I'm quite dejected about the state of the team as well. This could have easily been a six game win streak if less guys K with the bases loaded or if the pitching doesn't brainfart for multiple innings at a time. I hope this isn't the same roster as when they come back from the break. The Seattle Mariners need BATS, BATS, and MORE Bats!
You are so right on I love listening to you. I love your emotion. I love your thought process your knowledge of the players and your guts to say what’s on your mind.
I’ve wiped my hands with Scott Servais. How is this dude still employed by Seattle Mariners. He is solely responsible for at least 10 losses by mismanaging the game and especially with the bullpen. I don’t care who is available. You can’t have Voth in that high leverage situation. That is a must win and Scott crapped the bed again. I feel sick for our starting pitching. They deserve better than Scott Servais.
@@paulhan7770 it’s ok Scott Voth had already pitched 2 days in a row 🤦♂️ you could’ve gone to santos, heck even Thorny but no Scott decided hmm how about a guy who’s pitched 2 days in a row. He should’ve never pulled Gilbert to start with 😡
Gilbert should have been out there... the game before the AllStar break? Shouldve had at least 10 to 15 more pitches in the tank. The only thing more of a joke is the hitting...
What a frustrating series that, like you said, should've been in the M's favor to win. This may have been the most frustrating series all year, especially when they had a great opportunity to give themselves a cushion in the division. Thank you for your commitment thru the highs and lows J, your videos always help me find some "closure" to move onto the next one. My goodness, we need this break! 🔱
Scott's inability to have a feel for the game as it's playing out is glaring. I'm telling you, if the M's don't add several impact players before the deadline, there's no chance they make the playoffs. Plus, Cal won't be signing an extension to stay with the Mariners if they sh*t the bed again this year. He will go somewhere that TRUELY wants to win a World Series and Boris will get him his bag for sure.
Extensions are off the table for Boras clients. Scott Boras has a policy of using the free market to get the best for his clients. Extensions won’t get the $$ for his clients. If Cal wasn’t a Boras client, then an extension might be possible.
Why would you want to sign an extension with a career .217 hitter who averages 112 strikeouts to 34 walks per season? Every 5-10 games on average he will get into one and go yard for an average of 20 homers per season. He’s a good defensive catcher with an above average arm and works well with the Mariners rotation, but he’s just too much of a liability at the plate and hasn’t really shown any progress in that area in his career with Seattle to this point. Perhaps he would benefit from some lineup protection being inserted into an actual legit MLB lineup instead of the triple A lineup Seattle trots out year after year, but even then he is still limited with how little progress he has made as a hitter.
@@jaredcarrick3468 Cal Hit 27 HR's w/63 RBI's in 2022 w/.211 BA , 30 HR's & 75 RBI's w/.232 BA last year. This year already @ 20 HR's & 61 RBI's, and his BA is .216. So as long as he keeps on pace, and brings his BA up , he will increase his HR's & RBI's. He's also a switch hitter with power from both sides. Handles the pitching staff excellently and is better than a good defensive catcher. I would like to see him increase his BA this year & cut down on K's as well, but to say he hasn't shown any progress is just not true.
@@flickoftheswitch1054 it is true. He has always had raw HR power. He has progressed a little in terms of his HR numbers and his RBIs subsequently are up, but the average combined with the K to BB ratio shows that any improvements he’s made at the plate are marginal at best. The 20 HR stat I gave you is his career average to this point, along with the other stats I threw in. He’s basically the next Mike Zunino
@@jaredcarrick3468 I agree, his BA & K rate at this time are not good. It would have been nice to see if he could have improved on both those stats this season. He still has the opportunity to improve his BA this year , but his K's are gonna be high again. It's unfortunate that the offense as a whole has been so terrible this year, as I think he would have had a much better chance of improving his overall numbers with a competent group of players around him. Plus, I believe Cal has way more upside than Zunino ever had. I guess I just would hate to see Cal go, I like his overall gameplay and not sure the Mariners would be able to find a replacement that could bring all the positive attributes that he brings to the table.
I turned it off once I found out they were pulling gilbert cause I had a bad feeling I shouldn't watch what was coming next. Checked the score a couple minutes later and realized we had been serviced.
Taking Gilbert out with less than 90 pitches and pinching out the team's best hitter for one of its worst is just more Scottyball. He constantly outsmarts himself. I would almost be happy if the team misses the playoffs if it means an end to his incompetence weighing us all down.
Good news is Dipoto will grab the scrubs left from what the Yankees, Dodgers and Orioles dont take with trades, Dipoto will try to look like a hero getting a scrub
Pitiful I don't kno what too do anymore...awful, terrible, frustrating, heartbreaking, we even beat them in the NAKED GUN MOVIE.....SAD😢....IM NOT LOOKING AT ANYMORE GAMES...
This was an unacceptable series loss the angels are really Bad they've lost 7 of the last 8 series since that texas sweep they've fallen apart the last month I don't feel good about the houston series after the break
Head to head after the break. That'll tell us a lot. I have bourbon and IPA's ready. Im going to have to ask Scott if i can watch more than 7 innings, though. Kudo's to our Capt for his bomb! Love ya, J!!
Honestly at this point If the Mariners were to fire Scott Servais over the all star break instead of trading for a bat I feel like I would be okay with that at this point because Servais aswell as Dipoto I'm just done I understand ownership hasn't helped the situation but these guys just continue to make bonehead decisions whether it's questionable signings or just idiotic decisions that end up costing us games like today, something has gotta change and I just feel like this would be a good start.
jerry better add or I'm done for the season. Put Polo, Haniger, and Garver on waivers call up Locklear,Ford , and Evans, let Bliss have second Trade France put Woo in the bullpen for the season. Trade for Vlady and Rooker JMO Then we can have a good DH. Please Jerry this week.
I'm not gonna advocate for firing Scott mid season, as that kind of shake up would probably only make things worse for this season, but if they let him walk this off-season I won't be losing sleep over it. How on earth do you decide to take Logan out of that game? With how he was doing and the fact that his next start won't be for nearly 10 days, that was as bad of a decision as I've seen Scott make.
It's been obvious for a long long time, that Scott is just not good. Should have been replaced long ago. He's made so many bad decisions. There's a clear pattern. I have no idea why people have defended him.
U should put in for hazardous pay. To paraphrase one of my favorite movies, Godfather II- maybe Scott servais is unlucky. Why did the mariners change their rotation from Castillo, Kirby, Gilbert to insert Woo. As much as many know servais should go, this cheap org isn't going to pay Servais and a new manager. But Servais never seems to have this team ready on day games- got no-hit through 4 and 2/3s. I feel sorry for the pitchers in general but specifically for Gilbert. He's been getting this treatment all year. Well, get some bats and see what happens in the second half.
The Astros are 1 GB while he Rangers are now 5 GB in the division. It’s win the division or bust. Mariner YT’ers kept looking past the division into a World Series. You can’t count your chickens before they are hatched. Win the division, then hope for the best. Stressing division win should be the priority not winning the World Series. M’s haven’t won a division in decades. Looking past the division will leave the M’s out of the playoffs.
Not so difficult to understand it as Gilbert explained in the post game presser, he has never pitched this many innings at this point in the season and they want to save his arm for the stretch run/playoffs.
2:45 Just to make a quick comment on who's been the best pitcher for the Mariners this year, it's interesting that by Fangraphs WAR, Kirby has easily been the best, but by Baseball Reference WAR, Logan has easily been the best! Either way though both are having great seasons!
Yeah I think you can make a case for both and even Castillo. I just meant it more heated in the moment it was a frustrating decision, but I won't argue any of the 3
I don't get it. I don't understand it.... Scott is horrible. I will root against us until he's fired. We're not gonna win or get to a WS with him. Move on!
This series really pissed me off. Gilbert should have stayed in and if not Santos should have come out. I'm so sick of servais not letting anybody throw over 90 pitches. I feel like Stanek was hurt before he even came out.. Ugh I can't take this shit anymore man. If we don't make the playoffs I know what series I'm gona be pointing to. Fuckin weak ass offense. It's abysmal.
Embarrassing end to the first half of the season. Veterans need to pick it up in the 2nd half and management needs to pick up at least two bats. The lack of hitting is atrocious. The philosophical approach of "control the zone" and making contact clearly didn't get through to the lineup. A collective 1,000 strikeouts by the lineup in the first half. On pace for 2,000 Ks to end the season (the record for a team being 1,654 by the Twins last year). Ms are lucky to be in first place and it's only because of the pitching. I'm not one to usually call for firings, but if the season continues this way then Hollander, Dipoto, and Servais need to get the axe. Extremely frustrating as a fan who has been told to "be patient" since 2016.
Well that was just sad once agian, think we can all say good time for the all star break team needs rest now, theu ready for it. No happy flight today but thata a wrap on the first half, huge make or break series at home i think coming up with the Astros on Friday. See you then, J! Just saying Santos should have been avaible this day, could munoz havee pitched with the ASG Tuesday?
I don't get it. Why pull Logan at 85 pitches in the 8th when he's dealing and his next start is at least a full week away? Whatever analytics they use to make these decisions are shit and don't work. Jerry thinks he's big brain, smartest guy in the room but it couldn't be further from the truth.
Why does everyone keep saying Stanek has been “really good?” This isn’t a shot at you at all. But I keep hearing it and his numbers are not great and really not even good.
The key term there is "good for the Mariners." Stanek's overall numbers may not be stellar, but he has been solid, esp in high leverage situations. He has 14 holds and 7 saves, and only definitively lost us a couple of games with a 6-2 record. He's no Andres Munoz or Gregory Santos. But Stanek has been rock solid as a setup man / high leverage guy and is one of the better relievers of the bullpen I'd reckon and you can't fault him really for this loss, he got hurt
@@firnenlegacy I don’t fault him for that loss, I just don’t think he has been “really good” for the Mariners. WHIP is 1.2, SO/9 is meh. Not bad, just ok.
I'm quite dejected about the state of the team as well. This could have easily been a six game win streak if less guys K with the bases loaded or if the pitching doesn't brainfart for multiple innings at a time. I hope this isn't the same roster as when they come back from the break. The Seattle Mariners need BATS, BATS, and MORE Bats!
I just want to say one thing about this baseball team in 2024.
We made it to the all-star break without being swept once.
I'm sure they get an award for this 😂
You are so right on I love listening to you. I love your emotion. I love your thought process your knowledge of the players and your guts to say what’s on your mind.
That means a lot!!! Thank you very much!!!
I’ve wiped my hands with Scott Servais. How is this dude still employed by Seattle Mariners. He is solely responsible for at least 10 losses by mismanaging the game and especially with the bullpen. I don’t care who is available. You can’t have Voth in that high leverage situation. That is a must win and Scott crapped the bed again. I feel sick for our starting pitching. They deserve better than Scott Servais.
Jerry and the computer guys make all the decisions for scott he is just a yes man for the front office
What more can Scott do? It’s poor ownership
If only Scott had a high leverage arm who they traded for this offseason and finally came off the IL 😂 🤦♂️
Should’ve have ever pulled Logan
@@ricardorincon2083 The mariners said that Santos was unavailable that game. No reason given.
@@jimpowers2950 then go to Thornton not Voth who had already pitched Friday and Saturday.
Voth should only pitch when we have a large lead, He just can't pitch for life. Holy Brocolli, man.
@@paulhan7770 it’s ok Scott Voth had already pitched 2 days in a row 🤦♂️ you could’ve gone to santos, heck even Thorny but no Scott decided hmm how about a guy who’s pitched 2 days in a row.
He should’ve never pulled Gilbert to start with 😡
Gilbert should have been out there... the game before the AllStar break? Shouldve had at least 10 to 15 more pitches in the tank.
The only thing more of a joke is the hitting...
What a frustrating series that, like you said, should've been in the M's favor to win. This may have been the most frustrating series all year, especially when they had a great opportunity to give themselves a cushion in the division.
Thank you for your commitment thru the highs and lows J, your videos always help me find some "closure" to move onto the next one. My goodness, we need this break! 🔱
Truly appreciate that!!! These type of comments make it worth it!!! Thank you!!!
Scott's inability to have a feel for the game as it's playing out is glaring. I'm telling you, if the M's don't add several impact players before the deadline, there's no chance they make the playoffs. Plus, Cal won't be signing an extension to stay with the Mariners if they sh*t the bed again this year. He will go somewhere that TRUELY wants to win a World Series and Boris will get him his bag for sure.
Extensions are off the table for Boras clients. Scott Boras has a policy of using the free market to get the best for his clients. Extensions won’t get the $$ for his clients. If Cal wasn’t a Boras client, then an extension might be possible.
Why would you want to sign an extension with a career .217 hitter who averages 112 strikeouts to 34 walks per season? Every 5-10 games on average he will get into one and go yard for an average of 20 homers per season. He’s a good defensive catcher with an above average arm and works well with the Mariners rotation, but he’s just too much of a liability at the plate and hasn’t really shown any progress in that area in his career with Seattle to this point. Perhaps he would benefit from some lineup protection being inserted into an actual legit MLB lineup instead of the triple A lineup Seattle trots out year after year, but even then he is still limited with how little progress he has made as a hitter.
@@jaredcarrick3468 Cal Hit 27 HR's w/63 RBI's in 2022 w/.211 BA , 30 HR's & 75 RBI's w/.232 BA last year. This year already @ 20 HR's & 61 RBI's, and his BA is .216. So as long as he keeps on pace, and brings his BA up , he will increase his HR's & RBI's. He's also a switch hitter with power from both sides. Handles the pitching staff excellently and is better than a good defensive catcher. I would like to see him increase his BA this year & cut down on K's as well, but to say he hasn't shown any progress is just not true.
@@flickoftheswitch1054 it is true. He has always had raw HR power. He has progressed a little in terms of his HR numbers and his RBIs subsequently are up, but the average combined with the K to BB ratio shows that any improvements he’s made at the plate are marginal at best. The 20 HR stat I gave you is his career average to this point, along with the other stats I threw in. He’s basically the next Mike Zunino
@@jaredcarrick3468 I agree, his BA & K rate at this time are not good. It would have been nice to see if he could have improved on both those stats this season. He still has the opportunity to improve his BA this year , but his K's are gonna be high again. It's unfortunate that the offense as a whole has been so terrible this year, as I think he would have had a much better chance of improving his overall numbers with a competent group of players around him. Plus, I believe Cal has way more upside than Zunino ever had. I guess I just would hate to see Cal go, I like his overall gameplay and not sure the Mariners would be able to find a replacement that could bring all the positive attributes that he brings to the table.
The last score that I saw was 2-0, Mariners in the Top of the 8th. Step away for 30 minutes, Mariners lose 3-2. WTF?
I turned it off once I found out they were pulling gilbert cause I had a bad feeling I shouldn't watch what was coming next. Checked the score a couple minutes later and realized we had been serviced.
That was probably the worst decision of the season by the manager to pull a dominating all star pitcher at 87 pitches in a must win game.
Taking Gilbert out with less than 90 pitches and pinching out the team's best hitter for one of its worst is just more Scottyball. He constantly outsmarts himself. I would almost be happy if the team misses the playoffs if it means an end to his incompetence weighing us all down.
Scottyball 😂😂
I don't have the heart to watch this one. I'm gonna watch all the games, but my hope levels are not high.
Good news is Dipoto will grab the scrubs left from what the Yankees, Dodgers and Orioles dont take with trades, Dipoto will try to look like a hero getting a scrub
This bullshit isn't Dipotos fault. You think he doesn't want to spend? It's Stanton and the rest of those clowns.
The schedule gets tough again at the month with boston and philadelphia
Guess it really doesn't matter though with this team. You can't count on them to do any better against the lousy teams than the good ones.
Has a first place MLB team ever fired a manager mid season? Just wondering.
Pitiful I don't kno what too do anymore...awful, terrible, frustrating, heartbreaking, we even beat them in the NAKED GUN MOVIE.....SAD😢....IM NOT LOOKING AT ANYMORE GAMES...
This was an unacceptable series loss the angels are really Bad they've lost 7 of the last 8 series since that texas sweep they've fallen apart the last month I don't feel good about the houston series after the break
Head to head after the break. That'll tell us a lot. I have bourbon and IPA's ready. Im going to have to ask Scott if i can watch more than 7 innings, though. Kudo's to our Capt for his bomb! Love ya, J!!
Appreciate you my friend!!!! Save an IPA for me! Enjoy the all star break!!!
So we blew the last game with the angels by not pitching Munoz so he can go to All Star game and doesn’t even pitch. Makes sense
It might to time for a change Servais has made some pretty dumb decisions... Get rid of the hitting coach too this offense hot garbage.
I blame Scott 100 % u gotta let logan stay in
Scott should have been fired 7 years ago when it became obvious that he was not up to the job.
This team sucks. Their inability to even put the ball in play is astounding. I’ve never seen anything like this.
Yeah it's wild how little they make contact.
Honestly at this point If the Mariners were to fire Scott Servais over the all star break instead of trading for a bat I feel like I would be okay with that at this point because Servais aswell as Dipoto I'm just done I understand ownership hasn't helped the situation but these guys just continue to make bonehead decisions whether it's questionable signings or just idiotic decisions that end up costing us games like today, something has gotta change and I just feel like this would be a good start.
jerry better add or I'm done for the season. Put Polo, Haniger, and Garver on waivers call up Locklear,Ford , and Evans, let Bliss have second Trade France put Woo in the bullpen for the season. Trade for Vlady and Rooker JMO Then we can have a good DH. Please Jerry this week.
I'm not gonna advocate for firing Scott mid season, as that kind of shake up would probably only make things worse for this season, but if they let him walk this off-season I won't be losing sleep over it. How on earth do you decide to take Logan out of that game? With how he was doing and the fact that his next start won't be for nearly 10 days, that was as bad of a decision as I've seen Scott make.
It's been obvious for a long long time, that Scott is just not good. Should have been replaced long ago. He's made so many bad decisions. There's a clear pattern. I have no idea why people have defended him.
U should put in for hazardous pay. To paraphrase one of my favorite movies, Godfather II- maybe Scott servais is unlucky. Why did the mariners change their rotation from Castillo, Kirby, Gilbert to insert Woo. As much as many know servais should go, this cheap org isn't going to pay Servais and a new manager. But Servais never seems to have this team ready on day games- got no-hit through 4 and 2/3s. I feel sorry for the pitchers in general but specifically for Gilbert. He's been getting this treatment all year. Well, get some bats and see what happens in the second half.
All the bonehead decisions that scott makes are made for him by jerry the overuse of analytics is killing this franchise into everlasting mediocrity
The Astros are 1 GB while he Rangers are now 5 GB in the division. It’s win the division or bust. Mariner YT’ers kept looking past the division into a World Series. You can’t count your chickens before they are hatched. Win the division, then hope for the best. Stressing division win should be the priority not winning the World Series. M’s haven’t won a division in decades. Looking past the division will leave the M’s out of the playoffs.
Why wasn’t Saucedo used to begin with?
Not so difficult to understand it as Gilbert explained in the post game presser, he has never pitched this many innings at this point in the season and they want to save his arm for the stretch run/playoffs.
Playoffs 😂
Btw they didn't even have Rengifo!
2:45 Just to make a quick comment on who's been the best pitcher for the Mariners this year, it's interesting that by Fangraphs WAR, Kirby has easily been the best, but by Baseball Reference WAR, Logan has easily been the best!
Either way though both are having great seasons!
Yeah I think you can make a case for both and even Castillo. I just meant it more heated in the moment it was a frustrating decision, but I won't argue any of the 3
I don't get it. I don't understand it.... Scott is horrible. I will root against us until he's fired. We're not gonna win or get to a WS with him. Move on!
rooting against your own team is psychotic
@@HondaCivictor Not if the end justifies the means.
@@HondaCivictor And sticking your fingers in both ears and pretending he's wrong---THAT'S PATHETIC.
You guys sound fun 😂😂
@@HondaCivictor I just stay on my toes. Like a dwarf at a urinal.
This series really pissed me off. Gilbert should have stayed in and if not Santos should have come out. I'm so sick of servais not letting anybody throw over 90 pitches. I feel like Stanek was hurt before he even came out.. Ugh I can't take this shit anymore man. If we don't make the playoffs I know what series I'm gona be pointing to. Fuckin weak ass offense. It's abysmal.
Fire Scott Servais! Done with him.
Embarrassing end to the first half of the season. Veterans need to pick it up in the 2nd half and management needs to pick up at least two bats.
The lack of hitting is atrocious. The philosophical approach of "control the zone" and making contact clearly didn't get through to the lineup. A collective 1,000 strikeouts by the lineup in the first half. On pace for 2,000 Ks to end the season (the record for a team being 1,654 by the Twins last year).
Ms are lucky to be in first place and it's only because of the pitching. I'm not one to usually call for firings, but if the season continues this way then Hollander, Dipoto, and Servais need to get the axe.
Extremely frustrating as a fan who has been told to "be patient" since 2016.
Well that was just sad once agian, think we can all say good time for the all star break team needs rest now, theu ready for it. No happy flight today but thata a wrap on the first half, huge make or break series at home i think coming up with the Astros on Friday. See you then, J! Just saying Santos should have been avaible this day, could munoz havee pitched with the ASG Tuesday?
I don't get it. Why pull Logan at 85 pitches in the 8th when he's dealing and his next start is at least a full week away? Whatever analytics they use to make these decisions are shit and don't work. Jerry thinks he's big brain, smartest guy in the room but it couldn't be further from the truth.
Voth is trash idc what anyone says
Why does everyone keep saying Stanek has been “really good?” This isn’t a shot at you at all. But I keep hearing it and his numbers are not great and really not even good.
The key term there is "good for the Mariners." Stanek's overall numbers may not be stellar, but he has been solid, esp in high leverage situations. He has 14 holds and 7 saves, and only definitively lost us a couple of games with a 6-2 record.
He's no Andres Munoz or Gregory Santos. But Stanek has been rock solid as a setup man / high leverage guy and is one of the better relievers of the bullpen I'd reckon
and you can't fault him really for this loss, he got hurt
@@firnenlegacy I don’t fault him for that loss, I just don’t think he has been “really good” for the Mariners. WHIP is 1.2, SO/9 is meh. Not bad, just ok.