I kinda can't forgive myself either. Mirage meant so much to me. But filler was a problem there. Even they admit they weren't in the right frame of mind recording the album - walking on eggshells to avoid conflict, etc. I'm glad you liked the video. Speaking of Mirage, I'm working on my Best of the 80's video. I hope to get it on by next weekend - around the 21st
22:34 Ok yeah the wall has definetly some fille ron its and its not even in my top 4 22:36 Oh....my second favorite album of no time which i consider to have no filler :D
Tango In The Night could easily have been a great double album as the b-sides and other unused tracks featured in the Delux edition are every bit as good as the origional tracks. Tango In The Night is my favorite album
@@classicrockbeagle Actually it was first time getting into Fleetwood Mac. Tango In The Night was a huge hit over here in Ireland and the UK. Entered the Number 1 spot 3 times between 1987 and 1988
“Eyes of the World: decent” “Bad: That’s Alright” *explain* I don’t mean to say anything mean or aggressive by this, hell, I subscribed when you referenced David Palmer. I just don’t get how that t h i n g is better than That’s Alright.
I always thought That's Alright was hokey. Eyes of the World is an awful song in its melody and in Lindsey burping the word Eyes. But the guitar interlude was pretty good and his solo at the end was really good. When Lindsey feels like doing an extended solo at the end, it usually kicks the song up an extra notch re. I'm So Afraid. I mentioned in my Best Songs of the teens that as much as I loved Carnival Begin, I'm not sure it would have made the list, at least as high as it went, except for Lindsey's solo at the end. And the ending solo actually was effective in that ghastly song.
@Classic Rock Beagle that’s actually a really good reason. Agreed with everything else as well, love seeing Hold Me at the top since it has my favorite music video for any song ever
I appreciate your perspective and thanks for sharing it. Time to me was one of the best songs they released in the 90's. Admittedly, my dislike for Bekka's singing is a matter of taste. Belting can be done well, but is usually not done well - like falsetto. I also thought Mason was not a good replacement for Vito. Rick Vito is one hell of a musician, and Mason is a better songwriter than a guitarist. It kind of reminded me of when Bob Welch took over lead guitar. Again, thanks for sharing your take
I would say that Mr. Wonderful is simultaneously better than its reputation and also deserves it entirely. They absolutely nailed the lo-fi 50s Chess sound on the production, and half of the album is pretty great, with the smoldering "Love That Burns", the raucous "Stop Messing Round", the perfectly understated "Trying So Hard to Forget", and a great rendering of "Dust My Broom". But the other half thoroughly shoots itself in the foot. All four variations on "Dust My Broom" are worthy of inclusion individually, but including all of them was a major mistake. Several other songs are pretty generic and uninspired. Take out tracks 6-11, and it's a killer EP that is an improvement on the debut. As is, it's still one of the most authentic sounding British blues albums ever made. But not a great listen on the whole. I'd say that the Chicago album has a few truly great tracks, but editing it to be shorter would have helped greatly.
Peter Green in his prime can't help but be great. But I thought the experimentation worked against him, unlike later works. Well said about J: his trick is a pretty good one - one that I tried to copy while learning the guitar. But he goes to that well too often.
@@classicrockbeagle I shall continue to comment as I proceed. Though I have relatively little to say about Mirage. I find "Gypsy" to be the standout track, with no other song matching it, though "Hold Me" does come close. If not for that, I would consider it one slight step below Heroes Are Hard to Find, though I find them on similar levels.
While I wouldn't say Kiln House is quite one of their best, it is one of my favorites. I agree on all of Danny's tracks, but I diverge on Jeremy's. The 50s rock is handled really well. "Buddy's Song" is maybe the best tribute to him ever recorded, and "This Is the Rock" is fun and somehow both energetic and laid-back, "Hi-Ho Silver" rocks, "One Together" is his lone moment of truly great songwriting, and it and "Mission Bell" are absolutely beautiful. Not being a fan of country, my lone gripe is "Blood on the Floor", and even then, the production and arrangement on it floors me anyway. I do think its over the top parodic nature is a bit out of step with the rest of the album being more sincere, but then I hear how spot on the piano or backing vocals are. I find that Danny and Jeremy's mutual enjoyment of much older music and the fun they had playing together comes across, and I quite like the mix of music. Side note: I don't think Christine played any keyboard on this, just vocals and artwork. All keys are Jeremy, as far as I can tell.
I generally agree with your placement of Mirage, but I'd probably place it over Behind the Mask or Say You Will. Neither of which I have anything to say about. I tend to lose enthusiasm for the Mac by Tango when I listen through, and go back to the pre 1975 albums. On the debut, I only have to add that the rhythm section on "Looking for Somebody" is TASTY, "World Keep On Turning" is a great subdued track, "Long Grey Mare" is fun, and "I Loved Another Woman" is fantastic and the song I use to test reverb. Main drawback: no legendary slow blues on the order of "Love That Burns" of "Fool No More".
You know, Lamb wasn't an album I grew up listening to. Each time I listened to it, it had highlights to be sure, but I also remember drifting in and out. I'll take this as a Genesis Album Rank request, so I can maybe listen to it more analytically. Maybe I'll find it more even with a deeper listen.
@@classicrockbeagle That would be awesome! My favorite albums by Genesis are tied between Selling England, The Lamb, and Trick of the Tail, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on their discography. Great video btw, I'm glad to see a Fleetwood Mac ranking on their entire discography
HANDS. DOWN. MYSTERY TO ME THE BEST ALBUM I LOVE THIS VIDEO AND WHY IS SO GOOD
I love this so much, you rank each song, a lot of reviews don't do that, and it's so great
I'll never forgive you for Mirage ranking though, ugh
I kinda can't forgive myself either. Mirage meant so much to me. But filler was a problem there. Even they admit they weren't in the right frame of mind recording the album - walking on eggshells to avoid conflict, etc. I'm glad you liked the video. Speaking of Mirage, I'm working on my Best of the 80's video. I hope to get it on by next weekend - around the 21st
Hey, really enjoyed this, look forward to more
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Glad you enjoyed it. Best of the 80's coming up today or tomorrow
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Ok yeah the wall has definetly some fille ron its and its not even in my top 4
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Oh....my second favorite album of no time which i consider to have no filler :D
I address this assessment of the Lamb in my Genesis Album Rank. Be sure to check it out
I had The Wall at Number 5. Check out my Pink Floyd Album Rank
Tango In The Night could easily have been a great double album as the b-sides and other unused tracks featured in the Delux edition are every bit as good as the origional tracks.
Tango In The Night is my favorite album
Great choice. How did you deal with the five years leading up to it?
@@classicrockbeagle Actually it was first time getting into Fleetwood Mac. Tango In The Night was a huge hit over here in Ireland and the UK. Entered the Number 1 spot 3 times between 1987 and 1988
thanks for this...interesting!
Say You Love Me is/was a great song, one of Christine's best ever
Can't argue with that. I use that song as my mic check
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“Eyes of the World: decent”
“Bad: That’s Alright”
*explain*
I don’t mean to say anything mean or aggressive by this, hell, I subscribed when you referenced David Palmer. I just don’t get how that t h i n g is better than That’s Alright.
I always thought That's Alright was hokey. Eyes of the World is an awful song in its melody and in Lindsey burping the word Eyes. But the guitar interlude was pretty good and his solo at the end was really good. When Lindsey feels like doing an extended solo at the end, it usually kicks the song up an extra notch re. I'm So Afraid. I mentioned in my Best Songs of the teens that as much as I loved Carnival Begin, I'm not sure it would have made the list, at least as high as it went, except for Lindsey's solo at the end. And the ending solo actually was effective in that ghastly song.
@Classic Rock Beagle that’s actually a really good reason. Agreed with everything else as well, love seeing Hold Me at the top since it has my favorite music video for any song ever
@@waldornprime5567 you ain't lying. I talk more about Hold Me in the CRB's Best Songs of the 80's video. Next up, btw, Best Songs of the 70's.
@@classicrockbeagle sick
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I love time and i think Hollywood is one of christines best songs. So tired of this album getting crapped on
I appreciate your perspective and thanks for sharing it. Time to me was one of the best songs they released in the 90's. Admittedly, my dislike for Bekka's singing is a matter of taste. Belting can be done well, but is usually not done well - like falsetto. I also thought Mason was not a good replacement for Vito. Rick Vito is one hell of a musician, and Mason is a better songwriter than a guitarist. It kind of reminded me of when Bob Welch took over lead guitar. Again, thanks for sharing your take
I would say that Mr. Wonderful is simultaneously better than its reputation and also deserves it entirely. They absolutely nailed the lo-fi 50s Chess sound on the production, and half of the album is pretty great, with the smoldering "Love That Burns", the raucous "Stop Messing Round", the perfectly understated "Trying So Hard to Forget", and a great rendering of "Dust My Broom". But the other half thoroughly shoots itself in the foot. All four variations on "Dust My Broom" are worthy of inclusion individually, but including all of them was a major mistake. Several other songs are pretty generic and uninspired. Take out tracks 6-11, and it's a killer EP that is an improvement on the debut. As is, it's still one of the most authentic sounding British blues albums ever made. But not a great listen on the whole.
I'd say that the Chicago album has a few truly great tracks, but editing it to be shorter would have helped greatly.
Peter Green in his prime can't help but be great. But I thought the experimentation worked against him, unlike later works. Well said about J: his trick is a pretty good one - one that I tried to copy while learning the guitar. But he goes to that well too often.
@@classicrockbeagle I shall continue to comment as I proceed. Though I have relatively little to say about Mirage. I find "Gypsy" to be the standout track, with no other song matching it, though "Hold Me" does come close. If not for that, I would consider it one slight step below Heroes Are Hard to Find, though I find them on similar levels.
@@bfish89ryuhayabusa I caught HELL for putting Mirage this low
While I wouldn't say Kiln House is quite one of their best, it is one of my favorites. I agree on all of Danny's tracks, but I diverge on Jeremy's. The 50s rock is handled really well. "Buddy's Song" is maybe the best tribute to him ever recorded, and "This Is the Rock" is fun and somehow both energetic and laid-back, "Hi-Ho Silver" rocks, "One Together" is his lone moment of truly great songwriting, and it and "Mission Bell" are absolutely beautiful. Not being a fan of country, my lone gripe is "Blood on the Floor", and even then, the production and arrangement on it floors me anyway. I do think its over the top parodic nature is a bit out of step with the rest of the album being more sincere, but then I hear how spot on the piano or backing vocals are. I find that Danny and Jeremy's mutual enjoyment of much older music and the fun they had playing together comes across, and I quite like the mix of music.
Side note: I don't think Christine played any keyboard on this, just vocals and artwork. All keys are Jeremy, as far as I can tell.
I generally agree with your placement of Mirage, but I'd probably place it over Behind the Mask or Say You Will. Neither of which I have anything to say about. I tend to lose enthusiasm for the Mac by Tango when I listen through, and go back to the pre 1975 albums.
On the debut, I only have to add that the rhythm section on "Looking for Somebody" is TASTY, "World Keep On Turning" is a great subdued track, "Long Grey Mare" is fun, and "I Loved Another Woman" is fantastic and the song I use to test reverb. Main drawback: no legendary slow blues on the order of "Love That Burns" of "Fool No More".
The Lamb doesn't have that much filler :(
You know, Lamb wasn't an album I grew up listening to. Each time I listened to it, it had highlights to be sure, but I also remember drifting in and out. I'll take this as a Genesis Album Rank request, so I can maybe listen to it more analytically. Maybe I'll find it more even with a deeper listen.
@@classicrockbeagle That would be awesome! My favorite albums by Genesis are tied between Selling England, The Lamb, and Trick of the Tail, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on their discography. Great video btw, I'm glad to see a Fleetwood Mac ranking on their entire discography
Stone, I just put up the Genesis Album Rank, as per our earlier conversation