Great interview, two things I’d like to correct: - coffee actually causes insulin resistance for a short time, so that wouldn’t be helpful if you’re taking GH for lipolysis - No, Metformin actually increases IGF-1 levels in adults. This data comes from The influence of metformin on IGF-1 levels in humans: A systematic review and meta-analysis (2020) (Yang, et. al.), and may come as a surprise to many bodybuilders and athletes that have been told otherwise as the paper is still in pre-publication.
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1 IU of Hgh is not gonna cause cardiac remodeling especially if it's not being combined with supraphysiological dosages of TRT or anabolics no matter when it's taken
I am a Belgian man who lives in Pattaya. My pituitary gland stopped delivering hormones because of a traumatic accident, Since 1990 I inject myself with growth hormones and every 20 days a testosterone intramuscular. Now because of covid, I can not go back to Belgium to buy growth hormones. I use Genotonorm 5 units (clicks) a day. The growth hormone I buy here seems not so strong . It is a Chinese hormone. The Doctor recommends a dose Growthormone of 1,6 units a day. not sure that this is enough.
This content has made up my mind on metformin ,il be using it with 1iu gh ,currently use 125mg sust 75mg npp e3d ,npp low dose for bone strength and joints due to prolapsed discs and it helps immensly,im aged 50 ..great content guys 👍
Not realy cos ive just jumped onto 100test prop 100npp and 100mast prop eod 👍the dises i was on werent cutting it and i only stuck to it as my endo wud have kicked me off trt wich he has now done
@@narmypara100 the endocrinologist was not wrong that’s a standard dose that was 125 mg sustanon per week? Typically it’s 200 mg test every 2 weeks but I agree it doesn’t cut it but it keeps the levels at a manageable level I think that’s why the doctors do this to maybe save there ass…. But there life and longevity clinics in the states now that you can really push the button with guidance as well but it will cost you a pretty penny….. I’m taking 500 mg sustanon per week with 2 iu hgh every day and 50 mg proviron every day and I’m feeling pretty good at 45 years old ✌️🙏💪
Yeah coach Steve,he definitely has the full head of hair genetics 👌interested in GH but on the black market mostly not what you want in my opinion.from what know how GH is handled and stored can "make" or break it.GH should be refrigerated and not shaken or it can become damaged,i think gym bro can not insure that it's treated that way before you get it.
Vigorous Steve definitely values pharma grade stuff and will prefer it if available. It seems to me you haven't seen many of the videos on his channel, if any.
@@wildanS When i said gym bro it wasn't addressed to Steve ,but to general gym bro ; i wouldn't buy GH because of the transport and refrigeration issue's i think you misunderstood me.
Started 200 mg test cyp weekly 6 months ago and 3iu HGH daily 6 weeks ago. Seeing small gains and slow fat loss but it’s still happening. Excited to see where I’ll be in a few months. 35 years old, 5’8, 170 lbs. I also had two cervical fusion surgery’s in 2022 and have muscular atrophy right tricep and right serratus muscle. Lost a lot of strength. Hope I can get back my 155 bench press. Two months ago I was at 75 LB bench press now I’m at 100 LB bench press
@@theworkethic yes and no with testosterone added I’ve leaned out a lot especially stomach area feel like my muscle bellies appear more round and skin is def a lot tighter everywhere and sleep is superb I sleep all night and have real vivid dreams that parts a little strange but yeah def feel good if I’m feeling frisky I’ll bump it to 4 iu split am pm if I’m running other compounds and in the zone but typically just the 2iu been taking this for over 2 years now and it’s life changing for sure IMO over 40
The only time i would use HGH ( if i could afford it ) to be really worth it would be to help me heal after a major injury/trauma . Again , I would go with the secretagogue ( if I could get it) not to suppress what's left of my natural production ( I'm 47 ).
In regards to heart enlargement, a calcium channel blocker could be a good addition as well as taking time off from heavy lifting and focusing on cardiovascular exercise. The heart is still a muscle and can increase or decrease in size like any other muscle.
agreed ...cycle off pct's ..starting running niacin 500mg / citrus bergamot 1000mg nightly . Reset your body starting with total cardiovascular . Just heart health for 6mths. Then get another calcium strike. You've gotta remove the plaque You've built up over the years. Stay strong but stay Safe while doing it , peace - brothers ✌️
What do you think of 1IU in the morning and 1IU before bed every other day... Not a body builder but looking to work out, wanting both effects but more so for healing joints etc.
@@JonnyRichMusic I found I preferred to do it once a day a little before bed usually. Yes low dose I think helped me get more out of it. If i was bodybuilding i could see the temptation to go a bit higher though. i did burn a bit of fat.
Did I hear correctly, he said there is no reason to do 5 and 2 because there is no evidence showing exogenous hGH shuts down your own production, but around 22:50 he said to keep your injection away from your nighttime pulse so there is no night time pulse suppression?
I was told to take 4 units a day 5 days a week . Im 39 6'3 220lbs workout 3 x a week. Should i start out with 2 UI and work to 4 ? Im loooking to lean out and muscle def
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The main thing about HGH is that , at a therapeutic dosage ( 1 or 2 i.u.'s /day ) , the costs outweigh the benefits big time . To FEEL a slight effect , you have to take it for prolonged periods of time (at least 6 months) . Even with pharmaceutical grade products , you won't feel much trust me .... Bottom line , there is 2 scenarios 1) you have a lot of money to spend and don't care about the costs and 2) You are a competitive bodybuilder ( national level and over) and have no choice if you want to stay competitive .
I've been taking 6 iu per week. I felt the difference in joint health within the first week. It's true that i haven't noticed any weight-loss or muscle-gain, but my painful tendonitis and knee clicking left after the first few days.
Isn’t an enlarged heart different from cardiomegaly ? An enlarged heart has been seen on powerlifters and years of maximal stress and strain but their hearts are strong and don’t cause issues from what I’ve read in a few studies. So big heart good but big sloppy weak heart is bad
Hi, Steve. I am recovering from surgery, I had plates and rods put in to stabilize a bad humerus fracture. I am a ped user already, but what can I expect from using 2iu per day for increased healing? I will be using actual norditropin pens. therefore pharma grade.
@@Izza_GlitCh any other PED for injury? I had surgery a couple years ago and the antibiotic made my tendons weak and I am having a hard Time getting back in shape from hurting joints sometimes
@@AnxiousCowboy i would just try testosterone around 200 mg a week. it helps with muscle recovery im not sure about joints but honestly its better than not trying it even if you hardly workout
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@@alphaapps8701 hi bro sory been super busy ..i upped the dosage now use 350 npp 500 test and 2iu hgh ..strength thru roof joint pains vanished c5 c6 discs shattered no need for pain pills now also sciatica has vanished could hardlys walk and wasnt sleeping due to neck pain its al gone completely ..size mass is stupid atm new wardrobe needed ..xxl t shirts ..all the best 💪
@Noel Armstrong Sounds amazing bro!!! I'm on Trt and trying to find a good place to find hgh. Looking into zphc but not 100% sold. Have severe Rheumatoid arthritis and think it will help me in life where my Dr will not!!! Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Dr Steven, have you ever met or consulted with Dr Thierry Hertoghe? He is in Belgium and he prescribes GH and also takes it himself! He has written a number of books on hormones too.
I talked to him on the phone once, and I even refer patients towards his clinic in Brussel if asked about HOT. Can they prescribe GH without deficiency?
All this hgh talk and here in the USA I have yet to find a doctor that will prescribe it. I'm on trt I'm 38yrs old I have chronic lyme disease and research has proven that hgh is the absolute best treatment for lyme disease symptoms. Every doctor and I mean alot of them! Have all said AIDS, ADOLESCENT DWARFISM AND 60% OF THE BODY BURN VICTIMS. Are they only 3 ways to get a prescription for hgh in America which really sucks for me! Any tips or advice on getting hgh preferably the legal way would be a blessing for me, my wife and 3 young children.
@@TRTandHormoneOptimization Ha!Yeah but now with the internet if you have money 💰 you can buy anything.I already tried mk677 and loved it and I am ready to move on to the real HGH:)
Okay but 500mg of anabolics may vary if in one case I’m running 500 test and 2nd case I have 250 test, 250 trenbolone right? Should I still stick to only 2ius while running much much stronger cycle with actually the same amount of milligrams? It’s quite confusing isn’t it?
Very interesting topic , unfortunately it's not sustainable for most of your viewers ( not cover by insurances either ). The secretagogue route ( as discussed by Gil T ) is very appealing for again most viewers can't get their hands on the real product ( same thing with glutathione injections) .
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Well you just have a stronger heart which is not a bad thing because it's just like an atm muscle as long as its function properly and is symmetrical like yours is, your good to go.. you have a strong heart
Usually around the 3rd month the effects and benefits start to show, the sleep gets really good will notice good energy and even your waist getting smaller etc.. but normally around 3-6 months frame
@@zjediniteI'm a healthy 60 y/o. Bought some Genotropin from a pharmacy. Do I start with 0.1 ml? Is this considered "1 unit"? Or, is 0.2 ml a better starting dose?
@@joeprager9961 yes 1 unit or 1 iuis equivalent to .1 of a ml. All same amount with different lingos 🤷🏻♂️ That’s an actual perfect starting dose, slow and steady wins the race with less risk of complications. Do them at night when you are done eating and could perhaps do 4 days on one off is cos is an issue. If not! 7 days a week is just dandy. Good luck! Don’t forget to eat healthy and work out for maximum results. Nothing crazy but just get moving, you know 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Try injecting more frequently but smaller doses. That’s most likely estrogen increase, which isn’t necessarily bad, but it can be over a long enough time line. Frequent dosing with smaller amounts has showed to reduce estrogen conversion because your blood levels aren’t spiked with a bolus amount of testosterone once or twice a week.
@@wtfmrkratos I had the same issue Buck. I take Sustanon 250 at 1ml per week and HGH at 1 ml up to 8 mls when working out very hard. Splitting the dosage of Sus to three times weekly and the HGH to three times daily helped a lot. As did daily walks... Whatever you do don't go for Arimidex, it's poison, kills your estrogen and libido.
In regards to the heart enlargement if you take GH before activity: Isn't it true that the muscle growth from GH is dictated by the increased IGF-1 levels, which in fact stay elevated for days after each shot of GH? I have a hard time drawing the conclusion that it would matter what time you take the GH.
It’s so hard to get good info because there’s so many smart, well spoken & respected people in this field that are saying different things! A debate w 5 of these guys would be priceless
@@chriswood7165 are you not a troll? I thought you were , why do you take such a high amount of GH ? I know bodybuilders who are abolute units and only take about 4 iu a day
@@chriswood7165Well if you are 68 then fair play on yours 4iu a day, I will probably do something similar if i live up to then ''Having a bad day are we young lady'' a bad year honestly
Hi I have a question about hgh. I have pharmacy growth hormone and thought to use it 4 iu before training and 4 iu before the evening with insulin (insulin 4 weeks on 4 weeks off) thought the insulin cycle is like the first week 4iu second 5iu third 6iu 4 week 6iu hgh a break of 4 weeks after administration of insulin but my question also concerns the timing of the foot whether it is wise to consume carbohydrates like oatmeal + whey and peanut butter before a workout and after the workout also something like that and fats only in the morning and during the day this protocol one year and one more thing .... u should do video where u talk your opinion of steroids for powerlifting
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Do you know what your pancreas is doing? Like is it just lazy always, or just because too much insulin in the blood from too many calories? I'm in nursing school so I'm curious is your doctor tells you how you pancreas is affected from type 2.
Not GH secretagogues (peptides) but pharmacy grade GH and trt will absolutely 100% make a difference. 2-4iu’s before bed 👌 you can also work your way up too more depending on side effects.
@@dolarrius the positive benefits of gh are muscle growth, faster recovery times, better sleep. The cons are dependent on the person and dosage. Some people experience insulin resistance, edema, numb hands, being over tired but those are usually at higher dosages.
It has nothing to do with the size of the syringe. Hgh comes in a dry powder puck. You have to add bac water to it. however much water you add will make the difference. For instance, if your vial is 10iu and you add 1ml bac water your hgh vial will be 10iu per 1ml. If you add 2ml water it will be 10iu per 2ml.
I'm 53. When working out hard I'll pin morning with 3mg, pre workout with 2mg and 3mg about 1-2 hours before bed. When not working out hard/not cycling I'll taper down to 1 ml per day over 2 weeks.
YES GH BEST TAKEN RIGHT BEFORE BED FOR BEST RESULTS. CAUSE YOU ALREADY WILL HAVE AN EMPTY STOMACH AT THAT POINT TOO. AND THE LETHARGY YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE WILL BE WHEN YOU ARE MOSTLY SLEEPING. =)
Sir I had used HGH on and off. Recently started getting serious constipation. After monitoring all my eating habits it is conclude that constipation is due to HGH. Can u advise something...
HGH increase t4 to t3 conversion speeding up metabolism. Over time u will have lack of t4 as ur body can't keep up.. u need to add t4 50mcg a day at morning time and u will be digesting and shitting like a boss again and non lethargic.
Then why did Alex Rodriguez, a person w zero financial incentive to take 1day off & everything to gain per athletic performance, still only do 6days a week, directed by one the best in the business Anthony Bosch?
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Damn. That was very informative. Thanks a ton. The guy knows his stuff!
Glad you liked it!
Awesome Content! Please more with Vigorous Steve! 👊💪
His channel is a goldmine
Vigorous Steve is a gem!
So much knowledge!
Thank you!!
Glad you think so!
One of the best video I've watched on the subject thanks
Glad it was helpful!
yes , my favorite HGH video so far on all of youtube
Great interview, two things I’d like to correct:
- coffee actually causes insulin resistance for a short time, so that wouldn’t be helpful if you’re taking GH for lipolysis
- No, Metformin actually increases IGF-1 levels in adults. This data comes from The influence of metformin on IGF-1 levels in humans: A systematic review and meta-analysis (2020) (Yang, et. al.), and may come as a surprise to many bodybuilders and athletes that have been told otherwise as the paper is still in pre-publication.
JMC Thank you for sharing!
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@GhaziCSR2 , Thank *you* for watching and *commenting* !!👍
There are two people that I can say I TRUST what they say is factual.
Dr. THOMAS O’CONNOR and Mr Vigorous Steve. These two guys speak the absolute TRUTH!
There are many knowledgeable people out there but for me, is these two guys! 💯
Thomas O’Connor 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@MegaMarky82 you disagree!?
1 IU of Hgh is not gonna cause cardiac remodeling especially if it's not being combined with supraphysiological dosages of TRT or anabolics no matter when it's taken
Excellent video guys great info
Thanks 👍
This is great information and a great channel 👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
Steve is a beast in the subject 😊
😎
Love the Dutch accent Vigorous!
I speak Dutch too, Flemish accent, Steve Holland accent.
PS: have you noticed: the very last thing Steve says in this video is in Dutch?
I am a Belgian man who lives in Pattaya. My pituitary gland stopped delivering hormones because of a traumatic accident, Since 1990 I inject myself with growth hormones and every 20 days a testosterone intramuscular. Now because of covid, I can not go back to Belgium to buy growth hormones. I use Genotonorm 5 units (clicks) a day. The growth hormone I buy here seems not so strong . It is a Chinese hormone. The Doctor recommends a dose Growthormone of 1,6 units a day. not sure that this is enough.
How did that worked out?
Glad to see this! Perhaps a 101 video on insulin?
This content has made up my mind on metformin ,il be using it with 1iu gh ,currently use 125mg sust 75mg npp e3d ,npp low dose for bone strength and joints due to prolapsed discs and it helps immensly,im aged 50 ..great content guys 👍
You are taking below the replacement dose while shutting down your natural production of it..?
Not realy cos ive just jumped onto 100test prop 100npp and 100mast prop eod 👍the dises i was on werent cutting it and i only stuck to it as my endo wud have kicked me off trt wich he has now done
@@narmypara100 the endocrinologist was not wrong that’s a standard dose that was 125 mg sustanon per week? Typically it’s 200 mg test every 2 weeks but I agree it doesn’t cut it but it keeps the levels at a manageable level I think that’s why the doctors do this to maybe save there ass…. But there life and longevity clinics in the states now that you can really push the button with guidance as well but it will cost you a pretty penny….. I’m taking 500 mg sustanon per week with 2 iu hgh every day and 50 mg proviron every day and I’m feeling pretty good at 45 years old ✌️🙏💪
nice topic
Thanks!
Great video!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Yeah coach Steve,he definitely has the full head of hair genetics 👌interested in GH but on the black market mostly not what you want in my opinion.from what know how GH is handled and stored can "make" or break it.GH should be refrigerated and not shaken or it can become damaged,i think gym bro can not insure that it's treated that way before you get it.
Vigorous Steve definitely values pharma grade stuff and will prefer it if available. It seems to me you haven't seen many of the videos on his channel, if any.
@@wildanS When i said gym bro it wasn't addressed to Steve ,but to general gym bro ; i wouldn't buy GH because of the transport and refrigeration issue's i think you misunderstood me.
@@malekmalek9064 u can have the full head of hair genetics too with a little thing called smp.. 👍
@@flow2tech aaa tattooing
@@malekmalek9064 They doing some crazy things now..🤟
i love this guy.. omg .. he is handsom and smart
@elleelle5939 Thank you for sharing!
Yeah but he is Dutch, we can hear it in his accent.
Steve, in regards to heart enlargement…
What do you think about calcium channel blockers like amlodapine?
evidence based results. Love it! Bedankt heren!
Met plezier!
Bedankt om te commenten!
Started 200 mg test cyp weekly 6 months ago and 3iu HGH daily 6 weeks ago. Seeing small gains and slow fat loss but it’s still happening. Excited to see where I’ll be in a few months. 35 years old, 5’8, 170 lbs. I also had two cervical fusion surgery’s in 2022 and have muscular atrophy right tricep and right serratus muscle. Lost a lot of strength. Hope I can get back my 155 bench press. Two months ago I was at 75 LB bench press now I’m at 100 LB bench press
How are you feeling I’ve been on hgh for about 2 years now and it’s pretty amazing at just 2 ius day
Updates? How’s the hgh??
@@kaizersoze2606 everything for vanity huh
@@theworkethic yes and no with testosterone added I’ve leaned out a lot especially stomach area feel like my muscle bellies appear more round and skin is def a lot tighter everywhere and sleep is superb I sleep all night and have real vivid dreams that parts a little strange but yeah def feel good if I’m feeling frisky I’ll bump it to 4 iu split am pm if I’m running other compounds and in the zone but typically just the 2iu been taking this for over 2 years now and it’s life changing for sure IMO over 40
This was a great web session!
Thank you!
The only time i would use HGH ( if i could afford it ) to be really worth it would be to help me heal after a major injury/trauma . Again , I would go with the secretagogue ( if I could get it) not to suppress what's left of my natural production ( I'm 47 ).
Bring him back please!
Thanks guys for sharing all of your knowlege.
You bet!
In regards to heart enlargement, a calcium channel blocker could be a good addition as well as taking time off from heavy lifting and focusing on cardiovascular exercise.
The heart is still a muscle and can increase or decrease in size like any other muscle.
agreed ...cycle off pct's ..starting running niacin 500mg / citrus bergamot 1000mg nightly . Reset your body starting with total cardiovascular . Just heart health for 6mths. Then get another calcium strike. You've gotta remove the plaque You've built up over the years.
Stay strong but stay Safe while doing it , peace - brothers ✌️
What do you think of 1IU in the morning and 1IU before bed every other day... Not a body builder but looking to work out, wanting both effects but more so for healing joints etc.
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@@TRTandHormoneOptimization Thank you for everything you do
@@JonnyRichMusic I found I preferred to do it once a day a little before bed usually. Yes low dose I think helped me get more out of it. If i was bodybuilding i could see the temptation to go a bit higher though. i did burn a bit of fat.
How much do you have to take to get rid of wrinkles and for how long
I thought the fda didn't approve hgh replacement therapy for anti-aging in the United States
They didn’t.
SR-9011 keeps your heart from enlarging. Leo mentioned this.
Veri good Topic👍🍀🏋️♂️
Is the entire basis of the metformin argument built around some IGF1 correlations with longevity??
and mTOR
Did I hear correctly, he said there is no reason to do 5 and 2 because there is no evidence showing exogenous hGH shuts down your own production, but around 22:50 he said to keep your injection away from your nighttime pulse so there is no night time pulse suppression?
Shutting down production and suppression of natural production isn't the same
Yeah I noticed this discrepancy too.
I was told to take 4 units a day 5 days a week . Im 39 6'3 220lbs workout 3 x a week. Should i start out with 2 UI and work to 4 ? Im loooking to lean out and muscle def
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It is common practice and recommended to taper up, yes. Especially if using something you got without a prescription
The main thing about HGH is that , at a therapeutic dosage ( 1 or 2 i.u.'s /day ) , the costs outweigh the benefits big time . To FEEL a slight effect , you have to take it for prolonged periods of time (at least 6 months) . Even with pharmaceutical grade products , you won't feel much trust me .... Bottom line , there is 2 scenarios 1) you have a lot of money to spend and don't care about the costs and 2) You are a competitive bodybuilder ( national level and over) and have no choice if you want to stay competitive .
But I take mk677 and I felt the effects since first dose...
jhmm gf yeah you feel pharma GH in the first few days. Best PED of all time/ you must be a lazy bastard martin.
@@allkindzofgainz what’s something you would notice if i may ask?
Couldn’t disagree more, I feel the difference in .75 vs 1 iu prebed. Sleep and recovery benefits are obvious. And that’s with generics
I've been taking 6 iu per week. I felt the difference in joint health within the first week. It's true that i haven't noticed any weight-loss or muscle-gain, but my painful tendonitis and knee clicking left after the first few days.
Steve I see different answers everywhere but how long does it take too feel the effects of growth hormone
Within a week if it's it's of Pharma grade quality.
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Isn’t an enlarged heart different from cardiomegaly ? An enlarged heart has been seen on powerlifters and years of maximal stress and strain but their hearts are strong and don’t cause issues from what I’ve read in a few studies. So big heart good but big sloppy weak heart is bad
If i use it for healing up injuries and i stop months later will it cause downregulation? Will it desenitize through negative feedback loop?
Hi, Steve. I am recovering from surgery, I had plates and rods put in to stabilize a bad humerus fracture. I am a ped user already, but what can I expect from using 2iu per day for increased healing? I will be using actual norditropin pens. therefore pharma grade.
I fractured my spine and after like two yrs took hgh and the pain dropped but its there from time to time
@@Izza_GlitCh any other PED for injury? I had surgery a couple years ago and the antibiotic made my tendons weak and I am having a hard
Time getting back in shape from hurting joints sometimes
@@AnxiousCowboy i would just try testosterone around 200 mg a week. it helps with muscle recovery im not sure about joints but honestly its better than not trying it even if you hardly workout
I heard TB500 does increase again the myocard vascularity.. maybe worth to check deeper on this one (heart enlargement)
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If it increases myocardial vascularity, then would it also not increase collateral vessel creation throughout the process of coronary artery disease
If you take GH in the morning is subQ or IM best for injection? I heard subQ causes igf levels to last longer but IM increases GH levels higher.
I myself prefer im
Hey guys I have a question can you do HGH if you have a cold, if you are sick?
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Il be adding 2iu hgh to my 125sust and 75npp e3d very soon ..aged 50 see were it takes me 💪
How thid that turned out?
@@alphaapps8701 doing 125 sust eod and 40mg both mast and npp the same with 2 iu hgh ..getting very strong and packing on size 💪
@@narmypara100 thanks for the feedback bro
@@alphaapps8701 hi bro sory been super busy ..i upped the dosage now use 350 npp 500 test and 2iu hgh ..strength thru roof joint pains vanished c5 c6 discs shattered no need for pain pills now also sciatica has vanished could hardlys walk and wasnt sleeping due to neck pain its al gone completely ..size mass is stupid atm new wardrobe needed ..xxl t shirts ..all the best 💪
@Noel Armstrong Sounds amazing bro!!! I'm on Trt and trying to find a good place to find hgh. Looking into zphc but not 100% sold. Have severe Rheumatoid arthritis and think it will help me in life where my Dr will not!!! Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Do you have to inject this daily? What about maybe once or twice a week?
3x per week minimum is my subjective opinion. EOD or ED injections are most common
Can i use 2iu hgh before bed along wth 500mg metformin?
Yes
Great info
Thanks for watching!
How long should I wait to begin cardio after taking hgh to achieve the best fat loss
Straight away after injection
Dr Steven, have you ever met or consulted with Dr Thierry Hertoghe? He is in Belgium and he prescribes GH and also takes it himself! He has written a number of books on hormones too.
Awesome
I talked to him on the phone once, and I even refer patients towards his clinic in Brussel if asked about HOT.
Can they prescribe GH without deficiency?
@@TRTandHormoneOptimization yeah,for Anti aging purpose,like HRT clinics in the US.✌️
@@TRTandHormoneOptimization Almost certainly he will be able to prescribe GH to you.
I sent him several invites and never got a reply from him.
What about for example taking 1iu empty stomach in the morning and 1iu before bed?
Have you tried it?
@@TRTandHormoneOptimization i am on trt
@@paolopizzini9506 what does that have to do with his question?
you can do trt and use gh lol
All this hgh talk and here in the USA I have yet to find a doctor that will prescribe it. I'm on trt I'm 38yrs old I have chronic lyme disease and research has proven that hgh is the absolute best treatment for lyme disease symptoms. Every doctor and I mean alot of them! Have all said AIDS, ADOLESCENT DWARFISM AND 60% OF THE BODY BURN VICTIMS. Are they only 3 ways to get a prescription for hgh in America which really sucks for me! Any tips or advice on getting hgh preferably the legal way would be a blessing for me, my wife and 3 young children.
It's far cheaper to order it from overseas sources anyway. There are even clinics in mexico with fly and buy programs.
Any luck yet HD RYDER
@@bfourney how do I buy stuff that way? Never heard of that before. I want phen tho and can only get it in Mexico
I have pharmaceutical hgh for sale if you want some @HD RYDER
You can get HGH from any HRT clinic, they won’t take insurance though
Do you personally use hgh or any secretagogues?And do they really benefit the skin(since you are a dermatologist)?
I can not use them, since they are illegal in Belgium to use off label.
@@TRTandHormoneOptimization Ha!Yeah but now with the internet if you have money 💰 you can buy anything.I already tried mk677 and loved it and I am ready to move on to the real HGH:)
I do 2 ius in the middle of the night when I wake to pee. I preload a syringes before bed and put it in a cold pack so it only takes a second to pin.
Thanks for sharing!
Have a great weekend!
Do you have to be in a caloric deficit to experience the fat burning benefits?
Noap.
@@UsYoungAgain im 50... so I can keep a slight caloric excess to continue gains and lose that last 10 lbs!!! yes...
@@kellyfontes7757 great, me 500 as well) I do not count calories, and while using GH definitely shed some body fat..
So hgh with keto
yes
Okay but 500mg of anabolics may vary if in one case I’m running 500 test and 2nd case I have 250 test, 250 trenbolone right? Should I still stick to only 2ius while running much much stronger cycle with actually the same amount of milligrams? It’s quite confusing isn’t it?
What’s the point of taking 500 Mg?
Thank you Coach ! RESPECT !
Thanks
No problem
Very interesting topic , unfortunately it's not sustainable for most of your viewers ( not cover by insurances either ). The secretagogue route ( as discussed by Gil T ) is very appealing for again most viewers can't get their hands on the real product ( same thing with glutathione injections) .
I dont get it. Hgh even at lower doses still raises your igf levels
Yeah, doesn’t make sense.
You don't listen. He advised to take it with metformin extended release.
If I inject it straight into my hog will it grow?
🤣
@@THEUPSTAIRS100 OMG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I JUST DIED
You’re not the only one who thought about it 😭
What a good hgh dosage for women
Probably shouldn’t do more than 2IU a day for a woman, 1 morning 1 evening
Hi I’m girl can I used gh 2 i o I hit the gym
Weekly 5 days
better off using 1 IU and Anavar
Do you recommend taking hgh 20 min before meal for 4 meals a day ?
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That would literally be the worst time
Peptide such a Sermorelin and ipamorelin is better for anti-aging than HGH.
Thanks for sharing! 👍
The effect on GH and IGF-1 is much shorter, and overall less effective
Well you just have a stronger heart which is not a bad thing because it's just like an atm muscle as long as its function properly and is symmetrical like yours is, your good to go.. you have a strong heart
Yeah that's not how that works... Quit having diary of the mouth about stuff you know nothing about. You're just embarrassing yourself
Ironically the heart issue can be solved by beta blockers?
So does it melt of your fat , when do u see first effects ? If any
Usually around the 3rd month the effects and benefits start to show, the sleep gets really good will notice good energy and even your waist getting smaller etc.. but normally around 3-6 months frame
@@Aesthetics622 does it get rid of your wrinkles
I noticed after 1 month on a ketogenic diet.
The best growth hormone is Chinese are very good and cheap.
How can I purchase it?
@@suheibmousa6160just purchased two. Ordered them
what does HGH do for the prostate?
Nothing
How many MG are you considering has one unit
1 unit is .1 of a ML
So a 1 ML syringe will have 10 IU
This is how I do the math, MG not apply nor not used in my head 😆
@@zjediniteI'm a healthy 60 y/o. Bought some Genotropin from a pharmacy. Do I start with 0.1 ml? Is this considered "1 unit"?
Or, is 0.2 ml a better starting dose?
@@joeprager9961 yes 1 unit or 1 iuis equivalent to .1 of a ml. All same amount with different lingos 🤷🏻♂️
That’s an actual perfect starting dose, slow and steady wins the race with less risk of complications. Do them at night when you are done eating and could perhaps do 4 days on one off is cos is an issue. If not! 7 days a week is just dandy. Good luck! Don’t forget to eat healthy and work out for maximum results.
Nothing crazy but just get moving, you know 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
@@joeprager9961 definitely .1 of a ml or “one unit” is the way to start. More is less you know what I mean…..
Can you tell me what size needle to use for GH? 31 gauge / 1 ML / 3/4”
Just use insulin syringe, 28-31 gauge
8mm which I think is 5/8 is perfect imo
And yes, definitely 31 gauge.
The other answer you got here was pretty much “yes, use a syringe” 🤦🏻♂️ 😂
I'm doing TRT and HGH, but I'm experiencing water retention. What's the solution for this which will not negatively affect my kidneys?
Try injecting more frequently but smaller doses. That’s most likely estrogen increase, which isn’t necessarily bad, but it can be over a long enough time line. Frequent dosing with smaller amounts has showed to reduce estrogen conversion because your blood levels aren’t spiked with a bolus amount of testosterone once or twice a week.
@@wtfmrkratos I had the same issue Buck. I take Sustanon 250 at 1ml per week and HGH at 1 ml up to 8 mls when working out very hard. Splitting the dosage of Sus to three times weekly and the HGH to three times daily helped a lot. As did daily walks... Whatever you do don't go for Arimidex, it's poison, kills your estrogen and libido.
In regards to the heart enlargement if you take GH before activity: Isn't it true that the muscle growth from GH is dictated by the increased IGF-1 levels, which in fact stay elevated for days after each shot of GH? I have a hard time drawing the conclusion that it would matter what time you take the GH.
It’s so hard to get good info because there’s so many smart, well spoken & respected people in this field that are saying different things! A debate w 5 of these guys would be priceless
I took 8ui every morning and now they won't sell me beer in the pub unless I have ID
Based on your picture you look about 65 So its not that brother
@@cocoino2307 Thats before i started lol, im actually 68
@@chriswood7165 are you not a troll? I thought you were , why do you take such a high amount of GH ? I know bodybuilders who are abolute units and only take about 4 iu a day
@@cocoino2307 No I'm a human. My reading went up to 400 so now I'm trying. 4ul a day 6 days a week. Having a bad day are we young lady
@@chriswood7165Well if you are 68 then fair play on yours 4iu a day, I will probably do something similar if i live up to then
''Having a bad day are we young lady'' a bad year honestly
Hi
I have a question about hgh.
I have pharmacy growth hormone and thought to use it 4 iu before training and 4 iu before the evening with insulin (insulin 4 weeks on 4 weeks off)
thought the insulin cycle is like the first week 4iu second 5iu third 6iu 4 week 6iu hgh
a break of 4 weeks after administration of insulin
but my question also concerns the timing of the foot
whether it is wise to consume carbohydrates like oatmeal + whey and peanut butter before a workout and after the workout also something like that and fats only in the morning and during the day
this protocol one year
and one more thing .... u should do video where u talk your opinion of steroids for powerlifting
What if I'm already type 2 diabetic
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Do you know what your pancreas is doing? Like is it just lazy always, or just because too much insulin in the blood from too many calories?
I'm in nursing school so I'm curious is your doctor tells you how you pancreas is affected from type 2.
So I’m 39, on trt. Gh peptides will do the trick or no?
no
Not GH secretagogues (peptides) but pharmacy grade GH and trt will absolutely 100% make a difference.
2-4iu’s before bed 👌 you can also work your way up too more depending on side effects.
@@Swolebull89 What's the benefits? Does it affect the sleep or mood
@@dolarrius the positive benefits of gh are muscle growth, faster recovery times, better sleep.
The cons are dependent on the person and dosage. Some people experience insulin resistance, edema, numb hands, being over tired but those are usually at higher dosages.
Algorithm comment.
Thanks for sharing! *Enjoy your Sunday* !
how much hgh dosage for weight loss and how frequent ( once daily or twice) thanks
2iu fasted in morning works best
@@TheGareth77 Thanks coach
Very confused with dosages …in an insulin syringe (0.3ml)it holds a total of 30 units….how many is 1 iu ??
1 IU is around .035 ml
.3ml syringe?
@@newbluerugby yes
It has nothing to do with the size of the syringe. Hgh comes in a dry powder puck. You have to add bac water to it. however much water you add will make the difference. For instance, if your vial is 10iu and you add 1ml bac water your hgh vial will be 10iu per 1ml. If you add 2ml water it will be 10iu per 2ml.
1 iu is 1/10 of 10 iu vial. Depends on volume of fluid you put in.
How many MG daily do most guys take? 40-50
3iu is 1mg so not thinking many mg a day. Maybe 1mg a day is optimal.
He said for every 250mg of anabolics take 1iu . So 750 mg of test would be 3 iu a day
So if u are only on trt ,even say 100mg of testosterone I would say 1 iu a day.
I'm 53. When working out hard I'll pin morning with 3mg, pre workout with 2mg and 3mg about 1-2 hours before bed. When not working out hard/not cycling I'll taper down to 1 ml per day over 2 weeks.
I should add I'm using proper Norditropin (Somatropin) Nordiflex. There's a lot of crap out there.
YES GH BEST TAKEN RIGHT BEFORE BED FOR BEST RESULTS. CAUSE YOU ALREADY WILL HAVE AN EMPTY STOMACH AT THAT POINT TOO. AND THE LETHARGY YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE WILL BE WHEN YOU ARE MOSTLY SLEEPING. =)
does 2 IUs per day cause face bloat ?
Yupp..going through it
@@onlysatire8986 wow - that is what I just dont want , any way around it ??
@@zibtihaj3213 nope less carbs lot of water..might help..but it will stay as long as u r on hgh
@@zibtihaj3213 with 2 iu minimal
@@onlysatire8986 mmmmh thx a lot really.... no wonder Sylvester stallon looks so bloated - he was extra lean in the face in the 80s...
Sir I had used HGH on and off. Recently started getting serious constipation. After monitoring all my eating habits it is conclude that constipation is due to HGH. Can u advise something...
You need to eat papaya
stewed prunes and raisins daily.
How much HGH were you taking when you got constipation?
HGH increase t4 to t3 conversion speeding up metabolism. Over time u will have lack of t4 as ur body can't keep up.. u need to add t4 50mcg a day at morning time and u will be digesting and shitting like a boss again and non lethargic.
So if not from China than where are they from ? The best HGH
How many iu does each bottle come with?
normally 10 iu's , and 10 bottles per pack (100uis per kit most of the time)
@@Ardenuponly the Chinese UG crap.
@@freedominsteadof1984 No my stuff is american made and comes like that
@@freedominsteadof1984most generics have a 97% purity. The least purity I've ever seen in a generic is 92% 😂
How much is 1 IU in Mcg?
1 IU is 0.3 ml.
0.33
The information he is providing is flat out wrong.
Why
It's basically the opposite of what Palumbo recommends. But I don't know who is right. 😢
Two 🇳🇱 guys speaking 🇺🇸 ish
Correction 🇬🇧
@@samhellion indeed
Then why did Alex Rodriguez, a person w zero financial incentive to take 1day off & everything to gain per athletic performance, still only do 6days a week, directed by one the best in the business Anthony Bosch?
Seriously, can u elaborate, explain, expand? Thanks so much
Steve contradicts himself!! He now days is preaching Gh is very dangeous even at low doses
Thanks for commenting!
And what do *you* think?
he still uses it.
it’s dangerous in the way that it could increase cancer development. this has always been a fact
@@brentdraper4382 This is not fact
Not true. That’s creepy dude Leo is the only one who speaks against it
why do guys in these spaces all have the Joe rogan head shape
I think they take anabolic steroids (or took in the past).
Its genetics plus the drugs, since bodybuilding attracts "meatheads" to start with.
Boring and unclear
true
I agree 💯 no structure like benefits, dosage,advice, personal opinion,side effects,pros Vs cons boom! Done ✅
Brilliant clip. Thank you.
Many thanks!