Streetbeefs Icy Mike vs. Corey Guns: Complete Breakdown | A Superman Punch Heard Round the Internet
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2019
- This is a very thorough breakdown of my fight with Corey Guns at the world famous underground fight club, Streetbeefs. From a tactical standpoint and a storytelling standpoint this fight is one of the greatest and most underrated fights in Streetbeef's history, in my very biased opinion.
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Question for Viewers: Have you watched this fight? Do you think the decision was right?
I have watched it a bunch of times, never picked up on a few things though until seeing this breakdown, eg like the superman punch/mansac crunch combo.
I also thought 100% you had drilled that body shot from the clinch where you had his opposite side hand.
5:31 I was curious why that body shot landed because it looked he should have been able to see it coming for days but it makes now I know you did a faint to the right first. Shows the power setting up your strikes can have.
lastly I didnt know you could ropeadope someone on the ground from the bottom by weighing 60lbs less than them haha. You need to be given purprle belt for this.
I am surprised it was controversial who won, didn't keep score but vast majority of significant strikes landed were yours, even in the second round. He was pretty badass though, I respect the hell out of those kicks he threw in the opening minute and also for not reacting after that lumberjack leg kick you gave him.
I'd give him the round 2 because you cracked his nuts, and this hard to recover from that...( By the way, don't you guys wear cups ?!) But you had better cardio, better technique and you were smaller, so overall, I think you deserved the win.
Corey's problem was that he didn't use enough Aikido
I have watched the fight before but watched it again and payed extra attention to the second round. In my very unprofesional oppinion there is no doubt, you won absolutly won that round!
As a self defense advocate and former cop, can you tell me how to phaycially fight my speeding ticket?
It is nice to see someone putting in practice what he teaches. For me your channel is surely in the top 5 on UA-cam about fighting/self defense
Who do I gotta knock off to get that number 1 spot?
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@@hard2hurt IMO, the only three at your level are Shane from Fighttips and Jeff Chann from MMA Shredded. Precision Striking is the best for straight boxing.
@@Nepthu Ramsey Dewey is good too
Kelti he doesn’t do enough editing.
"I kicked his balls..." *Jay starts to retreat* I guess that amount of side kicks you gave him are starting make an effect.
These are really interesting to watch. I appreciate that you actually explain what you did wrong and don't just try to show the good sides of yourself.
It's not in my nature anyway, but even if it was that ALWAYS shows through when you do that.
I love how Mike experiments with different strategies and actually TESTS them! Great stuff Mike!
My face doesn't love it.
@@hard2hurt well we appreciate it
And people say groin strikes don't work. Icy Mike is a chivalrous dude tho.
It works only if you can land it before getting your head taken off which is very unlikely. I wouldn't build my fight game around that. It was quite legal in the first UFC's and other such less known tournaments luke Vale Tudo. Have you ever seen a groin kick finish a fight there?
@@truthabouttheworld3186 the ufc guys had cups.
@@truthabouttheworld3186 Bas Rutten fought in those earlier UFC years and he's always said his go to in a street fight is strait for the nuts.
You just cannot expect it to be a one and done. Of course it will hurt, but with adrenaline going, as you saw, someone can still come at you even if you hit them in the groin. This was not a street fight, or asocial violence. Also, Mike was nice enough to give him a break.
@@travisgordon9470 fax
Corey made a mistake when he went for that ground and pound. I guess he didn't realize that you were so... ... ... Hard to hurt
I know I know... I'll just let myself out :p
@@jimybrooks6055 trying my best to upgrade to a master baiter like Mike :p :p
bus stop's that way champ!
HAHA... roll credits!
Great 🤣
You say your jiujitsu is weak but I saw one of your fights where you exhausted a big dude from guard all while not eating any real shots. That’s good enough jiujitsu for the most part, imho. I think it was that dragon guy you did that way.
"good enough" haha I'll take it!
@@psyience3213 Agreed... the SHITTIEST BJJ in the world shuts down zero BJJ instantly. Striking doesn't quite work that way... I did a video on this very principle.
hard2hurt you've gottttta get those bjj basics down. That fight has been a while, so maybe things have changed, but you'll be a well-rounded demon if you tune it up. Even the 36-ish Gracie University basics would make you a more controlling* fighter.
*I say this because you just smashing muggles is kind of f'd up. With bjj at least it would be a kinder euthanasia.
Love the fight breakdowns. It's fun to see what people are thinking as the fight goes on.
I think so too... I always wish others did them so I figured some of you would dig it!
This video has to be in the top 1% of my favorite fight training videos on YT. This level of self analysis and instruction for viewers is very rare. I don't know why more fighters who also instruct or run their own schools don't do this.
As for the fight results, you won the fight in absolute terms. You would have finished earlier without rounds and time limits with your superior endurance and energy management.
I don't know what the rules are for street beefs. I would understand giving Cory the 2nd round for the groin shot if that's what the rules clearly dictated, but that would be victory by technical foul. Not to take anything from Corey, he has lots of heart and will likely improve if he continues training and learning from his mistakes. I would be nervous about a re-match if I were you.
Many of the more proficient fighters that I know, the pros and what not, generally don't have a lot of ability (or interest) in really explaining in depth what was going on at the time. Sometimes I think they have trouble with honestly assessing themselves, and other times I think they might have been operating more on instinct and training then thought out strategy. I've always had a little more interest than talent, and a little more knowledge than skill. I probably should have been a commentator rather than trying to fight myself.
@@hard2hurt No, you are very good at both. I think you are comparing your perfect plan with the actual execution. That doesn't match up for anyone, except maybe for Henry Cejudo, he has a gold medal in case you didn't know.
And wow, you requested fights with guys 200+ lbs? And I'm assuming these street beef guys all have some training and experience. Very ballsy, but you obviously have the skills to do it.
"a little more interest than talent, and a little more knowledge than skill" we have that in common, except add "very" in front of the little. You give me hope.
@@hard2hurt 2 years after the comment, apologies. :) You described one of the things I've found about myself as well -- more interest than ability/talent; more knowledge than skill as you said. I can do a decent post-game analysis on fights I'm in or that I watch, and that has helped me to coach others. Skill sets that I'm weak on (including grappling) tend to get my frustration and embarrassment going more, heart rate goes higher, and compounds the lack of knowledge to observe myself or get any useful lessons out of a fight round. That gives me some obvious stuff to work on, and learning about wrestling has been a big complement to my striking.
I found that this analytical mindset and approach to fighting made it relatively more difficult for me to relate to many students or training partners, who do respond more to repping out drills until they burn in the muscle memory. They then fight more from intuition using those learned responses, and it's hard for me to communicate how they can train up from there. It's been 20 years, so I've figured out and learned from others a few teaching tools, but it's still a fun, sometimes difficult challenge.
I love the glimpses you provide into training, sparring, fighting, and the thinking behind each component.
This was definitely a gem, on top of the fight video itself
@@hard2hurt This comment is three years old. I'm curious, do you still feel this way? "I've always had a little more interest than talent, and a little more knowledge than skill. I probably should have been a commentator rather than trying to fight myself."
Damn, I'm impressed. This other guy was quite a bit bigger. Also, he didn't have the same conditioning. But, he does have legit fighting skills. The fact that you were able to visibly hurt him , speaks volumes. You are definitely the real deal when agreeing to a fight with a much bigger opponent. Great fight. Great video! 💯
For breaking down your own fight, it was non-bias and informational. Nice break from other channels material. Keep at it Mike!
Great break down. This is one of my favorite street beefs. Icey Mike put that work in on a much better opponent. Definitely appreciate your skill set in real time.
Thanks man.
Street beefs is one of the most hood productions I've ever seen. it's awesome.
Really good instructional break down and great sportsmanship. Thank you 🥋⚡️🙏🏻
Man, I hate to be that guy who says "You should have done this or that", (especially since you did a great job nullifying the size and strength advantage). It's easy to watch and analyze and it's hard to improvise and come up with your next move in the heat of the moment. So, I recognize that. However, I also recognize that you probably posted your analysis to get a conversation going. So, here we are. There are a couple high level things I'd like to point out:
Half way through the video you mention using the cross-face collar tie(6:38), early in the fight you should have framed with the cross-face collar tie while you were on the ground(2:52). It's easy to put on and it provides really good protection against the left side and would have kept him from immobilizing your arm while he was going for that Americana. Lots of options from there. (transition to full guard, sweep, etc.)
Leaping left body shot is very cool. That little slippy cover-up you do prior is interesting.
Kick into superman is a technique that I can tell you've drilled a million times, so nobody blames you for following the kick to the nuts with the punch. It's second nature to you now and you probably didn't realize until after the fact that you kicked his sack. I know the feeling.
9:39 This combination was super effective against him. Well done.
When you took his back, you were in a good position to finish the fight, but looks like you ran out of time. I've heard you go on about having poor Jiu Jitsu, why not focus on it so you can capitalize on things like back position without taking up too much time?
Once again, it's easy for me to point things out as the guy watching and analyzing. It's hard AF in the moment to always do exactly the right thing.
Well fought Icymike, I like that you don't back down and you put your skills/reputation etc. on the line to show the world that you know what you're doing. I have a lot of respect for that.
My questions for you: I know you mentioned you wanted to fight someone bigger than you, but when you were faced with it, did you second guess yourself? Did you think to yourself "man, what have I gotten myself into?".
Yes. He started moving much faster and more intently than I had imagined he would and he distributed his weight well when he was on top. I remember getting up and thinking "No more mistakes." but during the first round I was definitely having an "oh shit" moment. It was not going how I imagined it would and the lighting played a HUGE role. He was moving faster than I had prepared for so I sort of second guessed my striking... which was fine as I didn't really want to kick until after he was tired but for sure it was terrifying.
Mike, I’m so glad I found your channel! Anyone interested in real life safety should watch your videos. Keep up the great work!
There's a martial arts for defeating bigger guys, it's called carryu afucking gun-jutsu
Lool
Or action shooting
@@mattmarzula Mind ya own business-Jutsu
@@ricefarmer8292 heyoooooooooo!
@@mattmarzula you prolly was that annoying nerd in school
Icy Mike: I want to fight someone over 200lbs
Scarface: Sure...
Scarface: For this match we have Icy Mike vs Godzilla!
Jimmy Chimmy ok it was somehow flat but i cant stop giggling about it^^
Yeah really. That guy beat Vandall.
@@hard2hurt Vandall is even bigger. There is always a bigger fish... 🤔😊
@@Johnnyjoejoe fuck you pal! Fuuuuuuck that.
2 of my favourite comedians in the state of Virginia, Icy Mike and Jay Roush. If this couching thing doesn't work out you can always become a stand-up duo
Jay gets the title in Virginia then... I'm not from there.
I've seen the fight without knowing that it was you at first, but I love your fighting style 🔥🔥
Hello Mr. Mike.
That was a good fight, both of you gentlemen are to be commended. I never had the stamina to be a good fighter, and when I got tired I favored the "just pound on my head for a while while I catch my breath" technique, so to watch a man as big as your opponent go that hard for that long and not run completely out of steam was pretty cool.
Wasn't cool for me.
@@hard2hurt lol, yeah, but that was a choice you made.
@@hard2hurt it may not have been cool but you are Icy
Watched a few of your videos before thought they where pretty cool, seeing that you've actually fought made me subscribe. Awesome videos
Big fan of all you are doing! Great work guys!👍💯
The move is pretty common in our practical wing chun school and we try to do it all the time, but not only from a clinch. With the time is rarely works anymore.
This is my new favorite channel. Great info with humor, really easy to watch and learn. you seem like a really great guy Mike, keep it up brother 💪💪
Thanks man
I really enjoyed that breakdown. Was really informative.
Just stumbled on your channel. I remember seeing your fight on Streetbeefs, and thinking 'wow, they're finding guys who can actually fight now.
Great fight man! The other guy was fine, but you were better. You managed to overcome his greater weight and strength with technical superiority, in both striking and grappling, both standing and on the ground. You also seem to be more fit. Congrats
Fitness is super important.
2:05 It is a Wing Chun lopsao, but applied realistically 😉
Do a breakdown of Scarface's temper tantrum
I still come by and watch these gems, big ups Icy Mike
I'm going to go watch it right tf now. BamBam streetbeefs west coast here. I'm just now realizing you fought for streetbeefs fam. Much love and respect 🙏 thanks for sharing this with us.
The step in body shot got my "Like" but the Superman punch followed by the left hook got my subscribe.
Well done!
It was one of the most enjoyable fights I've watched on Streetbeefs. I'd like to see another small guy big guy fight, But it would have to be a very brave big guy.
Yeah they try to get away from them. In our case it was an exception because we felt we had hit the right balance between a size and skill disparity. Also the big guy stands to lose a lot by taking a fight with a smaller person that is not highly regarded. Because if he wins who cares and if he loses wtf!
You won round 2 Mike. I had you winning a unanimous decision. That was a great fight by both of you 👍!
When he grabbed your arm did the "John Wick, judo roll." It's because he more than likely wrestled in highschool. When you start to panic instinct takes over. I done almost the same thing before, and ended up giving my back to someone and lost the fight because of it.
I really appreciate the editing in this video
Ugh thank you... I use windows movie maker which is... clumsy.
dam i rewatched this fight yesterday practicing that feint leg kick to super man punch
Loved this video! Love seeing the sportsmanship too!
The fight that I want to see on Streetbeefs is Icy Mike vs. Mighty Mouse. Now that would be the most entertaining fight of 2019.
Probably not.
hard2hurt Why not.
@@kobiesboxing4956 it would be hella boring.
I have been watching here and there but hesitant of this channel until now. I just subscribed and liked this channel and will continue to watching your videos because you are an honest dude. I have not seen someone correct themselves as much as you just did in this video. I can get down with that. Great video and humbleness.
Loved it my bro. Definitely got practice that clinch technique that you invented.
Lol I didn't invent it... I improvised it and there's probably some good reason why it's a terrible idea.
The last things always stand out in people's memories and it kinda makes sense in fighting since then it's also related to exhaustion.
As always, another great educational journey.
That's very generous but thanks haha.
Mike, I really love your videos. I will say, I have seen that hand grab and body shot before. My dad showed me a shot like that when I was learning to grapple, and I incorporate it in my HEMA grappling
Real tough guy You are,great fight man,I love that yoko geri on chudan.
A lot to learn from this video. And a lot of thanks to Corey for a really good fight.
I appreciate that. I didn't want to break this down this in depth because I thought it was very "hey look at me" but I felt like there were a lot of lessons from it.
I think you won round two. Leg kicks aren't flashy to the untrained eye, but that shit hurt him and I know it. I had the same thought when he 'judo threw' you. Everyone was acting like he did something, but unless he was gonna transition into a leg press and shrimp out he just gave you the hooks for the back.
Kudos Mike you're the only instructor who walks the walk don't see anyone else duking it out for real.
This was fun thanks!
Love you Icy Mike. You break it down simple and shit works. Also, you give props. You’re an orange saint.
Can you breakdown your other street beef fights? They're all pretty good.
I already did the Dragon... Ninja Ron might be interesting.
*shook off lol... also been watching yer channel for a bit now... thanks for all the tips and answers to questions i have about developing myself to be a more complete human.
Great stuff mike!
That lil' kiss at the end was adorable.
Great editing between the gym training and the actual Corey fight.
It is so fucking cool that a self defense guy on youtube actually shows us his fights and doesn't just talk the talk. Mad respect for you man. There's no doubt in my mind that your advice would work in real situations. If you're in SoCal, would love to come train with you sometime! I started striking training (muy thai and boxing) at a local MMA gym 2 months ago and you seem to really be well versed in muy thai.
Good stuff! Thank you!
Really like this type of content, will you compete in street beefs again?:)
Very unlikely.
Very impressive putting your reputation on the line, man you've got 'big balls"...
Love your no nonsense techniques...
Regards Ray
Dublin Ireland
I’ve only see a few of your videos. You walk the walk. You’re an exceptional teacher.
I havnt watched the fight..
But from what I've seen here, it was cool to watch 💪
You found the good or interesting techniques, criticised the more unfortunate choices and in the end, learnt.
That's perfect really.
wow mike, its avery cool montage, i just discovered your channel, keep it up
Lotta respect for doing the fight. Most guys talk shit and never fight. Cheers professor for practicing what you preach 🍻😎
I think any body punch and leg kick system is designed for shorter vs taller match ups though, Mike Zambidis was a giant slayer at 5'6" - it's all about fighting according to your own body type and their physical disparitiers IMO
Cool video, more videos exemples like this one please.... with your fights or others!!!👍👍👍👍👍
Good breakdown mike
Do you think the Superman followed by left would have ko’d a guy your size? Seemed to me this was a great example of how size does and doesn’t “matter” in a fight. You had the skills and conditioning to clearly win the decision and it seems like you could have gone for a choke several times if BJJ was more core for you but didn’t drop him w your big bombs. Your aggressive clinch seemed to be functional against bigger man which was impressive.
What are some other thoughts about “weight classes” in real life. And huge props for doing the do in a known fight club and posting it. I don’t see a lot of instructors doing that. Final ? How would you say this guy (and some of the other SB regulars) rates as average joe who gets in bar/bully fights for fun?
Okay now since I’ve been in an actual situation with someone much heavier, taller and skilled than me I actually relate to this video.
Honestly it was a horrible situation but I’m happy I did enough to survive despite me being extremely out of practice and out of shape.
"Street beEEfs" 😂😂😂
Brilliant
Goddammit.
No way did the other dude win, it was very clear who won, the only good round he had was the first
Thanks.
@@seansnipes8334 Really? Please elaborate.
Did you expect some Wing Chun Ip Man fighting?
my jujitsu coach actually taught me this one, when he goes over techniques he shows us the way to use it for jujitsu and then he shows us other uses for the technique. he shows us an arm drag with the same kind of trap you used then he told us if its mma or a striking situationthe uppercut on that side is way open. I was actually hyped when i saw you do it and get back to the clinch
Hey Mike been watching here a few weeks and your teaching methods the way you explain things is great . Wish I can drop in check it out , but I’m on Cali. And your where ever your at looks rainy all the time . What name of your school ?
I didn’t like the kobuton video, but I appreciated the flashlight video and subscribed after this video. Looking forward to learning more.
i love when you suddenly side kick someone lol
I’ve been practicing your pulling the arm across technique that you were talking about in the beginning of this video. It’s awesome. I’ve been chaining it to a right hook to the head or right uppercut and or left straight. Try it. 🙌🏻🤟🏼
My goodness man I wish I could learn from you in person
This is so much better than watching MMA with all its noise - you could hear that uppercut connect xD
Very good fight and breakdown! 11:36 when i was watching the fight i was thinking "why he isn't flatting him (like you showed) and going for rear naked choke?"
I forgot.
I like how he acknowledges the environmental factors that aren’t there in a gym. Specifically the wet grass.
The squirm that groin shot have me eeek
I thought the ballshot in the fight was on accident until u ended the vid like that lol great content.
Great video! Breakdown Scarface vs White Dragon please.
Hahaha nice try. No.
Finally subbed.
"where you going?" Hahaha priceless
That’s a tender moment on the thumbnail chaps. ♥️
Good shiet !! Thank you !
Please do more street beefs
I heard that air on the push kick bro! That hurt. Probs opened him up pretty good, defs killed his endurance. My buddy Brad kicked a guy down a flight of stairs at n arena with a hella good push kick once. I've never had the "real" pleasure, only sparring, but still fun.
if street beef friends would organize a tournament with weight categories for example, I'd like to see you as a participant. Nice video even today, greetings from Southern Italy
What about a battle royal!
@@hard2hurt good idea, too. The first SB fights was between 4 people, very entertaining XD
You're crazy man to go on this type of fight , be careful with the cop and thanks your videos !
@@mattmarzula yes !
Its legal.
@@cuzz63 oh ! Really ? I thought it was like Kimbo slice street fight
They're not sanctioned but they are legal and I am no longer a government pawn so I do what I WANT SUCKA!!!
@@pierrebridenne8870 , the only thing that was illegal about Kimbo slices fights were they were fighting for money without being sanctioned. You can hold unsanctioned fights without charging people or paying fighters, gyms all over legally have whats commonly called "smokers". The argument can be made that what Kimbo Slice was doing wasnt a street fight since it was a prearranged prize fight, often people would intervene when rules were broken..ie breaking the clinch and not allowing ground fighting.
A year late but I'm going to have to disagree with you. I think ALL martial arts are for allowing small guys to beat big guys. The problem is when those big guys also know martial arts
The kiss at the end adds insult to injury for sure
Icy Mike how do you deal with the nervousness before one of your fights or how did you feel and how did your first ever fight go down
Happens to everyone of normal intelligence. Just gets better each time.
When are you fighting again mike??
Mike do you have any tips for increasing range of motion in kicks?
That was a great fight. Huge size difference too.
Yeah he was bigger than I thought he was gonna be.
@@hard2hurt very well done Mike. He is an intimidating dude and he clearly knows how to fight, standing, wrestling, grappling. You broke past the fear and went straight after him. You are very much like me.
Putting your leg hooks in and flattening the guy would have been crazy to see. I've never really seen that in mma more of wrestling.
I think you did get the better of him the 2nd and 3rd rounds. It looked even better just because of the size difference lol! He looks like he's 2 of ya bro! Good fight!