HardHeadVeterans ATE Bump Helmet Review
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- Опубліковано 14 бер 2021
- Bump helmets are the most affordable way to mount night vision, hearing protection, and sick morale patches, if you don't need ballistic protection for your braincase. The HHV ATE Bump helmet is more affordable than an OpsCore or Team Wendy bump, and less risky than your average Wish.com purchase.
Not all bump helmets are created equal, but not all of them are priced equally either. - Спорт
It’s like they expect you to take the rails off, install everything onto them, and then reinstall the rails onto the helmet
I think so. You have to use a pencil eraser to keep those circular nuts from spinning freely when you reinstall them. Just another tool to have in your range bag.
@@Hoplopfheil they look like nuts used on holsters, many of which have slots cut on them for tightening, but those on the helmet don’t look like they have it.
You might be able to swap them out for said ones with the slot however.
Or, there's always the option of super glue. No moving parts, no additional risk. Less space required than a chuck and screwdriver for your range bag. Hell, you might already have it in a bag if youre wise or smart.
Update: the pencil eraser trick works pretty well to hold the nuts in place for removal and reinstallation. Unfortunately one of the three hex-head screws on the left side rail (the one I wanted to remove to install a rail section) was badly stripped from the factory, so this ended up not being an option anyway.
Sweet!
its what MTEK expects too. the difference is that MTEK rails come off without any hassle. Due to the bolt-through-less design of the shell, the bolts that hold the rails just screw into a thread that sticks out of the helmet.
I had a special friend in elementary school who had to wear a bump helmet. Yours is a lot cooler looking of course.
That friend was probably wearing an OG protec so really the jokes on Delta
😂
You're doing god's work for the entry level NV guys here. Keep it up.
It's really easy to waste money on the subject since it's pretty esoteric and the information isn't as widely disseminated. Thankfully if you're wealthy enough you can certainly buy your way into all the conveniences and minimize any hang ups. I love my Ops Core SF Carbon bump. It's not cheap but it straddles the line between a cheap bump and a high quality ballistic helmet.
Oh it is definitely a bump helmet.
Missed u grandma Debbie😍😍
For the mlok issue your having, before you mount anything tighten the accessory till the mlok is tightened all the way then back it off till you can just rotate it with your hand, then line the mlok up and insert. From there once you tighten it it’ll almost 100% of the time line up. It’s hard when they are loose and rotate freely
This
Good straight forward and honest review. I ordered one about an hour ago. Figured it would be good choice for my first bump helmet without breaking the bank
The trick with hidden T nuts like MOE handguard for example is to tighten all the way then insert the attachment and back off the screws til they go loose then a half turn tight should get them to catch and then torque em
I’ve been looking to get the HHV ballistic helmet and just mounting Peltors to it. Really good to know about the M-LOK rails. I wouldn’t have even thought of that!
Making this comment so others realize an additional option they can use.
I got the HHV bump, then right after I bought the replacement Opscore style ARC rails and harness from Ballistic Armor Co. It fit fine enough stock, but still kinda sloppy. Once the replacement parts came in and got swapped, it fit 1000x better. Got an amazon G24 and NoiseFighters AX-14 arm, been rocking pretty good honestly. Recently mounted the Opscore AMP arms with the AXL straps for some howard leights and its even better now.
This is the first time Ive added everything together for my helmet so, here goes... Not gonna put dollar signs to avoid potentially flagging something in the algorithm
Sketchy PVS-14 that works beautifully: 800
Amazon G24: 40
NoiseFighters AX-14: 120?(some kind of release deal)
HHV Bump: 180(some kind of first time buyer discount, may need to have honey installed)
BAC ARC rails and dial harness: 60
Trex arms battery/bungie NV tie off: 20
Microbat counterweight: 60
Opscore AMP arms with AXL strap combo: 200
Howard Leight earpro: 40
NoiseFighters gel cups: 60(but were a gift from Neal himself years ago)
About 1600 in total, which is amazing when talking about a NV set up. I still need the IR aiming device though. And I didnt go the absolute cheapest route.
I basically gave up with the mlok rails and started wearing my earpro under my helmet the hit to comfort is something I personally can live with and I get the upside of being able to remove my helmet and keep my earpro on
Thanks Hop, very cool!
Looking forward to the eventual video on the converted CVC.
That's basically what this is. 😆
Us 19Ks were ahead of the times.
Wow that was some great recording by the Sionyx! I'm just going to get one of those instead of a PVS-14! Thanks Hop!
He'd probably sell his cheap.
You injure me, sir
Rim shot 😎🥁
got em 😎
Love ya vids! With mlok go by feel not seeing it being perpendicular on the mount! I’ve never looked at any mlok rails on my carbine it’s by feel only! Hated to see you replace the slickster 1.0 tho not gonna lie! lol have you considered sewing zippers on the OG slickster to mod it to a 2.0 variant?
Love to see a quick video on that nvg retention system. Looks pretty cool compared to the spendy wilcox lanyard.
The mlok rails I've used (have it on a magpul edition rifle) have a shelf inside the mlok slots that prevent the lug from spinning 360 degrees. That way if it slips in the mlok holes and u can tighten it its always affixed correctly. Wonder why that feature isn't on this helmet?
Would love to hear about the CVC . Fixing to build one
The HHV ballistic helmet is great. I will admit that MLOK works great on paper, but, there really isn't a lot of "out of the box" MLOK helmet products out there. I just completed the MSA Sordin SARA installation on a pair of MSA Avengers. Not a huge PIA, but, definitely not my favorite way to spend a Saturday night. My MLOK rails haven't been an issue, but, you do need to pay extra attention to the T-nut during install. Like Hop said, you can't visually verify afterward. All in all, the tricky part is getting the helmet configured to your preference(s). Once you've done that, you're golden. I would do it again.
"great"
Its also compatible with team wendy pads and cam system
what do you think of the FMA bump helmets? I only ask as in the helmets they have UK safety ratings certifying them as bump helmets.
who needs that when you can get an m56 and some super glue
glad ur wearing headgear hop u gotta _live_
Great info
I bought the ATE bump helmet and after adding a team wendy cam-lock and some arc rails to it, I realize I should have just bought an opscore or team wendy instead.
Pleeeeaaase on that CVC conversion video you teased at the start. Not enough YT content on them IMO
Cool, thanks.
For everyone saying installing stuff on the rails is hard Google how the y but works and then try it makes the process so much simpler it’s actually a pretty good design
Anyone know if you can swap mtek’s version of mlok rails onto an HHV gen2 ballistic helmet?
I forgot what it was, but there was an mlok rail different from the rest of mine I was installing a while back.
It was where it would effectively lock the T nut into a perpendicular angle if pulled up against the rail segment, and you had to push down to rotate it parallel.
Quite literally if the screw was pulled outwards, the T nut would be stuck perpendicular even without the screw tightened, and it'd stay perpendicular throughout tightening.
Super neat, and I've only ever seen it once. I'm sure something like that would work great for blind mlok segments.
Is there a way to get the Comtacs for less than $500-900? I have Sordins and used HHV's adapters to attach them to my Team Wendy helmet, but they don't really seem tight enough against my ears.
You might have to modify the adapters. Slide the earpro up or down the stems to adjust the seal.
If you need comtacs with a mic and a comms downlead, you're going to pay a lot.
@@Hoplopfheil I figured that would be the case. Thanks for the info!
Caiman hybrid is the best helmet I've used.
What fde mount is that? I want to put ear muffs on my HHV helmet. Thanks
It just so happens to be that I am starting my new bump/ballistic helmet endeavor. I also happen to greatly value your opinion on these matters.
If you had to start this process over - what would you choose as far as helmet and accessories? Also keep in mind that the budget is fairly large and flexible.
Stay classy my friend.
If I wasn't going to hike with it so much I would probably get a Hoplite fully loaded high cut ballistic.
@@Hoplopfheil For the money spent on the HHV bump, what about going with HHV's or somebody else's IIIA MICH and adding NVG hardware aftermarket? Good way to save money or should I buy once Crye once?
@@andrewpatti3728 If I was buying ballistic I wouldn't get an un-certified HHV. Upfitting a surplus ACH/MICH is possible but I wouldn't recommend it versus a bump.
@@Hoplopfheil - can you recommend a bump helmet for someone with a very big head plus hair 3 Xlrg maybe??
@@Hoplopfheil I'm not sure the Hoplite helmets are certified either. They only say on their website that the helmets are NIJ level IIIa, not that they are certified. While they do list their rifle plates as certified. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.
Buying A airsoft knock off with removable shroud.
And replacing the shroud with a real one team Wendy boa and 4d pads actually seems like the best bump helmet in the end you wind up around $300
Interested to hear about your converted CVC, I built one myself.
How long did you have to hunt for a shell? I've been wanting to do one too
i've always found HHV to be that sort of bro-vet 'buy our stuff because america' type of company, you know the type. judging from this video, i've genuinely used chinashit airsoft stuff that's had better tolerances than that. but as he said, at the end of the day it's just something you're strapping night vision to; though problems do add up.
Can the m lok rail be replace with ARC rails on the HHV bump helmet?
What mod armory parts did you use to mount the pvs14 to the norotos rhino mount?
@holopfheil
PYRM and their dovetail swing arm.
The mtek the rail is in to parts and you take the mlok off to mount accessories
Hop did you used to do airsoft at Splat Action or Snipers Den or other local places?
You look very firmilar? 🤔
Nope
@@Hoplopfheil 😎👍
What a knickknack!
You could pop the rail off the side to attach accessories.
The rails are held on by those circular nuts with no anti-rotation. Removing and reinstalling them isn't a great idea.
Can you recommend hearing protection on helmet i couldnt make out what you said?
Can you attach the face shield and a side light simultaneously?
Uhhh at 4:44 mark I know its night time and all but that flash hider is making a lot of sparks. Is it made of titanium or some other metal that is non traditional for a muzzle break?
Ruger Radial comp. Muzzle flash looks interesting on an Aurora.
Dont know if youll see this but wanna hit me up with the link for the ear pro and mount?
snazzy vid
Any experience with PTS MTEK flux bump helmet?
I have a PTS MTEK flux helmet, The helmet its self is nice to wear. The Shroud required some light Dremel work around the locking tab to allow my rhino II mount to lock in properly. Now it will lock in and is really snug. I still need to get a retention device of some kind just to be on the safe side. I should make a video on it once I get more time with it.
Also TFB.com had a good article on it. www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/01/17/friday-night-lights-pts-mtex-flux-bump-helmet/
Are you using the unity mark 2.0 or 3.0 for your peltors?
This is what I'd like to know as well
I don't wanna be that guy but why not unscrew the rails to add the mlok
Where did you get the tree patch? I can’t find it on the google.
It doesn't exist
Just had to be there friend which reminds me think my ex has it Fuck
Does anyone know of a system for mounting a visor?
What rucksack are you carrying?
For that price, why wouldn’t you just buy an ACH?
Wait they ate it??? Was it good. My buddy eric ate one too that's why he sees that
This is some strange deep lore you have going on.
@@Hoplopfheil just remembering him
Hi Hop.
Isn't mlok designed to be used "blind"
US night vision bump goes for 150
Chad m1 helmet vs virgin bump helmet
Real men attach a rhino mount to their ball cap
Real men drill and tap their own forehead for a three hole shroud.
Dern. Kind of a let-down. JUST ordered one too…STILL waiting, unfortunately ON THEIR “SAME-DAY shipping”. Go figure. This is a cause for concern on the “mounting” issues with the M-lok rails and the ‘T-nut’ aspect. Guess I’ll obviously be giving it a go. Realistically though, I haven’t heard anybody EVEN complain about their HHV helmet, all seem satisfied with them. Me, I have ZERO (comparison) experience between any of the 3 mentioned BUMPS ..
Does one of these really offer that much more than a pro-tec skateboard helmet?
Not when it comes to protection against bullets, ricochets and frags. Just the rails help for mounting stuff. Idk, glue some picatinny rails to your skateboard helmet.
(Honestly don't know, I've only bought ballistic helmets to be on the safe side).
@@andreivaldez2929 this one shown sadly doesn't have any ballistic capabilities at all, probably isn't rated for impacts either
The point is mounting accessories, and protecting yourself from smacking your head on a beam, not bullets
any word on HHV's ballistic helmets? I've been told to steer clear of them cuz ''something something China'', but the price is very appealing.
looking forward to the modded CVC video!
Their ballistic helmets are not NIJ certified, which is kind of sketchy. If I was buying ballistic I would get a Hoplite.
I think they are assembled in china. Plus the ach they sell doesnt have a nvg hole; I never thought I would buy nods but did and had to drill a hole that potentially compromised the kevlar.
I'd seen a ballistic test on them on InRange. They held up fine until the end of what is NIJ certified for 3A (i.e. the magnum pistol calibers). If you want to cheap out on them (I did), just avoid getting shot in the head with a Desert Eagle. Otherwise go with someone more reputable. Buy Once, Cry Once.
@@Hoplopfheil Hop, their ballistic helmets are NIJ certified. You can watch the testing videos as well as see the NIJ report on their website
I've had negative dealings with their customer service. So between that and being a Chinese-made helmet, exploiting the veteran name for sales while selling questionable Chinese products, and a crappy rail design.... I'll pass.
exactly, the Team Wendy is american made and a better product for a couple bucks more
I despise the mlok rails on the HHV helmets
Wait I thought HHV was made in the USA?
They are now. When this video was made (and when I bought mine in spring 2022) they were made in China.
@@YungBeezer Only their $1000+ "Lite" model. The basic ATE ballistic helmet explicitly states in the description that the shells are pressed in China and I bet it's the same with their bump helmets.
never fuckin mind i just found a team wendy bump for cheaper than an hhv bump
At the risk of sounding like a mouth breather, where might one get that "Respect Trees' patch?
They no longer exist
@@Hoplopfheil This was my greatest fear, for the drippiest of patches always seem to be short run. Thanks anyway
I wish I could go back to the days when the felons founded this country and free men actually valued freedom enough to fight for it.
The reason nobody is fighting is the ones that would fight have already been disarmed by their countrymen, so much for the constitution.
Just take the rails off, then attach the items.
Oh no! I forgot to get a morale patch for my new Team Wendy Exfil.
The problems you're having are not the fault of the design, it's because you're not properly installing the M-LOK nuts. Tighten the nuts on the bolt fully, then place them in the slot. Loosen them until you feel them turn freely, you will feel it very easily. Then turn to the right and it will catch perfectly perpendicular on the rail, continue to tighten then repeat on the other bolts. Now you can remove them and have perfectly spaced nuts. There is no need to visually observe the inside of the rail whatsoever.
The HHV rails don't properly catch the T nuts, and the design of their rail section cause it to just fall apart if you loosen it that far.
I feel better about having dropped $375 (helmet & cover) on a TW lid- after watching this. 🤔😬
Anyone who complains about having to uninstall the rails on this is ridiculous. It's six screws between the both of them XD
And only four of them are stripped!
@@Hoplopfheil that’s a fair complaint 😂 I don’t mind messing with the rails but the bolts should be better quality for sure
so whats a good rail system? whats standard? what are they even called? fuck...
You could literally buy milsurp for less and that is ballistic rated
But weighs alot. Not great for those of us that spend a lot of time under nods. Your neck disks don't like to be compressed.
Never understood why people pay $200 for a glorified bike helmet when surplus ach can be bought for that or cheaper and you can stick the arc rails on there if you really need to. I would probably even chance the crap chinese ops core knockoffs knowing it probably has *some* ballistic protection rather than none.
Weight
Disappointed that they're built in... China.
disappointed ur phone was made in China
@@moglyz9911 little bit different when its high velocity lead, or how fast my x rated videos buffer.
HHV reputation is super questionable and sus. s
SUS from among us😳😳😳😳😳😳
@@plmkoo6772 Sus predates among us bro...idk why you even brought that up.
Exploiting veterans for personal gain and helping to fund our enemy in China while reducing US capability to provide for itself all to save a few bucks on potential sub standard life saving goods.
please. stop. giving. your. money. to. china.
That's a noble but fruitless goal.