Without Swordfighter, Can I Avoid Echo Repeats in Zelda EoW?

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @geoffritter2254
    @geoffritter2254 17 днів тому +39

    You can damage Ganon with his own spear when he tosses it.

    • @SwitchSummit
      @SwitchSummit  17 днів тому +14

      Ohhhh didn't know that!

    • @Pluki1
      @Pluki1 16 днів тому +1

      @@SwitchSummitjust bind it into him

    • @alexstewart9592
      @alexstewart9592 14 днів тому +1

      ​@@SwitchSummit You can also hurt him with his ball attack without Swordfighter or any echoes, as it has homing, and if you go in a giant circle to lead it back to Ganon it just hits him - and he won't even try to hit it back.

    • @SwitchSummit
      @SwitchSummit  12 днів тому

      Wow, I could have made that battle a lot easier then! Sounds like only the first phase required an echo.

  • @BEAThatesyou
    @BEAThatesyou 17 днів тому +13

    You're rapidly becoming one of my favorite challenge runners

  • @alexbaughman9404
    @alexbaughman9404 16 днів тому +5

    I can't believe this channel has so few subscribers! I love all the ways you're pushing echoes of wisdom to its limits even without glitches

  • @biemdubayu
    @biemdubayu 17 днів тому +14

    I'd love to see a mod that makes you need to collect a shimmer for every echo used (like, you'd have to stock up if you wanted to summon a barrage of crows) or something like that. The automatons get so little use, so really anything that changes stuff to make the automatons more prevalent would be fun to see.
    I did a playthrough where I couldn't use monster echoes for combat, only object echoes, swordfighter form, and automatons (only exception was using Freezard for the two ice-required bosses since snowballs didn't seem to work, and using monsters for non-combat) and still never got a good chance to use the automatons.

    • @biemdubayu
      @biemdubayu 15 днів тому

      I'm thinking of doing a run where I do the same thing but with minimal swordfighter mode usage (since most of the bosses besides the two ice ones can just be slapped with the sword for an easy win) or a run where I do the opposite, minimal object uses, attempting to use only monster echoes, maybe still including the automatons since I still wanna see if I can do anything with them.

  • @Refreshment01
    @Refreshment01 12 днів тому

    This little game did deliver. It has some of the most out of the box runs of any top down zelda game. Fascinating & thank you for sharing this with us.

  • @daisys274
    @daisys274 15 днів тому +2

    "And convince it to commit suicide" Was probably the best part of the video

  • @joefisher3950
    @joefisher3950 17 днів тому +3

    Very cool idea!!
    Ice Octo was 100% the champ of the run. Very cool strat there.

  • @Immrfennel
    @Immrfennel 16 днів тому +1

    I am always surprised how many interesting challenges you find in this game, I thought minimum echoes was the only one.

  • @raxon912
    @raxon912 16 днів тому

    Very impressive, it's so cool how this game has so many options to win

  • @atomicspacemonky
    @atomicspacemonky 17 днів тому +3

    That movement tech at 16:08 was crazy lol

  • @ironpro1511
    @ironpro1511 17 днів тому +3

    11:18 You actually dont need swordfighter mode for this, you can summon a zirro using the summoning at a distance thing right at the spot where you need the bomb

    • @atomicspacemonky
      @atomicspacemonky 17 днів тому +1

      The clip afterwards he seemed to need swordfighter mode for though, so I don't think it made a difference in the total count unfortunately

    • @SwitchSummit
      @SwitchSummit  17 днів тому +1

      I had already summoned a Zirro and bombfish so chose a swordfighter exception instead of a dupe echo.

  • @RobinDaHood_
    @RobinDaHood_ 17 днів тому +5

    Holy shit the rate of which the EoW videos are released is insane! Is it worth it to buy echoes? It seems many people seem to be making EoW videos right now, and I'd like to watch then without getting spoiled, but I'm not sure if I'd be very interested in the gameplay.
    Is it like Links Awakening+Totk, are the dungeons any good? I'm not expecting a book-lenght answer but I'd like to know if iyo it was worth buying.
    I hope the algorithm likes the comment lol

    • @SporeMystify
      @SporeMystify 17 днів тому +2

      It's worth buying, it's fun with a lot of room for creative problem solving

    • @ayo9290
      @ayo9290 17 днів тому

      I personally don't have it because I don't have a Switch with me at college, but I think it would be worthwhile.
      Also, you don't have to worry about the algorithm hiding your content because Switch Summit has way less viewers / subscribers than he should.

    • @SwitchSummit
      @SwitchSummit  17 днів тому +4

      I think it's worth buying. The openness and sandboxiness does a ton for the replay value.
      If you want a more detailed review from me, I've already launched a 12 Flaws video, and I'll have a 12 Strengths video launching next week.

    • @VulpineFox7
      @VulpineFox7 16 днів тому +1

      Echoes of wisdom is the best zelda game, it has the best parts of both classic and modern zelda, has incredible open-ended puzzles and the best soundtrack in the whole series, you have GOT to play it, it's really good!

  • @loliamarobot6999
    @loliamarobot6999 17 днів тому

    Another banger video - keep up the good work :)

  • @Toutaras
    @Toutaras 7 днів тому

    You really are pushing the game to it's litmis. I'm not sure there are any other challenges you can do that will be more challenging than this one 😂

  • @nodrance
    @nodrance 16 днів тому

    Idea: minimum bind/reverse bind uses
    I feel like the only required use is the big rock (and even then you might be able to skip it) and then you can use -tulas for skipping reverse bind and being clever to avoid bind

    • @polwigle
      @polwigle 14 днів тому +1

      Fun fact! You can even beat the final boss without using bind other than for the very final phase! It just takes some patience to wait for Link and your monster echoes to deal enough chip damage. (I somehow managed to go the whole game without realizing I could bind enemies I didn't summon...)

  • @ayo9290
    @ayo9290 17 днів тому

    Another good challenge run :)

  • @acemais
    @acemais 17 днів тому

    Could u do links awakening challenge run please :)

  • @sasamichan
    @sasamichan 17 днів тому

    Next challenge, spider sequence break, get stronger echoes and use those to save on octorocks and urchins. Not shore how this works Youb used urchins, rock, peahat, more then once.
    ice, fire and electric enemies are good to use early on.
    For ensample you can take Ganon on wit just moa and his own weapon

    • @SwitchSummit
      @SwitchSummit  17 днів тому +1

      I only summoned each of those echoes once. The other times I used them, I took one that was already in the environment.

  • @V1G4M1
    @V1G4M1 17 днів тому +1

    2:42 & 4:58 isn‘t that a dupe use?

    • @ediblenebulas1164
      @ediblenebulas1164 17 днів тому +1

      The second time is not an echo, it’s moving the urchin that’s already in the room (hence doesn’t count as a double summon).
      Well spotted though!

    • @V1G4M1
      @V1G4M1 17 днів тому +1

      Oooooh! That makes sense! Yeah I just got that this probably was the case when I saw him use the bomb spewing enemy to get up to hebra mountain around 16:05 cuz he used that one earlier in the fire dungeon. In my defence, it‘s almost 2 am here rn tho xD😅

    • @ediblenebulas1164
      @ediblenebulas1164 17 днів тому +1

      @ hahaha you’re all good bro I’m running on barely any sleep too 😂
      This channel is great right? Such interesting challenges

  • @Bowsie-75
    @Bowsie-75 17 днів тому

    First