Kinnock takes on Militant - Labour Conference speech 1985
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2020
- Excerpts from Neil Kinnock's speech to the 1985 Labour Party Conference in Bournemouth, with corrected audio.
Full transcript: www.britishpoliticalspeech.org...
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"We want to honour our undertakings in full in every area of policy. We want to say what we mean and mean what we say. We want to keep our promises, and because we want to do that it is essential that we don’t make false promises.
I want to respond to many of those calls, in practice - not in words, but in actions. But there is of course a pre-condition to honouring those or any other undertaking that we give. That pre-condition is unavoidable, total and insurmountable, and it is a pre-condition that in this movement we do not want to surmount. It is the pre-condition that we win a general election.
There are some in our movement who, when I say that we must reach out in that fashion, accuse me of an obsession with electoral politics;
I say to them and I say to everybody else, and I mean it from the depths of my soul: there is no need to compromise values, there is no need in this task to surrender our socialism, there is no need to abandon or even try to hide any of our principles, but there is an implacable need to win and there is an equal need for us to understand that we address an electorate which is sceptical, an electorate which needs convincing, a British public who want to know that our idealism is not lunacy, our realism is not timidity, our eagerness is not extremism, a British public who want to know that our carefulness too is not nervousness.
I remind you, every one of you, of something that every single one of you said in the desperate days before June 9, 1983. You said to each other on the streets, you said to each other in the cars rushing round, you said to each other in the committee rooms: elections are not won in weeks, they are won in years. (Applause) That is what you said to each other. That is what you have got to remember: not in future weeks or future years; this year, this week, this Conference, now - this is where we start winning elections, not waiting until the returning officer is ready.
Fourthly, I shall tell you again what you know. Because you are from the people, because you are of the people, because you live with the same realities as everybody else lives with, implausible promises don’t win victories. I’ll tell you what happens with impossible promises. You start with far-fetched resolutions. They are then pickled into a rigid dogma, a code, and you go through the years sticking to that, out-dated, mis-placed, irrelevant to the real needs, and you end up in the grotesque chaos of a Labour council hiring taxis to scuttle round a city handing out redundancy notices to its own workers. (Applause)
I am telling you, no matter how entertaining, how fulfilling to short-term egos - (Continuing applause) - you can’t play politics with people’s jobs and with people’s services or with their homes. (Applause and some boos)
Comrades, the voice of the people - not the people here; the voice of the real people with real needs - is louder than all the boos that can be assembled. Understand that, please, comrades. In your socialism, in your commitment to those people, understand it. The people will not, cannot, abide posturing. They cannot respect the gesture-generals or the tendency-tacticians.
Comrades, it seems to me lately that some of our number become like latter-day public school-boys. It seems it matters not whether you won or lost, but how you played the game. (Applause) We cannot take that inspiration from Rudyard Kipling. (Continuing applause)
I say to you in complete honesty, because this is the movement that I belong to, that I owe this party everything I have got - not the job, not being leader of the Labour Party, but every life chance that I have had since the time I was a child: (Applause) the life chance of a comfortable home, with working parents, people who had jobs; the life chance of moving out of a pest and damp-infested set of rooms into a decent home, built by a Labour council under a Labour Government; the life chance of an education that went on for as long as I wanted to take it. Me and millions of others of my generation got all their chances from this movement. (Applause)
We have got to win, not for our sakes, but really, truly to deliver the British people from evil. Let’s do it. (Standing ovation)"
"I have always been of the opinion that unpopularity earned by doing what is right is not unpopularity at all, but glory."
*-- Marcus Tullis Cicero, Letters. 60 B.C.*
Cicero failed to stop his democracy from sliding into dictatorship. Being "right" is not more important that winning; you can only do right if you're the one holding office.
@@politicalphilosophy-thegre3894 Hitler said that too.
The roar of relief from the crowd. At last we were hearing the truth
A red tory
Historical speech. Foot and Castle applauding at the end if you notice. Labour's recovery from the 83 disaster began
And Dennis Skinner not applauding.
they lost two elections after this, second one to john major
@@AjayESharma It was ground breaking for Labour.
Aiming to be in Govt. Aiming to be in power, to effect change.
Very few in Lab are interested in Govt or responsibility.
The irony of Corbyn and Rayner now. Starmer Kinnock/major
Tbf it wouldn't have been such a disaster if the right hadn't split, the socdems should've stayed in Labour then 1983 would be little more than a normal defeat.
I have always been a Tory yet I thought this one of the best speeches I ever heard. I was listening to it whilst doing some artwork on a table in my parents home. Neil came across so genuine and commanding. Hatton and the rest of the low life booing him. I didn't agree with his policies but as a man and politician I think he was 100% decent and genuine. The most likeable leader the Labour Party ever had!
Agreed completely
How can you be a Tory when you think he is decent and genuine?
@@davidgroom9667 Because you can like someone even if you disagree with their politics
@@Matt-cz6ti
How can you disagree with his politics?
Being a Tory is why you liked it.
What a star.
An honest and honourable man who would have made a wonderful pm
One of the best PMs we never had.
We really missed out. He felt like a shoe in at the time.
I woke the next day confused and bummed.
My girlfriend was almost suicidal.
Bad times.
He was so much the better choice.
Luv and Peace.
A weak man who tossed aside his principles and beliefs in the quest for power. Britons contrasted him with the conviction politics of Thatcher. Add to this the fact that whilst he may have been a great orator, as a man in a position of power he would have been a disaster. The public later watched the Sheffield Rally and knew he was not a serious option for government.
Bollocks
@@Boomboom-xm5su The shouting in this amateurish oration shows his lack of control over his own party. Not to mention the "Citizen Smith" speak of "comrades"
@@Boomboom-xm5su You clearly do not know what you are talking about. He would have been a competent PM. Read the chapter in Steve Richards' book about Prime Ministers we never had. The Sheffield Rally was praised at the time- it is only afterwards that retrospective criticism has been applied. It made no difference at all to the result. In fact, the election was lost earlier in the year due to the Tories lies about Labour's tax plans under John Smith's Shadow Budget. The average family would have been better off in truth but Tory propaganda worked, as it usually does.
Kinnock was a brave man. A great speech.
Now he's a multi millionaire socialist.
@@andrewh5457 I am sure there are some poor Torys about.
@@MrGranfield a poor Conservative isn’t nearly as much of a contradiction as a champagne socialist
@@paddystrongjaw9995 Point is you dunce he sold out and was only champagne...no socialism involved.
@@andrewh5457 You can be wealthy and have socialist ideas.
That's as good a political speech as there has been in my lifetime. Absolutely superb.
Utterly magnificent. Sadly, he failed at every turn - leaving us in the sorry and disgusting state we now find ourselves. Tragic also that he managed to shed virtually every principle he once held.
@@jbmuggins8815 Pretended to hold
I agree
@@stephenholmes1036 With whom?
It took real guts, this should be shown to USA, just as a reminder of what real political courage looks like...
He lost. He was a flop
Kinnock was a gutless idiot who paved the way for Labour's permissive attitude towards the right. He won nothing, and achieved nothing.
An American politician did see this speech and used parts of it for his own campaign.
If only Starmer had half the charisma and passion as Kinnock
And greed.
Yeah? What then? Socialism?
@@feolender2938 Why not? What's wrong with that? Eh?
@@nigel4776 sooner or later you run out of other people's money to spend.
@@feolender2938 that's when you start spending rich people's money
We can only dream of having politicians like this today. What we have is absolute dross and a reserve team for a debating club.
He wasn’t perfect but a brutally brilliant attack on Militant at the time and a message to the modern generation that if you want to effect change you have to have passion in your conviction and mobilise the masses , there’s no point whinging from the sidelines.
True, you can always sell out on your values and capitulate to thatchernomics. Cue 1997 and the hollow landslide warming the seat for Cameron-Clegg.
@@baronmeduse So Blair and Brown did no good at all?
@@paul1979uk I'm not saying the aims were bad, but they threw in their lot with monetarism as 'can't beat 'em, join 'em, strategy and somehow hoped it wouldn't turn out the same. Brown essentially aimed to 'reassure business' or Thatcherite voters that he could be as fiscally 'rectitudinous' as the previous Tories, whilst offering better outcomes.
@@baronmeduse I think your perhaps a little too cynical , this was a clear attack on militant at the time , and his overarching point was the left had no future in small splinter groups whose main aims appeared to be to oppose everything and stand for nothing. For his faults Kinnock understood if he you are going to enact change you can’t do it in the form of pressure groups you have to win popular support to earn the right to your politics . His policies were not Blairite or Thatcherite he just never had the chance to bring them to bear . And let’s be fair John Smith inherited a party that was highly electable but still stood true to the politics of the British labour movement that its founding fathers would have been proud of , sadly he never had the opportunities to see them through.
@@rg5107 That's not true to history. It's already recorded that Kinnock succumbed to monetarist cant as so many did and have. In fact exactly the same trajectory as Blair and co (whom he supported 100%). And which effected no change worth talking about. It merely laid the foundations for future trouble. As Benn said, Kinnock gave up all his beliefs aiming for office with the result that no-one believed a bloody word he said afterwards. You can't build a Labour govt on Thatchernomics (monetarism/New Monetary Consensus/neoliberalism). Current Labour - Kinnock's heirs - still haven't learned this. Too busy telling fairy stories to gain middle class votes instead of explaining why the position is unworkable.
Kinnock made Labour electable. And the speechwriter was the man sitting behind him, almost embarrassed by the applause - MANDELSON.
Kinnock wrote the speech
@@opera1dan2 Rubbish.
Mandelson’s fingerprints were all over it.
@@jintsfan I wouldn’t care if they were but in this case Kinnock wrote it.
The man sitting behind him was Denis Skinner. Not embarrassed but hacked off as he was very much of the militant left.
The Tories made themselves unelectable.
Such powerful oratory and vision. If only we had some of this today.
!! Brave , Brilliant , Best Speech Ever by a Labour Leader. Delivered with passion from the heart . Saved Labour from total meltdown. To think he never became Prime Minister .
As a Scouse Labour voters I have to say Kinnock was the best PM we never had. Derek Hatton and his cronies were shitbags who thought they could do whatever they wanted.
In power you make change
And if you have to leave all the good things behind to get here, you’ve failed
What a speech 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Brilliant speech
is there a video anywhere of the entire speech?
Strong leadership Britain deserves
I see Dennis Skinner and Joan Maynard pretending to be busy to avoid applauding.
The voice of the people is drowned out by those who are in power. He was right about many things.
Whatever you think of Neil Kinnock, at least he lived in the real world, which is more than could be said of some others in the Labour Party, then or now.
Kissinger is also a realist. Not a great company
What real world lol? The real world this new Labour built? A world of austerity, homeless and poverty. How "realistic" of him
@niallgannon1452 So how's that socialism thing going for you then? Seen any evidence of the British people voting for it in the past 45 years?
A truly great orator is a fine thing to behold. Shame we ain't got none left
Classic speech and none better than the line of public school boys and how u played the game of socialism more important than winning or losing.
I'm an independent who opposed Kinnock on the European Union, But this speech was needed and was one of the best I've heard.
I respected Joan Maynard and Dennis Skinner but they got this wrong about militant
He spoke from the heart, & knew labour HAD to be electable
He lost. He failed
Twice. @@sunseeker9581
@@sunseeker9581dude you’re in every comment 😂😂
@@Mojo1701 too many kinnock fan boys who should be in the lib dems
by turning into tory lite, congrats
Privatisation of council contracts is millitant
That was a superb speech!
No wonder Joe Biden stole his speech back in the day!
I've never been a massive Neil Kinnock fan but he did stick the boot into the milliant left a great speach
What is a speach?
Succulent Peach
Great man 👏
For the Tories
Kinnock would’ve been a great PM
“To deliver the British people from Evil”…powerful statement and one of the greatest speeches ever by a politician on these shores. ❤️.x
Kinnock betrayed Labour.
Some balls to use the word ‘comrades’
Neil Kinnock is a son of a coal miner and a nurse, he went to a comphrehensive school, to Cardiff University. His career was in worker further education. Compare it to Tony Benn, who was literally born in Westminster and went to a public school, and studied at Oxford. Neil Kinnock had more right to use that word than all of his opponents combined.
@@LIETUVIS10STUDIO1 He sold out the workers. He could have affiliated the Labour Party with the miners. He chose not to. Instead he got a seat in the House of Lords for services rendered to the moneyed classes. Now he is rich
Bitter little idiots like Bitterman are the reasons labour were unelectable for eons. Another halfwit without a grip of reality
John Smith is the man who could have delivered this country out of this financial mess
That is what my dear late Dad said, but then we got Blair and brown who catastrophically nearly bankrupted Britain
@@Dusty2feathers The financial mess spilled out 14 years after John Smith's death. Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling had a rescue plan that would have clawed us back from the consequences of the global crash. If you think that Brown bankrupted Britain then you have let someone else do your homeork.
@@Dusty2feathersthe global financial crash that started in the US did that.
The greatest political speech of my lifetime.
see Michael Foot and Barbara Castle applauding at 6.09 on here
Powerful
It is interesting to see who is clapping and who is not.
Watch the reaction of Joan Maynard and Dennis Skinner at the end of the speech
He made The Labour party face up to the truth. And the truth was it HAD to change or die.
i remember that day well , he saved the party
Bollocks!
Saved the party from what? Being an actual opposition to the tories? Lol, what utter shite
He took on militant. He failed to take on the Tories and he was put in the HoL. Despite not winning in 92.
As a young labour voter, I wish Sir Kier was bit like neil kinnock, telling the far left how it is in the Labour Party!
so you want an impotent leader who mounted no challenge to the tory's. Oppose the tory's in words only but offer a slightly less harmful platform; and expell the grassroots left who campaign directly against the torys policies (in this case the anti-poll tax movement, which prior to the millitant the kinnock labour party didnt oppose)
@@emilewilmar4919 "the grassroots left who campaign" - don't talk nonsense. As a Labour Party member of 40 years standing I've yet to see this "grassroots left" coming out at election time to knock on doors or deliver leaflets, they think elections are won by haranguing members of the public with megaphones at shopping centres or by going on demonstrations. Over my 40 years membership I've hardly ever seen this so-called grassroots left get off their arses and do some real campaign work.
@JoeyLisle You mean the same Neil Kinnock who won 30.8% in 1987 and 34.4% in 1992, with a falling party membership? As opposed to Jeremy Corbyn's 40% in 2017, who increased Labour's membership from 200,000 to 600,000?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_United_Kingdom_general_election
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_United_Kingdom_general_election
@@politicalphilosophy-thegre3894 Ah yes but the vast majority of those new members under Corbyn were entryists and Trots - the kind of people we don't want and who will hopefully be weeded out and expelled under Starmer. Now where did I put my ice pick.
The Hindenburg disasters was also quite the spectacle. Don't think I'd wish to be inside it at the time...
Why do we not get passion like this in politics now?
Because Thatcherite neoliberalism defeated socialism. In the eighties there was still an ideological battle about how society and the economy should be organised. Blair capitulated to Thatcherism accepting her settlement. She described 'new' Labour as her greatest achievement. The triumph of neoliberalism since 1979 has destroyed Britain- the consequences are clear to see all around us- private affluence, public squalor. Kinnock was right in his warnings but the electorate, under FPTP, ignored him. Their folly.
@@eightiesmusic1984 That's true, but we also got the professionalisation of politics. We still get people from different work backgrounds in parliament, but the front benches are always people with PPE degrees, who went on the political career ladder in their teens.
@@GordonHudsonThe well trodden path from PPE to special advisor and then Labour seat is part of the problem but the number of MPs from low income backgrounds is miniscule. This is to be expected from the Tories but it is across the board.
@@eightiesmusic1984 In Scotland, the leaders of Labour and the SNP went to the same fee paying School, Hutchesons' Grammar School.
@@eightiesmusic1984the current shadow cabinet would be by far the most working class cabinet in modern history, with a small minority having been to private school and the majority having been to state schools.
You tell em Neil !!
One of the most important and influential speeches in Labour history - lead the way to New Labour and 3 successive election victories.
No, Tory in-fighting over Europe and corruption-related scandals is what led to three successive election victories for Labour.
Both Glenys and Deidre Barlow sitting behind him agree with every word
😂😂😂
Dandy Nicholls also.
Because Glenys probably wrote it.
Oh how the crowd roared
Starmer should take notes and kick out Militant’s successor Momentum
He must of read this.
What a speech - what a man!
Nice to see a slightly hungover Freddie Murcury listening on at 1:12... labour through and through
The sad thing is the party didn’t learn and that’s why the party is in the same mess again. Those that don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it. It saddens me.
Let me guess: you're one of those who believes the nonsense about 'long Corbyn'.
@@davidparry5310your man lost 5 & 8 years ago. Move on.
@@UA-cammessedupmyhandle 8 years ago? I don't recall there being a general election in 2016.
I love seeing Eric Hefner walk out
This man as much as anyone was responsible for the landslide election winning New Labour machine. He was a giant of politics unlucky enough to be welsh in an Electoral system dominated by little England. Without Kinnock there’s be no John smith and therefore no Blair. Pls don’t embarrass yourself by mentioning Iraq’s that had nothing to to with Kinnock. The new hospitals, schools (the astonishingly successful and cost effective new start), minimum wage etc we’re all Kinnock’s embryos. But for English prejudice (and I’m more English than anything else) he could have been the best prime-minister in decades.
The Tories undermining themselves through in-fighting and corruption-related scandals bears far more responsibility for Labour's '97 win than Blair does.
I agree that anti Welsh prejudice was a problem for Kinnock when he was leader. Little Englanders, mainly in the South, have such a lot to answer for. I too am English, but cannot stand the place for the ways its history has unfolded since 1979 as a laboratory for the neoliberal wrecking ball that has destroyed society. Let's face it, the Tory party is an organised conspiracy in plain sight whose purpose is to protect the rich. It manages to fool the majority ( under FPTP) into voting for it or not supporting moderate, democratic socialism. The public have the system they deserve, dreadful though it is.
Starving the miners of jobs and food is millitant
He was spot on here and it was quite a surprise to me when Labour lost the 1992 GE.
That should kind of tell you that all that witch-hunting of Militant supporters was for nothing, and spare me the bollocks about how Kinnock paved the way for the '97 GE victory. The Tories had made themselves unelectable through in-fighting and corruption-related scandals.
@@davidparry5310 it certainly wasn’t for nothing, in away the narrow tory victory of 1992 was a blessing in disguise for Labour, it led to different tory factions infighting paving the way for an easy Labour win in 1997. Im sure John Smith would have been a greater prime minister but unfortunately it was not to be and Blair mopped up
@@mikerainham As we're seeing right now, it isn't impossible for an incumbent party with a huge majority to undermine itself through in-fighting and scandals.
@@davidparry5310 As we say in 1983 it’s impossible for labour to win when it follows hard left socialist ideas, despite 3.2 million unemployed labour lost heavily in 1983. In 2019 labour lost heavily again after its daft second referendum pledge and unfounded ideas like broadband for all. I don’t like the tories much but left win candidates don’t do well
@@mikerainham The reason for both of those defeats is that crises of capitalism always end up benefiting the reactionary right the most.
And it took another 12 years to get in good job...
That went well.
The tories won time after time.
I miss Old Labour.
I am curious as to why Michael Foot invited Dame Edna Everidge along as his plus-one.
Steve Coogan brought me here.
I had the great pleasure to meet him twice ( once when i was a dodgy little kid) such a nice man.
Most powerful political speech I've ever heard.
The House of Lords must go - not be reformed, not be replaced, not be reborn in some nominated life-after-death patronage paradise, just closed down, abolished, finished. Baron Kinnock of Bedwellty
And what do you do with the upper house? Have an elected senate instead? Westminster system is best with both a upper and lower house.
@@lucastaylor2321 Australia already has that
@@jonasmejerpedersen4847
It's a much better system than what we have in Britain I agree.
It's astonishing to me that here in the 21st century we still have an unelected House of Lords voting on laws.
But I wouldn't stop with abolishing only the Lords.... I'd also reform the Commons and start with getting get rid of this ridiculous PFTP voting system we have.
02:55 ?? Who was mr grumpy?
Eric Heffer, hero of the hard left, who though in my opinion misguided, stuck to its agenda to the end.
@@petermckerrow7694 thanks. NEVER heard of him!
Eric Heffer MP (Liverpool, Walton). He was Minister of State for Industry when Wilson was PM and shadow posts. Left wing.
One of the best speeches in Labour's history, had to be said to root out the militant idiots.
Tony Blair's 1997 election landslide would never have happened if Neil Kinnock hadn't acted and spoke out.
Labour had ceased to be socialist when it scrapped Clause IV.
Looking back, I feel honoured to have been amongst those in the hall when he made that historic speech.
Glenys Kinnock RIP
Whatever you think of Kinnock he was an orator of the highest order.
You just don’t get this inspiring stuff any more.
The Welsh Windbag.
Incredible politican. Listen to him and for God's sake vote Labour and Kier 4th July
Labour enabled and covered up child abuse.
Starmer would have been one of those left wing pricks Kinnock loathes
Starmer truly is the right man at the right time
@@rw3899 Starmer is lucky.
Starmer's Labour is not Kinnock's Labour. The Lib Dems have a far more impressive manifesto this time around. I'll vote Labour when they pledge to lift the two-child benefit cap.
Privatisation public transport is millitant
Kinnock would've been a fantastic PM
He betrayed the miners.
@@MarkHarrison733They've all betrayed the miners, scargill the worse
@@MarkHarrison733They've all did
Scargill was the worse
Brilliant. He turned Labour around, country would be so much better had Kinnock been PM
if he hadnt resigned in 1992, he would have been pm by 1995 im sure of it
..... I WISH HE WAS BACK NOW!!
Phil. Liverpool UK 🇬🇧
@@philipwilliams2310 The 97 were killed by Liverpool fans.
Steve Coogan brought me to this.
I can't hear you mate!
Damn good speech.
A decent man.
He betrayed the miners.
And what happened? He lost
Liverpool was shat on then. Fair play degsy
Incredible passion, great speech. 80s politics was the bollocks with him and Maggie going toe toe. Almost 40 years on and compare that to the shit show that heads up the parties of al colours today.
*_well alright_*
Should be printed on membership cards
Council housing is safe housing
A powerful speech- on the Nationalist Right today there are too many obsessed with purity spiraling nonsense than actually being pragmatic, being relevant to the Normies & WINNING
Brexit was a far-fetched resolution...
Outdated in ‘85 and continue to be so in ‘21.
It was Neil Kinnock who paved the way for Tony Blair to win.
Lord Kinnock began the destruction of Labour.
Millitant is conservative policies look at Britain now
Back when Labour actually stood for something.
Notice unsmiling Dennis Skinner and stone-faced Joan Maynard behind him.
Councils across the land in safe houses
Neil was brave.
Without kinnock , there wouldn’t have been a Blair or new labour
Skinner and the lady behind looked very uncomfortable
Militant Miliband
... and wins.
He made that speech with Welsh nonconformist zeal today he is lord Kinnock he had a good job in the EU He forgot to stay by his principles. Mr Skinner did not and has not I don't always agree with Mr Skinner or did but he stood by his convictions
Skinner's vision of Labour was unelectable.
I’m torn about Kinnock. Amazing charisma as shown in this speech and he was right to take on the hard left But there is also the point made by Tony Benn that Kinnock and the Labour Party review from 1987-1992 ended by changing their position on nearly everything they had espoused before (nationalization, unilateral disarmament etc) which had the effect of people not trusting Labour. It was a catch 22.l
This is not even taking into consideration his fat cat years with the EU.
I'm not sure what you're torn about? Labour's position when kinnock took over was catastrophic. The policies Tony Benn defended were massively unpopular with the public. Kinnock had a stark choice. Either change and actually become relevent to the wider public, or watch Labour die and be replaced by the SDP.
@@th8257 the point is to mould popular opinion around policy not just see the latest opinion polls and give up all your principles because of the latest poll
By changing their position they went on to win 3 general elections. Kinnock spent most of his time in office fighting the militant left and the public just didn't trust the party enough to let them hold the purse strings again. Starmer is having to fight the same demons but he isn't nearly as good an orator as Kinnock and is far less convincing in his style. It seems the quality of politicians of the past were vastly superior to todays, on both sides of the house.
Neil Kinnock is a son of a coal miner and a nurse, he went to a comphrehensive school, to Cardiff University. His career was in worker further education. Compare it to Tony Benn, who was literally born in Westminster and went to a public school, and studied at Oxford. Tony Benn ought to shut up.
@@LIETUVIS10STUDIO1. So someone that was born and raised in another class (which he can’t help ) can’t be right ?
Plus Kinnock has certainly become a very wealthy man
I know someone in the audience who drives a brand new range rover with his name on the number plate
2:02 Kinnock says it like it is!
Did I spy a young Jeremy Corbin flouncing out of Conference? 🤔
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