Merchant Navy 35010 'Blue Star' on the move!

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  • Опубліковано 10 гру 2024

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  • @aj-2savage896
    @aj-2savage896 10 місяців тому +14

    The thing in common amongst all these rail preservationist videos is that they feature people who actually *contribute* to society and civilisation instead of people who are undermining it. Historic preservation is a most noble and worthy endeavour. Much appreciation!

    • @chrispomphrett4283
      @chrispomphrett4283 10 місяців тому +2

      Hear, hear. I work in slightly smaller motorcycle restorations. Making something new or bringing something back to life is such a positive thing. Life's full of destroyers and parasites ruining things. Always great to see stuff like this going on.

    • @lizlawrence4553
      @lizlawrence4553 8 місяців тому

      Our preservation of our heritage is also a valuable part of the tourism sector. Bringing in much needed revenue to our economy.

  • @boblovell5789
    @boblovell5789 11 місяців тому +50

    The impossible has been achieved numerous times in loco restorations. I know nothing about this group but I identify 100% with their aspirations. They will fix it for sure.

    • @PolishThatHandle346
      @PolishThatHandle346 11 місяців тому +2

      It has but I don't think you are fully understanding the gravity of the modern day situation. I genuinely just don't see the viability of such a restoration. I genuinely wish them all thr very best but it's largely unsuited to most heritage lines and is coal heavy so where will it see use?

    • @PolishThatHandle346
      @PolishThatHandle346 11 місяців тому +1

      @richardharrold9736 but what are the material costs of a 4MT versus a Merchant Navy? More loco implies more metal which comes at a higher cost. Weight of a Merchant Navy and associated impact on infrastructure? Water intake?

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@richardharrold9736 They have had 30 years or more to start restoring this. It's just a bunch of old codgers playing trains shunting a pile of scrap from one siding to another over decades!
      I would say cut their losses and hand it over to a group who is competent to do the job.
      Or spend a weekend cutting what remains and weigh in the scrap. Nobody is going to miss it. There are 30 other Bullied Pacifics preserved, we don't need more espec locos this size on heritage lines.

  • @Gasher82nd
    @Gasher82nd 10 місяців тому +5

    Ever since as a lad i used to go watch these trains moving all the good around the black country, traveling on the old steam engins was great feeling. Having owned quite a few Hornby 4-6-2 class and others it has always been a joy for me. I used to go every weekend along the seven valley railway until moved up north. I have the greatest respect for the people who put in all those hours restoring these beauties back to there original condition. Love the youtube videos people are making now to keep us updated.

  • @terrygee1628
    @terrygee1628 11 місяців тому +23

    As a Southern fan I am glad to see the possibility of another Bullied being saved.
    If you think, you will not be alive to see its completion, I'm sure I will not be at the age of 70!
    Good luck to everyone involved in her restoration.

    • @paulthompson8613
      @paulthompson8613 11 місяців тому +1

      Hope you can post a comment when this project is finished . Looking forward to reading it

  • @Hercules4277
    @Hercules4277 11 місяців тому +24

    Nice to see some of these Locos being recovered from the Sidings. Not too long ago, 34058 "Sir Fredrick Pile" was pulled out of the sidings at the Mid Hants Railway.

  • @SpireUtd
    @SpireUtd 11 місяців тому +16

    To see that beautiful big Blue Star logo and anything to remind us of the once Great British Merchant fleets, ships built on Clyde and Tyne deserves remembrance. What better way to carry that memory and name than on another massive beast of steam locomotive! Brilliant guys.

  • @davidanderson1639
    @davidanderson1639 11 місяців тому +28

    For anyone wondering where the tender is.
    The locomotive was purchased (with the aid of a substantial bank loan) by the British Enginemen Steam Preservation Society (BESPS) in 1982, without a tender. Subsequently (in 1992) a snowplough converted from a Schools Class locomotive tender was purchased as a base for the missing tender.
    From what I’ve read, BESPS is focusing on restoring 45293 before moving on to restore 35010. The locomotive will run with a Schools class tender chassis which had formerly been used as a snowplough and a redundant tender tank from 34007.

    • @gaugeonesteam
      @gaugeonesteam 11 місяців тому

      I believe that most of the preserved Bulleids do not have their original tender.

    • @davidanderson1639
      @davidanderson1639 10 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@richardharrold9736as far as I’m aware, they do plan to return it to steam.
      One major aspect of the overhaul/ restoration is the construction of an entire new right hand cylinder; this actually broke during service & is what sealed its fate for being sent to Woodham’s Scrap Yard (where it spent time in front of Ellerman Lines).

  • @roberthocking9138
    @roberthocking9138 11 місяців тому +7

    I wish the gents all the best, it’s a great thing they are doing

  • @brianwillson9567
    @brianwillson9567 11 місяців тому +6

    A merchant is a big job. But, more power to your elbow. Wish you every success, its impossible to have too many packets.

  • @deansmith6924
    @deansmith6924 11 місяців тому +2

    I remember this locomotive being delivered to the Docks in Canning Town when the group where still at the then new north woolwich museum. Nearly 40 years ago 😳 how time flies, good to see it again

  • @1chish
    @1chish 11 місяців тому +4

    Forgive someone who was raised on the GWR and did some time at Swindon works in the '60s commenting on a Southern Region loco but I always thought the merchant Class was very handsome and well proportioned especially in smooth sided form (damn BR!). The driving wheels are a work of art all on their own.
    Best of luck with the restoration but if she rolls as well as she did the basics are not far off.

    • @foxstrangler
      @foxstrangler 2 місяці тому

      Last time I was at CVR (not yesterday), I was told the bottom end was fully rebuilt just before she was withdrawn, and they have all the motion. It's sad to see her sit and rust. I've been waiting a long time to see some action, but I suspect I will not be around to see her steam again. Perhaps better she was sold to a group who can get to work straight away.

  • @AussiePom
    @AussiePom 11 місяців тому +8

    So it's being moved from one storage location to another. In a Railscene video from the 1980's they said "in a few years time it will emulate it's sister MN Clan Line". I think they were being rather too optimistic as it doesn't look any different to what it did when it came out of Barry except it now has a good growth of moss over it.

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +1

      I never said it was leaving the site? I don’t think it will be finished sadly.

  • @grassamupson
    @grassamupson 10 місяців тому

    Wow , I wasn't expecting this to pop up on my suggested viewing on UA-cam 👍. I have fond memories of the BESPS group led by Barry Engwell back in the 80's when the loco was stored in K shed in the royal docks in Newham and the nameplate had pride of place on the wall of North Woolwich Old Station Museum.

  • @waspiusmaximus2485
    @waspiusmaximus2485 10 місяців тому

    I worked for allelys heavy haulage and have been to pretty much every preserved site in the UK. I have seen some outstanding restorations from things in worse conditions than this. I have every faith this restoration will not fail to impress.🐝

  • @wilkybarkid
    @wilkybarkid 11 місяців тому +3

    I've waited over 30 years to see any progress, I'd hope I get to see her steam one day.

  • @levelcrossing150
    @levelcrossing150 11 місяців тому +5

    Great to see some progress with this loco.

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +3

      Probably the only thing that will happen with it over the next 20 years!

  • @sheep21
    @sheep21 11 місяців тому +5

    that cylinder is gnarly!

    • @dianeunderhill8506
      @dianeunderhill8506 10 місяців тому

      So would you be sitting in a sliding for many years!

    • @davidanderson1639
      @davidanderson1639 10 місяців тому

      The right hand cylinder actually broke during its operational life & was what sealed its fate for being sent to Woodham’s.
      The construction of a new cylinder is one of the major hurdles to be overcome once the restoration starts.

  • @sumedhadematanpitiarachchi4411
    @sumedhadematanpitiarachchi4411 10 місяців тому

    thanks for preserving them for for next genaration

  • @kristinajendesen7111
    @kristinajendesen7111 11 місяців тому

    Used to be at my old depot Salisbury (albeit the steam depot). Later based at Nine Elms and Exmouth Junction too, my old workmates would have driven her or fired her. I remember the snow plough tenders at Eastleigh too back in the 80s, one of which was bought to use as a base for a new tender.

  • @ThePCPitStopInc
    @ThePCPitStopInc 11 місяців тому +4

    so sad to see just reminds me of a Thomas story at the scrap yard would love to hear about this engine in a video if possible to help it gain attention. Happy New Year to You @Wardle Restorations and the rest of the volunteers looking forward to seeing what you got planned for 2024 for your own projects and thank you for preserving these for us to learn about and see Cheers to you guys

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +1

      Happy new year to you too mate, all the best 👍

  • @GWRailFan
    @GWRailFan 11 місяців тому +1

    great efforts from everyone on site to get this Shunter around the site, im not a kettle fan but to see that thing work again would be a great sight

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +1

      Agreed but I wouldn’t get your hopes up 🤣

    • @GWRailFan
      @GWRailFan 11 місяців тому +1

      @WardleRestorations 😂😂 higher chance of hornby dropping the price of locos by the sound of that then 😂

    • @Geoff-n1d
      @Geoff-n1d 11 місяців тому

      It won’t be running I your lifetime

  • @BigPinkJohn
    @BigPinkJohn 10 місяців тому

    Just found this channel. Great to see some old faces again on here, not seen Paul Lemon in a long time. I did have a share in a class 31 at the railway but no idea what happened to it and the Colne Valley Diesel group.

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  10 місяців тому +1

      Paul says come along and say hello sometime!

    • @BigPinkJohn
      @BigPinkJohn 10 місяців тому

      Yes I Must, the railway looks to have changed a lot since I was volunteering there in the early 90's@@WardleRestorations

  • @mels1811
    @mels1811 9 місяців тому

    Wonderful video

  • @geoffreyking4515
    @geoffreyking4515 11 місяців тому +3

    If the people can restore the duke anything is possible

  • @Trainboy17
    @Trainboy17 11 місяців тому

    I Do Hope To See The Rest Of The Merchant Navy Classes To Be Restored. Like Shaw Savill And Holland America Line.

  • @nigelericogden3200
    @nigelericogden3200 11 місяців тому

    Best of luck to you all and a happy new year 🙏

  • @owenslanejunction7544
    @owenslanejunction7544 11 місяців тому +3

    Great video

  • @steve1315
    @steve1315 11 місяців тому

    An interesting video sir ,one hopes that A ,y'all still be alive to see 👀it move again and B ,it doesn't take to long to fix 👍👍🍸🍸.

  • @glynluff2595
    @glynluff2595 11 місяців тому +1

    So it is a modified version? Sag in Rail line at one point as wheel not moving for short distance. Actually I think we should scrap HS2 and run steam on that line. The whole of Europe and America would queue to ride between London and Birmingham! The line would make a profit!!!

  • @Fedora5957
    @Fedora5957 10 місяців тому +1

    Well, where did it go and what are they going to do with that elegant old lady?

  • @loganbloom6191
    @loganbloom6191 11 місяців тому +2

    It looks like Gordon they could restore the blue star to look like him and it would still work

  • @H.Kirsch
    @H.Kirsch 10 місяців тому

    the right Cyliderblock is a Goner

  • @andrewbennett7756
    @andrewbennett7756 11 місяців тому

    Nice to another grand steam trine getting restored for everyone to see

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому

      It’s behind a black 5 in the queue to have work done…

  • @svrdriver
    @svrdriver 11 місяців тому +4

    interesting to see the damage caused when the cylinder cover was blown off at Woking i think

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +1

      Yeh, a fair bit of damage!

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 11 місяців тому

      @@WardleRestorations recast orsleeve and machine out ?

    • @robertclare6137
      @robertclare6137 11 місяців тому +1

      The damage occurred between Byfleet and New Haw and Weybridge when she was travelling light engine to Nine Elms from Guildford 70C after having a boiler wash out.

    • @robertclare6137
      @robertclare6137 11 місяців тому

      @richardharrold9736 They were allowed as far as Guildford mate for the Depot

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 11 місяців тому

      @@robertclare6137 drain cock not cleared out ?

  • @fenderac3049
    @fenderac3049 11 місяців тому +1

    I can't see that being restored. The only way I can see that ever getting restored is the BESPS to approach SLL and join forces with them, at least you stand a fighting chance of seeing in steam at sometime in the future!

  • @garethw8884
    @garethw8884 11 місяців тому +2

    I hope it can be restored and once again move under it's own power

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +3

      Sadly I just don't think the demand to see anymore of these locos in preservation is there anymore but I could be wrong! Hope you're doing well though mate, great to hear from you!

    • @garethw8884
      @garethw8884 11 місяців тому

      @WardleRestorations hope you're doing well too, fella. That is sad to hear. It would be lovely to see it back up and running. Out of curiosity, where is the tender to go with it?

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +1

      I’m guessing the tender didn’t make it as that have an alternative for it instead, shame really!

    • @garethw8884
      @garethw8884 11 місяців тому

      @WardleRestorations yes that is a shame fella. Wishbi had the cash to restore it

    • @andrewcowling5804
      @andrewcowling5804 11 місяців тому +1

      @@garethw8884it was bought without a tender. If you scroll up you will see a fuller explanation

  • @lordluffington2351
    @lordluffington2351 11 місяців тому

    Let hope she will get on the mainline

  • @headsup2433
    @headsup2433 11 місяців тому +1

    I see she has still got her broken cylinder, I used to work on her in K shed the late 80`s. Has she still got most of her parts.

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому

      Yeh most of her parts are still there / in storage!

  • @winco68
    @winco68 11 місяців тому +1

    Such a shame it’s a never never scenario with this loco.
    It would be nice if MNLPS could take this loco on as a stablemate for Clan Line ensuring that they always have a loco in traffic and retain revenue from the premium dining trains.
    That said its restoration would incur phenomenal cost rendering it economically unviable.

  • @Shark30006
    @Shark30006 9 місяців тому

    When will 35010 Blue Star be restored to working order?

  • @daystatesniper01
    @daystatesniper01 11 місяців тому

    Good video ,at least a million to restore her ,the railway needs to give the two 03s a bit of tlc as they look shabby

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +3

      A million and the rest! Yeh the 03s could do with a repaint but we just don’t have the volunteers

    • @daystatesniper01
      @daystatesniper01 11 місяців тому

      Thank you for the reply ,yes even the major railways are struggling with volounteers , nearly swapped my class 47 nameplate from one of the original western region ones for a tatty 03 until i found out the engine was kaput .@@WardleRestorations

    • @gs425
      @gs425 11 місяців тому

      ​@WardleRestorations we have the same problem here in swanage sadly

  • @logotrikes
    @logotrikes 11 місяців тому

    Wonderful sight to see, it's just a shame they were left to rot for so long...

  • @jameshardy4354
    @jameshardy4354 11 місяців тому

    Blue stars owners also have 2 black 5s

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому

      Incorrect, they own 1. 45163 is owned by a separate group!

  • @DunnyRail
    @DunnyRail 11 місяців тому

    Just stop and have a look at 13.06 to see even in this state what a magnificent machine it still is. But what is not really needed is another working MN, a case of history that so many of a relatively small class of locomotives ended up at Barry and thus preservation. In this day and age if a Bullied must be made fit to run, then it perhaps it ought to be another WC or BofB. Sorry just my view.

  • @jackchatfield5464
    @jackchatfield5464 11 місяців тому

    Hopefully Blue Star is going to be restored in the coming future,

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому

      With a million pounds put into it maybe!

    • @jackchatfield5464
      @jackchatfield5464 5 місяців тому

      It will get restored hopefully one day, I just need to wait it's turning the queue​@@WardleRestorations

  • @kineticrail
    @kineticrail 11 місяців тому

    It seems like the guys up at Hedingham are doing alot of moving around is there a reorganisation taking place. Taking stock of what is there etc

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +1

      Having a well needed sort out and clean up

    • @kineticrail
      @kineticrail 11 місяців тому

      @@WardleRestorations I can imagine there's alot of shunting they have a lot of rolling stock on site from what I see

  • @michaelnaisbitt7926
    @michaelnaisbitt7926 10 місяців тому

    This will take at least 15 years to get anywhere near operational condition Providing of course sufficient funds are raised Its doubtful that any of the restoration crew alive in 2024 will be with us at completion

  • @Itsonlymeee1
    @Itsonlymeee1 11 місяців тому

    Could the damaged cylinder be swapped with Elleman lines good cylinder in the NRM...

  • @wilsonlaidlaw
    @wilsonlaidlaw 11 місяців тому

    Am I correct in thinking from the remaining outboard brackets, that Blue Star was modified to external Walschaerts valve gear from the original Bulleid valve gear?

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому

      I have no idea mate sorry

    • @12crepello
      @12crepello 10 місяців тому

      Yes it was. All of the MN's were rebuilt in this way in the late 50's.

  • @kellyashfordtrains2642
    @kellyashfordtrains2642 11 місяців тому +2

    We hope you will be. However, the cost of restoring a steamy that big is becoming formidably expensive. Plus, she needs a lot more coal in order to run, than the saddle tank engine does. Just one ton of coal now costs £400. In any case, although I don't love Bullied Pacifics, I do hope the volunteers will get her steaming to run on the railway, which might need to be extended first.

    • @MrVinnyh
      @MrVinnyh 11 місяців тому +2

      We had a BR standard 5 (Mid Hants) work on the Colne many years ago, as a stand in for Thomas!

    • @levelcrossing150
      @levelcrossing150 11 місяців тому +3

      We all want to see the big engines though and when finished it can be hired out to raise funds. Also, like gas we have plenty of cheap coal available and it's right under our feet!

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому

      It won’t be finished unless someone wins the lottery sadly!

  • @thomasmcilroy510
    @thomasmcilroy510 5 місяців тому

    Will the blue star Locomotive 35010 be overholded and restourd

  • @fly_with_jack4472
    @fly_with_jack4472 11 місяців тому

    Nice

  • @simonmcowan6874
    @simonmcowan6874 11 місяців тому

    Will coal be available when that engine is eventually finished

  • @bernardothetankengine7218
    @bernardothetankengine7218 11 місяців тому

    how is this locomotive?

  • @oliverhood1732
    @oliverhood1732 11 місяців тому

    How long was Blue Star left to rust for?

  • @jameshardy4354
    @jameshardy4354 11 місяців тому

    I bet you wish you could add this to your collection a merchant navey

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому

      Absolutely not! Too much money and time. Never in a million years!

  • @turbulanceism
    @turbulanceism 11 місяців тому

    If a restoration is in affect! Convert to use propane instead of coal please!

    • @robertwhite361
      @robertwhite361 11 місяців тому

      Why?

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +1

      What on earth

    • @turbulanceism
      @turbulanceism 11 місяців тому

      @WardleRestorations here me out, propane is easier and cheaper! It can burn hotter thus needing less fuel, it also gives you a real steam engine just fueled differently

  • @PolishThatHandle346
    @PolishThatHandle346 11 місяців тому

    I genuinely wish you all the very best with this and mean this in no mean way but has anyone considered the viability of restoring this locomotive? From a practicality perspective it is really coal heavy in an increasingly coal unfriendly world and not suited to branch lines ruling it out of most heritage lines. Just making the point that there are plenty of mid sized engines scattered across the country in a similar condition that may perhaps not carry a flashy nameplate but may be far more useful and versatile for modern steam operation in the 2020s and beyond.

    • @dianeunderhill8506
      @dianeunderhill8506 10 місяців тому

      I am sure that everyone has considered the viability. Yes it will take time and money but will be worth it The amount of coal used is negligible on heritage railways and they are always looking to convert to environmentally friendly fuel. As for running on branch lines, I visit Glos Warks Railway in the Cotswolds.They have not long finished a restoration of Peninsula and Oriental. a magnificent locomotive and runs well from Broadway to Cheltenham Racecourse! Always worth bringing these wonderful machines back to life!

  • @highpath4776
    @highpath4776 11 місяців тому

    apart from the clean and paint, are the wheels going to be tested for cracks ? ( a problem with this design?)

  • @nigelkthomas9501
    @nigelkthomas9501 11 місяців тому

    How long is this going to take? Ready by 2028?

  • @Thebigfour1923
    @Thebigfour1923 11 місяців тому

    I thought she was owned by lsl and at crewe?

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому

      This has never been to Crewe

    • @mattlander9119
      @mattlander9119 11 місяців тому

      They have 35027 and at least one other out of service bulleid. Plus Braunton which his running.

  • @amazoniaamazonia7225
    @amazoniaamazonia7225 11 місяців тому +2

    There’s never a shortage of arm chair experts, the problem is a lack of donors to put their money where there mouth is.

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +2

      Completly agree, many want it restored but many won’t put money towards it, well not enough to get anything done!

  • @sapphirejunction8993
    @sapphirejunction8993 11 місяців тому

    That Steam loco is in a right state, I presume it will never run again and just rot away in a different part of the site???

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +1

      It doesn't belong to the CVR. It is up to the owners to get started on it once their other project is done however I don't think that will be in my lifetime, you'd need a lottery win to get it done...

    • @sapphirejunction8993
      @sapphirejunction8993 11 місяців тому

      @@WardleRestorations Lol you're pretty young and yeah looks that way, even the cab has been gutted to nothing and appears to be missing a few external components as well.

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +1

      @@sapphirejunction8993 To be fair to them they do have 90% of the parts for it. Most of the motion etc was removed by them when it arrived to stop it from deteriorating any worse. But time and money isn't on their side!

    • @sapphirejunction8993
      @sapphirejunction8993 11 місяців тому +1

      @@WardleRestorations No worries, thanks for the info.

    • @TheHoveHeretic
      @TheHoveHeretic 11 місяців тому +4

      Someone evidently never saw the state of 5699, 6023 or 71000 ex-Barry. Blue Star's sister, 21C11 GSN is in need of a new crank axle .... no small job. The key thing with any large loco is the boiler and here, consider that things like tube plate replacement is almost routine these days. Like Terriers, having enough Bulleids to batch build spares is a real 'plus'. I've no doubt 35010 will steam again? I remember these beasties working out of Waterloo, so my question is, will I still be alive when it does? Bob only knows!
      Come to think of it, when I first saw FR No.4 Palmerston on the cover of a magazine on it's return to the land of the living, I honestly thought some photographic types had shelled out to temporarily renumber No.2 Prince for a charter, such was the state of the pile of scrap I saw rotting in the sidings in the early 1970s
      I've always liked the notion of a Bulleid in chromatic blue, with double arrow logo on the tender ....... I'll just get my coat.

  • @hamshackleton
    @hamshackleton 11 місяців тому

    She's in a pretty sorry state. Not a ten minute fix!

  • @raymondleggs5508
    @raymondleggs5508 11 місяців тому

    sad looking locomotive.

  • @IS-L
    @IS-L 11 місяців тому +1

    Is it necessary to put audio warnings or is that for the frightened woke brigade.

    • @WardleRestorations
      @WardleRestorations  11 місяців тому +2

      It is because people moan and I can’t be assed with people moaning. But even when I do, more people moan, can’t win!

    • @namarien
      @namarien 10 місяців тому

      What's "woke" about appreciation for a noise warning. Some may be wearing headphones etc.

  • @michaelsandford1015
    @michaelsandford1015 11 місяців тому

    They will never rester that locomotive