choice than what they went with. Although the charachter itself is just universe breaking anyway, still wouldve been a planet sized plothole in for almost every other movie.
The last series I watched fully with my Father, whom passed away a few weeks after we watched it. He really enjoyed the series, and he didn't like a lot of what was on tv.. funny, I can't watch anything BSG without thinking of him...
I always did have one question, and this is more real speculation than anything. When Adama deboarded the Raptor, and he said "I don't have much time". Was he really referring to just Laura? We were led to believe that in his haste, he was wanting to give Laura a look at the world she had helped find before she died. But what if that truly wasn't the whole picture? When William embraced his son Lee, it's like Lee knew it wasn't just Laura that was approaching the end, it was also his father as well. Lee and Kara knew that William (Admiral Adama) after his heart attack years before, would eventually come up again as they no longer had access to advanced medicine. So this was even more heartbreaking than just Lee not seeing his father for awhile. He knew he would never see him alive again. This was truly the end. And what made it so much worse, was that Lee knew there would be no dad, no Kara ever again. They were ALL saying goodbye at that moment. God what a sad ending!
Still here....still loving this show .... a gem in sci-fy history that truly deserves it....i still watch these wonderfull people and check what they are doing after this show .... forever in my heart
What do you hear Starbuck? Nothing but the rain. Grab your gun and bring in the cat This is the very first and last exchange of dialogue between Adama and Starbuck.
They (Adams) had such a strong connection and a love. Lee never knew what a great dad he had, but Starbuck did. Their trust was instinctive, he loved her like a daughter.
@ThirdWorldRider People often make that mistake but it’s definitely “cat.” It’s written in scripts, show notes, Ron Moore has said so, etc. It’s modeled after a rhythmic military chant and it’s not literal. Moore said there’s a deeper figurative meaning but never explain it. Fans got the basic gist/feeling of it w/o any explanation. The first time it’s said is NOT the Viper battle scene from the pilot. It’s just Adama & Starbucks walking in a halfway before the Cylon attack.
This is still depressing more than ten years later. Lee gets such a bad rap among fans and it’s because of the writers. They just had no clue what to do with him. Jamie Bamber deserved much better than he got after S2 and he still deserves better. I get where they were going, Lee’s finally his own man and he’s going to do what makes him happy but ultimately they left him alone. Adama basically abandons him forever and cements himself as a crappy father forever. Cool.
Damn this show. I finally got around to it recently and it's so incredibly emotional. I sat and cried the entire time feeling just devastated until the very end. My very favorite show now. I've already binged it two more times to pick up on what I missed the first time, and answers I needed. Such a frakking good show.
@xellossaxon Part of that can be attributed to Syfy VP in charge of programming, Mark Stern, who took over after NBC/Universal kicked Bonnie Hammer upstairs. Stern directed Moore and Eick to write more stand-alone episodes in Season 3 and less episodes having to do with the "we gotta find Earth" overall story arc. (i.e. "The Woman King") Season 4 was Moore and Eick playing catch-up after Stern informed them that S4 would be the last.
@xellossaxon I sort of agree with you. The plot was at times ridiculous. The characters were mostly horrible people (even the humans): Laura Rosslyn was a petty dictator and a terrible person, Adama was a tyrant, Kara was horrible. The love angst between Apollo and Starbuck was ridiculously overdone and not believable. About the only decent character was Helio. He actors themselves were good, though. And the final reveal ending was, I thought, very good (the end was NOT the Apollo Starbuck goodbye scene). The reveal that Hera was the mother of all modern humans, and that all modern humans are part cylon, was good. And that was "God's" entire plan. It orchestrated everything that happened in the series just for the specific purpose of getting Hera to that particular place, at that particular time. So she could be the progenitor of the humans of the "new Earth". Everyone and everything else (human & cylon alike) were only pawns to accomplish that goal.
🚲 I'm rewatching and I love this show for what it is. A decade old Scy-Fy production. So it not gonna be Game of Thrones. An almost all Canadian unknown cast (Olmos), a reasonable budget, good special effects but not great, I think the writing and acting pulled it off. My biggest complaint is there's no difference between our world and the long ago far away one of the Colonies. All the way down to their suits, and the name of their cigars(Cubans). So there's room for an expensive improvement one day.
I love this channel because I dont have to rewatch the entire series to relive my favorite moments. Although, it also makes me want to rewatch the entire series...
The 2000's were just friggin' awesome, minus 9-11 though... aside from this, everyone was great. TV Music, USA, school, hanging out and not being scared of getting shot up or dying suddenly because of the coof and fauci sauce. 2k was the way...
Just finished the series and I'm empty I'm so disappointed at the finale. I always interpreted the different characters making families with others they didn't truly love, out of convenience or lust, a result of their cylon/human programming, which Saul personified the most of all imo, whether it be by a first or former creator civilisation, and Kara and Lee's final getting together would represent the glitch in the proverbial matrix from which they as an unconventional, emergent Adam and Eve would represent true, emergent free will in their physical unification of humans and cylons against the first creator's paradoxical, artifical idea of cyclical, deterministic 'free will', which was to be repeated ad infinitum, as per the first humanoid civilisation's will. All could be a gigantic metaphor for people's struggle against their biological human programming, orthodoxy, and what makes them truly fulfilled.
Agreed. I’m glad they didn’t shy away from the idea that God or The Gods are real and Starbuck was a messenger or prophet of some sort. They didn’t cop out.
It was amazing show and a good ending. The only problem i have is none of it mattered. The flight across the universe, the extermination of the colonies, nothing. The whole theme of the series, "to run and start making babies", the fate of the human race demands it. Then when they are safe and on the ground, there is a whole new human race already there, established. None of it mattered.
From this point on, my eyes kept watering up for no apparent reason... Shows ending; saying goodbye; something jammed in my eye socket. The world will never know...
Like so many other fans....I miss this show Gods Dammit. After seeing this clip....hearing the wonderful music...brings me back to a better time. I have never rewatched BSG 2003 but I'm going to start from the beginning Thank you Ron D. Moore.....I'm enjoying your latest series....For All Mankind....
I was truly touched by this scene. I saw my darling Debbie off in a similar manner which brought me to tears yet again...thank you to all who made this series a wonderful landscape of emotions and connections. Regardless, I'm not a true SciFi fan but the original series featuring Canadian actor Lorne Greene as Admiral Adama, caught my attention. It was was pretty cool back then and loved how they created the Cylon Centurions' voices...I just wasn't paying attention the `meat' of the thing at the time. Well done everyone and thank you from the bottom of my heart...much love
Legendary TV show from back when TV show budgets were a sliver of what they are today. And somehow they managed to crank out 20 episodes per season, every year.
@@martinm.1967 You can be upset with Karas ending without hating the show. The series was good, just sucks they didn't flesh out or set up Starbuck being an angel, or whatever she became after she died.
@@martinm.1967 i just finished rewatching the show a couple days ago, and the deus ex machina/ religious stuff was definitely there from the beginning, it just became more overt in the later seasons.
I believe "Operation Milk The Franchise" is underway as we speak. I'll never watch a single moment of whatever they come up with. You can't improve on this.
My sentiment exactly. That few haunting moments after Kara's disappearance as Apollo realizes she had come back from the dead to guide them to Earth are what really made this scene beautiful.
Something that often gets overlooked is the underscore! Bear McCreary did a phenomenal job on the soundtracks. The studio didn't have to budget so greatly and it would have degraded the overall quality of the production. A masterpiece all around.
Most viewers concentrate on this Starbuck-Apollo thing as the ending to the series....and completely miss the mind blowing part where Hera Agathon is revealed to be the "Eve" progenitor of all humans on this Earth. Hera is a Cylon-Human Hybrid...so all humans living today are part Cylon....The Earth the 12 colonies came from was never our Earth. It happened before somewhere else ...and will happen again.
Yes. And that was "God's" entire plan. It orchestrated everything that happened in the series just for the specific purpose of getting Hera to that particular place, at that particular time. So she could be the progenitor of the humans of the "new Earth". Everyone and everything else (human & cylon alike) were only pawns to accomplish that goal.
@Ryan Hughes , it was a poignant ending...just when you think that you'll have all the time in the world the one you love dies. Adama lost Roslyn, Lee lost Kara.
I followed some of the series- but never saw this. I watched enough to come to be connected enough to the characters to find this moving. Time I think to seek out the entire final episode.
@@dreamer2260 They did them both an injustice IMHO, but especially Kara in my opinion. The 'angels' effectively induced her to end her life in the maelstrom in service to their agenda, and all she gets at the end is to just disappear into nothingness as if she never had existed. She should have been in the ending scene with head six and Baltar.
@Kenny Hill Yes you are quite right; the whole Kara-suicide and return as an angel was a complete disservice to her character and at odds with all her previous excellent development.
How can it be the only raptor if they had to transport everyone down to earth? Unless they only used one back and forth. Just another hole among many in the finale.
They never actually properly addressed the angels - and the angels themselves (at least head six and Baltar) never really addressed Kara, which I found to be a stunning lack of gratitude considering she actually willingly died in service of their agenda.
I loved the original Battlestar Galactica, this updated version took me a while to warm up to. But even from the beginning I realized that this was a darker and gritty re-telling of the story and frankly, more realistic in many ways. Its production standards were higher, much higher,.... and we got to see the journey all the way through. The original was fun,... but the re-do was better. Both through are wonderful story telling.
The ending with Lee just reinforces an idea that permeated the whole series - reality is not what you think it is. One mind boggling event after another.
Yoooo just finished watching the show for the first time today, all i was thinking was wow my boy Apollo just lost his love and his father, the poor dude is all alone!!!! I dont get why that had to be goodbye for Adama and Lee
@@GetterRay ha ha ha Just talking from a long time BSG fan. Thought they where making this Starbuck and Starbuck/Sheba mix. Always loved this story but its very limited in scope. Really can't do much with it, always thought an alternative Pegasus storyline to set up a very different world would give the story more flexibility. Or they never find Earth and create a whole new society.
@@GetterRay they both deserved better. They loved each other, yes, but they were like water and oil. But to answer the question, I think Kara was an angel, and here's why: at about :20 into the clip, right after Lee leaves the command ten, Kara follows, and looks almost pleadingly up at the sky, as if to say, "Please, God, just give me a few more minutes, OK?" So yes, I think she was what Leoben said she was: an Angel of God with a desire to lead her people home.
If Anders hadn't waltzed in and messed everything up everything would be fine!! Kara and Lee are obviously soul mates I quite literally cried because they couldn't be together and Kara's dead and lee will be alone forever NONE of my favorite characters got a happy ending
Well....maybe. On the other hand, since she almost married Zak, that makes them almost siblings. They're Apollo and Artemis, the twin children of Zeus. It being incestuous is what makes it kinda wrong. I love them together still.
They were like water and oil. They could occupy the same area together for a short while (and often did), but in the end, they were poison for each other.
@Vern Ripley they could have been good for each other of Kara had found a way to heal and get past her self destructiveness and Lee had worked through his self-esteem and insecurity issues. They should have been written in such a way that they helped each other with that because that’s the kind of thing that brings lovers together in real life. Anders was just an unfortunate distraction; he didn’t challenge Kara as a person, didn’t help her grow. Lee and Kara’s relationship and love was deeper and it was a tragedy (and imo a writing mistake) how it turned out.
@@dreamer2260 I felt the same way. I didn't dislike Sam. In fact, I liked that they made him a Cylon. Maybe I just think no one is good enough for Katee Sackhoff? 😊
I have always hated this ending. Lee lost his father and the love of his life---all in moments. Kara should have stayed with him, and wandered the new world with him. This is my one and only gripe about this show.
A perfect ending-in the end, everyone goes away. No one gets out of life alive. All you can hope for is to leave some part of yourself with someone who will cherish it, until it’s their time to go. Parents have to let go of their children, and in this last goodbye, Adama finally do that with his son- and children have to let go as well, as Lee did here. As for Kara, she finally was at peace- the long and strange trip that was her life finally at an end, with all questions answered and all obligations fulfilled. She got to say farewell to her true soul mate and then just slipped away. There are far worse epitaphs. Bear’s music makes you feel every word, every gesture with your own heartstrings. A great ending to a magnificent and under appreciated ( by the lack of Emmys) show.
They all died in the end because we fast forward 150,000 years but I like how Lee went exploring Baltar with 6 did farming Adama built his cabin Helo and Sharon raised there kid and so on.
All the other flaws of the finale aside, one thing I never understood is why Adama had to say goodbye to Lee and Starbuck. Like, was his cabin on another continent? Couldn't they visit from time to time? Wouldn't the admiral want to live near his son?
About to die? Jeez, Adama's not THAT old. The character can't have been older than mid-60s at this point, especially since they went to a lot of trouble to make Edward James Olmos look younger in the miniseries and first season. Wouldn't he have like, 15-20 good years left (at a minimum)? I mean, I don't know what life expectancy is like in BSG, but medical science seems about on par with today's technology.
It's because ADAMA was penetrated by Sol, and that was really the true meaning of his cylon reveal. Sol gave ADAMA cylon aids via bumjacking.....that's the point of all the stripper scenes in case you couldn't make sense of that either.
In the Prometheus novels some other Colonial survivors meet up with Lee. His father has been dead for a year. Meaning he died about a year after getting to Earth. Somehow Lee must have got his hands on a Raptor and met up with his father. His father and Starbuck both appear as angels to the Colonial General Conners that finds them.
I know this finale is a bit polarizing and I'll admit there are some flaws with it, but I always liked this scene, both from how the characters get to say goodbye to it also going back to Ronald Moore's past work on Star Trek. For as much as Battlestar tried to go in the opposite direction as Trek, from being a grim and gritty military war story compared to a new age space utopia (Minus STD and STP), in the end it has Lee embracing it's most basic and optimistic ideals in wanting to explore and seek out new things.
I am 77. We only have what is the present. My wife died ten years ago next month after a very long illness. She is always with me, just a little more faded each year. I choose to smile at her being away... I understand the hard parts and cherish the happy parts and wait for my own passing. It was good to get to touch the end of this series. It will always be the best fiction ever written and acted out. One more door door softly closed. Thank you for sharing. Adieu.
Lots left to do.
I am 44. I lost my third child to cancer almost 4 years ago at barely 12 years old. We respect the many years he missed out on and go out and do those things we wish he had a chance to do.
77 isn't the end fora lot of people. I had 3 great-grandparents growing up. A couple lived past 100. Both my grandfather's lived into their 90s. One of my grandmother's is in her 90s and the other is in her 90s. Yesterday my older grandmother was dancing with our 2 yo twins. She loves to walk along the river with the dogs every day. She plays the piano. She has a place in our lives and helped me through the loss of my son. My grandmother's are a reservoir of wisdom and I absorb as much as I can from them. Just like my grandfather's when they were around and my great-grandparents when they babysat me as a child. They knew which relationships to salvage and which to cut my losses. They explained the sunk cost fallacy back in the 1980s and saved me sticking it out in a sport that I wasn't enjoying anymore but didn't want to disappoint my parents.
Unlike most species on the planet, humans live past reproductive usefulness because we have more intrinsic value to younger generations than just manual labor and childbirth.
Try not to throw in the towel prematurely.
It is somthing you get used to, but never get over.
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
This is the best that television has ever gotten for me. I’m 60 years old now and I have outlived my wives and my daughters. Trust me when I tell you that this show will let you cry for everything you ever needed to cry for.
I felt this comment in my soul
A yt comment has never hit me so hard.
I'm sorry for your losses.
aww i sniffled a bit just reading that.
Bro your comment... dang I felt it immensely brother. I gotta put these onions away...
"You will not be forgotten."
And so Lee passed a note through history for thousands of years until finally some entrepreneur decided to name their coffee shop Starbucks.
Genius :D
Maybe that entrepreneur found Starbucks grave marker made by Lee in Africa.
@@Jayjay-qe6um so u mean all peach people brought evil nylon to earth
First mate on the Pequod
@@imflome7932 hahahahhahaha. Peach people. I’m done. Thanks for making me laugh with that comment. Stay safe. So say we all
It's kinda sad how at the end, so many characters wind up alone.
I don't blame Chief Tyrol for never wanting to see anybody again, though. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't either.
That's what made this sci-fi series so great. It's about real life. As we age, we lose many friends and connections that once made life so vibrant.
There is never enough time to say goodbye to those we love.
So she's a fracking angel. Deus Ex Machina ruined the finale.
@@martinm.1967 unknown. she was clearly something else. Angel is as good a definition as any I suppose.
Here, in matter, density with materialite beliefs. And yet, we have plenty of time for eternity, fortunately.
Memento mori, that’s why every time I depart someone’s company I make sure to depart on the best possible terms
@@martinm.1967 I don't think she was an angel, but she was something else.
Even ten years after, this still gets me. The music, the journey's end, the stellar performance of actors playing wonderful characters we grew to love.
Goodbye, Galactica. You won't be forgotten!
So say they all! 😊
At Lanta We develop the same affection and connection to them that they have for each other. As sad as this ending is it still feels a bit hopeful as in everything is ok.
Wow, has it been that long?
They are rebooting it
@@craigharris41 reboot ?
When I watch this I'm always "dammit Lee! don't stop looking at her! She can't mysteriously disappear if you keep staring at her! DON'T BLINK!"
I still feel like come what may, they'll always be connected.
Starbuck's actually a Weeping Angel. Doctor Who crossover confirmed!
@@Windupchronic lol my thinking too 😁
@@Windupchronic Same thought :-D
He should have given her a tight hug before he answered her, just in case. I would have 😍
My late wife and I loved this series of BSG. We were together about 20 years. She got cancer in 2020 at the age of 39, died 5 months later in my arms. Was this a message she was telling me as well, her journey here was done. And then she was gone. I have cried so many days since she died. Hurt so much. Yet kept going. But was she wanting me to know this message as well?
Don't you have real friends to discuss this with?
@@AndyBluebear Cold.
@ But true.
I watched the ending the day before meeting Eward James Olmos in person, I was almost in tears, he was a very kind person.
So she's a fracking angel. Deus Ex Machina ruined the finale.
@@martinm.1967 Eh. I liked it.
for you maybe. @@martinm.1967
@@martinm.1967 It wasn't a Deus Ex. The humans had their trial. They came to terms with their creation of life, god deemed them worthy of redemption and sent them a guide. Who brought them to a world with genetically compatible proto humans, to try again.
I got to meet Edward at the 2017 fan fest in Nashville. Along with Mary and Katie. I had never been to a sci-fi show before. At the age of 48, I wanted to have my picture with him because I knew that opportunity would most likely never come again. I really cherish my picture And this sci-fi series. It is quite a treasure.
And then he turned away, and when he turned back a few seconds later she was gone. Just gone. And all he was left with was memories, and in time even those would fade.
spaceflight101 At least he had his memories even though they may be faded and worn.
@@sartainja , true, but we humans need time to mourn our losses. To tell you the truth, I don't know which is worse...watching a loved one die a slow death (like cancer) or having them die suddenly and unexpectedly (like in a car accident).
I'd be lying if I told you that I didn't cry...my thoughts were "Thanks for everything, Kara. I'll see you again someday."
spaceflight101
I lost my dad in a morning and mom over five years.
They both hurt the same.
@@TommyRibs , although my dad passed in 1997 and my mom in 2005 it still hurts, and it always will. You never really get over the loss of your parents, you just learn to live with it.
That's why I don't agree with the philosophy that a child can't become what it's meant to be as long as its parents are alive, a philosophy espoused in BSG and by Kylo Ren.
Oh c'mon. You know you want to say it... like tears in rain.
Man I loved this fracking show
crashk55 SO SAY WE ALL.
@Spike Flea Yes, they threw it together, which was disappointing. I would have enjoyed a sequel playing off the future of the various groups as well as these to characters.
Minus Karl urban's ex missus katee sackoff
THAT WAS FREAKING SAAAAD... I feel so sorry for Lee. His father left, the love of his life left... Dualla's already on the other side... He has no one he loves now :(
(But you know... This is one of the best scenes that made this series unforgettable)
So she's a fracking angel. Deus Ex Machina ruined the finale.
@@martinm.1967 What? We were practically told, that original Starbuck was dead all over that season and that this one is magic.
I never thought about that before. Poor guy
It's far from sad.
He's not thinking about any of that, he came to forgive and love his father, came to peace with the figth and Dualla, and now he wanna travel, he didn't even want Kara to be there with him, he's gonna accomplish himself. She leaves because her journey is over, but that includes supporting Lee which she don't need to do anymore.
You mean so frackin sad
for me - personally - this was a perfect ending for an epic story. The series was just coming to an end when my mother passed away. The character Laura Roslin had always reminded me of my mom - and then even more so when my mom died (of advance-stage lymphoma) only days after I saw the last episode. We love whom we love when we love them. It's as simple and as complicated as that. So say we all.
Nice comment, nice thoughts! Thx for sharing!
Cliff Vegas iiiin
So Say We All
Cliff Vegas So say we all.
Cliff Vegas sorry to hear but you have a great outlook.
Duala: Shoots self
Dad: Takes off
Starbuck: Goes poof
That Lee Adama sure is an unlucky guy...
Joss Whedon would just say that the percentage of people who die in reality is pretty high.
Everything Lee touches disappears.
Blackbird: Destroyed
Pegasus: Kamikaze'd
Duala: Dead
Dad: Out for milk
Starbuck: Incognito
@@Mobius_118 ...and I forgot about his brother.
Dont forget Lee's pregnant girlfriend on Caprica that was seen in flashback in the 'Black Market' episode, who died from the Cylon attack.
@@usul573 in long term, is 100%
Time is shorter than we think- cherish your loved ones.
I remember tearing up watching the series finale. So many ups and downs along the way.and the characters evolved in many unexpected ways.
I still do each time I watch this
I love this scene, but this video should have ended about 5 seconds later with Lee's, "Goodbye, Starbuck."
I was just about to add that. Good call.
Have to agree.
390 seconds of buildup and then cuts seconds too soon. Aasagh.
Yes the sudden BANG killed the entire video.
They did the scene in an open field just so no one could say that 'Oh she's hiding behind that tree' or things like that. :)
Badly edited, guys. Why end this clip so abruptly? Come on, another 10 seconds to see the end of the scene, for the love of the Gods.
What does it matter, it sucks.
So say we all
Quit bitching and go watch the show if you dont like it..
@@kennethfharkin ua-cam.com/video/0la5DBtOVNI/v-deo.html
@@l.c.2247 no u
One of the greatest, and saddest endings to a series I have ever seen. All these years later it still holds its power. But then again the entire series still does.
So she's a fracking angel. Deus Ex Machina ruined the finale.
@@martinm.1967are you a bot or just a severely obsessed weirdo? How many comments did you reply to just to say that?
Way to make a grown man bawl his eyes out. Never fails
I've been going back and forth over Adama's decision to just go off on his own trying to make sense of it. On one hand, it sort of makes sense because if he stayed with any group, he would end up being the leader by default whether he wanted to or not and he was tired of leading - many people lost their lives under his leadership, and whether or not it was his fault, he carried that guilt.
Regarding him going off to be alone - he wasn't trying to start some new life by himself. That would be absolutely foolish and borderline suicidal, going to live alone in an unknown land with potential enemies and possibly dangerous wildlife, with nothing to defend or feed himself, only the clothes on his back and his bare hands. He was going off alone to wait to die.
But what made no sense to me was him being willing to wash his hands and walk away from his son, along with Kara - whom he viewed as a daughter - and Tigh, his best friend of 40 years.
I've gone over it a thousand times, and the only kind of compromise I have is viewing it as a symbolic death. Kara vanishes. Roslin dies. Adama flies off to the rest of his life, to live on that hill alone in their cabin that is "Almost heavenly" besides her grave. Lee goes off to explore the planet. Everyone else left alive settles on earth and Lee could potentially see them again. They stood there, on earth together, they achieved their goal, but there is still death and sadness. Somehow it's ok though. That's the main message. Kara promised him that it would be ok and that Lee would love it. He had to let her go. Full circle
He didn't have nothing though. He obviously has tools, because he talks about constructing the cabin in his final scene. And he has a Raptor. More importantly he has the experience and intelligence to survive. He's a decorated officer of the colonial fleet, and worked his way up from being a grunt.
There's a sub theme in the show about children not reaching their full potential while their parents are around. I think him leaving might have to do with that. Lee was always in his shadow. But the finale is so vague that it is anyone's guess.
The one thing that truly pissed me off about the finale was that there was no Tigh/Adama farewell scene. That was needed. Those guys went through hell together.
We need to see the extended cut of the ending some day. It exists.
same questions here.... and still not concrete answer.
I think he was just tired...he new his days were numbered and lost his will to live
It's called shoddy writing. There isn't always a sensible answer when the plot was written by extremely fallible humans
Katie Sackhoff nailed the emotion of this scene. Knowing she has to go but wanting to stay and know there’s nothing she can do about it.
She looks up and has that look. I'm sure it was impromptu by her, but that look just says, "Give me just a little bit more time, please."
"I want to explore! I want to climb the mountains, I want to cross the oceans, I want to die from appendicitis or an abscessed tooth or from some easily treatable illness, or maybe trip and break my ankle and die from starvation when I can't hunt for food."
Oh yeah! Living la vida loca!
All that odyssey for this end .... sloppy writing in my opinion. Or a very depressed Director. Why all that ... for this, to die alone?
Every time I watch that scene, when Lee turns around and Starbuck has 'crossed to the other side', I just lose it. Sometimes we do meet Angels unawares. Whatever the writers, cast and crew got paid, it was never enough!
@Reluctant Human * tips fedora *
Sometimes even Angels do not realize what they have become until a certain point. I think for Kara it was when she managed to translate an old song into a path for Galactica to find New Earth. It took a bit of time from there for her to accept that she would have to leave Lee.
But that doesn't mean she couldn't come back when he was ready to move on. Just for now, as she said, it was the first day of the rest of his life. Better he lived it while she lived her new life discovering the universe.
When you think about it, she gained what Cavil always wanted. To be able to perceive Everything. To see Gamma Rays and hear X-Rays. If he hadn't been so impatient and needy, he could have realized that himself and learned how in time. But then, of course, Tyrol ultimately took that away from him as well.
She'd been on borrowed time since she reappeared in the mint condition Viper. Whatever higher agency was in action in the series sent her back, Gandalf the White style, to complete the task her original iteration couldn't when she burned in on Cylon-Earth. In essence, she was never really there.
She should have been Captain Marvel.
Nah, I think even with her, the resources given to her will hold her down
She would have been great Captain Marvel
She was a Great Count Ibis
@@Arbyfig Still a much better choice than what they went with. Although the charachter itself is just universe breaking anyway, still wouldve been a planet sized plothole in for almost every other movie.
Absolutely 😊
Would've been an upgrade IMO
This was my favorite show of all time. It had a great beginning, journey and a satisfying ending.
The last series I watched fully with my Father, whom passed away a few weeks after we watched it. He really enjoyed the series, and he didn't like a lot of what was on tv.. funny, I can't watch anything BSG without thinking of him...
This goodbye coupled with Baltar's redemption always brings a tear.
I always did have one question, and this is more real speculation than anything. When Adama deboarded the Raptor, and he said "I don't have much time". Was he really referring to just Laura? We were led to believe that in his haste, he was wanting to give Laura a look at the world she had helped find before she died. But what if that truly wasn't the whole picture?
When William embraced his son Lee, it's like Lee knew it wasn't just Laura that was approaching the end, it was also his father as well. Lee and Kara knew that William (Admiral Adama) after his heart attack years before, would eventually come up again as they no longer had access to advanced medicine. So this was even more heartbreaking than just Lee not seeing his father for awhile. He knew he would never see him alive again. This was truly the end. And what made it so much worse, was that Lee knew there would be no dad, no Kara ever again. They were ALL saying goodbye at that moment. God what a sad ending!
I love Katie Sackhoff. On screen or off, she is so sweet.
When she got the role she was so excited she told her dad and her dad laughed at her because Starbuck was a guy in the original lol
She seems like a neat person
Katie made a perfect live action Bo Katan in The Mandalorian… this is the way.
Such a great show, with a bitter sweet end.
Cuz it’s a bittersweet symphony that’s life 😉
Still here....still loving this show .... a gem in sci-fy history that truly deserves it....i still watch these wonderfull people and check what they are doing after this show .... forever in my heart
What do you hear Starbuck?
Nothing but the rain.
Grab your gun and bring in the cat
This is the very first and last exchange of dialogue between Adama and Starbuck.
They (Adams) had such a strong connection and a love. Lee never knew what a great dad he had, but Starbuck did. Their trust was instinctive, he loved her like a daughter.
cag
@ThirdWorldRider People often make that mistake but it’s definitely “cat.” It’s written in scripts, show notes, Ron Moore has said so, etc. It’s modeled after a rhythmic military chant and it’s not literal. Moore said there’s a deeper figurative meaning but never explain it. Fans got the basic gist/feeling of it w/o any explanation.
The first time it’s said is NOT the Viper battle scene from the pilot. It’s just Adama & Starbucks walking in a halfway before the Cylon attack.
Love this exchange between them
@@AndTheRoadGoesEverOn starbuck was jogging
This is still depressing more than ten years later. Lee gets such a bad rap among fans and it’s because of the writers. They just had no clue what to do with him. Jamie Bamber deserved much better than he got after S2 and he still deserves better. I get where they were going, Lee’s finally his own man and he’s going to do what makes him happy but ultimately they left him alone. Adama basically abandons him forever and cements himself as a crappy father forever. Cool.
Damn this show. I finally got around to it recently and it's so incredibly emotional. I sat and cried the entire time feeling just devastated until the very end. My very favorite show now. I've already binged it two more times to pick up on what I missed the first time, and answers I needed. Such a frakking good show.
Best show ever imho! I still watch the whole series once a year, and enjoy it every time!!
May I suggest FARSCAPE? You'll love it.
@@sqa6368 people have told me that before! I guess that's my next step
Have watched the series so many times and it's my favourite show of all time. Still brings me to tears when I watch this.
Yup, as much as I hate to say it I ball my eyes out every time. Even just watching this clip got me!
One one of the most overlooked sci fi dramas of all time.
@xellossaxon Bad acting? Are you on crack?
@xellossaxon Part of that can be attributed to Syfy VP in charge of programming, Mark Stern, who took over after NBC/Universal kicked Bonnie Hammer upstairs. Stern directed Moore and Eick to write more stand-alone episodes in Season 3 and less episodes having to do with the "we gotta find Earth" overall story arc. (i.e. "The Woman King") Season 4 was Moore and Eick playing catch-up after Stern informed them that S4 would be the last.
@xellossaxon I sort of agree with you. The plot was at times ridiculous. The characters were mostly horrible people (even the humans): Laura Rosslyn was a petty dictator and a terrible person, Adama was a tyrant, Kara was horrible. The love angst between Apollo and Starbuck was ridiculously overdone and not believable. About the only decent character was Helio.
He actors themselves were good, though. And the final reveal ending was, I thought, very good (the end was NOT the Apollo Starbuck goodbye scene).
The reveal that Hera was the mother of all modern humans, and that all modern humans are part cylon, was good. And that was "God's" entire plan. It orchestrated everything that happened in the series just for the specific purpose of getting Hera to that particular place, at that particular time. So she could be the progenitor of the humans of the "new Earth". Everyone and everything else (human & cylon alike) were only pawns to accomplish that goal.
🚲 I'm rewatching and I love this show for what it is. A decade old Scy-Fy production. So it not gonna be Game of Thrones.
An almost all Canadian unknown cast (Olmos), a reasonable budget, good special effects but not great, I think the writing and acting pulled it off.
My biggest complaint is there's no difference between our world and the long ago far away one of the Colonies. All the way down to their suits, and the name of their cigars(Cubans).
So there's room for an expensive improvement one day.
Pretty sure it wasn't overlooked. It won a Peabody many Emmy's and a bunch of ther sci-fi awards inclufing a Hugo I think.
I love this channel because I dont have to rewatch the entire series to relive my favorite moments.
Although, it also makes me want to rewatch the entire series...
75 episodes of awesomeness
Man, they did a good job with this series. But I suffered melancholia after this episode.
You could see how much they loved each other, it was really sweet.....fantastic acting on both of the actors!!!.
Just rewatched this whole series. Lovely show.
What a beautiful scene. A truly amazing show with depth and heart
Apparently, after a long journey like Galactica's, the last thing people want to do is spend time with family and friends.
It’s very subjective
@@Zedul Tyrol had someone he would have spent the rest of his life with. Had.
Or start over and have families and build a new society.
What a great end to a long journey. The spirit of Admiral Adama is indomitable.
Was a perfect ending to one of the best shows ever on television.
With all their story lines, it was just short of a miracle they could wrap it up this quick.
Kinda glad they didn’t drag it out it could have gotten stale very quickly. 4 seasons and two movies Razor and The Plan is good enough.
"Whaddya hear, Starbuck?"
I had it together until right then.
the Admiral see's Starbuck as his daughter
That's why he forgave her for Zack's death, this much was never in doubt.
Just one of the best shows ever on tv beginning to end.
Best tv show, yes. How about being the best narrative ever? Best among films, novels, plays, and TV series. So Say We All!
Each and every person in this series has so many layers. Masterful writing and acting.
This and stargate made everything amazing in 2000 onwards
Sci-fi channel in the 2000’s were the best of times
@@Howyaduing the expanse is keeping 2010-2020 scifi great
@@michelghorayeb9950 ya that’s true
@@michelghorayeb9950 Its back must hurt from carrying the genre
The 2000's were just friggin' awesome, minus 9-11 though... aside from this, everyone was great. TV Music, USA, school, hanging out and not being scared of getting shot up or dying suddenly because of the coof and fauci sauce. 2k was the way...
I don't give a frak what anyone says - this was a very satisfying finale. Wish we'd gotten the few more seconds for Lee to finish saying goodbye.
So say we all!
Just finished the series and I'm empty I'm so disappointed at the finale. I always interpreted the different characters making families with others they didn't truly love, out of convenience or lust, a result of their cylon/human programming, which Saul personified the most of all imo, whether it be by a first or former creator civilisation, and Kara and Lee's final getting together would represent the glitch in the proverbial matrix from which they as an unconventional, emergent Adam and Eve would represent true, emergent free will in their physical unification of humans and cylons against the first creator's paradoxical, artifical idea of cyclical, deterministic 'free will', which was to be repeated ad infinitum, as per the first humanoid civilisation's will. All could be a gigantic metaphor for people's struggle against their biological human programming, orthodoxy, and what makes them truly fulfilled.
Agreed. I’m glad they didn’t shy away from the idea that God or The Gods are real and Starbuck was a messenger or prophet of some sort. They didn’t cop out.
@@Hoganply Good insight. Yes, there's much more to follow if anyone would care to put up the time and money.
It was amazing show and a good ending. The only problem i have is none of it mattered. The flight across the universe, the extermination of the colonies, nothing. The whole theme of the series, "to run and start making babies", the fate of the human race demands it. Then when they are safe and on the ground, there is a whole new human race already there, established. None of it mattered.
From this point on, my eyes kept watering up for no apparent reason... Shows ending; saying goodbye; something jammed in my eye socket. The world will never know...
I wish I can watch this for the first time all over again...
Ditto! Cried me a river that day, thankfully I was watching it alone.....🥲
Like so many other fans....I miss this show Gods Dammit. After seeing this clip....hearing the wonderful music...brings me back to a better time. I have never rewatched BSG 2003 but I'm going to start from the beginning Thank you Ron D. Moore.....I'm enjoying your latest series....For All Mankind....
I was truly touched by this scene. I saw my darling Debbie off in a similar manner which brought me to tears yet again...thank you to all who made this series a wonderful landscape of emotions and connections. Regardless, I'm not a true SciFi fan but the original series featuring Canadian actor Lorne Greene as Admiral Adama, caught my attention. It was was pretty cool back then and loved how they created the Cylon Centurions' voices...I just wasn't paying attention the `meat' of the thing at the time. Well done everyone and thank you from the bottom of my heart...much love
Legendary TV show from back when TV show budgets were a sliver of what they are today. And somehow they managed to crank out 20 episodes per season, every year.
Some archaeologist is going to be pretty surprised when they find one of those 150,000 year old planes.
@@JohnDoe-de3km The space ships. They were still flying the aircraft around.
Those planes are sitting in some government warehouse, next to the Ark of the Covenant.
After that time nothing would be left.
@@fourthhorseman4531 TOP. MEN.
@@fourthhorseman4531 самое смешное что это может оказаться правдой
i got to admit, this was a great series!
So she's a fracking angel. Deus Ex Machina ruined the finale.
@@martinm.1967 You can be upset with Karas ending without hating the show. The series was good, just sucks they didn't flesh out or set up Starbuck being an angel, or whatever she became after she died.
@@martinm.1967 i just finished rewatching the show a couple days ago, and the deus ex machina/ religious stuff was definitely there from the beginning, it just became more overt in the later seasons.
One of my favorite endings of a series. The entire show was executed to perfection. I hope they never attempt a reboot.
The original did not end right. This gave the series the proper good bye.
@jamesamos9, Regrettably, one's in process.
I believe "Operation Milk The Franchise" is underway as we speak. I'll never watch a single moment of whatever they come up with. You can't improve on this.
Thanks for posting but, as James O'Connell posted, the clip ended too soon. You should re-upload it through "Goodbye, Kara. You won't be forgotten."
My sentiment exactly. That few haunting moments after Kara's disappearance as Apollo realizes she had come back from the dead to guide them to Earth are what really made this scene beautiful.
Best drama in television history.
The saddest, most heartwrenching part in this whole show, was watching Galactica take her final journey into the sun.
The first time I watched this show and at the end had this empty feeling, like I felt lost and without hope. Without a doubt best TV show ever made
In a few decades, we will find out what comes first, terminators, matrix, or cylons(AI Rise of the machines).
This show was such an emotional train wreck for me but that's why I love it so much..
So she's a fracking angel. Deus Ex Machina ruined the finale.
Something that often gets overlooked is the underscore! Bear McCreary did a phenomenal job on the soundtracks. The studio didn't have to budget so greatly and it would have degraded the overall quality of the production. A masterpiece all around.
Such a bittersweet ending.
Most viewers concentrate on this Starbuck-Apollo thing as the ending to the series....and completely miss the mind blowing part where Hera Agathon is revealed to be the "Eve" progenitor of all humans on this Earth. Hera is a Cylon-Human Hybrid...so all humans living today are part Cylon....The Earth the 12 colonies came from was never our Earth. It happened before somewhere else ...and will happen again.
Correct.
Yes. And that was "God's" entire plan. It orchestrated everything that happened in the series just for the specific purpose of getting Hera to that particular place, at that particular time. So she could be the progenitor of the humans of the "new Earth". Everyone and everything else (human & cylon alike) were only pawns to accomplish that goal.
@Ryan Hughes , Roslyn passed away with Adama by her side as they were figuring out where they were going to live, IIRC.
@Ryan Hughes , it was a poignant ending...just when you think that you'll have all the time in the world the one you love dies. Adama lost Roslyn, Lee lost Kara.
All of the 12 Colonists are Cylons, they just forgot.
Would rather they all just live together as a community.
My love for BSG and Starbuck is eternal💖
Farewell Kara😢
Bitter bitter sweet ending, what a great show this was and still is.
I followed some of the series- but never saw this. I watched enough to come to be connected enough to the characters to find this moving. Time I think to seek out the entire final episode.
I don’t like that this was Lee’s last scene. I feel like we needed a more meaningful goodbye scene for him. This was more of a goodbye scene for Kara
I agree. They did him an injustice here.
@@dreamer2260 They did them both an injustice IMHO, but especially Kara in my opinion.
The 'angels' effectively induced her to end her life in the maelstrom in service to their agenda, and all she gets at the end is to just disappear into nothingness as if she never had existed.
She should have been in the ending scene with head six and Baltar.
@Kenny Hill Yes you are quite right; the whole Kara-suicide and return as an angel was a complete disservice to her character and at odds with all her previous excellent development.
I wonder what happened to Adama's Raptor? It was the last relic of the Colonial Fleet.
Maybe we'll find it one day :D
where did the free cylons w/ the one basestar go?
Maybe they found the Star Wars galaxy.
How can it be the only raptor if they had to transport everyone down to earth? Unless they only used one back and forth. Just another hole among many in the finale.
Maybe some of the larger ships landed(we know several can), offloaded people, then took off to fly into the sun?
Yea me too I been wondering that too
So people were cool with Starbuck even though she admitted she found her own corpse on earth. Lee's like "Yay, my coworker is an angel or demon".
Lee doesn't care. It's him and Kara. Nothing else matters. He knows it is her in his bones.
rofl ha ha
She was Starbuck the White. The Gods of Kobol took her back into The West.
...and then she gets in a viper and leads them to earth. a fucking ghost
They never actually properly addressed the angels - and the angels themselves (at least head six and Baltar) never really addressed Kara, which I found to be a stunning lack of gratitude considering she actually willingly died in service of their agenda.
I loved the original Battlestar Galactica, this updated version took me a while to warm up to. But even from the beginning I realized that this was a darker and gritty re-telling of the story and frankly, more realistic in many ways. Its production standards were higher, much higher,.... and we got to see the journey all the way through.
The original was fun,... but the re-do was better. Both through are wonderful story telling.
Jeepers! It ended too soon! A couple more seconds would have made for a more dramatic impact!
You mean a couple more seasons. :)
Poor lee
I think James meant the actual video above.
Indeed. Worse cut in history of youtube.
Where can i find episodes for free online
Damn, I loved this series so much.
One of my favorite shows top 5
The ending with Lee just reinforces an idea that permeated the whole series - reality is not what you think it is. One mind boggling event after another.
Yoooo just finished watching the show for the first time today, all i was thinking was wow my boy Apollo just lost his love and his father, the poor dude is all alone!!!! I dont get why that had to be goodbye for Adama and Lee
Nathaniel Strangman where did you find the episodes
Tim48367 i bought them on bluray
It was always going to be that type of show
It's a little easier if you remember that the show creators compared Adama to God, Lee to the son, and Kara as the Holy Spirit.
But he gained a new life of exploration.
Her spirit is finally free, her mission completed. What A Ending. An end to all conflicts with the cylons and a new beginning to humanity.
In case there is any confusion, the finish to Lee's sentence is "I must be cray, cray."
I thought it was 'fish'
Starbuck is an Angel. In the beginning of the clip she looks up because she knows G-d is calling Roslin home
She's not an Angel that's impossible she has tramp stamp tattoos
really wanted Lee and Starbuck to be together in the end
They were.
Starbuck only got a short second pass before she had to move on her body was found on Earth
Lee deserved better.
@@GetterRay ha ha ha Just talking from a long time BSG fan. Thought they where making this Starbuck and Starbuck/Sheba mix.
Always loved this story but its very limited in scope. Really can't do much with it, always thought an alternative Pegasus storyline to set up a very different world would give the story more flexibility.
Or they never find Earth and create a whole new society.
@@GetterRay they both deserved better. They loved each other, yes, but they were like water and oil. But to answer the question, I think Kara was an angel, and here's why: at about :20 into the clip, right after Lee leaves the command ten, Kara follows, and looks almost pleadingly up at the sky, as if to say, "Please, God, just give me a few more minutes, OK?"
So yes, I think she was what Leoben said she was: an Angel of God with a desire to lead her people home.
This scene still breaks me...........just the hurt he felt, the utter loneliness!
If Anders hadn't waltzed in and messed everything up everything would be fine!! Kara and Lee are obviously soul mates I quite literally cried because they couldn't be together and Kara's dead and lee will be alone forever NONE of my favorite characters got a happy ending
Well....maybe. On the other hand, since she almost married Zak, that makes them almost siblings. They're Apollo and Artemis, the twin children of Zeus. It being incestuous is what makes it kinda wrong. I love them together still.
They were like water and oil. They could occupy the same area together for a short while (and often did), but in the end, they were poison for each other.
The addition of Anders always felt forced and artificial to me. The writers would have been far better focusing on Lee and Kara’s relationship.
@Vern Ripley they could have been good for each other of Kara had found a way to heal and get past her self destructiveness and Lee had worked through his self-esteem and insecurity issues. They should have been written in such a way that they helped each other with that because that’s the kind of thing that brings lovers together in real life. Anders was just an unfortunate distraction; he didn’t challenge Kara as a person, didn’t help her grow. Lee and Kara’s relationship and love was deeper and it was a tragedy (and imo a writing mistake) how it turned out.
@@dreamer2260 I felt the same way. I didn't dislike Sam. In fact, I liked that they made him a Cylon. Maybe I just think no one is good enough for Katee Sackhoff? 😊
They would all die off, be killed, and would not survive alone
I have always hated this ending. Lee lost his father and the love of his life---all in moments. Kara should have stayed with him, and wandered the new world with him.
This is my one and only gripe about this show.
Lee was the one who could handle it though, out of everyone - he understood best how to live without the others (rather than the other way around)
How could she? She was dead. the Force only resurrected her long enough so that way she could guide the humans and cyclons to their last chance.
Same
@Eric Cartman Don't you mean cylon piece of ass.
@Eric Cartman lol
One of or was the best Sci Fi / Drama series ever on tv. Still so many unanswered questions.
A perfect ending-in the end, everyone goes away. No one gets out of life alive. All you can hope for is to leave some part of yourself with someone who will cherish it, until it’s their time to go. Parents have to let go of their children, and in this last goodbye, Adama finally do that with his son- and children have to let go as well, as Lee did here. As for Kara, she finally was at peace- the long and strange trip that was her life finally at an end, with all questions answered and all obligations fulfilled. She got to say farewell to her true soul mate and then just slipped away. There are far worse epitaphs. Bear’s music makes you feel every word, every gesture with your own heartstrings. A great ending to a magnificent and under appreciated ( by the lack of Emmys) show.
So she's a fracking angel. Deus Ex Machina ruined the finale.
They all died in the end because we fast forward 150,000 years but I like how Lee went exploring Baltar with 6 did farming Adama built his cabin Helo and Sharon raised there kid and so on.
this has all happened before and will all happen again
All the other flaws of the finale aside, one thing I never understood is why Adama had to say goodbye to Lee and Starbuck. Like, was his cabin on another continent? Couldn't they visit from time to time? Wouldn't the admiral want to live near his son?
The implication is that he too, is tired and knows he is about to die but didn't know how to say goodbye to either his son or his surrogate daughter.
About to die? Jeez, Adama's not THAT old. The character can't have been older than mid-60s at this point, especially since they went to a lot of trouble to make Edward James Olmos look younger in the miniseries and first season. Wouldn't he have like, 15-20 good years left (at a minimum)? I mean, I don't know what life expectancy is like in BSG, but medical science seems about on par with today's technology.
It's because ADAMA was penetrated by Sol, and that was really the true meaning of his cylon reveal.
Sol gave ADAMA cylon aids via bumjacking.....that's the point of all the stripper scenes in case you couldn't make sense of that either.
He's popping pills in the last season and has gained an alcohol problem, their is undercurrent that Admiral Adama is an unwell man.
In the Prometheus novels some other Colonial survivors meet up with Lee. His father has been dead for a year. Meaning he died about a year after getting to Earth. Somehow Lee must have got his hands on a Raptor and met up with his father. His father and Starbuck both appear as angels to the Colonial General Conners that finds them.
What a great show.
Gods Dammit I Frackin' loved this show!!!
One of the if not THE greatest scenes ever on tv.
"Lee I don't feel so good"
*raptured*
Hahahaha
Beamed up?
BSG is the best SCiFi drama ever. This is not just a space opera but high drama!
I know this finale is a bit polarizing and I'll admit there are some flaws with it, but I always liked this scene, both from how the characters get to say goodbye to it also going back to Ronald Moore's past work on Star Trek. For as much as Battlestar tried to go in the opposite direction as Trek, from being a grim and gritty military war story compared to a new age space utopia (Minus STD and STP), in the end it has Lee embracing it's most basic and optimistic ideals in wanting to explore and seek out new things.
I also liked the fact they played elements of the old Battlestar theme song as the Galactica went into the sun.
Yeah, I cry every time I watch this episode.