Worst Performances By a Referee Redux
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- I did 2 videos on the most Oustanding Peformances , lets take a deep look into the Worst Peformances by a referee in boxing .
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Whats good Kings and queens I hope everyone is having a great week. We got a good weekend of fights coming up this weekend GGG Murata, the undercard to that and Garcia vs Tagoe. What are your picks for this weekend?
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murata upset cus I don’t wanna see ggg vs canelo 3, and Garcia by ko
Another excellent video 👍🏼.
Could you do a brake down of
Kambosos Vs Haney that’s coming up for undisputed thx.
"You notice the title says Redo"... no, the title of YOUR video says Redux... like "re-ducks". I really recommend some proofreading of your scripts. Sorry to be a douche, but your ability and content quality are too good to be let down by some basic grammar mistakes.
You should've put Jeremias Ponce vs Lewis ritson on this the ref was goddammit awful. Also the Anjacas vs jaime Conlan.
I got GGG winning via 2nd round KO
Teddy Atlas said it all in his first podcast episode. The refs,promoters,etc all sitting at the same table eating dinner.
Teddy Atlas also says a treasonous criminal like Donald Trump is a good man 😂 so why don't you Ponder Teddy Atlas a little longer.
@@matthew-jy5jp Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, and many others say he's a good man too. I would love for you to highlight how he's a "treasonous criminal" when he was the only peaceful president in the last 20 years. I'm not surprised anymore how willfully ignorant you people are. Is Trump an egotistical asshole at times? 100% - So was over 3/4 of the presidents before him, they just had more finesse for your simple mind.
@@matthew-jy5jp did he say the refs were bad people?
@@matthew-jy5jp ayy finally found one of those mythical 81 million.
@@matthew-jy5jp in my opinion Teddy Atlas is one of the greatest trainers is. What in the world does his political stance have to do with boxing?
HUGE shout out to the email ref. He is spot on! Big respect to that guy, he is 100% correct.
OfficeHancho, I'm so impressed by you, as usual. I remember commenting regarding the Cotto-Foreman ref on your original "Outstanding Performances by a Referee." I, very strongly, disagreed with your take on Mercante Jr's account of himself. There have been very few times that I've been so disgusted with a ref while watching a fight. I really admire your work and insight, and I agree with your takes 999 times out of 1000. Publicly owning up to being mistaken shows a lot more wisdom than does being correct 100% of the time. I struggle with it in my personal life, never mind admitting it on youtube. I'm really proud to be one of your fans, man.
It might be an unfair judgment, but I always question the credentials of any sports UA-cam channel due to them often being operated by fans instead of experts. When considering the complex nature of combat sports, it's especially difficult for a casual viewer to figure out if a content creator has the proper expertise to make an accurate analysis or if they're simply more knowledgeable than the viewer but not an actual scholar of the sport. I'm purely an MMA guy and it's especially apparent that due to the rapid rise in MMA's popularity, there's a lot of channels that appear to the casual fan to be ran by experts when they're really just complete shams looking to capitalize off of UA-cam's lack of established MMA breakdown channels
@@bwfextremeHancho is a videographer for many boxing fights, so he's got some level of insider status
What happened to Prichard Colon was a tragedy. Boils my blood seeing the aftermath of what happened because of a terrible ref and opponent.
The ref literally saw the hands connect with the back of Colon’s head. Even a novice ref would have DQ’d the offending opponent for clear display of dirtiness.
Even a non-boxing would have called bullshit on the ref not ending the fight.
Alternate Title: Fights the referees obviously fixed.
Another alternative title: Fights the referees bet on the losing fighter but tried to keep them in by pulling every dirty tricks in the book
That would be libel and they could sue.
@@alexkrycek3359 that is, if it is proven first. Tho, if it can be so obvious, there is either the bias or someone was heavily bribed. Heck, could be both
@@alexkrycek3359 Untrue. Libel requires knowledge of the statement being false. Maliciously. People are allowed to state opinions, cvck
That Ref definitely had bread on Foreman my goodness
The Reed-Ottke fight highlights look like TV skit making light of the corruption in boxing.
That Cotto Foreman fight.. WTH was that ref doing.. Jesus.. Wow
Seems like he might have had money on Foreman
Very painful to watch Cotto vs Foreman, nauseating.... 🤢
I remember Sven Ottke's reign of terror over the IBF Super Middleweight title. All he had to do was finish the fight standing and he was guaranteed to retain his title. If by chance he'd get ko'd the ref would rule it an accidental slip. A middling fighter wins a title and holds it for a decade enjoying some home cooking from local commissions. Sickening.
This was an awful performance from the ref, but to generalize this in the bad blooded fashion you did is just way off....i hate that whiny and unreasonable tone of allegations of being treated unfairly and unfairly by fans who think their boxers can come here and take the title with the american style of judging and counting from the champion in his home country and take it with them. If a European boxer wants to assert himself in the USA, he has to understand that things are judged differently in the USA, how much more value is placed on aggression here and that he has to change his style. EXACTLY vice versa. If a boxer runs after another all the time, hits 20 times more but still has fewer clear hits, he will not win anything here, European judges count points that depends on clear hits only. That has nothing To do with a shiat like "reign of terror" or some kind of nonsensical populist rubbish which is obviously based on complete misunderstanding of the European and especially German boxing school of the 90s... with a slight racist touch against Germans also. With the rating scandals that are common in the USA, one should be very quiet with criticism of Europe and this kind of disgusting insinuation and shut the fuh up. Deal with the German amateur school of the 80s and the resulting professional boxing style of the 90s, as well as the European value system. You Americans always think everything has to go your way and if you didn't you'd be cheated worse. What a load of crap.
@@dandelgado11 all that typing and you did fuck all to dispute the fact Sven Ottke got preferential treatment from commissions and referees.
@@dandelgado11 How dumb do you have to be to make this a “Europe vs US” issue when the most egregious example of the favouritism/bias shown to Ottke was at the expense of a Brit. Wtf are you talking about?
i am german and yes this was bad refere performance
@@Sqauredcircleboxing No doubt. But that doesnt legitimize to denounce a whole career in that way. Period.
The Nyambayar - Lukas fight made me angry to watch. Listening to the ref try to backup his reasoning for not scoring it a knockdown was one thing, but to be shown clear evidence that it was in fact a knockdown and still having him say "I don't see a knockdown" was just infuriating
I’m a simple person, I see Office Hancho, I watch and enjoy the content
You sir are no simple person, you’re a king!
A simple man with simple pleasures for simple things
Facts 💯
Of course Lawrence Cole is in the thumbnail lmaoo
I just saw him ref the Spence vs ugas fight the guy is trash don't know how he has a job still
The agapito Sanchez vs manny pacquiao referee was awful. And joe cortez breaking up clinches every nanosecond in the hatton vs mayweather fight was suspect too.
That first ref definitely had money on foreman
How about the Pacquiao vs Horn fight in Australia?
Pacquiao fought Horn, the ref, and the three judges
And worst of all he had the audacity to try and call out Floyd Mayweather after
i think it was the ref mostly. jeff horn was leading with his head, and the ref never took a point away.
Pacquiao obviously needed a knockout just to get a draw on that fight. no way Horn was winning that, you're generous enough to give him 3 rounds because he really lost literally almost 11 rounds of that fight.
Still crying about it. Get over it pacroid got smashed
your crying mother got smashed real hard
"Despite Norwood getting up at 18" lmaooo
Emanuel Steward is really missed the man's a legend
What's worse than the reffing in Loma vs Salido is I once saw someone actually defending Salido. They claimed "Loma wasn't prepared to deal with sneaky veteran tactics." Fucking what? Lmao.
It’s disgusting how haters at every turn try to make Loma look bad.
The funniest one I’ve heard was “he hasn’t fought anyone!” Lmfao. Wut?!
@@Animefightforum lol yeah it's funny how frequently the boxing goal posts move.
@19:01 I wish he showed how bad Pritchard Colon ended up. That's sad and dangerous how bad refs hurt the sport and especially fighters like Pritchard. 😞
Exactly, he just skipped through it, like what? Sometimes Hancho talks about the aftermath of the fight so I don't understand why he didn't do it here.
@OfficeHanchoBoxing why you didn’t mention the brain damage Pritchard sustained in the fight due to illegal blows??
I was surprise that wasn't brought up. Is sad the effect it had on Colon, seeing him to this day and knowing is from this event hurts. Yet he still fight to try to recover some motor functions back and so on.
YT Flagged me because of the blood on David Diaz when Pacquiao KO him which i had to make an appeal. In this video Did you notice in the Soto fight I not only didnt show all the leaking blood from Lorenzo nor showed his completely mangled nose? Because YT will flag that. The Colon fight was news in boxing that would spread throughout the whole world, i even stated "The events that would take place would shock the boxing world". Its common knowledge what happened and what he looks today. I explain for the most part information that I know the viewer do not know. The refs bad history in big fights and did he get barred from the sport after this fight. This video took a month to make because of work and the script with 3 others had to be rewritten entirely due to the file being lost in a Blue screen of death.
@@throneplays4033 look at the comment below
Dude I remember the joe cortez dq one on the soto-lorenzo fight my dad was sooo mad i can’t remember ever seeing him so frustrated over a fight before,
how bout how he handled Mayweather Ortiz
@@Bruins-vq5ey my dad didn’t really care about that fight haha
It’s amazing how Russell Mora still referring even though he’s still a bad referee. Don’t get me wrong his performances haven’t been atrocious as agbeko mares fight but he’s definitely had bad performances like the Franco-Moloney 2 and Berchlet- Valdez are good examples
What did you think was bad about Berchelt vs Valdez, I remember watching that live and didn’t think it was that bad, although it’s been a really long time
He should have been banned for life after the Agbeko /Mares fight, never was there such clear evidence of corruption.
Every time I see him reffing I think "oh no, not this guy again"
Also I thought he was bad in Fury vs Wilder 3 when he let Fury get away with getting Wilder in a headlock, holding his head down and throwing uppercuts. Any other ref wouldn’t let that fly but Mora didn’t even give it a thought.
OfficeHancho is a class act! Reading out that email was what a 'King' does. Bravo.
The robin reid ref makes me laugh it looks like he warns Reid for hitting Ottke too clean.
Reid is the only fighter I've ever seen get a point deduction for receiving a headbutt...
I remember that fight from back in the day, an absolute travesty
it was one of the reasons why boxers in germany are often disliked by germans. The issue is that this happened time and time again with fights being fixed or at least being very suspect of being like this. Record padding also is a common issue that we have here an example would be Michael Smolik an undefeated kickboxer 33-0 thats something really special but he was just fighting bums and this is why combat sports arent big in germany. really sucks
im British. you could do a whole episode on how poorly the refereeing in Britain has become. Amir Khan was protected even when it was dangerous for him to continue, referees would chuck him back in, in a desperate attempt to give him a chance! the boxing world is far to closely intertwined with promotors like Eddie Hearn and its clearly visible.
Warren was in this position more than Hearn, did you watch Warren’s cards in the 80 and 90? Did you see how Ricky Hatton had Mickey Vann ref almost 😅 one out of 2 of his fights in Manchester? And they allow him to wrestle, hold, maul his opponents. 😂
@@raycorey yes it was awful. i just used Hearn as a modern example. i have long given up hope of fair refereeing in the UK. i know it happens most places around the world and boxing has always had the corruption element to it. its just disappointing to see.
I remember one ref looked like he wanted to stop the Sergey Kovalev vs Nathan Beverly fight, but instead of waving it off he practically walked Beverly back to his corner to save him. All it did was just hurt Beverly more.
Who protected Khan in the UK when it was "Dangerous to continue?
No one looks Hearn's way when it comes to corruption in the game. You'd only do that if you were one of the crazies out there. Arum and Haymon is where you look for mass corruption when it comes to promoters/Managers.
In the US, promoters have been wining and dining refs and judges for decades to make sure they get their fighters over the line at all costs. That however is illegal in the UK.
That dude shouldn’t even be in Britain😂
Foreman was in so much pain during that first fight. And after the towel was thrown in I don't know how anyone could think that was outstanding lol
What the hell is going on, man? 300k subscribers and not even a 10% of that on visualizations? C'mon, y'all, step up and show some love for the high quality job of this channel. One of the best on boxing material out there.
17:27 on top of Khan being done over by the ref and judges, Peterson was on PEDs during this fight and this is actually where Khans defense was completely blown for every match after due to going twelve rounds with someone on PED's.
'Remember guys, I'm fair but I'm firm' - Joe Cortez
I'm so friggin' tired that when I saw "Cotto vs. Foreman," I was like, "how in the hell did Miguel Cotto fight George Foreman? That's suicide. Big George would kill him with that jackhammer jab alone." Then my logic kicked in and I was sad that it didn't actually happen. I've always wondered how long it would take a top-2 or 3 all-time hardest punching HW to literally kill a MW or something. Foreman vs. Hagler, Shavers vs. GGG or something. lol
I was thinking the same thing not only is the weight classes too fast apart but they're like 3 eras apart.
@@themessage267 prime George foreman was 215-225 pounds of solid muscle he would have literally killed a 168 pounder
I didn't realise Ortiz used his head that often. That's changed my opinion on the Floyd KO. Punk had it coming.
Now we can add Tony Weeks to the list after that horrible stoppage call last night.
That Butte fight pissed me off so much, never have I ever been disappointed in one of my favorite sports. Just sad when things like this and other bad referring and corrupt judges happen in one of the greatest sports
Love your channel bro. I’ve been subscribed for a very long time. That intro is really good, and what made me make sure I subscribed.
Thx , I shot it in May 2016 after Canelo Khan had wrapped up . Just left the Canelo's lockeroom and regrouped with the team upstairs as they were running a post fight show with Gennady Golovkin on Ring TV . While waiting for things to wrap up . I set up the tripod and there you go.
I wanted to do this again during Canelo GGG 2 as I caught word that HBO Boxing was gonna end and I wanted to shoot a new one in 4K. Too busy that evening and missed out on that . HBOs set up will forever be missed and as AI technology improves , I'll continue to upscale this intro to make it the best it possibly can be.
dude gets knocked down and you can see the ref get pissed like he just lost his bet. I'm pretty sure he should be in prison.
Glad I got patreon so I can see these early. Always love and appreciate your dazzling work. Awesome definition and mixing. Your work is always flawless. 👌 Also, that Spotify Playlist is GODTIER
They did robin soooooo fkin dirty in that fight, and otke received help from the ref throughout his career which and was likely the reason he never once left Germany
Amazing work. I was angry the whole episode 😂 so messed up how they did the boxers as if they aren’t risking their lives in this sport
Seriously, genuinely pissed off at how irresponsible these refs were through the entire video
Can’t believed you missed terry O’Connor his Refereeing is shocking and absolutely terrible!
There are many non-top level referees in professional boxing and amature boxing.
The referees that ALWAYS comes to mind that are some of the greatest of all times in my book are; Joe Cortez, Mills Lane, Frank Cappuccino, Arthur Mercante, Kenny Bayless, Mickey Vann, Steve Smoger, Tony Weeks and even if some disagree, I also find Richard Steele to be as well a very good referee.
As a referee, you always have a lot of important responsibility to uphold the rules, be constant alert for anything, be quick to act and protect the boxers from being seriously hurt in the ring - lives can depend on that. You also have in your hands the possible power to hurt a boxer's career if not making correct calls.
Good amount of people hate on Kenny
@@Zack_410 Yes there is indeed.
I actively look for fights which Steve Smoger officiated sometimes lol. He lets fighters work on the inside and even allows for some level of grappling as long as it isn't dirty. He's such a non-factor in clean fights and takes absolutely no bullshit by dirty fighters. He's my favourite ref by far
@@bautistacardozo7092 Well said and I agree. He was great at what he did. He was sanctioned in many of Bernard Hopkins world title fights at LH.
@@WarioSaysSo Exactly!! B-Hop was a fighter that greatly benefited from Smoger being in the ring. Although Hopkins could get legitimately dirty sometimes, when he was just grappling and bumping shoulders on the inside, Smoger wouldn't break them apart, unlike Joe Cortez, for example. Like, I do agree with you that Cortez was mostly a good referee, but he had a habit of not allowing for certain types of inside work. I think I remember him warning fighters for headbutts when all they were doing was pressing foreheads on the inside, although I could be thinking of another ref
Crazy, how I seen most of these fights. Also , I would add that Josh Taylor VS Jack Caterall referee and also the one in that Tim Bradley Vs Jessie Vargas on the list
Lol Josh Taylor was cheating all night, and then they robbed Catterall smh...
Gary Ritker in the Israil Madrimov vs Eric Walker fight was something you shouldve added to this list, he constantly yelled at madrimov, the non home fighter from uzbekistan, for low blows that were just above the belt line, he ruled a hit with the shoulder when madrimov knocked down eric walker and game him 5 mins of rest when walker was not even able to stand up he deducted points from madrimov, and also yelled at eric walker for not being "professional like" during a slip havent seen him ref a fight since
The fact that foreman's whole game was movement made this worse.
You just earn a hell of a lot of respect from me for posting this and letting he referee correct you and showing how you were wrong. When I look at this threw the eyes of the referee that sent you the email its almost like the ref in the ring had money on the fight and he should be fired for how bad he did.
OfficeHancho on top of things and so glad you put that Loma vs. Salido fight on here
Salido disgusts me
The ref allowed him to do it - and the judges. I detest them all for that blatant robbery and attempt to throw boxing history off.
Loma woulda been the fastest world champ had it not been for the corruption and sabotage
@@Animefightforum throw off history???? Boxing officials promoters were going to do everything in there power to make sure the great white hype succeeded... There's no way in hell a professional fighter should be fighting for World title in their second fight it's disrespectful to all the man who work for years to get title shots....
When I see a blue mat being folded, I know I'm about to enjoy a banger. Great content!
Laurence Cole should have his own video. So should Jack Reiss. Those two have messed up more fights than training camp injuries have.
I thought jack reiss was a good referee what fights did he mess up?
Jack Reiss is a great ref. laurence cole is some shit. lets not get the two confused.
Jack is the best referee
Laurence Cole is a criminal
Texas is corrupt. His father Dickie Cole was acknowledged as corrupt
My man! Thank you for putting me onto Soul Scream
Colon is a tragedy the ref should be arrested for how dog water he is at his JOB
Victor Ortiz was consistently a dirty fighter throughout his career 💯
I already know Loma and Solido on here 😂
Bro where is the referee who worked on the MMA fight between Manny Pacquiao vs Jeff Horn?
I agree with the guy who wrote the email.
Yes finally my video i ask for years has been made awesome
haven't watched yet but I already know Lawrence Cole gonna be on here
Those low blows man. My god
Good video. Surprised you didn’t mention the aftermath of Colon now being paralyzed likely due to those shots to the back of the head
To be fair, Russell Mora has improved tremendously the past few fights. Sadly though, the Agbeko vs Mares will forever tarnish his legacy as a prizefight referee.
Is it sad though? Agbeko was absolutely robbed. That doesn't just ruin the fight, but to a large extent the mans career.
Idk, I suspect some kind of corruption there or personal favoritism on his part in that fight. He’s shown he’s a good ref and knows how to call fights correctly but watched clear low blows come in and call them legal. It’s hard to believe that was honest so it rightly taints his career, he should have been investigated
My favorite thing about Hancho’s videos (aside from the quality content) is the intro!
Sometimes when a ref with a very good record clearly blows a fight you have to wonder if they're betting on the fight or getting paid off.
The Forman fight was incredible the first video! If I was in the corner I would stopped the fight no matter what! The refere would have to kick me out of because I would have been in the ring making him stop the fight. That refere had money on the fight and lost of it. He probably told a family member or really close friend to put money on the fight saying it would last a particular number of rounds. That the only reason he made him continue and ignored the towel, that’s the only reason, he needed a number of rounds to not loose money
The Reid v Ottke fight actually caused me to stop watching boxing for a few years. It was a disgusting display - both from the "referee" and from Ottke himself. He may have retired with an undefeated record, but seeing as - except for one time - he never fought outside of his native Germany, and was nearly always given the same preferential treatment he received in the Reid fight, Ottke's legacy leaves a hell of a lot to be desired.
yes it really sucks seing sven ottke on wikipedia in a list of undefeated champions and then realizing that he was a fraud really hurt. its the same when looking at german UFC fighters just for them to turn out as n@zis
THAT BUM RETIRED UNDEFEATED?? I see now why Roy Jones wouldn't go to Germany to fight Darius
Hancho....that afro with Shannon is classic
First ref probably had lots of money on the line and didn't want to lose his bet.
Thanks @OfficeHanchoBoxing . Always look forward to your videos. Bula from Fiji!
What's really strange is how judges & officials imported into Germany in an effort to curb the questionable officiating & scoring end up doing the opposite. I recall some interviews where fighters said they would never fight in Germany under any circumstances.
The Nyambayar Lukas was fairly recently too. They actually showed footage of the knockdown to the ref and he still said it was a slip.
That first ref had to have money on the line 😂
so lawrence cole for 20 minutes
This one got my blood pressure nice and high
I'm returning after another classic Laurence Cole performance in Spence-Ugas
Im pretty sure Cole’s father is the boss of the ref association. Hes basically a pathetic daddys-boy who accomplished nothing in life but getting gifted a job by his father
The ref in the beginning had money on that fight😂😂😂😂
It’s hilarious that Mora now works for WBO
I was there for Spence vs Ugas at AT&T stadium and the sheer terrible refereeing done that night by Laurence Cole was nonstop, almost every fight. It amazes me how he still referees these high-profile fights, let alone referee at all. He got booed so many times I'm sure watchers at home heard.
I think you could devote a whole UA-cam Channel to this topic with no end in sight.
Ref did almost the same when Cotto fought Zab. I’d watch that fight too
Every single one of these referees had to have money on the fight there’s no way someone could ref an entire fight that poorly
joe coopers performance in the prichard colon fight was easily the worst ive ever seen in a boxing match. the sport needs a blacklist for judges and referees who show signs of corruption, and clear mismanagement of a fight. great video as always Officehancho 👍👍
Awesome.
I have to say: 'Redux' is not a French word; it's not 'redeoux', it's just 're-dux'. Like 're-ducks'.
Love your work, cheers mate.
Anytime you upload my day immediately gets better
That referee knew what he was talking about.
The Colon one is a different man that aint right
Hancho keep the ref series up bro
I was waiting for Lawrence Cole...THE WORST..
Incredible that even after that terrible performance Russell Mora had been in many of the biggest fights in boxing ( he was the referee in almost all the most important fights last year)
Yo Crooked Refs are my favorite part of Basketball.
Dude I just stumbled across this video in my recommendations and just thought, you NEED to watch felix sturm vs szili when it comes to bad refs.
I know it´s not a big fight but it´s pretty new and you won´t believe what you will see in this fight, 100% promised!!!!
The referee was more than willing to overlook several low blows at the end of the Ward/ Kovalev2 fight that should’ve been disqualifying whether he was on the verge of winning by KO or not
I didn't know double leg takedowns were allowed in boxing...
The colon Prichard fight was horrible. I found a video of the rabbit punches, and I counted I believe around 42 or 45? It was horrible watching it all.
Great work as always mate
Even though he doesn’t do boxing Mario yamaski should be on here lol
Respect to Emmanuel Stewart R.I.P.
As a casual fan, the fact that TERRIBLE referees never seem to go away, or even suffer censure is astonishing to me. It taints the sport. Most of these examples should be the END of the careers for any of these guys, yet they continue to enjoy employment. Astonishing.
WhAt dO yOu mEaN iT's RuN bY tHe MoB ?
Love your videos man, keep up the amazing work.
Everyone of those referees should've had their licenses revoked, never be allowed to referee in any state and revocation for life. That German Nazi referee didn't even bother to disguise his flagrant and blatant prejudice. "The FIX is in." When all is said and done it's always the Warrior, the Gladiator, the Boxer, the Fighter, the Athlete, that ALWAYS pays the price.
UncLeo
The ref from last night should be on this list 😆 Dude did terrible on that Spence vs Ugas
Literally came here to write this lol