Plane Approaches Too Low
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- Опубліковано 10 бер 2023
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Asiana Boeing 777 parallel approach into San Francisco
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Hong Kong Airlines Airbus A330 pilot induced oscillations on landing
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F-18 fighter jets refueling during low pass
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Business jet nearly suffering wing strike on landing
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Asiana and SFO have a.... uh... complicated relationship.
Especially in 777s
Dont really understand why they‘re not performing a simple ILS approach like everywhere else in the world… 🤷🏻♂️
Yes, Captains Win Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong can attest to that
@@waqasusmans and that Ho Lee Fuk pilot
@@waqasusmansdon't forget bang ding ow
Asiana and SFO, the low approaches and everything. The bond is unreal
hahahaha yes
+ the same 777 type, being a 777-200
I hope they learned their lesson.
It got me clicken when I saw it
same *runway* as well = 28L
Asiana was just fine the whole time. The reason it looked lower is because it was farther ahead, so it had to be lower in order to make the touchdown zone, which it did.
SFO 28L also has a 2.85 degree glide slope instead of the normal 3.00 as on 28R.
I had to look again. That's what causes the illusion.
@@Daniel-go6ci great catch! That would make the other plane look even lower.
The parallel approaches at SF require one airplane to be the lead plane, so the other aircraft can keep them in sight and maintain visual separation. Here the Asiana plane was ahead and lower so the Virgin America Airbus was following. Pretty impressive that the 777’s VREF is so close to the A319/320/321 (whatever Airbus model that was).
Thank you!
Didn't look to me like they were low but daaaaamn that was a smooth landing. I think taxiing to the gate was probably bumpier than that landing.
Greased it. Barely any tire smoke.
Southwest pilots take note!
@@alm4132 Southwest pilots don't have gear tilt and 12 wheels.
@@mr.verification9993 Got excuses though!!!
@@alm4132 It's not a plane meant to be buttered. There's a reason you're unemployed.
The Asiana landing was buttery smooth, as if it was a challenge not to wake up the baby sleeping in row 20.
Nah, the baby was busy crying at the top of their lungs already due to air pressure changes.
PFFFFFFTTTTT🤣🤣🤣
smooth is not what you want out of a landing, that's how you run out of runway. You want the pilot to stick the landing at the beginning of the runway
@@drpaine7428 exactly!
@@drpaine7428 Exactamondo 💯
Looked like a super smooth landing to me
The problem is, a super low approach like that is not safe. I forget the exact reasons why but they need to be within the glide path or else there's various issues that could happen. Like if there was a sudden downward gust of wind, it's better to be higher up when the plane isn't over the runway.
@@R2Bl3nd fair point!
@@R2Bl3nd Or engine failure/bird strike on final. If too low you may not reach the runway.
Agreed. It might have been on the lower side (although I think visual parallax from the higher plane was more likely), but it was stabilised the whole way in and hit right on the aiming markers.
(I’d rather have been on that plane than the second one 🤣)
"Too low" is what happened on July 6, 2013. This was somewhere between "low" and "perfectly normal", probably closer to the latter.
That finnish man cursing about forgetting headphones at 2:40 😂
Lol
That was a buttery 777 landing!
That wasn't refueling... that's how you get baby F-18s. Nature sure is amazing!
Don’t be ridiculous.
It s an F18 towing an other F18
@@Boss_Tanaka Next time don't park in the handicapped zone.
A hell of a lot cheaper too
lmao
777 instructor here. The Asiana 777 looks to me to be on glideslope and actually touches down a little long.
Carpet cleaner here. You took the words right out of my mouth
777 fan here, do you know of any scholarships/sponsors willing to fund my dream to fly?
To ask those looking for a scholarship, it varies from country to country. I have heard that there are scholarships in Canada for Canadians. Other than that, check in your own country. Frankly, though, I'm very much out of touch with the primary training possibilities.
@@davidkeasal6542 noted🙏
video game player here, i could have landed in half the runway length.
Nothing wrong with the Asiana approach. It's definitely not "too low".
That's so cool how the Asiana plane was lower in altitude the entire time yet they both touched down at the same time.
Probably because the Asiana was just a couple of hundred feet in front and therefore lower. Is would say at the same distance to airport they probably had the same height.
@@Volvo_EG It’s not just perception. You are partly correct. But even when completely abeam, the 28R airplane is usually slightly higher than 28L traffic. This is because the 28L PAPI is set up at 2.85 degrees, 28R is set up for 3.00 degrees.
Redwood Cactus Northwest 👍🏼
Yeah, had a similar experience flying into Dallas one time except that it was flight with about 60 drunken guy's from NYC on our way to see the Giants play the Cowboys. But is was funny as heck as they were all yelling and rooting for our plane to touch down first. Lol. 😂
@@Silo-Ren that sounds like the most epic flight ever lol.
I love being in a plane on SFO approach on a nice day. Always awesome to watch dual landings. Only thing better would be a triple wide at ATL..
We've got some triple wides in ATL. You don't want to be stuck in between them on a long flight.
the view at night is unreal also. Especially with a full moon on all the water
so you like threeways? I would rather have planes do their own thing in safe distance zones, and I'm sure they all did/would, but that's my ignorance/precaution talking to myself...
People who know Asiana flight 214 💀
Bang ding ow 💀💀
Who doesn't know?
💀
@@planespotterronish👍
That's the first thing that came to my mind.
Asiana flight was hella smooth. If I was a passenger on the row seats, I would've never known we had landed.
That 777 buttered the landing - nice!
LOVED The Dual Landings at the very beginning! On a side note, I was sweating bullets not seeing your "Plane" on the Kiosks for Times of Video Arrivals in my UA-cam Mailbox!🤣 Glad you all made it safely! Cheers From The Clouds In Ohio To ALL Who Fly With 3 Minutes Of Aviation!
one day someone, if not me as i live in ATL, will get a three wide landing video - KATL has 3 Parallel landing runways. 9R/27L, 8L/26R and 10/28
you can see that on ADSB all the time as well.
@@CapStar362 Appreciate your response and heads up info CapStar! Cheers From The Concourse In COW-lumbus, Ohio MOO
Video title: Plane is too low!
First frame of the video: Actually it's perfect!
1:57 - David Attenborough: "And here we see up in the sky two hornets performing a mating ritual midflight. Quite extraordinary."
The fact it's an Asiana 777 doing a low approach at SFO is... ironic to say the least.
Wait no no no no no I don’t like where this is going
@@AFootballFan10 Sum Ting Wong
It wasn't a low approach however.
@@starguy2718 Wi Tu Low
Ho Lee Fuk
Bang Ding Ow
@@n666eo The public eat up his videos.
as a pilot myself, that Asiana’s approach was perfectly fine
I’ve definitely had a much “lower” landing at SFO. Coming in from Monterey in rough weather, at night, with heavy fog. Broke through the fog in time to see dark water right under the wing, gasp, and then hit tarmac, all in the span of a single second.
So I agree with most of the comments, he doesn't look low to me in fact he seems to be the same approach height as the plane where the video was taken. Looks like a beautiful approach to me.
Me at first: Asiana 214?!
Same
Yu So Dum
Damn i think its the second same incident :v
Excellent clips! The first demonstrates buttering the runway, the second shows years of expertise, and the third displays precision flying.
Years of experience 😂😂😂 he absolutely butchered the landing and deceleration
I checked and "buttering the runway" is an expression ( love Urban Dictionary )...but before I checked, I thought of "Last Tango in Paris"/Maria Schneider....
Thanks I did them all
Landing in SFO is always interesting because you feel like the plane is about to ditch in the water.
Funny, I never feel like that.
Damn that asiana 777 had an absolute buttery smooth landing
The Asiana landing looked perfect!!
That was the smoothest landing anyone has ever made at SFO.
I love watching the parallel ILS into Atlanta. Looks pretty similar without the water
They almost recreated Asiana 214💀💀💀
great filming by the passenger in the chase plane at SFO!
"Filming ?"....i wish film was used like back in the day, but i dont think so
time to retire that word i guess...
Love that approach into SFO.. double landed many times there.
0:16 Asians 214 vibes
3:11min!!! Thank you for 11 more seconds of Aviation - we are back in business now 😁
The San Fran landing looked spot on to me.
That wing strike landing looked like it was just dropping vertically, like a helicopter. Great angle.
The 1st landing looks awesome! I couldn't have done any better!
(By the way I'm not pilot)
But do you play one on TV?
@@sanddabz5635 why yes, I do but tell anyone! Ha!
@@robertgriffin662
😂
Asiana 777 absolutely buttering the bread with that approach/landing
There was absolutely nothing wrong with that Asiana landing - buttery smooth. Well done.
Everyone talking about the Asiana Airlines landing, but noone talking about that HK Airlines freak landing! That took really sick skills.
There was actually very little skill on display. That was pathetic.
@@lbowsk Landing safely is never ever pathetic.
(B777 captain here) I normally hesitate to talk bad about colleagues. But the Hong Kong Airlines pilot unnecessarily applied too much right rudder after landing, and then tried to correct things with a huge rudder input to the left (into the wind -which you normally would never ever do!). Unfortunately it’s solely a case of pilot induced oscillations on the rollout.
In fact, I’m quite surprised, that most comments were about the perfectly normal approach of Asiana to SFO instead.
0:21 landing for real almost together
That Asiana plane landed on the same runway as Asiana flight 214 which makes it even better!
That first clip of parallel landings was sublime poetry in flight- ahhh! Thanks filmer, poster and hoster.
2:45 I would go to that race only for that
The approach into SFO is about as close us regular passengers will get to an aircraft carrier type landing. (Much larger scale at SFO.) Water, water, water, water, land and touchdown.
Except for the sea wall.☹
I actually think OAK just a handful of miles away is a better example.
Just my own eyeballs, but the distance from water to runway threshold seems to be a few feet shorter (and it’s from both approaches , not just approaching 280*)
That was one of the smoothest boeing 777 landings I’ve ever seen!
That cross wind landing had to be one heck of a ride for the passengers. There isn't much lateral restraints on the passenger cabin seats.
At no time did that plane look to low to me🤷
Asiana avoiding the SFO sea wall is genuinely newsworthy
that was a butter smooth landing at a normal height, i praise the pilots for that nice landing
2:15 As a pilot, we are not supposed to land with the “crab angle” like that. We’re supposed to put in the corrective rudder input (right rudder in this case) at the last moment. This is why, the sudden grab of the tires, and the top-over rolling force from the wind can do this.
I've flown virtually every kind of approach and most of the time been able to hit the touchdown zone just right. What makes you question yourself is when you fly a text. Book picture perfect approach and completely mess that zone or land hard. Landings are the best reason to fly.
He did not approach it too low, he was just that good😎
I think this is one of the best 3MA I've seen yet. Thank you!
that's a perfectly executed PRM approach on 28L + R at KSFO! 28L has a straight in ILS, while 28R has a 3°right of centerline offset and a >3° glideslope
Wrong, wrong and wrong. First, PRM approaches are no longer available at SFO. Even if they were, these are obviously visual approaches (clear blue sky) and PRM approaches would still have the airplanes staggered further apart. Both ILS's are straight down the runways at 284 degrees. 28L has a 2.85 degree glideslope while 28R has 3.0 degree glideslope. The 2.85 degree glideslope is why Aisiana looked lower...it's because he was and was supposed to be.
asia almost nailed it perfectly... nothing too low
2:54 anybody else see the helicopter in front of the nose, but 1000 feet up above 787
Yes! I think that helicopter pilot probably shit his pants.
That Hong Kong Airlines A330 looked like it was drifting for a few seconds there.
🎶DEJA VU!! 🚗
@@StephenHogan Never felt this much wind before. (sliding on concrete)
And now I know it's time to slow. (calling you)
And the surface is slippery. (drifting skills are leet)
It's so hard when I try to taxi. Whooooooa!
🤟😆🤟
Sensationalist/deceitful title for a perfect approach and landing!
That wasn’t low, it was PERFECT
OMG!! It was soooo low that it landed in the end! Was that intended?
Awesome. Really great clips. Thanks and thanks to those who captured.
I am always amazed and bewildered at the same time how a crosswind can influence a 200,000lb jet
The Asiana 777 landing 🛬 at SFO in video is just fine. That was how Asiana 214 was suppose to execute the landing 🛬 back in 2013, when it crashed 💥 landed 🛬 .
Asiana and SFO is just a terrifying combination, just like Air Canada and well.. SFO
Big rudder on the Hong Kong airlines landing 😐
I wouldn’t wanted to be in the back of that plane
Aisana: Ready?
SFO: Roger that.
I don't think that Asiana flight had a low approach. It was obviously ahead and thus probably it was low. I feel like the approach was perfect.
I think you've become the best youtuber - not from reposting other people's aviation clips, but with false and misleading headlines. That's no easy feat, good job!
That plane from the first clip wasn't "too low". It wasn't any lower than the other plane (from which it was recorded).
Well, it WAS slightly lower but only because it was slightly ahead on descend. The second plane would be at the same altitude but like a second later.
You can see that their touchdowns were on the same point of their corresponding runways
Actually, it’s not too low. As you might notice that aircraft is at approximately the same height as the airplane that it is being filmed from.
That F1 low pass was just the pilot wanting to see for himself that Alonso was on the podium!
So it wasn’t too low
That first one was a very smooth and comfortable landing for the passengers
hong kong airlines: HELP WE'RE GONNA DIE!!!
japan airlines: tf are they doing
1:23 me as a private student in calm winds during my first TOL lessons
Though it was gonna be a recreation of Asiana 214 flight (the First one)
2:23 Oh no, the centerline is on fire!
thats pretty darn smooth touch down
Amazing how a 'too low' jet liner makes a text book landing.
We landed at SFO in a 737. We passed a lower flying 747 on our final approach.
However, by the time we were really close to landing, the 747 passed us, landing slightly ahead of us.
Very strange!
747 is heavier and has a higher landing speed than the 737
What he said☝
@@LuizHartkopf Not always. The 737-900 often has landing speeds higher than a 747.
lets not talk about what happened on that runway 10 years ago
Bro was about to repeat history 💀
2:41 some Finnish man angry "There were hearing protectors there before, you gave zero fucks before we got here"
Asiana was not “too low”…. The parallel aircraft was behind by enough distance that at normal descent rates the trailing aircraft would be about 75 ft higher, which it was.
Yep, ILS PRM approach. These videos are deceiving
@@sg-yq8pm another wonderful person who can’t argue facts so goes straight to name calling.
So in conclusion, the plane was not approaching too low?
That airline has learned not to get behind the power curve and low going into SFO. The SWA may have been a bit high to remain above any wake turbulence that might have rolled over into their glide path, also, even though they weren't that far behind the B772.
Wasn't a swa, this is an old video as the plane the video belongs to is a Virgin America A320
2:20 I almost felt a sympathetic tummy tickle just watching that! 😮
That was a beautiful double formation landing.
Also, remembering when the remarkable thing about a Boeing flyby wasn't that nothing fell off!
Hey, at least this time, Asiana actually cleared SFO's seawall.
So they have that going for them, which is nice.
a Perfect Touchdown would be hitting the Aimpoint Hashes - the big THICK lines they just flew over.
Close enough though :)
Now that's a butter landing if I ever did see one!
Yeah the last one, been there twice, i swear I only enjoyed going to F1 just to witness gulf Air flying so low, 😂✈️❤️ and food ofc😋
Me seeing an Asiana 777 having a low approach at SFO
You’d better believe that Asiana flight was spot on! They remember Asiana Flight 214 on the same approach!
I have been on that exact approach to SFO. I will admit it is unsettling to get so close to the water with no runway in sight, but then such a relief once the land shoots into frame from underneath.
This reminds me of when I went on holiday.
I was on a BA a320-200 and there was a321 landing parallel
Someone here is not knowledgable about approach altitudes at KSFO. That was perfectly fine you didnt notice that both jets were nearly identical in their altitude parallel to each other.