@@christophejergales7852 you are aware that this was a edited clip from an old episode over 20 years ago right?? It's not new by any means but as much better than the motorweek that we see now..
@@NismoDJ20 Yep. They had the same 4v DOHC 4.6L V-8 engine as the 99' Cobras. Power outputwas 305 iirc. A buddy of mine in high school had a father who owned the local Ford/Mercury/Lincoln dealership and he drove a new car off the lot every day. We tore around in brand new Mach 1's relatively often. I remember his favorite being the Mercury Marauder that had tjw same 4v 4.6L; at the time I didn't understand how cool those things actually were. These too.
@@georgecarlin2097 yeah man, a guy down the street as a marauder. It needs a ton of trim work done and new seats, but it's only at like 40k Mike's. Told him I'd help him if he wanted to restore. The same issue I had with my old 03 cobra. All the exterior plastic trim and window seals were shot. Easy fix though.
@@bandwagon240 it was a cool car. I don't know what to do did for a living but he always had bad ass cars. I remember he had a bullet mustang I think it was an 08 that had a Whipple supercharger on it.
@@TheBikemaster94 I don't know we didn't really talk to him much my mom didn't like him cuz he do burnouts at the end to cul-de-sac and would have all his friends over drinking in the driveway a loud ass Harley-Davidsons every single weekend, But that's the reason why me and all my friends loved him lol.
I usually don’t like the overdone styling of the Roush Mustangs, but this one looks pretty good. The rear end is a clean design that is a nice change from a standard GT rear end.
many people shit on Ford and mustangs in particular but you can deny the amount of aftermarket support and tuning houses welcomed with open arms by ford themselves, and they have historically been lenient towards the consumer modifying their cars themselves, you can't fault them for that
yes but whatever how much you put in those, its deceiving compared to other cars, its weak, engines are too heavy, too much moving parts, car feels like a sedan more than a pure sport car, only subaru makes cars that are worst overall, the only reason why people still buy those its because they did not had the money to buy when they were young and mustangs were cool back then, so they live their old dream when turning 60, and its the cheapest sport car available, like a mcdo cheeseburger will always sell even if it taste like cardboard...
Thats because the stock Ford parts are so bad they are thankful the aftermarlet makes better ones that dont fail - save them alot of warranty claims for failed ford parts.
Same here! I saw one at the dealer back then, and the price was staggering even back then!! Now they’re even way more expensive if you can find one for sale! And in mint condition!
I've always been partial to the Roush tuning arm. I love their boldness, and modern aggression design style. They make limited edition, drag/Street beasts. It's accessible rarity.if you own one.
I can't be the only one thinking that a 13.5 quarter mile time is pretty weak for a 350 horsepower car. On a side note, by deepest condolences to the MotorWeek family. R.I.P., Pat Goss. 😢
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 GMHTP tested a '99 into the 12.80s. Others have claimed 12.60s with bone stock down to the tires '01-'02 cars. By far the most impressive pony cars of their day.
All you guys make great points. That's true. I think Motor Trend listed the '99 Mustang GT at 5.2 0-60- but I think this was either under very favorable conditions and/or bribe incentive. The latter being more likely. Those were 260 HP [factory claim]. Common for those to dyno at 212 to the wheels. With another 80+ horsepower only .1 faster 0-60? I think 350 HP at the crank on a new edge would do 1/4 mile in 13.2 or better with a good driver.
You could get a 66 GT350 with a Paxton supercharger. The 03 Cobra was the first from the factory Ford Mustang with a blower. Saleen, Roush, Shelby, etc...are aftermarket. Still great cars though.
Roush isn't factory its modified by roush after it leaves factory like Saleen. THE terminator was built by Ford at the Ford factory and it was the first done that way with a blower. There were blower cars from tuners long before this. Saleen and Shelby had done it.
Having owned a 2001 Roush Stage 3, I can tell you these performance numbers from Motorweek are incorrect. Car & Driver in their 2001 June 1 article tested a stage 3 mustang with these numbers: 0-60 - 4.3 sec's, 1/4 mile at 12.9 sec's, 164 mph top speed, and .91 lateral grip. Motor trend articles also from this time confirm these numbers. Motorweek conservatively tests cars. The early roush stage 3 mustangs were raw, fun cars.
They have went as fast as 13.7 at 101 bone stock. Wasn't the fastest car in its category but it certainly wasn't slow either. Mustangs have always been about the aftermarket and still are. It's not about what they do stock its what they can so with minor tweaks.
Guys watch the front of the car starting at the time stamp 2:29. The hood isn't latched and looks like it's about to pop up. That could make for an interesting review. The car handles well and has ample horses to get that race car feel...Now, let's see how it fares crashing into a tree. ;) Addendum- Every racer wanted a run...back in 2003 I was daily driving my 2002 Firehawk Trans-Am w/6-speed. You damn right I would have challenged him.
I found me a 04 mustang GT automatic dark shadow gray in 2014 and been driving it every day now it is 2022 and still have gentle fun with it he’ll I don’t want to mess it up or dog it out because this car help me to save a ton of money and i have chrome bullit deep dish wheels staggered from America muscular
I just noticed the engine they showed wasn't a Roush Supercharged 4.6 it was a NA motor. I wonder since they didn't have HP and TQ numbers if the final production SC wasn't finished or if this wasn't really a Stage 3 or a Stage 3 without a SC
There’s a supercharger buried in the middle of that 4.6 2 valve, it was a roush/ford racing design similar to the previous SVO supercharger offered in the ford parts catalog for the previous sn95
I remember seeing the gorgeous 2000 SVT Cobra R at my local Brondes Ford dealership when I was 13 years old! I asked my dad if we could go down there to look at that beautiful car. I still have pictures of me standing next to it when it was brand new back then. Mustangs used to look so damn good until 2015 when they got that ugly ass restyle!
@@RallyLancer95 People should be blindly nostalgic if the company continues to produce trash citing environmental issues....Mach e, Lightning, Maverick, Mustang ecoboost and so on.
@@amitmitra6487 ; Environmental issues have hamstrung the auto industry since the late 1960's. Personally, I think the mach e should've been called the Pinto.
This is one example on what FoMoCo had and still has over GM even when the GM has certain advantages like the cheap modification ability of the LSx platform engines and stellar stock out of the box handling like the Alpha Platform cars like Camaro and Caddy CT-5 Blackwing. Ford is so damn aftermarket tuner friendly hence able to make up the difference and sell much tuner products through Ford stealerships, I mean dealerships with factory warranties.
@CPAJayhawk maybe barely wouldn't be by much. There are better mustangs to compare like 03 Mach even the 96-01 cobras went mid 13s at 105 give or take.
What is a Rousch Mustang? Is it really a "genuine article" if it's misspelled? I always was amused that these with a supercharger weren't any faster than the V8 4th Gen F body from that era. It's so funny that pony cars from this era had to have a manual transmission to be any fun but now the automatic transmissions are faster than the manuals and just as fun to drive.
I have had 5 4th Gen F bodies all V8 cars, four were 6 speed and one was an auto because a manual bright blue metallic manual is impossible to find. I did find one in Indiana, I tried to buy it but someone beat me to it before I could fly up to buy it. I am going to swap my RCSB Silverado over from a Procharged Gen 3 LS and 4L80E to a Gen 4 LSA and Tremec 6060 from a ZL1/CTS-V. But these new 8 and 10 speed automatics and DCTs are faster and more consistent but the manuals will always be more fun.
@@turbojetpowered8299 thanks for the insight. Have a 99 Camaro SS 6 spd convertible (driving in my profile pic). Runs consistent low 13's with 100k on the clock. Love that LS1!
This would be the beginning idea for Ford Engineers to create the Terminator Cobra a few years later with its Dohc 4.6L supercharged...great video of when horsepower was making a come back...
1:33 Yeah I doubt that it had just 350 HP, when it's running a 13s and SVT model had more horsepower than that.... yeah I'm definitely not buying that horsepower number they put out lol
@@turbojetpowered8299 Keep in mind this was a pre-production mule. In '01 Car and Driver tested a Roush Stage 3 and got a 4.3 0-60 and a 12.9s quarter @ 111mph which are quicker and just as quick as an '03 Cobra tested back in the day. Motorweek drag strip numbers usually fall a few tenths behind MT and C&D. Also power numbers were finalized at 360hp 375tq for production.
@@turbojetpowered8299 this exactly... C&D ran 12.7 @ 111mph with the Stage 3 and iirc the Mach 1 tapped 12.9 or 13.0 in stock form with 107 traps. The 350 number is probably pretty close to accurate given the weight.
I consider always having watched Motorweek growing up as having been a real privilege. Reviews like this did not really take hold until many years later for other car MSM>
Yeah. The LS1 Fbodies were quite ahead of these. I had a 2005 Pontiac GTO Comp G and at the drag strip, these GT's couldn't keep up especially with a novice driver. Sad.
@@angelgjr1999 Not as 'bad-ass' either. UA-cam is full of Mustang drivers spinning out and hitting people and hurting themselves as well. I like the 87-93 Mustang but if I ever bought one that suspension would need an overhaul. Those Ford factory suspensions are 'sus'.
@@byronhamilton6061 I know, that's why I made the comment I did. So if he had that motor it wasn't a real Cobra, a Mustang with Cobra badges and his friend claimed it was a real Cobra. Or he's wrong on the motor.
Not bad. I have a completely stock 2007 roush stage 3 with 427hp in yellow it drives like a c6 corvette but with more comfortable relaxed seating position. Wanting to sell for a new roush jackhammer or maybe a c7 z06.
Horsepower estimates on the conservative side? A 2002 Mustang Cobra tested by car and Driver hit 60mph in 4.8s and flew through the quarter at an identical 13.5s. The 2002 Cobra had 320hp.
Funny how those acceleration numbers are quite the same as the 3v 4.6! Weight distribution advantage from the newer aluminum engine? (Helping weight transfert/better tire hooking?)
Although going up steep hills and wind filled expressways doesn't help. Those smaller engines particularly anything under 2.5 cylinders are horrible. You need a v6 for sure nowadays
sad to see that Johnathon davis was wrong and this was a stage 2 not 3, there was no roots supercharger in the engine shot,nor can you hear a roots supercharger and also the stage 3 has a different bigger airdam bumper.
No not in 2000. 2004 was when the exceptional cobra R was put out. The 2004 "terminator" had a 4 valve 4.6 with blower. Was excellent car. In 2000, although same body style (new edge) the cobra that year I believe only came with a 4.6 that was a 4 valve. Correct me if I'm wrong but I ebelive that was it. Which was a modest 300ish hp. Those cars struggled to get under 6 second 0 to 60. This stage 3 was a pretty different animal
This thing is like a Cobra R V2 Replica with a Supercharger lmao, I’d definitely drive this thing everyday! The look and sound alone is what I’m paying for 😎
I still want a 03 or 04 Cobra, Roush, Saleen, Mustang of this generation. But even a base model V6 Mustang 1999-2004 to start off with will do, then upgrade parts from there until it reaches some nice power from it.
@@greatestnitemare6626 : One can always swap in better engine and other needed parts to make it even better than ever before, let's say for example the V8 from a Crown Vic. that has the back end damaged bad, but all is ok at the front end.
@@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 Then get a GT. It's the better platformer. Also I'd take the V8 from the Crown Vic, which is exactly what is in the GT over those garbage V6's. Those V6's were trash. You can swap in all you want, but in the end you bought a V6 for some reason, even though it sucks. They were lousy cars and their gas mileage sucks. The only reason you should EVER get a V6 Mustang is if you're young and can't afford the more expensive V8 Mustang insurance, which is understandable. But if you're 25+ why the f would you buy those garbage V6 Mustangs? They were terrible platformers on an outdated ass essex 3.8 engine
@@greatestnitemare6626 : Those generation Mustangs are hard to find today, so I would consider getting the V6 and doing the swap. And if the V6 is as bad as you have claimed, then it should not be worth very much due to that bad rep, for the V6.
To add, the Coyote is a descendant of the Modular V8 used in this 2000 Roush Mustang. The technology to control detonation is the key to today's engines being able to run compression ratios similar to the muscle car hey day of the late 60s. All aluminum construction, multi-valves, highly efficient combustion chambers, variable valve timing, efficient production tolerances, etc.. Remember too, a modern engine makes those big numbers at "peak" efficiency(ideal weather conditions, highest octane fuel available, etc.). Just like in the old days when getting your muscle car "super-tuned" to extract every HP available, modern cars need their ECUs to have access to ideal conditions to perform the same way.
@@padistedor From my understanding, the Gen 2 Coyote is basically a 2012-2013 Boss 302 in it's tuning and improvements over the Gen 1 Coyote. The Gen 3 is the Coyote that has larger pistons, a higher compression ratio and other improvements to make it's nearly 50+ HP over the Gen 1 engine. TBH, any Gen Coyote is a pretty sweet engine, loves to rev, gets decent MPG for it's output. Enjoy your 2016!
Take note!!! You have to be a pro to drive a Ford Miustang. The power is so strong it confuses drivers during shifts. Basically they cant keep up. So when you see a Mustang lose a race by a small margin then you can probably guess the driver lost control of that stallion!!!!
I had a friend at work who had a N/A 4.6 of this Era and claimed he had 700 horsepower because it was bored out to a 5.2. I always called BS. He was one of those guys whos car was never running right. Anyone in the comments reading this did NA 4.6's have 700 HP potential without a Turbo/Supercharger?
@@nutz4gunz457 lol it was a kid at my job. He just got one of these new egde Mustangs. It was loud as hell, no muffler or cats. I just made a video about this topic. Car guy lies are funny. The new Z06 is making 700 horsepower and that's a modern car with all the latest technology and this dude had a New Edge with 700 HP NA allegedly lol
A 4.6 2 valve stroked to 5.0 or 5.3 cams and all the bolt ons possible (n/a) it’s probably in the 400 flywheel hp range, comparable to a first gen coyote but in a light platform like this new edge could make a quick little car, boosted that’s another thing
I had a 97 Cobra and with a Supercharger the claim was 440 HP according to American Muscles Website. That's why I always questioned my friend saying his NA was 700 HP
First off, the engine shown is NOT supercharged and this is most likely just a stage 2. Second, regardless of what car it may or may not be, that hood is not latched at 2:31 lol
I love these older reviews. The music, the effects and of course John Davis!! Absolutely perfect!!!! 😇😎👍
@@Mr.FirebIadeDr.JiIIAIiceCooper exactly. It's just not the same anymore..
I don't know what you guys are talking about. This video was made last week.
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I agree LTJohn It's like a trip to the past. Nevermind these kids comments. 😂
@@christophejergales7852 you are aware that this was a edited clip from an old episode over 20 years ago right?? It's not new by any means but as much better than the motorweek that we see now..
@@LTJohn Holy crap. This might be the biggest "whoosh" I have ever witnessed.
These cars sounded great. Wouldn't mind finding one that someone had forgotten about.
Shouldn't be hard these Mustangs were extremely forgettable. Except the Terminator and Cobra R.
@@chesspiece81Mach 1s are pretty nice as well
@@NismoDJ20 Yep. They had the same 4v DOHC 4.6L V-8 engine as the 99' Cobras. Power outputwas 305 iirc. A buddy of mine in high school had a father who owned the local Ford/Mercury/Lincoln dealership and he drove a new car off the lot every day. We tore around in brand new Mach 1's relatively often. I remember his favorite being the Mercury Marauder that had tjw same 4v 4.6L; at the time I didn't understand how cool those things actually were. These too.
@@chesspiece81 don't forget the Saleens as well. S281 SC and the S351 as well. (SN95)
@@georgecarlin2097 yeah man, a guy down the street as a marauder. It needs a ton of trim work done and new seats, but it's only at like 40k Mike's. Told him I'd help him if he wanted to restore. The same issue I had with my old 03 cobra. All the exterior plastic trim and window seals were shot. Easy fix though.
love these old school 99-04 “newedge” mustang reviews! proud to own a 14,000 original mile 03 GT. these cars are becoming hard to find in good shape!
I agree. New edge for life. I've had an 04 GT since new with about 17000 on it. Love my car
@@Ryan-yj6nb They are a good looking car!
@@Ryan-yj6nb 17k miles? It’s barely breaking in. Mine has 152k miles and drivers great.
Go out and drive it! 14k miles is way too low!!!
@@lanegunnell1218 i do! I bought it with 11,400 2 years ago. In the summer i drive it as much as I can
My neighbor had one of these when I was about 14 years old. Dude had a mark 8 with 32 valve cobra in it too.
The DOHC 4.6 in the mk8 pre-dated the Cobra.
@@bandwagon240 it was a cool car. I don't know what to do did for a living but he always had bad ass cars. I remember he had a bullet mustang I think it was an 08 that had a Whipple supercharger on it.
@@robertstone9988 maybe he was a boss at a retail store, I remember in 2013 my manager had a modern GTO with the 6.0
@@TheBikemaster94 I don't know we didn't really talk to him much my mom didn't like him cuz he do burnouts at the end to cul-de-sac and would have all his friends over drinking in the driveway a loud ass Harley-Davidsons every single weekend, But that's the reason why me and all my friends loved him lol.
@@Mr.FirebIadeDr.JiIIAIiceCooper my bad it's voice to text I should proofread
I usually don’t like the overdone styling of the Roush Mustangs, but this one looks pretty good. The rear end is a clean design that is a nice change from a standard GT rear end.
“ A touch of noise dive” 🤣🤣🤣. Still badass Stang.
this aired just 6 days before i was born. makes me want one even more now
2:29 someone took it out for a lap without latching the hood closed.
I had to scroll too far for this! Lmao
Damn good eye you have. I had to go watch it again to see for myself. Lol.
Love those older hidden roots style blowers
Lol
many people shit on Ford and mustangs in particular but you can deny the amount of aftermarket support and tuning houses welcomed with open arms by ford themselves, and they have historically been lenient towards the consumer modifying their cars themselves, you can't fault them for that
yes but whatever how much you put in those, its deceiving compared to other cars, its weak, engines are too heavy, too much moving parts, car feels like a sedan more than a pure sport car, only subaru makes cars that are worst overall, the only reason why people still buy those its because they did not had the money to buy when they were young and mustangs were cool back then, so they live their old dream when turning 60, and its the cheapest sport car available, like a mcdo cheeseburger will always sell even if it taste like cardboard...
@@retrocompaq clearly you don’t have a clue about mustangs then
Imagine being so spoiled. I would kill for a car like that.
Thats because the stock Ford parts are so bad they are thankful the aftermarlet makes better ones that dont fail - save them alot of warranty claims for failed ford parts.
@@mariovalla3909 he doesn't know about Subaru either.
I grew up watching this show back in the day
Glad to see it coming back.
I would love to have a Cobra R from this year.
Same here! I saw one at the dealer back then, and the price was staggering even back then!! Now they’re even way more expensive if you can find one for sale! And in mint condition!
Damn that exhaust tune is glorious!!! Still a great car even 22 years later. I love my Mustangs no matter what!!
I've always been partial to the Roush tuning arm. I love their boldness, and modern aggression design style. They make limited edition, drag/Street beasts. It's accessible rarity.if you own one.
I couldn’t afford a stage 3 roush in 2013 but I bought a base model GT then added a phase 1 supercharger with roush tune. I also drive it everyday.
I love ❤️ these retro review videos, I never knew what I was missing.
When car magazines and channels oozed coolness!
I remember reading about this in motor trend and dreaming about owning it one day.
And now you dream about not owning it lol. $5 gas and insurance premiums are no fun.
The interior is what kills it for me. It's utter garbage. Outside? Beautiful
2022 and I would still rock it now, it's a beaut.
1:04 I was expecting to see a screw type supercharger from Rousch atop that engine. Was that a stock pic?
I think they just reused stock footage for under the hood.
The blower and intake is built together, ita kinda under the intake. Look at the pulley below the alternator pulley, thats the supercharger pulley 😉
@@banneddamn nice 👍👍
It’s a hidden supercharger so the cops won’t bug you. 👍
@@angelgjr1999wtf. Cops don't bother you for a supercharger. Lol
I can't be the only one thinking that a 13.5 quarter mile time is pretty weak for a 350 horsepower car.
On a side note, by deepest condolences to the MotorWeek family.
R.I.P., Pat Goss. 😢
Every New Edge Mustang, including the 03-04 Cobra, had disappointing stock performance.
Yeah. Weren't bone stock LS1 Camaro/Trans Am dipping into the 12's? I remember even a Ford magazine testing one and they admitted it went 12's.
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 GMHTP tested a '99 into the 12.80s. Others have claimed 12.60s with bone stock down to the tires '01-'02 cars. By far the most impressive pony cars of their day.
All you guys make great points. That's true. I think Motor Trend listed the '99 Mustang GT at 5.2 0-60- but I think this was either under very favorable conditions and/or bribe incentive. The latter being more likely. Those were 260 HP [factory claim]. Common for those to dyno at 212 to the wheels. With another 80+ horsepower only .1 faster 0-60? I think 350 HP at the crank on a new edge would do 1/4 mile in 13.2 or better with a good driver.
It's called they can't drive it trapped 104. Da was prob shit I've seen stock 01 mustang gt go 13.7 at 101stock with a good driver in good air.
Man that mustang still looks and sounds great!👌🥰👍
I thought the 2003 cobra was the first sn95 with a blower, didn't know roush did it first
For sure! I think the Saleen mustang as well.
@@marvi1515 Yep! Saleen had the S281 (4.6L V-8 w/ or w/I supercharger) and the S351 (5.8L V-8 w/ or w/o supercharger) even earlier than 2000.
From ford factory, yes the 03 cobra. From non factory ford, saleen in 94 in sn95s. They were doing it even further back in fox bodies.
You could get a 66 GT350 with a Paxton supercharger. The 03 Cobra was the first from the factory Ford Mustang with a blower. Saleen, Roush, Shelby, etc...are aftermarket. Still great cars though.
Roush isn't factory its modified by roush after it leaves factory like Saleen. THE terminator was built by Ford at the Ford factory and it was the first done that way with a blower. There were blower cars from tuners long before this. Saleen and Shelby had done it.
Having owned a 2001 Roush Stage 3, I can tell you these performance numbers from Motorweek are incorrect. Car & Driver in their 2001 June 1 article tested a stage 3 mustang with these numbers: 0-60 - 4.3 sec's, 1/4 mile at 12.9 sec's, 164 mph top speed, and .91 lateral grip. Motor trend articles also from this time confirm these numbers. Motorweek conservatively tests cars. The early roush stage 3 mustangs were raw, fun cars.
I remember seeing these at the dealership wow time flies!
Love this Roush! Makes some beautiful sounds. LOVE this REVIEW! THANKS MOTORWEEK!
good memories..love the 1999-2004 mustang..
I had a 2000 GT 5-speed. It was fun and affordable, but if I'm being honest, it wasn't very fast even by that time's standards.
They have went as fast as 13.7 at 101 bone stock. Wasn't the fastest car in its category but it certainly wasn't slow either. Mustangs have always been about the aftermarket and still are. It's not about what they do stock its what they can so with minor tweaks.
Thank you motor week
Guys watch the front of the car starting at the time stamp 2:29. The hood isn't latched and looks like it's about to pop up. That could make for an interesting review. The car handles well and has ample horses to get that race car feel...Now, let's see how it fares crashing into a tree. ;)
Addendum- Every racer wanted a run...back in 2003 I was daily driving my 2002 Firehawk Trans-Am w/6-speed. You damn right I would have challenged him.
I found me a 04 mustang GT automatic dark shadow gray in 2014 and been driving it every day now it is 2022 and still have gentle fun with it he’ll I don’t want to mess it up or dog it out because this car help me to save a ton of money and i have chrome bullit deep dish wheels staggered from America muscular
I just noticed the engine they showed wasn't a Roush Supercharged 4.6 it was a NA motor. I wonder since they didn't have HP and TQ numbers if the final production SC wasn't finished or if this wasn't really a Stage 3 or a Stage 3 without a SC
There’s a supercharger buried in the middle of that 4.6 2 valve, it was a roush/ford racing design similar to the previous SVO supercharger offered in the ford parts catalog for the previous sn95
It is a supercharger looks like the Ford Racing the one from the parts catalog which is not that great
@@turbojetpowered8299 looks like the one without the intercooler
Beautiful Mustang! Some details like side exhaust, front bumper and spoiler, really fits great.
I remember seeing the gorgeous 2000 SVT Cobra R at my local Brondes Ford dealership when I was 13 years old! I asked my dad if we could go down there to look at that beautiful car. I still have pictures of me standing next to it when it was brand new back then. Mustangs used to look so damn good until 2015 when they got that ugly ass restyle!
Get your eyes checked LMAO
I just ran a 13.6 in my n/a 2014 v6 mustang lol Love this car though. Crazy how far performance has come.
Your v6 would get gapped bythis car in the real world with a good driver behind the wheel. Can't compare different tracks diff days diff drivers.
@@midnight347 probably. It's still crazy how far performance has come.
Great looking car. This looks far modern and better than the current version.
Exactly
One of the best thing about watching these retro reviews is reading the comments from people blinded by nostalgia
@@RallyLancer95 People should be blindly nostalgic if the company continues to produce trash citing environmental issues....Mach e, Lightning, Maverick, Mustang ecoboost and so on.
@@amitmitra6487 ; Environmental issues have hamstrung the auto industry since the late 1960's. Personally, I think the mach e should've been called the Pinto.
@@cobracharmer6178 Agreed.... Lightning should have been named something else.
Wonder how many bystanders that thing has killed.
Prob 0 unless it found its way into the hand of a noob like you then it might have crashed. Come up with something new follower.
This is one example on what FoMoCo had and still has over GM even when the GM has certain advantages like the cheap modification ability of the LSx platform engines and stellar stock out of the box handling like the Alpha Platform cars like Camaro and Caddy CT-5 Blackwing. Ford is so damn aftermarket tuner friendly hence able to make up the difference and sell much tuner products through Ford stealerships, I mean dealerships with factory warranties.
Well the base Z28 in 2000 was probably faster than this stage 3 car, so there’s that
@CPAJayhawk maybe barely wouldn't be by much. There are better mustangs to compare like 03 Mach even the 96-01 cobras went mid 13s at 105 give or take.
@@CPAJayhawkThe actual numbers for a roush stage 3 are 0-60 in 4.3 and 12.9 in the quarter.. A catfish is not swimming that fast..
I’d love to have this new edge
Car looks sick! Love the New Edge mustangs. 😁This one came supercharged pre terminator... Imagine owning one? 😅
What is a Rousch Mustang? Is it really a "genuine article" if it's misspelled? I always was amused that these with a supercharger weren't any faster than the V8 4th Gen F body from that era. It's so funny that pony cars from this era had to have a manual transmission to be any fun but now the automatic transmissions are faster than the manuals and just as fun to drive.
@Charlie B Sounds like an old woman in an automatic walked you.
Yes the automatic is faster but no it isn't more fun to drive. Nothing beats rowing gears.
I have had 5 4th Gen F bodies all V8 cars, four were 6 speed and one was an auto because a manual bright blue metallic manual is impossible to find. I did find one in Indiana, I tried to buy it but someone beat me to it before I could fly up to buy it. I am going to swap my RCSB Silverado over from a Procharged Gen 3 LS and 4L80E to a Gen 4 LSA and Tremec 6060 from a ZL1/CTS-V. But these new 8 and 10 speed automatics and DCTs are faster and more consistent but the manuals will always be more fun.
@Charlie B Wait...now it's for 18 year olds? How many different people driving automatic transmission cars have left you in the dust?!
@3:13
Close that hood before it slaps the windshield 😂🤦♂️
When they show the engine bay compartment there was no supercharger on that engine? So was this a stage 3 or not?
I don’t live to far from Roush headquarters. They usually have car show in summer and you can check out some of Jack Roush collection of cars.
So all those mods and it barely accelerates a couple tenths faster than the same year LS1 Camaro/Firebird?
@@turbojetpowered8299 thanks for the insight. Have a 99 Camaro SS 6 spd convertible (driving in my profile pic). Runs consistent low 13's with 100k on the clock. Love that LS1!
This would be the beginning idea for Ford Engineers to create the Terminator Cobra a few years later with its Dohc 4.6L supercharged...great video of when horsepower was making a come back...
1:33 Yeah I doubt that it had just 350 HP, when it's running a 13s and SVT model had more horsepower than that.... yeah I'm definitely not buying that horsepower number they put out lol
@@turbojetpowered8299 Keep in mind this was a pre-production mule. In '01 Car and Driver tested a Roush Stage 3 and got a 4.3 0-60 and a 12.9s quarter @ 111mph which are quicker and just as quick as an '03 Cobra tested back in the day. Motorweek drag strip numbers usually fall a few tenths behind MT and C&D. Also power numbers were finalized at 360hp 375tq for production.
@@turbojetpowered8299 this exactly... C&D ran 12.7 @ 111mph with the Stage 3 and iirc the Mach 1 tapped 12.9 or 13.0 in stock form with 107 traps. The 350 number is probably pretty close to accurate given the weight.
Crazy how mid/mild performance cars now would destroy this car. Performance in cars has been evolving so quickly
Body kit looks good.
I consider always having watched Motorweek growing up as having been a real privilege. Reviews like this did not really take hold until many years later for other car MSM>
Supercharged stage 3 mustang… almost as fast at a v6 Buick turbo made over a decade earlier.
Great.
Yeah. The LS1 Fbodies were quite ahead of these. I had a 2005 Pontiac GTO Comp G and at the drag strip, these GT's couldn't keep up especially with a novice driver. Sad.
I’ll still take a mustang over any government motors car.
@@angelgjr1999 Mustangs look nice, but they're a casket on wheels. Good luck!
@@tmo2798 Not as bad as vipers lol.
@@angelgjr1999 Not as 'bad-ass' either. UA-cam is full of Mustang drivers spinning out and hitting people and hurting themselves as well. I like the 87-93 Mustang but if I ever bought one that suspension would need an overhaul. Those Ford factory suspensions are 'sus'.
Optional ABS, that still blows my mind
Oh yeah new edge mustangs didn’t have traction control. You had to get the “premium edition” to get it. Luckily mine has it.
A friend of mine had a cobra with that engine. Damn fast. DAMN fast
Cobras had a 4 valve DOHC not this engine. Both 4.6 but different engines
He didn't have a Cobra with that motor. Maybe a Mustang with Cobra badges or you're mistaken on the engine.
@@chesspiece81 actual cobras only came with the 4 valve not the 2 valve
@@byronhamilton6061 I know, that's why I made the comment I did. So if he had that motor it wasn't a real Cobra, a Mustang with Cobra badges and his friend claimed it was a real Cobra. Or he's wrong on the motor.
@@chesspiece81 oh yeah I gotcha haha
Felt amusing watching the whole video being a new edge lover
Not bad. I have a completely stock 2007 roush stage 3 with 427hp in yellow it drives like a c6 corvette but with more comfortable relaxed seating position. Wanting to sell for a new roush jackhammer or maybe a c7 z06.
Roush mustangs are one of the greatest type of mustangs made.
I'd love to have one
Horsepower estimates on the conservative side?
A 2002 Mustang Cobra tested by car and Driver hit 60mph in 4.8s and flew through the quarter at an identical 13.5s. The 2002 Cobra had 320hp.
I believe you mean an 03 Cobra. As there was not 02 Cobra in the States.
I saw a grey one just a couple days ago. I didn't know if it was a v6 or v8 lol
there is a Kenny bell quarter horse for sale by me 1 of 4 ever made really low miles like 13k I really want it 1995 420hp est ....vortech 302
Funny how those acceleration numbers are quite the same as the 3v 4.6!
Weight distribution advantage from the newer aluminum engine? (Helping weight transfert/better tire hooking?)
Although going up steep hills and wind filled expressways doesn't help. Those smaller engines particularly anything under 2.5 cylinders are horrible. You need a v6 for sure nowadays
It's just bad driving bad weather prob. Traction limited. In the real world I'd gaurantee this car will pull a 3v stock for stock...
A touch of nose dive my ass! The front fascia was about an inch off the ground during that braking test.
Owned a silver 2003 Jack Roush Classic...#35 of 50. Bought July 4th weekend in 2004.
lol 3:12 you can see the hood latch popped open, if have to literally slam mine shut so i know
sad to see that Johnathon davis was wrong and this was a stage 2 not 3, there was no roots supercharger in the engine shot,nor can you hear a roots supercharger and also the stage 3 has a different bigger airdam bumper.
Didn't the SVT COBRA have higher numbers (Torque & HP), and better Handling? 🤔
No not in 2000. 2004 was when the exceptional cobra R was put out. The 2004 "terminator" had a 4 valve 4.6 with blower. Was excellent car.
In 2000, although same body style (new edge) the cobra that year I believe only came with a 4.6 that was a 4 valve. Correct me if I'm wrong but I ebelive that was it. Which was a modest 300ish hp. Those cars struggled to get under 6 second 0 to 60. This stage 3 was a pretty different animal
"Just a touch of nose dive" as the rear end lifts higher than a new F150 Raptor lol still would love to own one of these, though.
This thing is like a Cobra R V2 Replica with a Supercharger lmao, I’d definitely drive this thing everyday! The look and sound alone is what I’m paying for 😎
2:30
Someone forgot to shut the hood 😂
I still want a 03 or 04 Cobra, Roush, Saleen, Mustang of this generation.
But even a base model V6 Mustang 1999-2004 to start off with will do, then upgrade parts from there until it reaches some nice power from it.
Those V6's were trash. Don't waste money.
@@greatestnitemare6626 : One can always swap in better engine and other needed parts to make it even better than ever before, let's say for example the V8 from a Crown Vic. that has the back end damaged bad, but all is ok at the front end.
@@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 Then get a GT. It's the better platformer. Also I'd take the V8 from the Crown Vic, which is exactly what is in the GT over those garbage V6's. Those V6's were trash. You can swap in all you want, but in the end you bought a V6 for some reason, even though it sucks.
They were lousy cars and their gas mileage sucks. The only reason you should EVER get a V6 Mustang is if you're young and can't afford the more expensive V8 Mustang insurance, which is understandable. But if you're 25+ why the f would you buy those garbage V6 Mustangs? They were terrible platformers on an outdated ass essex 3.8 engine
@@greatestnitemare6626 : Those generation Mustangs are hard to find today, so I would consider getting the V6 and doing the swap.
And if the V6 is as bad as you have claimed, then it should not be worth very much due to that bad rep, for the V6.
@@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 No they’re not. They are a dime a dozen
Go for it but you’re just pissing away money
Still a very beautiful car to my 40 year old eyes, i had a 95 cobra in Rio red and this segment makes me really miss it.
i hope please the 1998 cadillac sts road test
💢THE MUSTANG WILL ALWAYS BE RELEVANT😎
How crazy is it that the modern regular GT now has at 110 more horsepower than this?
and people think its still not enough
Technology moves forward. It’s been 23 years since this car came out. I would expect higher numbers
To add, the Coyote is a descendant of the Modular V8 used in this 2000 Roush Mustang. The technology to control detonation is the key to today's engines being able to run compression ratios similar to the muscle car hey day of the late 60s. All aluminum construction, multi-valves, highly efficient combustion chambers, variable valve timing, efficient production tolerances, etc.. Remember too, a modern engine makes those big numbers at "peak" efficiency(ideal weather conditions, highest octane fuel available, etc.). Just like in the old days when getting your muscle car "super-tuned" to extract every HP available, modern cars need their ECUs to have access to ideal conditions to perform the same way.
@@05gtdriver I have a 2016 Mustang GT. What is your opinion of the Gen2 coyote engine?
@@padistedor From my understanding, the Gen 2 Coyote is basically a 2012-2013 Boss 302 in it's tuning and improvements over the Gen 1 Coyote. The Gen 3 is the Coyote that has larger pistons, a higher compression ratio and other improvements to make it's nearly 50+ HP over the Gen 1 engine.
TBH, any Gen Coyote is a pretty sweet engine, loves to rev, gets decent MPG for it's output.
Enjoy your 2016!
1:10 I do not see a supercharger at all.
It just doesn't seem it was that long ago.
This is one beautiful mustang! Love it!
Still a good looking car with a mean growl
Where's the blower on the motor pic they showed? Could get away with that back in 2000 I supposed
42K back in 2000 was big $$
Sweet! “This car is LOUD!” 👌🏼😆
Did anybody see a supercharger @1:03?🤔 Somebody left the hood unlatched @2:29 👀
change the pulley and add a taller rear gear to wake this car up even more
More New Edge Mustang Motorweeks please!
Sweet video!
Take note!!! You have to be a pro to drive a Ford Miustang. The power is so strong it confuses drivers during shifts. Basically they cant keep up. So when you see a Mustang lose a race by a small margin then you can probably guess the driver lost control of that stallion!!!!
I had a friend at work who had a N/A 4.6 of this Era and claimed he had 700 horsepower because it was bored out to a 5.2. I always called BS. He was one of those guys whos car was never running right. Anyone in the comments reading this did NA 4.6's have 700 HP potential without a Turbo/Supercharger?
He’s definitely full of BS.
@@nutz4gunz457 lol it was a kid at my job. He just got one of these new egde Mustangs. It was loud as hell, no muffler or cats. I just made a video about this topic. Car guy lies are funny. The new Z06 is making 700 horsepower and that's a modern car with all the latest technology and this dude had a New Edge with 700 HP NA allegedly lol
A 4.6 2 valve stroked to 5.0 or 5.3 cams and all the bolt ons possible (n/a) it’s probably in the 400 flywheel hp range, comparable to a first gen coyote but in a light platform like this new edge could make a quick little car, boosted that’s another thing
I had a 97 Cobra and with a Supercharger the claim was 440 HP according to American Muscles Website. That's why I always questioned my friend saying his NA was 700 HP
....super stealth invisible supercharger eh?
“A real race car every day” was one hell of a stretch lol.
First off, the engine shown is NOT supercharged and this is most likely just a stage 2. Second, regardless of what car it may or may not be, that hood is not latched at 2:31 lol
I noticed the same thing LOL
Love my stage 2
where's the blower? Did they use the B-roll from a regular V8?
MW still #1 autoshow
For a Stage 3 car that estimate seems pretty low
22 years ago😌
"Prepare yourself for the ridicule that will come with it." Got that right lol
Uau que da hora amigo 👍👏👏 valeu pela postagem sensacional
Sempre sensacional 😃😃👍
Sounds great.
Thats how a fucking mustang should always look, holy shit a silver one.....man the edge body was the best
Great job
From Argentina🇦🇷
Keep it up
Not a mustang fan, but I would drive it 👍🏻