s1mple says this guy cheated

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  • @austincsgo
    @austincsgo  Місяць тому +159

    One thing is for sure though, the coach DEFINITELY deserved a lifetime ban
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    • @strxndo666
      @strxndo666 Місяць тому

      why life time? He can get banned for like 10 , 20 years ... People learn from time , specially a 10 years ban people change

    • @chrlzcs
      @chrlzcs Місяць тому +1

      faze, heroic, mouz were all doing it, don’t you remember?
      they all got a slap on the wrist

    • @kepasamekcuka8538
      @kepasamekcuka8538 Місяць тому +4

      @@chrlzcs the differance is some coaches had like 2 3 proved occasions, and not in every demo they used it some even got their bans lifted like andy(navi coach att) and lmbt (mouz coach att) only coaches like zoner and hunden got more than 35 proven, so the biggest scumbags are hard legion and heroic but they got of lightely cuz they cried on camera

    • @Felale
      @Felale Місяць тому +2

      All the players playing off this info should get an iBuypower tier ban. This is worse than matchfixing. It's a radar hack. If you had a radar hack on another computer and used that info and spread it to your team, there's no difference in how the game plays. Evident beyond a reasonable doubt external assistance is used here.

    • @t.w.videos1739
      @t.w.videos1739 Місяць тому

      Is this from months ago? How did you get back into the beta branch with csgo

  • @sunnyswetabh8950
    @sunnyswetabh8950 Місяць тому +928

    What's more mind boggling is they get all the info in round 24, still they lose that round. Hacks with no skills LOL

    • @bojandzurovski1449
      @bojandzurovski1449 Місяць тому +65

      its not hacks , its cheating , abusing a bug. Hacks is software.

    • @tehjamerz
      @tehjamerz Місяць тому +4

      Many such cases

    • @euphoricsynthesizer
      @euphoricsynthesizer Місяць тому

      @@bojandzurovski1449 or hardware

    • @Tylorrr
      @Tylorrr Місяць тому +27

      @@bojandzurovski1449 he was using the word "hacks" in the American English slang meaning of being "imposters/ bad or fake"

    • @coloassalchips
      @coloassalchips Місяць тому +1

      @@Tylorrr his english isnt great, cut him some slack

  • @rabi0ne
    @rabi0ne Місяць тому +589

    The coatch cam bug was so cringe... Professional people playing this dirty...

    • @HandsomeMadMax
      @HandsomeMadMax Місяць тому +36

      All of professional sports are this dirty.

    • @CBEnoddyy
      @CBEnoddyy Місяць тому +9

      @@HandsomeMadMax Only because of Money.

    • @mainy1984
      @mainy1984 Місяць тому +3

      That's life in a nutshell.

    • @HandsomeMadMax
      @HandsomeMadMax Місяць тому +6

      @@CBEnoddyy exactly. Greed is the main motivator for corruption and almost nobody is fully immune to it, when they had a taste of wealth.

    • @dilach41
      @dilach41 Місяць тому +4

      @@CBEnoddyy professional = money

  • @vincecs
    @vincecs Місяць тому +285

    needed to make sure it wasnt an old video after suddenly seeing csgo gameplay

    • @azure8676
      @azure8676 25 днів тому +4

      when the game actually worked lmao cs2 sucks

    • @artended
      @artended 11 днів тому

      csgo is more relevant now with how bad cs2 is doing

  • @jakeezetci
    @jakeezetci Місяць тому +298

    idk why simple decided to bring it up now, you can’t say whether it was forester’s decision upon coach’s information or a direct call from the coach to push tunnels

    • @friqd7439
      @friqd7439 Місяць тому +89

      Does the coach also tell the players what utility to use in each round? If they didn't snitch as soon as finding out about the bug, they should be punished too.

    • @daviddawood3272
      @daviddawood3272 Місяць тому +22

      back in those days couch could talk to team during rounds on microphone.

    • @chrlzcs
      @chrlzcs Місяць тому +1

      @@friqd7439 you know everybody was doing it right
      that’s why no players were punished, because EVERYONE was doing it

    • @Felale
      @Felale Місяць тому +20

      Forester playing off coach's info clearly can be construed as "radar hack" yes and I think he should be punished. If you had one player playing with actual wallhack and you play off their info, there's no difference. It doesn't really matter where the info comes from.

    • @Nerviniex
      @Nerviniex Місяць тому

      @@daviddawood3272 No, it was banned a year or 2 before, during the Astralis dominance era

  • @eXartoREAL
    @eXartoREAL Місяць тому +266

    idk why you say thats its drama, is outright a cheating callout. to me it seems like they all communicated with the coach and listened to his calls. all should recieve a comp. ban

    • @chrlzcs
      @chrlzcs Місяць тому +1

      should karrigan get a ban?
      cadian?
      coldzera?
      olofmeister?

    • @arma9150
      @arma9150 Місяць тому +16

      @@chrlzcs none of them had their coach blatantly abusing the coach bug ,& none of them coaches abused it for more than 8 rounds in case of hunden & 1 round in the case of robban (he literally lost 16-1 the time he had the bug)

    • @chrlzcs
      @chrlzcs Місяць тому

      @@arma9150 dead, MIBR coach was perma banned pretty sure for abusing coach bug blatantly

    • @mattocardo1002
      @mattocardo1002 Місяць тому +5

      s1mple did use cheats in CS:GO, it was 2013 I believe. Should he be banned?

    • @SaintGGod
      @SaintGGod Місяць тому

      Wasn't it 1.6 ​@@mattocardo1002

  • @Yui-999
    @Yui-999 Місяць тому +136

    IMO even the players should be permabanned for abusing the cheat so blatantly.

    • @chrlzcs
      @chrlzcs Місяць тому +6

      furia did same
      mouz did same
      heroic did same
      they should be perma banned?

    • @kepasamekcuka8538
      @kepasamekcuka8538 Місяць тому +49

      @@chrlzcs yes, everyone who blatantly knew and did the same as hard legion, mb not perma but a good yeard or two

    • @yuhyeon661
      @yuhyeon661 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@chrlzcs yes

    • @Felale
      @Felale Місяць тому +26

      @@chrlzcs Yes
      This is far worse than matchfixing which iBP got 10 year bans for.

    • @SeanFinn92
      @SeanFinn92 Місяць тому

      @@chrlzcs the teams who obviously used and exploited it should be. "cadiaN and stavn became aware of the abuse a few hours after the game" - HEROIC PLAYERS BREAK SILENCE ON HUNDEN'S ACCUSATIONS on hltv

  • @pyrotechnic1222
    @pyrotechnic1222 Місяць тому +33

    9:53 ... what is this "peek" LMAO

  • @DaveCS103
    @DaveCS103 Місяць тому +65

    Bro this is why REAL PROS are soo good. They had to fight against cheaters and still win for yearssss. Goated

  • @moepl7771
    @moepl7771 Місяць тому +37

    every coach: "hold my beer. i am the only one who knows about this bug. thats my time to shine." thats crazy

  • @dinkin_flicka14
    @dinkin_flicka14 Місяць тому +96

    I mean i get pissed when i see cheaters everyday on DM so i completely understand how S1mple would have felt or still feel about that match especially when you're competing at the highest level and you're at the top of your career

    • @erisium6988
      @erisium6988 Місяць тому +6

      oh so u are the guy that cries and try to kick me everytime

    • @GardenofEdens
      @GardenofEdens Місяць тому

      Lmao if you are not trolling you are sub human​@@erisium6988

    • @oChEkee
      @oChEkee Місяць тому +3

      @@erisium6988Trueeee. Same people who will rage hack assuming somebody better is cheating

    • @Binzob
      @Binzob Місяць тому +13

      @@erisium6988 Why are you cheating in death match lmao?

    • @ilevitatecs2
      @ilevitatecs2 Місяць тому +1

      if you think there's cheats on pracc, you're just bad. cant speak on valve servers

  • @pRopaaNS
    @pRopaaNS Місяць тому +70

    It's interesting that S1mple is taking his time to watch his old matches.

    • @Felale
      @Felale Місяць тому +39

      I'm sure he watched it back when it happened since he mentioned it was his worst professional rating online. Probably just popped into his head again recently. That's how the brain works.

    • @simoncollins69
      @simoncollins69 Місяць тому +4

      trying to remember that goat feeling

    • @kuri_sg
      @kuri_sg Місяць тому

      yes doing live commentaries on his shitty ass scam coaching package

    • @gurugulab1414
      @gurugulab1414 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Felale or maybe someone who analyses matches saw this and informed s1mple. That seems more plausible.

    • @gurugulab1414
      @gurugulab1414 Місяць тому

      ​@@Felale or maybe someone who analyses matches saw this and informed s1mple. That seems more plausible.

  • @ayo5549
    @ayo5549 Місяць тому +84

    People doing this should be fined massive amounts of money. To the point where it bankrupts them.

    • @randy89555
      @randy89555 Місяць тому

      Or jail. For breaking the law in the interest of money

    • @akito4201
      @akito4201 Місяць тому

      @@randy89555 1st of all. eng is not my native. so im sry for my bad eng. i think you are 100% correct. perma ban and literally go to court for it. on lans/tourney or other money based games. for integrity its fucking insane

    • @user-mj8vf6jr3l
      @user-mj8vf6jr3l Місяць тому

      @@randy89555 no law is being broken and most certainly nothing that would make it a criminal case. idk maybe european law is wacky or something lmao

    • @egillthor
      @egillthor Місяць тому

      @@user-mj8vf6jr3l Yes european laws are wacky, yet you allow theft and fentanyl addicts running around, you know everybody is laughing at the US today?

    • @StepSisRUstuck
      @StepSisRUstuck 24 дні тому

      ​​@@user-mj8vf6jr3lif game companies can go after cheat developers and sue them or get them jailed then buying the cheats should also be illegal lets use drxgs for a example if i sell them i get arrested and if i buy them and im caught with them thats also illegal and im arrested they can also do these for cheats but do you think anyone in any government plays video games or evwn cares 😂

  • @nickzzie9418
    @nickzzie9418 Місяць тому +42

    i think that all players from that team who knew about this should be disqualified for atleast 2 years

  • @laserlord_
    @laserlord_ Місяць тому +21

    can we have the Akuma match as well?

  • @sredna518
    @sredna518 Місяць тому +5

    great video! i dont really follow your stuff, me binging your tutorial shorts one night is probably how yt got convinced that i must be a fan so youre vids keep getting recommended, and i just wanted to say you seem to look healthier every time i see you, makes me happy for you :)

    • @austincsgo
      @austincsgo  Місяць тому +3

      i really appreciate that!

  • @MM-yk7fj
    @MM-yk7fj Місяць тому +12

    Imagine being so bad that u have all the info in the world and u almost still lose the game

  • @PC_Ringo
    @PC_Ringo Місяць тому +4

    What was Navi coach view out of curiosity?

  • @supmofo123
    @supmofo123 Місяць тому +2

    Love seeing your growth as a creator Austin! Keep doing your thing, love your content

  • @hrtenjoyer
    @hrtenjoyer Місяць тому +1

    your reviews are always so indepth, ty

  • @bales1569
    @bales1569 Місяць тому +1

    This was indeed hilarious. Pls make more videos like this Austin, I really enjoyed it 😊

  • @WorldClassThief
    @WorldClassThief Місяць тому +1

    Dope content Austin, looking forward to more.

  • @R4z0xR_1st_Comment_Enthusiast
    @R4z0xR_1st_Comment_Enthusiast Місяць тому +4

    The I'm going to tweet about this 4 years later mouse tilt 🤣

  • @joleynik
    @joleynik Місяць тому +1

    great video austin!!

  • @sieevansetiawan4792
    @sieevansetiawan4792 Місяць тому +5

    12:12 the solo long player just abandons long

  • @Hubery_
    @Hubery_ Місяць тому +1

    No clue if you did this yet or not but any chance you can show your binds?

  • @fredericomartins7977
    @fredericomartins7977 19 днів тому +1

    can u make video about the aim lock in 2015 -2019 ? im curious about what u have to say

  • @_egghead
    @_egghead Місяць тому +2

    Blast premiere final analysis when?

  • @fash0cs
    @fash0cs Місяць тому +37

    Yeah I’m sure this happens more than we realize haha

  • @marcuppf4358
    @marcuppf4358 Місяць тому +1

    I like this type of videos Austin!

  • @liamosuilleabhain9965
    @liamosuilleabhain9965 Місяць тому +1

    I remember watching this live, and just having my jaw rolling around on the floor for the entire series. Never seen a game that made as little sense until the Akuma vs NaVi one.

  • @DDoseOfCS2
    @DDoseOfCS2 Місяць тому

    Very good video, one thing I want to point out is your facecam covering the radar a little bit.

  • @LonelyK1d
    @LonelyK1d Місяць тому +3

    9:57 i think S1mple did call them out, and even said that the CIS RMR was an absolute joke.. no protocols to prevent anything, even team speak audio wasn't stored to fully check these claims, normally a lot of TO's do store teamspeak audios..!!

  • @markygg2441
    @markygg2441 Місяць тому +1

    i dont watch simple stream anymore will he still comeback or what?

  • @elliotdavies3555
    @elliotdavies3555 Місяць тому +1

    How long after this was the coach banned?

  • @jackervin324
    @jackervin324 Місяць тому

    you should do malbsmd demo review :D

  • @chandlerxcx
    @chandlerxcx Місяць тому +1

    stay pure austin

  • @Jakee3_
    @Jakee3_ Місяць тому

    Thank you Austin this is insane actually

  • @tinokosova3356
    @tinokosova3356 Місяць тому

    That's wild. I do remember something about the Coach bug. I had no idea it was used THAT much though.
    It is odd that he brings it up 4 years later. Like did he just review the demo or something? That is also odd.
    Anyways, thanks for making this video man. Nice to actually see proof of the accusations that s1mple made.

  • @bigdadpark
    @bigdadpark 12 днів тому

    the enemy team every match making game lol

  • @theangrychairman
    @theangrychairman Місяць тому

    good vid austin

  • @salemsaberhagen7628
    @salemsaberhagen7628 Місяць тому

    Can you explain the coach bug ? I am not defending I would just like to know if the Coach is the one moving the camera or yourself. is there a command they need to put in to be placed into the game ? I havent seen anyone really go deep on how the "bug" works. also its hard to call out the players when we dont have full context, pushing on eco is not suspect to me and using B utility when you hear no pressure long is not a surprise either. I have been wrong in my defenses before but it hard for me to see things so black and white. Thanks for the video hope to see more coach bug abuse examples. Thanks

    • @blazewashere7479
      @blazewashere7479 Місяць тому

      Use google my brother in christ.

    • @trisfaleel
      @trisfaleel Місяць тому +1

      basically they just get bugged into one place so for example this game the coach can just look around at t spawn for the whole game and see the players walk by, etc

  • @stone8220
    @stone8220 Місяць тому

    "HE USED IT 35/35 ROUNDS" HAD ME CRYINGGG LAUGHING

  • @RefRed_King
    @RefRed_King Місяць тому

    austin has no chill bro has all the info 😂😂

  • @heronblue6671
    @heronblue6671 Місяць тому

    ahh this demo looks smoother than cs2

  • @iudizm
    @iudizm Місяць тому

    how is it possible that you have only 34K subs!? awesome and consistent content bro!

  • @Deadbeatbeats
    @Deadbeatbeats Місяць тому

    I cant believe that shit went unnoticed, great content man

  • @ZAYZAYY27
    @ZAYZAYY27 Місяць тому

    thanks for the amount of effort you put into this

  • @WeisheiTM
    @WeisheiTM Місяць тому

    How does this still only have 80k views??

  • @MrDucktastic
    @MrDucktastic Місяць тому

    I'm not going trawling RBTN etc. but I feel like I heard Thorin and Kassad ranting about this series of games at the time.
    It was one of the many reasons RLewis and Thorin used to say the Online era didn't count... too much weird shit like this.

  • @prumat3700
    @prumat3700 Місяць тому +1

    lets go NAVI vs AKUMA)

  • @coach7149
    @coach7149 Місяць тому

    Round 26. Did he even have a Molly?

  • @camilodelvillar6860
    @camilodelvillar6860 Місяць тому

    “This was before forester was playing for amkal and making majors”
    Bro he literally made the Berlin major in 2019 with dreameaters and Stockholm in 2021 with Entropiq

  • @mitzee8621
    @mitzee8621 Місяць тому

    From a certain point of view if he is knowingly getting info from someone cheating i.e. the coach using the bug, then he could be considered a cheater as well.
    If you were playing battleship and had a friend communicating with you the location of all your opponents ships then you would be the one considered to be cheating even though it is a different sort of cheating then if you had a mirror set up to see for yourself the position of your enemies ships.
    Personally I think this is enough to say Forester was likely a cheater by virtue of his coach using the bug and passing info to him, whether or not he should be banned for this is a much more complicated question.

  • @KIoakk
    @KIoakk Місяць тому

    that ad was so annoying lol why so goddamn squeaky

  • @usotutu
    @usotutu Місяць тому

    What is even worse is that they almost lost.

  • @coolissimo69
    @coolissimo69 Місяць тому

    Most likely all teams or the majority of tier 1 teams were using the coach bug.

  • @onion7484
    @onion7484 Місяць тому

    I'm pretty sure he didn't want to bring it up before because it would benefit them more since it gives them fame.

  • @Devou1s
    @Devou1s 8 днів тому

    Did non of the coaches reveal the bug or did they get caught red-handed?

  • @nerdnetw
    @nerdnetw 19 днів тому

    Why didnt the players get banned?

  • @mihawk8676
    @mihawk8676 Місяць тому

    Well cheathing has been a thing for so long , once there was a german cheater called smn he said that many others to that time cheated on lan aswell (that was 2014) he spoke about that tier 1 has also many cheaters, I wonder who he meant back in the days

  • @mrotss
    @mrotss Місяць тому

    this happens literally all the time lol even worse in t2

  • @thaimafia9
    @thaimafia9 2 години тому

    A HLTV thread also says that only Zoner was proved to be exploiting it and not the players. The thread itself said that the players were innocent, but this video tells a whole different story. HLTV should cover this better or update it perhaps. I mean Forester plays for AMKAL now and its just wierd he didnt get punished for abusing it, same with his teammates.

  • @chairshoe81
    @chairshoe81 Місяць тому +1

    s1mple going kramn1k style

    • @makkarapoikax1100
      @makkarapoikax1100 Місяць тому +5

      They were blatantly abusing coach bug whole fking team. Six cheaters in one team😂😂

    • @chairshoe81
      @chairshoe81 Місяць тому

      @@makkarapoikax1100 you must be confused

  • @zirby5012
    @zirby5012 Місяць тому

    why your voice is so high?

  • @willh69
    @willh69 Місяць тому

    Who else laughed their ass off at 6:52 after all that analysis about exploiting hacks lolol

  • @playandcollect
    @playandcollect Місяць тому

    I’m in shock.

  • @itaikizner2986
    @itaikizner2986 Місяць тому

    gotta move the cam from the map

    • @austincsgo
      @austincsgo  Місяць тому +2

      I had my recording set for cs2, going back to csgo threw me off, won’t happen again!

  • @silverstacking3083
    @silverstacking3083 Місяць тому +1

    Simple going back and watching vods of when he was the goat, thinking to himself how did i lose to a tier 2 cs team 😅😅

    • @dereknichols4376
      @dereknichols4376 Місяць тому

      Are u that dumb?they already confirmed cheating,the coach got lifetime ban
      The only question is=how many players involve with the coach

  • @rafalg8755
    @rafalg8755 2 дні тому

    Could coaches talk with the team x all the time back then?

  • @tomicak
    @tomicak 10 днів тому

    s1mple wasn't tweeting this at the time because he would lose credibility over some drama which he cba now when he's not playing

  • @dhanmohanraj9984
    @dhanmohanraj9984 Місяць тому

    #bringbackcsgo

  • @exliferEK
    @exliferEK Місяць тому +1

    just sad to see actually:(

  • @erickfelix4393
    @erickfelix4393 22 дні тому +1

    My only question is: why the players aren’t banned too, look the f* demo, it is not only the Coach!!

  • @zapple5319
    @zapple5319 Місяць тому

    I think the players also deserve a shallow ban for being on board with the coach bug

  • @JohnBoy86368
    @JohnBoy86368 25 днів тому

    Thats crazy, good digging, those guys needed external assistance to win.. weirdos

  • @acidburn3562
    @acidburn3562 23 дні тому

    I miss csgo man.

  • @altbubu7
    @altbubu7 Місяць тому

    you look exactly like FedzorOfficial

  • @cr34torOG
    @cr34torOG Місяць тому

    7th till 8th minute told me you might be clueless?? its different to push tunell with pistol where you can die no problem and other case is to push it with full equip that you dont want to lose...doesnt make it sense?? risk when lose minimum..dont risk if you could lose maximum..

  • @Tapport
    @Tapport Місяць тому

    I’m confused why s1mple is calling hacks when he should fully be aware of the coach bug and the HL coach using it. Is he implying that on top of coach bug, Forester was cheating, or is he not remembering that the bug was a thing at the time? Maybe I’m missing or misunderstanding something about it, I don’t know…

    • @alexandreiss0agr276
      @alexandreiss0agr276 Місяць тому

      bro if you seen some matches from Forester online vs lan, you know thats not the same person.

  • @lang8289
    @lang8289 Місяць тому +3

    This only matters if you go through every single player that played under a banned coach and give them the same treatment, singleing out forester 4 years later when there are so many others feels weird.

  • @711mariokart
    @711mariokart Місяць тому

    They should just remove coaching all together let the players play

  • @DangermouseIRL
    @DangermouseIRL Місяць тому

    csgo d2 looks so wierd now

  • @Rosterized
    @Rosterized Місяць тому +1

    and now forester is playing on AMKAL and recently got sticker money from copenhagen.. This world is not fair and just man

  • @VolzYT
    @VolzYT Місяць тому

    idk why provable offenses like this weren’t banned

  • @turcinko22
    @turcinko22 Місяць тому

    Simple needs to play again,he have so much free time as we can see.

  • @unknownentity8256
    @unknownentity8256 Місяць тому

    Didn't a lot of pro teams get caught using this bug and nobody got banned except for some coaches?

  • @leonjun9401
    @leonjun9401 Місяць тому

    9:10 haha

  • @MASTERGRIEFS
    @MASTERGRIEFS 22 дні тому

    It really cheapens the whole competitive gaming scene in its entirety. Like the fact that there's been so many cases of cheaters in these matches when eSports is so new compared to other competitive sports. Just makes it seem like there was always some bs that was happening in most of these majors.

  • @lucasgaiva1653
    @lucasgaiva1653 Місяць тому

    It's hard to see some players receive opportunities to play in the professional scene based on cheating, they don't deserve at all.

  • @TylerCSGO
    @TylerCSGO Місяць тому

    i feel like maybe a team involving them reached out to s1mple for a future team ? maybe this got resurfaced and he decided to let it all out. idk thats the first thing that came to my mind.
    either way they dudes were cheating hard af and deserve to be banned. you cant say the players didnt know after watching this

  • @mastas7
    @mastas7 Місяць тому

    BAN THEM ALL

  • @redstonereshiram7465
    @redstonereshiram7465 Місяць тому

    the most egregious cheats ever are actually found on comp office

  • @eddyngaue6495
    @eddyngaue6495 18 днів тому

    I pay UA-cam premium so I don’t have to see ads and then you have a UA-camr before they start the contact push ad. How horrible is that?

  • @SoPsyko
    @SoPsyko 20 днів тому

    reported to put ads when u dont choose to do ads

  • @Fisherwar3
    @Fisherwar3 16 днів тому

    Holly crap!

  • @filipsomljacan6460
    @filipsomljacan6460 Місяць тому

    They all knowingly took advantage of the bug. If coach got banned, so should these players no matter what their name and reputation is.

  • @Guttsz
    @Guttsz Місяць тому

    W austincs

  • @SaintGGod
    @SaintGGod Місяць тому

    Get them off competitive play for min 1 year and see how it works out when they're not getting paid for shit

  • @ChaoticRenny
    @ChaoticRenny 27 днів тому

    Making me miss csgo, but at the very least s1mple is half right because it was the coach relaying information it would seem that forester was cheating but really he was given timing info and he acted off of it. Given no coach bug the map would of been more decisive.