@@larrybeel5143 that’s a great question. Being the grey man helps make it through the beginning but as the team gets smaller, that’s not possible. It’s the ability to put the team before yourself. The desire to take the struggle from someone else and keep it. You end up with 10 guys that want to take the pain from each other which allows impossible things to become possible.
Awesome video, I'm currently training to put in for a cross train here at the end of the year. If you don't mind me asking, what AFSC did you train out of and how hard was the process?
Denecke security forces, was not easy but it all starts with mypers, gotta play the game and hit the button, then gather all the af paperwork and med records and wait. Takes about 6-12 months depending on budget and slots.
Alright, so this'll be a long one haha. Also sorry it took me so long to come up with the questions. 1. How fit were you when you decided to cross train and did you follow any specific training plans to get you ready for indoc and the pipeline? 2. Is there anything you wish you would've known before you went through indoc? 3. Did you run into any snags during the re-train process? 4. At what point in the re-train process did you take the PAST test? 5. Did you pick only PJ or did you select multiple AFSC's for your re-train? 6. How close were you to the end of your enlistment were you and did you have to extend?
1. Not extremely I should have been more prepared on calisthenics (push ups mainly) but I was very functional, doesn't matter your shape as long as you pass your evals, its all about heart. If your trying to peg it tho be able to swim 500 under 9 and run a mile under 7 minutes for 3 rounds. That normally told me I was ready. 2. I showed weakenss 7th week. I wish I could go back and relive it, I wouldn't have. 3. None, playing the AF game as usual was annoying but worth it. 4. After you submit and get approved to imitate your package its a part of your records asked of you. Search the PAST sheet on the portal and your will find it, then get any officer/ or any PJ to take your test. 5. Pick only PJ 6. 1 year and extended 2 Additional: Its all about the man next to you, never quit and never show weakness. Stay strong and show your men how to endure, lead from the front and you will do fine. If you hate water con that means you love it and you want it. Everyday say I love this. Find a way to motivate yourself, Im a prove those that support me right kind of guy.. some people feed off of proving others wrong and thats fine but thats weak sauce to me. Be the guy that your men want to go to war with and never lose yourself.
Miguel Magana Thanks for the reply. I see that pararescue is mostly endurance and calisthenics, but I see PJs Olympic lifting in some clips. I'm curious as to what they're performing.
Miguel Magana Agreed. If they practice power cleans I'll assume they also bench press, squat, deadlift, and Overhead/Military press. Just want to be certain.
These guys thrive on anything fitness related. They do that and more, trail running, rucking, biking, swimming, crossfit, functional fitness, some olympic lifting, mostly just functional stuff bud.
Hi there, I'm thinking in joining the PJs I think its an amazing job so that Others May Live and I always like the paramedic type of thing, I'm currently in lack of exercise but I want spend a lot of time running and going to the pool, is everything in the video teached in the Indoc? or you have to learn all that by yourself? for example buddy breathing, jumping while your hands tie etc? should I just swim a lot and run or should I do other type of stuff?
You need to show up ready to train. Below are the final evaluation standards you must pass to graduate. They always teach you prior to every "new" event but your expected to catch on fast and practice in your dorm for proficiency. Being prepared will only add to your confidence, train hard!! 6 mile run- 44:00 3000M fin- 60:00 2000M open water fin- 60:00 Pull ups- 13 Sit ups- 75 Push ups- 70 Underwaters- 25M X 5 @ 1:30 Buddy Breathing(Full Harassment)- 2:00 3 Knot series (completion w/ confidence) Equipment recovery(16 lb) Treading Water- 2:30 Drown Proofing (completion w/ confidence) Below are 2 things not a part of final but to keep in mind. 30 meter mask and snorkel (tested out prior to final evals) 50 meter underwater (expected to be able to complete)
hey brother, I just want keep you updating and you know also have someone to talk to that is having an experience that I will have hopefully soon, today I joined the Jones CENTER, it has a pool (25 yards) and it has a track (13 laps = 1 mile) calisnethics and a gym, I'm thinking since it requires to swim a lot to I will do everyday an hour of swimming , 1 hour running and a calisnethic workout. Something else I would have to add?
Those are all good things, keep researching, keep training to standard and soon the only thing you will have to worry about is how bad you want it. The tests are all based on your fitness level until water con which in my opinion is based upon how confident you are and how well you perform when stressed by the instructors to keep your head down and doing your job. No test is really going to be "easy" Its just a benchmark to another eval week by week until its over. Same for dive and the rest of your time in the pipeline.
I really appreciate you posting this information here. Can you explain Underwaters 25M X 5? What is the longest distance you have to swim underwater w/o fins? w/ fins? and am I to understand that the weight vests you are wearing are 16 lbs? Thanks!
NSTK naa dude, literally inhale until you can’t anymore. Then start buddy breathing, explosive breath out to push the water out of the snorkel and small breath in to refill your tank. That’s how you do it fast enough to make sure your buddy has air. The event is not about you it’s about sacrificing your time and air to make sure your buddy’s good and he’s doing the same thing for you. You always need enough air in your lungs to clear the snorkel. Sometimes you get messed up pretty hard and you need that deep inhale under there, make it fast and don’t be weak.
Bray Burkholder honestly brother make sure you can do max calisthenics (push,pull,sit) and run at a 5:30-6:30 pace per mile and you will be fine on land. The water is the equalizer so search watercon events for indoc and check out UA-cam videos on them. DESTORY everything, and come to basic training strong, I was a retrain so I didn't have that disadvantage of losing gain from basic. Maybe SOFLETE is for you, maybe RESCUE ATHLETE. But you can come in being pretty basic with a good heart and pass if you have the desire. If your why is greater you will be fine. Ask away man I'm a never ending resource.
C KORAGE thanks man I really appreciate the reply. My parents are really pushing college for me even though I'd rather enlist and become a pj. But if I do get accepted (I'm a senior in high school) and do the Air Force ROTC program, I guess I will go the CRO route. PJ or CRO has been my dream for a while now and quitting is not an option for me. I'm willing to train all 4 years of college for it and the last thing i want to do is become unprepared. I already checked out rescue athlete but I will check out the other resource you gave me. And is there something with tying knots underwater that you need to know before going to indoc? Or will they Teach you that there or no? Hope all is going well, don't know if you are still in the pipeline or not but thanks for you service brother
Bray Burkholder that's a solid plan brother. Yes tying knots in a 3 knot series to final out on. They teach you there, have your parents read this as well. I was a senior when I wanted to be a PJ and I was fully unprepared and weak for the job, didn't know what I was getting into and it is like a train smacks you in the face when you get there and it's go time. I had years to mature after my first attempt and I came back stronger than ever. I challenged most of the course without it challenging me, and had my days of suffering like the rest. Indoc is a huge hurtle. It's mentally and physically exhausting but when you don't mind and just embrace being uncomfortable it gets easier. School is very important, your education is very important. What you don't want to do is be half way through college and enlist because you won't have time to make that degree happen for a little while. Look up what it's like to be a CRO and talk to them, but if you talk to PJs they love being enlisted because you get the most out of the job plus medicine. I'm a student still, I can't tell you what it's like to be a PJ because I will have to find out for myself. I will say this, I wake up everyday pinching myself to make sure this isn't a dream, best job I ever had. Being a part of a brotherhood like this is an honor. Good luck with training, do your research, talk to actual PJs, get your parents involved and honor them (you won't see them much after you join), be thankful for being where your at and realize one thing, you have so much time to grow and be an "adult" on your own.. appreciate these times and always remember there's no do overs. 🇺🇸
C KORAGE thanks man I really appreciate it, I know CRO's don't get a lot of action and get desked after like 5-10 years which stinks but I'm looking into both, I really appreciate all your help, I'll try to keep you up to date with my progress
I’m honored to be going into this pipeline. The excitement is unmeasurable.
Good luck man hope you make it 🇺🇲🤙🙏
Tell us if you make it, we believe in you!
I’m preparing now, and I also am beyonnddd excited!!
Don’t fucking quit
@@DontTreadOnWe he’s got another year to go if not more
I was in Indoc with Korleski in 2012. He’s a great guy. Made an impression on me and I always thought he deserved to be a PJ. Congrats bro.
Did you not make it through?
‘Cause even if you didn’t, that takes massive balls to even attempt something like that.
Yeah I did. Back in 2012. He didn’t but he went back and killed it.
@@Veteran_Aviator wow bro ,what does it take mentally , just stay down when it hurts an keep going ?
@@larrybeel5143 that’s a great question. Being the grey man helps make it through the beginning but as the team gets smaller, that’s not possible. It’s the ability to put the team before yourself. The desire to take the struggle from someone else and keep it. You end up with 10 guys that want to take the pain from each other which allows impossible things to become possible.
Ole SSgt Korleski. I went to dive with you homie.
Dude I can't wait to work with you again man, I had a blast with you and the guys.
C Korleski did you make it through the pipeline?
MrNoExcusesYT I’ll post a grad video when I do homie. This is a long road.
@@Chriskorleski did you make it?
It's the old 50 meter pool with a cover
My brothers class only graduated with 14
Badass team shirts
I will be going to this in about 4 to 5 months today's is the sep 7 2023, I have meps in 3 days and my IFT for the 26th. HUA
I'll be with you guys soon, just gotta get my conditioning up.
did you make it?
Excellent
is water conf done throughout the whole indoc process?
John Smith yes it is. Every day
John Smith Yes, hours of it every single day.
Awesome video, I'm currently training to put in for a cross train here at the end of the year. If you don't mind me asking, what AFSC did you train out of and how hard was the process?
Denecke security forces, was not easy but it all starts with mypers, gotta play the game and hit the button, then gather all the af paperwork and med records and wait. Takes about 6-12 months depending on budget and slots.
Awesome man, I appreciate the advice. I'm currently security forces as well. Do you mind if I ask you a few more questions about it?
Denecke go for it buddy!
Alright, so this'll be a long one haha. Also sorry it took me so long to come up with the questions.
1. How fit were you when you decided to cross train and did you follow any specific training plans to get you ready for indoc and the pipeline?
2. Is there anything you wish you would've known before you went through indoc?
3. Did you run into any snags during the re-train process?
4. At what point in the re-train process did you take the PAST test?
5. Did you pick only PJ or did you select multiple AFSC's for your re-train?
6. How close were you to the end of your enlistment were you and did you have to extend?
1. Not extremely I should have been more prepared on calisthenics (push ups mainly) but I was very functional, doesn't matter your shape as long as you pass your evals, its all about heart. If your trying to peg it tho be able to swim 500 under 9 and run a mile under 7 minutes for 3 rounds. That normally told me I was ready.
2. I showed weakenss 7th week. I wish I could go back and relive it, I wouldn't have.
3. None, playing the AF game as usual was annoying but worth it.
4. After you submit and get approved to imitate your package its a part of your records asked of you. Search the PAST sheet on the portal and your will find it, then get any officer/ or any PJ to take your test.
5. Pick only PJ
6. 1 year and extended 2
Additional: Its all about the man next to you, never quit and never show weakness. Stay strong and show your men how to endure, lead from the front and you will do fine. If you hate water con that means you love it and you want it. Everyday say I love this. Find a way to motivate yourself, Im a prove those that support me right kind of guy.. some people feed off of proving others wrong and thats fine but thats weak sauce to me. Be the guy that your men want to go to war with and never lose yourself.
What do you do for weightlifting? How many reps, sets, etc. strength training or?
I would like to practice beforehand.
Spirit SQ weights will only go so far don't stop it really helps but this is mostly endurance and cardio and calisthenics
Miguel Magana
Thanks for the reply.
I see that pararescue is mostly endurance and calisthenics, but I see PJs Olympic lifting in some clips. I'm curious as to what they're performing.
Spirit SQ they're doing power cleans Olympic lifting is very hard and requires a lot of strength and technique
Miguel Magana
Agreed.
If they practice power cleans I'll assume they also bench press, squat, deadlift, and Overhead/Military press. Just want to be certain.
These guys thrive on anything fitness related. They do that and more, trail running, rucking, biking, swimming, crossfit, functional fitness, some olympic lifting, mostly just functional stuff bud.
Good ol lackland
Hi there, I'm thinking in joining the PJs I think its an amazing job so that Others May Live and I always like the paramedic type of thing, I'm currently in lack of exercise but I want spend a lot of time running and going to the pool, is everything in the video teached in the Indoc? or you have to learn all that by yourself? for example buddy breathing, jumping while your hands tie etc? should I just swim a lot and run or should I do other type of stuff?
You need to show up ready to train. Below are the final evaluation standards you must pass to graduate. They always teach you prior to every "new" event but your expected to catch on fast and practice in your dorm for proficiency. Being prepared will only add to your confidence, train hard!!
6 mile run- 44:00
3000M fin- 60:00
2000M open water fin- 60:00
Pull ups- 13
Sit ups- 75
Push ups- 70
Underwaters- 25M X 5 @ 1:30
Buddy Breathing(Full Harassment)- 2:00
3 Knot series (completion w/ confidence)
Equipment recovery(16 lb)
Treading Water- 2:30
Drown Proofing (completion w/ confidence)
Below are 2 things not a part of final but to keep in mind.
30 meter mask and snorkel (tested out prior to final evals)
50 meter underwater (expected to be able to complete)
hey brother, I just want keep you updating and you know also have someone to talk to that is having an experience that I will have hopefully soon, today I joined the Jones CENTER, it has a pool (25 yards) and it has a track (13 laps = 1 mile) calisnethics and a gym, I'm thinking since it requires to swim a lot to I will do everyday an hour of swimming , 1 hour running and a calisnethic workout. Something else I would have to add?
and also when I get able to do all those things you said, will the Indoc last test be easy?
Those are all good things, keep researching, keep training to standard and soon the only thing you will have to worry about is how bad you want it. The tests are all based on your fitness level until water con which in my opinion is based upon how confident you are and how well you perform when stressed by the instructors to keep your head down and doing your job. No test is really going to be "easy" Its just a benchmark to another eval week by week until its over. Same for dive and the rest of your time in the pipeline.
I really appreciate you posting this information here. Can you explain Underwaters 25M X 5? What is the longest distance you have to swim underwater w/o fins? w/ fins? and am I to understand that the weight vests you are wearing are 16 lbs? Thanks!
This would be dope with barber adagio 👍👋😉
Oh buddy breathing, is it better to just get as much air as you can or to take a calm steady breath?
NSTK naa dude, literally inhale until you can’t anymore. Then start buddy breathing, explosive breath out to push the water out of the snorkel and small breath in to refill your tank. That’s how you do it fast enough to make sure your buddy has air. The event is not about you it’s about sacrificing your time and air to make sure your buddy’s good and he’s doing the same thing for you. You always need enough air in your lungs to clear the snorkel.
Sometimes you get messed up pretty hard and you need that deep inhale under there, make it fast and don’t be weak.
How are you enjoying your job so far? I also have a question about CRO. Can you give me some insight on what they do?
How deep is the pool at 2:43 during the bobbing portion?
Alex Zielinski I️ would say like 12 feet or so idk
looking forward to fighting with men like this.
I went to highschool with rossi. So weird
What workouts did you use to train for Indoc?
Bray Burkholder honestly brother make sure you can do max calisthenics (push,pull,sit) and run at a 5:30-6:30 pace per mile and you will be fine on land. The water is the equalizer so search watercon events for indoc and check out UA-cam videos on them. DESTORY everything, and come to basic training strong, I was a retrain so I didn't have that disadvantage of losing gain from basic. Maybe SOFLETE is for you, maybe RESCUE ATHLETE. But you can come in being pretty basic with a good heart and pass if you have the desire. If your why is greater you will be fine. Ask away man I'm a never ending resource.
C KORAGE thanks man I really appreciate the reply. My parents are really pushing college for me even though I'd rather enlist and become a pj. But if I do get accepted (I'm a senior in high school) and do the Air Force ROTC program, I guess I will go the CRO route. PJ or CRO has been my dream for a while now and quitting is not an option for me. I'm willing to train all 4 years of college for it and the last thing i want to do is become unprepared. I already checked out rescue athlete but I will check out the other resource you gave me. And is there something with tying knots underwater that you need to know before going to indoc? Or will they Teach you that there or no? Hope all is going well, don't know if you are still in the pipeline or not but thanks for you service brother
Bray Burkholder that's a solid plan brother. Yes tying knots in a 3 knot series to final out on. They teach you there, have your parents read this as well. I was a senior when I wanted to be a PJ and I was fully unprepared and weak for the job, didn't know what I was getting into and it is like a train smacks you in the face when you get there and it's go time. I had years to mature after my first attempt and I came back stronger than ever. I challenged most of the course without it challenging me, and had my days of suffering like the rest. Indoc is a huge hurtle. It's mentally and physically exhausting but when you don't mind and just embrace being uncomfortable it gets easier. School is very important, your education is very important. What you don't want to do is be half way through college and enlist because you won't have time to make that degree happen for a little while. Look up what it's like to be a CRO and talk to them, but if you talk to PJs they love being enlisted because you get the most out of the job plus medicine. I'm a student still, I can't tell you what it's like to be a PJ because I will have to find out for myself. I will say this, I wake up everyday pinching myself to make sure this isn't a dream, best job I ever had. Being a part of a brotherhood like this is an honor. Good luck with training, do your research, talk to actual PJs, get your parents involved and honor them (you won't see them much after you join), be thankful for being where your at and realize one thing, you have so much time to grow and be an "adult" on your own.. appreciate these times and always remember there's no do overs. 🇺🇸
Bray Burkholder
Where area are you located? I'm training for pararescue as well.
C KORAGE thanks man I really appreciate it, I know CRO's don't get a lot of action and get desked after like 5-10 years which stinks but I'm looking into both, I really appreciate all your help, I'll try to keep you up to date with my progress
Did you make it through?
what pool is this? is it the one they wanted to build behind forbes hall?
chap
I don’t think 15 ft of water deep till ur hands an feet are tied then try it .u will think twice .fuck up bobbing an ur screwed
this is the best you guys could do? music sucks.
Troy Arce - The tat represents you being saved by a PJ?
Troy Arce thanks :)
For the record I added to the song by We Came as Romans to my workout playlist, thought its pretty dope