It's kind of easy to see how Nef twisted his words. Parvo may have intended to create wealth to sate his desire, but he also knew he should use his wealth to enrich others, and by doing so enrich himself further. Nef instead chose to justify his grinding of the poor and debt ridden to feed his extravagance. Parvo is capitalism as originally intended. Nef is what capitalism becomes when left to fester out of control.
Parvos: capitalism at it's finest, a system of people working in tandem to profit from each other and support each other, a system where a man can do as he pleases and take what he thinks he deserves. Parvos is the ideal capitalist, encouraging charity and generosity as well as individualism and greed. Nef on the other hand is capitalism at it's worst, grinding the poor into dust, exploiting them to death, he is the opposite of all parvos wanted. He only cares about enriching himself, and not about enriching others along the way as well.
I like how half of what is he says is really good advise. It's hard to hate a guy who worked his way up from dirt farmer and went out of his way to make other people, wealthy too.
I think the message here is to be mindful of whom you follow and work for, and make sure that their interests align with the best interests of not only those that work for you but those that your work will impact and that dominanc should never be an end in itself nor should one exploit their people for god like power and only use it for your own kingdom. Godlike power should be used for the prosperity of all and if it isnt then one is unworthy of it and it can only bring destruction and ruin if used the wrong way for the wrong ends.
It would be cool if there was another faction of all that still follow the ideals of corpus and grineer toward the end of orokin rule, of freedom, equality and brotherhood
@@SylumSolosEverything Technically he never truly stole anything. All the orokin had was gained on the backs of the poor, starved, mistreated and exploited corpus people. They had never been truly given what they had earned. Parvos went and took a small fraction of what his people had earned, and used it to pull his people out of poverty forever. Essentially ripping them from the jaws of servitude to the orokin. And he did all of this for the collective, rather than for himself. He preached the idea of nurturing one's desire, because that is what led him to take action. The distinction to be made is that the orokin as a society allowed wealth to sit at the top of the chain and stagnate. Hoarding wealth simply for the sake of doing so. Whereas parvos used his wealth to build an empire for all corpus where everyone has the oppurtunity to feed their ambition. That's why parvos hates what has become of the corpus now. Because people like Nef Anyo are basically just the orokin. The Solaris are a direct comparison to the corpus slaves of parvos' time. And he fucking *hates* that.
I finally realize why Parvos antagonized the Orokin down the line. They were the exact thing he hated: people who got rich off the hard work of others. Consequently this is basically most of the Corpus now, which is probably why he's convinced the only thing left to do is restart it from the beginning.
Ngl if I was given an option to join Parvos's new board, I would 100%. He's crafty and cunning for certain and I wouldn't trust to be in the same system as him, but he is also someone who understands the value of work, effort, self reliance, and how giving others the means to enrich themselves, enriches oneself even more. He's untrustworthy, but I also think he is the single most honest person in all of Warframe.
Parvos is, straight up, one of if not the single most charismatic characters in fiction that I know of. You hear other characters saying "he's dangerous," "he's a genius," "he's charismatic." But you don't really understand it until you're less a minute into interacting with him and you realize, "This guy is the real deal. I'm giving serious thought into transcribing this fictional guy's tenets for use and application in real life. I was not freaking prepared."
This is incredible, Parvos is an amazing addition to warframe. He makes me want to work for him, god imagine how strong the Corpus would be if he regained control. The corpus would become a proper empire and an absolute threat to the galaxy at large. We already see what he can do with the sisters, now I want him to take the corpus to new heights.
Pavos hears whispers, Sleeping In The Cold Below has a line "There's a man on high with the devil in his eye", the Corpus worship the Void. Is old Granum being manipulated by our friend in the Wall?
"There's a man on high With the Devil in his eye And a golden hand, I'm told It can hurt you, it can hold you He can kick you or console you When you're sleeping in the cold below" Seems like that interpretation is canon lol.
So a slaver? Yes let me beat some humility into you, KNOW YOUR PLACE SLAVE! I AM THE MASTER! Then the revolts happen, oh looks like the crown fell on the floor with his decapitated head. Worthless now.
Im kinda concerned whether or not those “whispers” is a metaphor for his ambition or desire Or something was genuinely talking to him The ladder which is concerning
On the corpus ships in the big room with the huge fountain/giant statue there is a coin slot at the bottom of the statue. That unlocks the logs that you can then view in the codex console.
It's kind of easy to see how Nef twisted his words. Parvo may have intended to create wealth to sate his desire, but he also knew he should use his wealth to enrich others, and by doing so enrich himself further. Nef instead chose to justify his grinding of the poor and debt ridden to feed his extravagance.
Parvo is capitalism as originally intended. Nef is what capitalism becomes when left to fester out of control.
Parvos: capitalism at it's finest, a system of people working in tandem to profit from each other and support each other, a system where a man can do as he pleases and take what he thinks he deserves. Parvos is the ideal capitalist, encouraging charity and generosity as well as individualism and greed.
Nef on the other hand is capitalism at it's worst, grinding the poor into dust, exploiting them to death, he is the opposite of all parvos wanted. He only cares about enriching himself, and not about enriching others along the way as well.
I thought capitalism murders women and eat baby children
Parvo sounds a lot like Andrew Ryan from Bioshock.
Nef is the Corpus as we know it. Parvos is the Perrin Sequence.
And THAT my friends, was how America was born.
I like how half of what is he says is really good advise. It's hard to hate a guy who worked his way up from dirt farmer and went out of his way to make other people, wealthy too.
I think the message here is to be mindful of whom you follow and work for, and make sure that their interests align with the best interests of not only those that work for you but those that your work will impact and that dominanc should never be an end in itself nor should one exploit their people for god like power and only use it for your own kingdom. Godlike power should be used for the prosperity of all and if it isnt then one is unworthy of it and it can only bring destruction and ruin if used the wrong way for the wrong ends.
He worked his way up first by stealing and then by profiting off of others' hopes and dreams.
It would be cool if there was another faction of all that still follow the ideals of corpus and grineer toward the end of orokin rule, of freedom, equality and brotherhood
@@SylumSolosEverything Technically he never truly stole anything. All the orokin had was gained on the backs of the poor, starved, mistreated and exploited corpus people. They had never been truly given what they had earned.
Parvos went and took a small fraction of what his people had earned, and used it to pull his people out of poverty forever. Essentially ripping them from the jaws of servitude to the orokin. And he did all of this for the collective, rather than for himself.
He preached the idea of nurturing one's desire, because that is what led him to take action.
The distinction to be made is that the orokin as a society allowed wealth to sit at the top of the chain and stagnate. Hoarding wealth simply for the sake of doing so. Whereas parvos used his wealth to build an empire for all corpus where everyone has the oppurtunity to feed their ambition. That's why parvos hates what has become of the corpus now. Because people like Nef Anyo are basically just the orokin. The Solaris are a direct comparison to the corpus slaves of parvos' time. And he fucking *hates* that.
He listened to the voice. He would have never found even a fraction of the strength he was GIFTED if not for the voice.
I finally realize why Parvos antagonized the Orokin down the line.
They were the exact thing he hated: people who got rich off the hard work of others. Consequently this is basically most of the Corpus now, which is probably why he's convinced the only thing left to do is restart it from the beginning.
Ngl if I was given an option to join Parvos's new board, I would 100%. He's crafty and cunning for certain and I wouldn't trust to be in the same system as him, but he is also someone who understands the value of work, effort, self reliance, and how giving others the means to enrich themselves, enriches oneself even more. He's untrustworthy, but I also think he is the single most honest person in all of Warframe.
@@RegalChalice He already has he just hasn't finished his restructuring
down the line?MF antagonized them from the start,it just got more hostile down the line
Ironic parvos became the very thing he hated. I have no pity for him, he is no better than the orokin.
Parvos is, straight up, one of if not the single most charismatic characters in fiction that I know of. You hear other characters saying "he's dangerous," "he's a genius," "he's charismatic." But you don't really understand it until you're less a minute into interacting with him and you realize, "This guy is the real deal. I'm giving serious thought into transcribing this fictional guy's tenets for use and application in real life. I was not freaking prepared."
I love how this father of a corporate empire cultivated his followers out of principled ambition. Parvos is a welcome addition to warframe.
Parvos is my favorite fictional cutthroat businessman
Parvos: Chad venture capitalist.
Nef: Virgin robber baron.
What's the difference?
@@derpherp1810 Worth.
The last entry was what the true Corpus should be.
This is incredible, Parvos is an amazing addition to warframe. He makes me want to work for him, god imagine how strong the Corpus would be if he regained control. The corpus would become a proper empire and an absolute threat to the galaxy at large. We already see what he can do with the sisters, now I want him to take the corpus to new heights.
Pavos hears whispers, Sleeping In The Cold Below has a line "There's a man on high with the devil in his eye", the Corpus worship the Void. Is old Granum being manipulated by our friend in the Wall?
The full thing is "There's a man on high with the devil in his eye and a golden hand im told" its talking about parvos granum
@@impulsewraith3419 I think he's implying that the devil in Parvos eye is Wally
Maybe there is other void entities
As of Dante unbound: yes, yes he is
I think he's just organically insane
Love him or hate him, he's spitting straight facts.
Parvos is a type of guy who would beat you up and made you rock bottom but made you into a humble if not, better person with his life lessons
"There's a man on high
With the Devil in his eye
And a golden hand, I'm told
It can hurt you, it can hold you
He can kick you or console you
When you're sleeping in the cold below"
Seems like that interpretation is canon lol.
So a slaver?
Yes let me beat some humility into you, KNOW YOUR PLACE SLAVE! I AM THE MASTER! Then the revolts happen, oh looks like the crown fell on the floor with his decapitated head. Worthless now.
Parvos Granum is a potential ally on the upcoming quests in the future.
"I did it myyyyyyyyy wayyyyyyy." ~Parvos Granum - an inside joke only he and I would get.
I get it. :)
@@palkoescobar5997 Haha you might not unless you know the voice actor personally
@@GeeseFX Wait, it wasn't a DBZA reference?
@@palkoescobar5997 nop. The guy who did the voice of Parvos is a good buddy of mine lol. We sing karaoke and that's a song he likes to sing.
@@GeeseFX That's sweet. 😊
"Shun sentimentality, it is a weakness that binds the idle man".
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Say no more!
I am getting Andrew Ryan vibes from him.
Andrew Ryan but his plan does work
"A man chooses, the slave obeys"
"Fear not poverty, poverty is bitter soil which sweet desire *blossoms"*
Andrew Ryan but awesome
great story before go to bed for the corpus
I really want DE to make an end game where we can chose to side with him.
Parvos granum, the true sigmillionare grinder
Huh, neat, his name translates to small grains
Its hilarious that in giving back his brother is just greiving over his dad's corpse and parvos is just like "oh yeah😎 giving back"
I love how he’s the polar opposite of Albercht
Do I hear Christmas decoration in background? :D
Yep, I love the lotus wreaths.
It's the xmas orbiter decors.
Yu can have them up year round lmao, as I have them.
It goes down when the evergreen is green no longer
parvos may have good intentions, but well, im sure we all know the saying,
Made of such are sulphur roads
I believe in Parvos Supremacy
I can't help but think this is the real Parvos...but yet still I cant help wonder if the Parvos who founded the Sisters isn't really Parvos there.
old man who gives you a weapon of choice or a waifu
This is literally Joan of Ark and its amazing
How?
@@dandelyon1830 I don't remember XD
@@saracen_rue6345 lol
@@dandelyon1830 that khora prime farm has melted my brain
I like how he sounds younger here
Im kinda concerned whether or not those “whispers” is a metaphor for his ambition or desire
Or something was genuinely talking to him
The ladder which is concerning
According to Dante's leverian, his speeches were (at least partially) in void tongue
je yette pke yotkuy, je ate pke yotuy
Is this the Corpus language 🤔?
@@xxzmaster04xx29 "we serve the corpus, we are the corpus." So yes
@@resoluteendergodgamer9319 cool
nef is to parvos what laver ball is to walt disney
Who?
how do i see that?
On the corpus ships in the big room with the huge fountain/giant statue there is a coin slot at the bottom of the statue. That unlocks the logs that you can then view in the codex console.
Everyone in these comments who agrees with this guy remind me of people who identify with the Joker.
how?
Not much sells better than religion
still the best piece of lore ever written for warframe. New War was a turning point... quality went to dumpster.
parvos granum get islamic punishment very bad for him.
Damn I didn't knew that the Muslims have time vaults