They are both fools. He supported Israel from day one when they shut all water and electricity. Too late to change your mind James. You’re no better than her. It’s simply too depressing
The worst thing is that she thinks she's telling the truth and that she has a coherent belief system. People like her are responsible for atrocity after atrocity.
Criticism of Israel, the IDF and the ghastly government there is not anti-Jewish, there's plenty of people of Jewish descent who are appalled by the actions of the Israeli state and its murderous assault on Gaza.
Absolutely, and calling anyone who disapproves of Israel's behaviour "anti-semitic" is dangerous. There is real anti-semitism in the world, and crying wolf means that people will take that accusation far less seriously in future.
exactly and I am a member of one of the organisations that don't support the Israeli regime, don't support the apartheid and don't support 75 years of Palestinian oppression. James should get someone from Naamod on the show
Be carefull with that, it's a limited criticism.. They will only go so far with the criticism.. They never mention the strangle hold they have over governments /media, positions of power
If any criticism of the actions and crimes of Israel is antisemitism and an attack on ALL Jews, then logic dictates that the inverse is also true, the actions and crimes of Israel is the responsibility of ALL Jews. Obviously, any sane person doesn’t think this is true.
What Holly wanted to say is that there isnt breach of international humanitarian law simply because she (as most pro-israel) doesnt consider palestinians as humans.
@@Canvashed Yes, you are right, but the Western world has only been listening to one side for far too long, and in doing so has encouraged the excesses we finally realise now.
As the hinges came off, the true face of anger and hate was revealed. Pretty powerful stuff. I do wonder how compliant one must be to allow others to push so much hate into your heart, especially for people you've never met and likely never will.
Having kids murdered by drones just for moving outside. Having people murdered just for being Palestinians. Having idf soldiers bragging they murdered babies is sick.
@MrPutin-e7v then don't claim to be a democratic state that respects international law if you think Hamas 's actions justify Israel doing similar things
@MrPutin-e7vHamas lives behind a wall under blockade Once in a while Israel “mows the lawn as they call it They are blocked from imports, the sea, not allowed to return if they leave the country. It is common practise for the IDF to photograph rapes if Palestinian girls and use them as informants This is a brutal occupation and on Oct 7 Hamas hit two bases with servers to get list of spies and informants. Nearly all deaths on Oct 7 were due to heavy ordinance so all of the cars are buried and the media is blocked. Can you imagine sitting in a hole for a month hurrying your waste and waiting weeks at a time for a chance to strike an army with rudimentary weapons Idk; seems like people pushed hard to this old white guy.
@@evamurray2564they should continue to live there. Nobody including the OP is saying otherwise. Being anti-zionist, means that you believe that people who are not Jewish, should also be allowed to live there without persecution. My personal position is that There should never be a state for Jewish people. Just like there shouldn't be a state for any other religion/race etc. That doesn't mean that there cannot be states that are plurality or majority Jewish (or other). Or that if such a state does exist it poses any problem. Just that being Jewish (or any other religion/race etc) cannot be a qualifying factor to the right to live peacefully and without fear in Isreal or any other state.
You mean those tanks being atracked from ZERO DISTANCE? Destroyed by bare foot warriors? Or those tanks which love to shoot at unarmed children in streets?@marcoalessandro2034
Trouble is...nobody in Israel, bar the families of Israelies in Gaza want a ceasefire...and the rest of them would rather see dead Palestinians than the return of Israelies. Have you seen the polls Most of them think Netanyahu hasn't gone far enough. And boy have they bought off the UK and US politicians.
@marcoalessandro2034he simply dissolves people who think they’re clever. Best radio presenter of this generation and I seem to think people who think other wise are the ones who ring in and end up hanging up.
Abdul-loving James O'Brien, a.k.a. the high priest of jiggery-pokery-wokery-quackery, excelled again at attacking a straw man, cutting Holly off, talking over her, going ad hominem etc etc He's a disgrace.
NATO is certainly conditional, and has not really been tested seriously. Geopolitically many think that if Turkey was to be attacked for instance it is difficult to see how quick others would be to respond. NATO membership is beneficial mostly for technology and intelligence sharing.
So why waste a chunk of the call on unwavering James!!! To educate you it means full unadulterated support where it matters and the occasional disgust of civilian deaths , frantically seeking a ceasefire, threatening to stop supplies to Israel is aid doesn’t get into Gaza!!!!!!! That’s unwavering james
Tokenism - the minimum they think they can get away with without being locked up for complicity. This is hardly support for international humanitarian law by a former human rights lawyer and former DPP.
"Israel has taken extraordinary lengths to comply with international law" !!!! ??? What planet is this women living on ? Thankyou for holding her to account , although I doubt she understands that her views are completely indefensible.
James moved my position with this call - I was frustrated with him for the first half, thinking he was being uncharitable to the caller and rude in his interruptions. But he really did expose the caller’s essential view that Israel deserves to commit crimes with no repercussions - and that nothing the state of Israel can do should diminish their access to weapons, even if they use them to violate international law, for as long as Hamas exists. He’s clearly dealt with the same rhetorical evasions and tactics enough times that he’s able to see through them and dismiss them more quickly than I could as a humble listener.
His interruptions at the start, whilst annoying to the caller, was his attempt to clarify the facts that surround the discussion. Without those there is no discussion. So it is vital he interrupted. Callers like that survive on flooding the zone with lies. Not on this call‼️⛔️
@@daveygee434Exactly. He pointed out she was trying to gish gallop (make lots of points before the other person can respond). I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve heard the line “You won’t let me answer” when they want to filibuster and avoid answering a simple question.
She mentioned 1 5yr old Israeli child but ignors the deaths of over 30,000 Palestinian children. Brown children don't seem to matter to that hysterical caller.
@@ronnyjambo2226I'm in direct contact with 3 from doctors without borders, 1 of whom is British. You say false stats but they've all been treating innocent children for months in temporary hospitals in the thousands.
Pretty much, although listening to it trying to justify its sick thoughts was eye opening. Opens your eyes to what kind of people could live next door to you.
"They say (some of them) ,"We are not accountable for whatsoever we may do to the Gentiles."And thus speak untruth about Allah/Creator while they know it." ▪︎Holy Quran (3:75)
If only you would state that you don't care about Israelis. Or nowhere near as much as you care about the "noble savage". I've been to Gaza in calmer times. Indolent men putting on the women, living well off the fat of international aid. Hamas could have turned it into a Dubai style resort or at least any other major Mediterranean style resort, they chose a different path.
@davidgavin7280 David.... 1000 isreali civilians qere killed ... in response 40000 Palestinians have been massacred. Regardless of what you believe Hamas could have done in your mind, the facts are what we are discussing. The fact is that Israel has slaughtered many more civilians than Hamas.
It’s not even that they are evil. All they see is Israelis look like her, and Palestinian look foreign. So she doesn’t care. It’s all it boils down to.
Probably the same kind of people who line up at the borders trying to sabotage aid getting into Gaza. It's beyond sick. Although, I suspect she's just a Karen who's jumped on the Israel bandwagon, not really having any understanding of the situation. If she was a true Zionist she wouldn't be asking for zero deaths. She said Hamas started it. If she knew any better, she'd know that Netanyahu was the driving force behind the creation of Hamas in the first place. I suspect she doesn't have a clue to the history and the atrocities that the IOF have been committing for generations. They're so much worse than any Russians invading Ukraine, but the hypocrisy of some of the British people is sickening. Who knew human rights were subjective in the eyes of so many. Shame on them all
Over 16,000 children have lost their lives (I can’t unfortunately type the words which actually describe what has happened to those precious lives as my post would be taken down). There is plenty of clear evidence that children have deliberately been targeted. And now famine and disease are finishing the job. It is INSANE that we are even debating the “rights & wrongs” of this situation. Does ANYONE actually believe that continuing with this madness will stop what is left of the next generation (on both sides) continuing this conflict?
do you kn why idf is in gaza or do you just don,t care. what about the 1200 hunderd who were killed in israel. and what about all the kinnapped hostages gaza people took from israel does that matter. their is clear evidence alot of those kids attack idf soiders. blame hamas they fight from schools and hospitals and suround them selfs with kids. and hamas started this war and are still shooting rockets into israel
Says who Hamas a group who are calling for the destruction of Israel 2 points where are all the bodies and a detailed list of the victims and cause of deaths.
Perhaps if you all find some real facts, about Isreal, Palastine, what UK, France, USA has done in that region in last 60 yearrs, you would be better educated, rather than copy these Corrupt News, Media, just fixed on Oct. 7???
@@clareowen2047 and you haven’t added anything to the conversation by saying the person is naive. At least tell us what Isreal has done aside flatten Gaza
@@annmcevoy5686 pointing out somebody made a fool of themselves and sounded unhinged is playground? No, it's called holding people accountable for the nonsense they speak and holding a mirror up so they hopefully recognise it. They won't of course, they rarely do.
@@trickslies844 by what definition is stealing Internationally recognised lands by force for religious ideology considered necessary? And breaches of international law are still breaches unless such caveats are written in the law.
@@trickslies844This is exactly it - “law for thee but not for me.” Israel’s supporters at this point do not believe Israel has an obligation to obey international law.
Holly is being so honest & straightforward. no point arguing with anti senites. israel us the most moral army. hamas gets away with everything!! ALL THE DEATHS Is hamas fault. period. ceasefire ?? that's giving hamas what they want!!!!!
She's demented. Israel has NOT upheld international law. Just saying they have doesn't make it true. I hate callers like this. Expects to be able to spout off without interruption. She says something that isnt true and expects to just be able to carry on unchallenged. Every time he challenges her she switches topic. Cut her off.
@@MrWhitmen1981Well Hamas is a designated terror organisation for exactly that reason. If the US and Israel do exactly that, then they should be put in the terrorist organisations list as well.
Madness is starting a fight you can't win, with people you rely on. Madness is refusing to surrender when losing and accepting only the complete destruction of a people as a success. Madness is openly turning your childeren in to soldiers and then complaining when they get treated like them.
@@Myrtle43 Should we be using Iran as a basis for how to behave? Just adopt their laws? It is an interesting idea but not sure that I'd be fully into it tbh.
UK arms sales make up a whopping +/- 0.3% of Israeli arms imports. 99% of Israeli arms are imported from the US and Germany, the US delivering twice as much as Germany. The UK is utterly irrelevant when it comes to Israel's military.
I love the way she labels Hamas as genocidal maniacs.... let's face it... the IDF, Netanyahu and those digusting settlers are MUCH more deserving of this label
Can you just explain this to me because the combatant to militant death ratio is in line with all urban conflicts of the past and that’s if you take Hamas’ numbers, all while Hamas are trying to maximise civilian casualties on their own side; has there ever been a war in history where one side has been solely responsible for the civilians not only on their own side but on the opposing side as well with international scrutiny no nation has ever faced in a war before
@@jamesjarvis530 Garbage. The Hamas numbers are confirmed deaths from a non-functioning health ministry and do not include the missing. The death rate is at least double. Along with 250k deaths from illnesses left untreated.
@@jamesjarvis530 Victim blaming.. The only side thats maximizing civilian deaths is Israel. No hostage deals because the previous hostages released praised Hamas for their hospitality.
@@jamesjarvis530Who told you that, Netanyahu? If over half of the dead are women and children, and not all of the men killed will be Hamas, how do you work out that half of the of the casualties are Hamas? That just doesn't compute.
“Any killing is too much. But also let’s give unwavering support for those doing the killing”. These people are unreal. As in, it’s literally hard to believe they exist.
@@Canvashed why do you think yitzhak rabin was assassinated and who was inciting for the killing of the Prime minister that signed a peace treaty with the Palestinians?
@@robertreynolds2702 No one has called anyone antimuslim for not supporting them. However, you can clearly see what happens if you don't support the illegal state.
@@robertreynolds2702unless you are connecting the whole of the Palestinians as Hamas. That is the disconnect with this collective punishment allowance How do you REALLY feel?
@@cup1966wow What i never understood is why we can't just be friends with Iran instead... I mean honestly before WE started to meddle with their regime, Iran was a progressive nation. But ever since Iran wanted to have the rights to their own oil reserves we have been constantly meddling there which may or may not have caused this current backwards regime to emerge.
@@magnuscarlsson9969 A big part of why Iran changed is because of the Iranian revolution. Issue is OPEC have not helped themself, their manipulation of oil prices has a direct effect on western countries. Almost came to blows in the 70s because of it. But as to situation now its a tough balance, Iran are involved in a lot of activities which affect western countries plans, hence all the embargos. To change the direction that Iran is going won't be easy, especially as they are unlikely to want to change while embargos are in place.
It seems straightforward. If there are suspected breaches of international law going on, you should suspend sales pending investigation. Now review all the other countries we sell arms to as well.
If we did that we would have no allies left. This isn't about law. The UK gov don't care about international law. They care about the optics of breaking it. The US can no longer fool people into thinking they are doing right by Gaza so their lapdog, Whitehall, is now crapping itself in case it becomes a pariah state complicit in human rights abuses
There has been various investigations by different international law bodies, and despite their hardest efforts, they can find no evidence of Israel breaking international law.
Also, are the teenage boys and girls detained by Israel without charges being subjected to the horrific conditions described by Human Rights Watch (founded, of course, by a Holocaust survivor) in their last week's report?
Have you seen why? Often they are detained because Hamas is forcing them to walk towards Israeli troops with bombs strapped to them…. They know they are not ‘guilty’ they are indoctrinated
Hamas exists as a result of the terrorist state of Israel committing 75 years of war crimes against the Palestinian people. As she feels the need to scream "Hamas exists" repeatedly so maybe she needs to know why they exist.
Except that the Palestinians hatred toward Jews predates the creation of Israel. Also its not like the neighbouring countries where Israel does not exist are any better.
@@trickslies844that’s a bold face lie… Jews lived peacefully in Palestine before Israel was created… and that’s backed by historic evidence. Please don’t lie, it irks me when uneducated people lie and have the audacity to act like a know it all 🫤
Caller 1 : Don’t you think that Israel allowing polio vaccination is to prevent it spreading to Israel which would cause more domestic trouble for him.
@@hg_rebase Still wouldn't prevent it from spreading completely. Think anti-vaxxers, medically exempt, less than 100% effectiveness. Way more effective to vaccinate at source
@@hg_rebasethat wouldn’t stop polio though or every vaccine in the world would work for the rich if they just supplied the people who could pay. It usually takes over around 70% vaccination rates at least for herd immunity but I think it’s something like 80% for polio or well over 90 for measles.
I wouldn't go that far. Especially in this clip, he is not very rational, just shouting and not listening... he's a bit like a hysterical clown. And that's coming from someone that 8s on the same side, acknowledging Israel's crimes in the middle east.
@@maggieedward3951 "she should have been called out" She should. But this isn't calling her out, this is just childish. Let her finish her argument, then challenge her on it.
James O'Brien gaslighted her, misquoted her and was mocking her. He is obnoxious at times and needs to be called out. As for the overwhelming comments of support for O'Brien , this tells us of the problem this country is having.
This woman needs to be on the watch list. This is the kind of people Palestine has been up against since 1948.
and who else is on the watch list, just the Jews i think you meant
@@williammohan9784what?
@@IntoTheUnknownnnnnnn you know what i meant matey
@@williammohan9784 what are drugs are you on mate.😅
@@williammohan9784 No we really don't, next time stay of drugs.😅
This sounds like a woman who has never been challenged and can't quite believe it's happening to her. Brilliant
she was seriously shocked when pushed on her stances, couldnt handle it and switched topics each time
There will be no peace in the Middle East. Fed up of hearing all these wars in the middle east throughout my lifetime.
@@anobody3803 it's the preferred tactic of the hard of thinking, either that or resorting to insults and then rage quitting.
At times I thought James was going to do the classic the volume down technique and let her keep talking without realising she’s talking to no one
@@anobody3803 she told him the truth and he did not like it . she handled it great
I would like to congratulate Holly on making a complete and utter fool of herself on national radio. Well done Holly👏👏👏
That's what happen if some watch too much BBC.
Both sides are as bad as one another neither side wants peace let them get on with it not our problem England 🏴
They are both fools.
He supported Israel from day one when they shut all water and electricity. Too late to change your mind James. You’re no better than her.
It’s simply too depressing
Neither of them came out of this very well 🤣
That's the right answer. They should be allowed to handle the savage threat without intervention @@Bushwacker-mb6hw
This lady lied, got caught lying, then denied lying. She repeated this process for 12 minutes. Unreal.
The worst thing is that she thinks she's telling the truth and that she has a coherent belief system. People like her are responsible for atrocity after atrocity.
Israel all over her
Mileikowsky @@Swordfish-q8l
Classic narcissism. If she is married I feel bad for her husband. If she has kids I feel very bad for them.
@@TinkerbellingtonI was just thinking that! Gosh I really hope no man is going through that
Offended by everything, ashamed of nothing. Israel in a nutshell.
Absolutely 👍
worse than an israeli zio is the zio 5th column outside of israel
@AndersBrevicnope just the wicked regime israhell
I doubt Anders can name the 'Arab nations' accurately.
No silly @AndersBrevic
She needs to be on a watch list. How can any human being support a state that celebrates gang R--- of detainees..
Spot on Tara
@MrPutin-e7v Get a life pal
@MrPutin-e7v pleb
@MrPutin-e7v No you can’t.
Keep talking tough on the Internet little buddy.
O Brian is a creep 😊
Anti-Israel is not anti-Jewish.
Totally agree
And anti-Netanyahu is not anti-Israel
It can be, but the issue isn’t Israel. It’s the actions and leaders of Israel
Unfortunately being anti Israel can be antisemitic and the word antisemitic has been seriously devalued.
@@sircaballero no its the actions of the hamas monsters
She should be ashamed of herself and her family should be disgusted with her
Criticism of Israel, the IDF and the ghastly government there is not anti-Jewish, there's plenty of people of Jewish descent who are appalled by the actions of the Israeli state and its murderous assault on Gaza.
Absolutely, and calling anyone who disapproves of Israel's behaviour "anti-semitic" is dangerous. There is real anti-semitism in the world, and crying wolf means that people will take that accusation far less seriously in future.
exactly and I am a member of one of the organisations that don't support the Israeli regime, don't support the apartheid and don't support 75 years of Palestinian oppression.
James should get someone from Naamod on the show
Be carefull with that, it's a limited criticism.. They will only go so far with the criticism.. They never mention the strangle hold they have over governments /media, positions of power
Yes it is it’s Antisemitism.
If any criticism of the actions and crimes of Israel is antisemitism and an attack on ALL Jews, then logic dictates that the inverse is also true, the actions and crimes of Israel is the responsibility of ALL Jews.
Obviously, any sane person doesn’t think this is true.
This lady could be an AIPAC lobbiest in the US.
probably is
Liz, is that you ?.
She could well be from some Hasbara org
Depraved.
*lobbyist
What Holly wanted to say is that there isnt breach of international humanitarian law simply because she (as most pro-israel) doesnt consider palestinians as humans.
Who cares what she considers or her personal opinion of Palestinians?
🎯 100% agree. Absolutely zero shame in her own inhumanity.
THEY showed us on the 7th Oct that they are NOT
James O’Brien Brilliantly managed to reveal how Israeli
Sympathiser can only sees one side of the coin, THEIRS!
Going down that "unwavering" route revealed the truth. She can see no wrong in what Israel does and will ever do.
She believes the lie. Like any number of people. The lie has been in existence for a long time. @akmal94ibrahim
Both sides if you listen to supporters seem to be unwavering? How do find a solution in the face of that?
Those breaches in international law by Israel have been happening for 75 years.
@@Lord.of.the.Vultures Israel have been getting away with war crimes for decades. They surprised people taking notice now
Tosh
Israel forever.
And the world has finally woken up to it. Anyone who supports the occupation isn't sane
Yawn.
Wow. She sounds evil. Heartless.
@@EdBarr-n8r 2 sides to every story.
@@Canvashed Yes, you are right, but the Western world has only been listening to one side for far too long, and in doing so has encouraged the excesses we finally realise now.
As the hinges came off, the true face of anger and hate was revealed. Pretty powerful stuff. I do wonder how compliant one must be to allow others to push so much hate into your heart, especially for people you've never met and likely never will.
Yeah, almost something Islamic about her!
Like Hamas
This lady’s ultimate ambition is to work for AIPAC 🇦🇺🇮🇹
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She want's to be uber Hasbara.
She wants what Tommy Robinson has!
@@PLGAZA She wants to get paid!
Physco women 😂
She's probably working for 'em already
Having kids murdered by drones just for moving outside. Having people murdered just for being Palestinians. Having idf soldiers bragging they murdered babies is sick.
Horrifying and sickening
@MrPutin-e7v hamas did 1000X worse
@MrPutin-e7v then don't claim to be a democratic state that respects international law if you think Hamas 's actions justify Israel doing similar things
@MrPutin-e7v Hamas harvesting organs too?
@MrPutin-e7vHamas lives behind a wall under blockade
Once in a while Israel “mows the lawn as they call it
They are blocked from imports, the sea, not allowed to return if they leave the country.
It is common practise for the IDF to photograph rapes if Palestinian girls and use them as informants
This is a brutal occupation and on Oct 7 Hamas hit two bases with servers to get list of spies and informants.
Nearly all deaths on Oct 7 were due to heavy ordinance so all of the cars are buried and the media is blocked.
Can you imagine sitting in a hole for a month hurrying your waste and waiting weeks at a time for a chance to strike an army with rudimentary weapons
Idk; seems like people pushed hard to this old white guy.
Wow. That woman was AWFUL!
Imagine having her as your neighbor
@@nic_cage I'm glad I don't live in Wimbledon.
Adsalutly.
why because she tells the truth
@@nic_cageimagine having Hamas as your neighbour,you’d prefer that would you.
Being anti-Zionist is just the hallmark of decency.
the baseline more like
So what is your proposal for the 10 million Israelis that live in Israel?
@@evamurray2564they should continue to live there. Nobody including the OP is saying otherwise.
Being anti-zionist, means that you believe that people who are not Jewish, should also be allowed to live there without persecution.
My personal position is that There should never be a state for Jewish people. Just like there shouldn't be a state for any other religion/race etc. That doesn't mean that there cannot be states that are plurality or majority Jewish (or other). Or that if such a state does exist it poses any problem.
Just that being Jewish (or any other religion/race etc) cannot be a qualifying factor to the right to live peacefully and without fear in Isreal or any other state.
You mean those tanks being atracked from ZERO DISTANCE? Destroyed by bare foot warriors? Or those tanks which love to shoot at unarmed children in streets?@marcoalessandro2034
@marcoalessandro2034 last time I checked I was just fine.
Unwavering support says it all!
I found her views very bias! X
The blood thirst is real.
Sorry are you supporting that or not
When one is devoid of a frontal lobe
I think this woman might have been my ex. Always cackling on about being right and everyone else is wrong because they're not very bright.
They're so entitled that they can't believe they're being challenged. Well done James...👏🏾
This woman is sick in the head
no hamas is
Trouble is...nobody in Israel, bar the families of Israelies in Gaza want a ceasefire...and the rest of them would rather see dead Palestinians than the return of Israelies.
Have you seen the polls
Most of them think Netanyahu hasn't gone far enough.
And boy have they bought off the UK and US politicians.
@@brentmarr1331 The two are not mutually exclusive, whataboutism doesn't absolve anyone of war crimes.
😂😂😂 Lame.@@brentmarr1331
Is that you Holly? @@brentmarr1331
I just love O'Brien. He fact checks everyone.
Apart from vaccine manufacturers, he trusted them blindly. Stop spread, nope
He betrayed those who are unable to answer simple questions. Are you new to this channel?
@marcoalessandro2034he simply dissolves people who think they’re clever. Best radio presenter of this generation and I seem to think people who think other wise are the ones who ring in and end up hanging up.
@@Deleted11100he's rattled and he does not like it
@@henrystevens2258 you are probably envious of those with basic common sense and knowledge.
If what Israel has done is not a war crime, what is?
That question is antisemitic
Using women and children as human shields like hamas does.
Hamas using their own civilians as human shields.
@@ma5839how?
What Hamas has done.
Same entitled unhinged behaviour. Thanks James for refuting the blatant lies so brilliantly.
They lie and they lie and they lie and they lie😅
Yes Hamas lies and lies.
😂😂 without lies zionism dies @@sabine1470
Joker 😂😂😂😂😂@@sabine1470
@@sabine1470was talking about labour
@@sabine1470bot go to sleep.
This women is brain washed 😂
You have to have a brain for it to be washed.
@@Bennyboy12 Well you're certainly not wrong there 😂
Holly's blind hate for Palestinians unbelievable
I think completely rational who invaded who.
@@PaulHolland-zo6lw You must be joking....Israel has been illegally occupying Palestine since 1967...
@@adrien5834nonsense, why would they?
Well placed considering the mayhem Palestinians have caused all over the ME. There’s a reason NO ONE will let them in
@@robuk3723 Sorry, what?
*How dangerous and radicalised is Holly?*
Yupp!
Its unbelievable that Holly thought she could gaslight _James O'brien._
He was the only gas lighter. He prevented her making any point by massive interruptions. He is a coward. He put words into her mouth. He is vile.
@@Andrew4Handel
Are you a friend of Holly?
I suggest you listen to it back if you decide to respond..
@@Andrew4Handel Gawd how did you not go out rioting with your mates, was your mum not in IBIZA.
@@Andrew4HandelYou should listen again potentially with less of a blinkered view.
Abdul-loving James O'Brien, a.k.a. the high priest of jiggery-pokery-wokery-quackery, excelled again at attacking a straw man, cutting Holly off, talking over her, going ad hominem etc etc
He's a disgrace.
No country should ever be deserving of unconditional or unwavering support
What's the point of nato then.
@@PaulHolland-zo6lwlmao if you think nato doesn’t have conditions on its “protection”
@@PaulHolland-zo6lw is life easier as a two-dimensional person?
NATO is certainly conditional, and has not really been tested seriously. Geopolitically many think that if Turkey was to be attacked for instance it is difficult to see how quick others would be to respond. NATO membership is beneficial mostly for technology and intelligence sharing.
@@PaulHolland-zo6lwAnd yet another DH comment. You are not very smart. Think before you write Paul.
Unwavering ???
She lost me at that, i think she's completely LOST anyway !!
So why waste a chunk of the call on unwavering James!!!
To educate you it means full unadulterated support where it matters and the occasional disgust of civilian deaths , frantically seeking a ceasefire, threatening to stop supplies to Israel is aid doesn’t get into Gaza!!!!!!!
That’s unwavering james
She's fuming that she isn't allowed to lie without being challenged...
That's how the self styled chosen are. Listen to the unhinged melanie phillips or margaret hodge and a pattern will quickly emerge.
As a fellow Holly, I am embarrassed by her…
we should rename her "Wally".
what's in a name, besides the person wearing it?
@hollywalker7796 I'm sure she speaks equally high about you dear!
Then you are a decent Holly
why cause she tells the truth
Imagine if she put this much energy into something useful
Haha so true
Amazing isn't it.
World's two greatest problem,greed and hate.
Imagined being married to that?
I cant imagine she is capable of imagining
The ban is a joke. 30 licenses cancelled out 350
I agree it should of been zero cancellations.
@@JasonPhillips-yk3pv or 350
@@JasonPhillips-yk3pv less than 10%
Have all 350. Labour backbenchers support the wrong side
Tokenism - the minimum they think they can get away with without being locked up for complicity. This is hardly support for international humanitarian law by a former human rights lawyer and former DPP.
Is she watching the news??? Are they blind??? We are not blind....they are killing thousands... 😢😢😢
They did it for decades and you just realised It when BBC want you to know about it
@@mojishayestehmanesh661 oh no.i have been very aware of this for 50 years..x
@@mojishayestehmanesh661 the BBC is trying to underplay it along with all the main stream media..
"Israel has taken extraordinary lengths to comply with international law" !!!! ??? What planet is this women living on ? Thankyou for holding her to account , although I doubt she understands that her views are completely indefensible.
James moved my position with this call - I was frustrated with him for the first half, thinking he was being uncharitable to the caller and rude in his interruptions. But he really did expose the caller’s essential view that Israel deserves to commit crimes with no repercussions - and that nothing the state of Israel can do should diminish their access to weapons, even if they use them to violate international law, for as long as Hamas exists. He’s clearly dealt with the same rhetorical evasions and tactics enough times that he’s able to see through them and dismiss them more quickly than I could as a humble listener.
@@enbym1793 He's a master debater!
His interruptions at the start, whilst annoying to the caller, was his attempt to clarify the facts that surround the discussion. Without those there is no discussion. So it is vital he interrupted. Callers like that survive on flooding the zone with lies. Not on this call‼️⛔️
@@daveygee434Exactly. He pointed out she was trying to gish gallop (make lots of points before the other person can respond).
I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve heard the line “You won’t let me answer” when they want to filibuster and avoid answering a simple question.
Israel is not committing any crimes. It's a war!
@@valeriemacphail9180 Not!
She mentioned 1 5yr old Israeli child but ignors the deaths of over 30,000 Palestinian children. Brown children don't seem to matter to that hysterical caller.
Why bring colour into it? There are brown children in both Israeli and Palestinian populations...
Make your point without using false stats.
@@ronnyjambo2226😂
@@ronnyjambo2226I'm in direct contact with 3 from doctors without borders, 1 of whom is British. You say false stats but they've all been treating innocent children for months in temporary hospitals in the thousands.
The numbers are a liieeeeee
6 hostages more important than 40000? 😮
Its about the land they want all Palestinians dead , this conflict serves that purpose. Why else would netanyahu financial support hammas
Absolutely out of touch with reality !!
And you wonder why people have had ENOUGH of this BS !!
She spoke so much, she didn’t even know that she contradicted herself about 20 times
Israel supporters are just walking talking contradictions
so are hamas supporters
@@brentmarr1331youre so rite.
@@brentmarr1331You know Benjamin N. Supported Hamas and helped dismantle the secular Palestinian government
Listening to this woman is like listening to a british politician, police man or soldier denying the murders they committed worldwide.
She feels she was born with impunity which is why she can talk the way she did.
she is ill. And this is what Palestinians have dealt with since their land was invaded
It wasn't ever Palestinians land
And Groomers in Rochdale, Telford..............ill, sick??
@@PaulHolland-zo6lw That's a pathetic attempt at baiting
Yes Golda Meir as a former palestinian knew it very well.
@@GhostFitzKillabut true.
Is this woman being paid by Israel per word?
Yes
The reverse can be said.
Your right @@redscouse7056
Money cannot buy this level of fantatasim
No doubt
Deranged.
I think James is.
@@sabine1470you spelt Holly wrong. 😊
@@sabine1470 I think so too. Would he be this hostile towards a pro Palestinian caller?
@@sabine1470anyone who sides with Israel has some real moral issues
@@sabine1470 Prove it Holly
She is so used to talking over people
James won't let her get away with this deranged woman
If only she would just state she doesn’t care about Palestinians. Call would’ve gone so much quicker.
Pretty much, although listening to it trying to justify its sick thoughts was eye opening. Opens your eyes to what kind of people could live next door to you.
"They say (some of them) ,"We are not accountable for whatsoever we may do to the Gentiles."And thus speak untruth about Allah/Creator while they know it."
▪︎Holy Quran (3:75)
She did not say that thought did she? Don't put words into her mouth that she never said.
If only you would state that you don't care about Israelis. Or nowhere near as much as you care about the "noble savage". I've been to Gaza in calmer times. Indolent men putting on the women, living well off the fat of international aid. Hamas could have turned it into a Dubai style resort or at least any other major Mediterranean style resort, they chose a different path.
@davidgavin7280 David.... 1000 isreali civilians qere killed ... in response 40000 Palestinians have been massacred. Regardless of what you believe Hamas could have done in your mind, the facts are what we are discussing. The fact is that Israel has slaughtered many more civilians than Hamas.
It’s actually scary how many heartless people are about in society. Imagine protesting against a move that reduces killing and humanitarian suffering.
It’s not even that they are evil. All they see is Israelis look like her, and Palestinian look foreign. So she doesn’t care. It’s all it boils down to.
Probably the same kind of people who line up at the borders trying to sabotage aid getting into Gaza. It's beyond sick.
Although, I suspect she's just a Karen who's jumped on the Israel bandwagon, not really having any understanding of the situation. If she was a true Zionist she wouldn't be asking for zero deaths. She said Hamas started it. If she knew any better, she'd know that Netanyahu was the driving force behind the creation of Hamas in the first place. I suspect she doesn't have a clue to the history and the atrocities that the IOF have been committing for generations.
They're so much worse than any Russians invading Ukraine, but the hypocrisy of some of the British people is sickening. Who knew human rights were subjective in the eyes of so many. Shame on them all
That's a definition of evil....@@PsychicLarry
A masterclass of deconstructing Zionist lies
Get a life
@@robertgrimshaw9036Or take the life of 15,000 kids.
Piffle
@@mbvbac do you think hamas want to stop at That?
@@robertgrimshaw9036 Let’s deal in factual reality of what has actually happened - not imagination.
Over 16,000 children have lost their lives (I can’t unfortunately type the words which actually describe what has happened to those precious lives as my post would be taken down). There is plenty of clear evidence that children have deliberately been targeted. And now famine and disease are finishing the job. It is INSANE that we are even debating the “rights & wrongs” of this situation. Does ANYONE actually believe that continuing with this madness will stop what is left of the next generation (on both sides) continuing this conflict?
Palestinians didnt loose their lives they were murdered
do you kn why idf is in gaza or do you just don,t care. what about the 1200 hunderd who were killed in israel. and what about all the kinnapped hostages gaza people took from israel does that matter. their is clear evidence alot of those kids attack idf soiders. blame hamas they fight from schools and hospitals and suround them selfs with kids. and hamas started this war and are still shooting rockets into israel
The algorithm wouldn’t let you - but we people on the right side of justice know what has happened
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Says who Hamas a group who are calling for the destruction of Israel 2 points where are all the bodies and a detailed list of the victims and cause of deaths.
Where show us clear unbiased evidence.
IM ABSALOUTLY DISGUSTED THAT WE ARE AS UK COMPLICIT IN THE WAR CRIMES OF PALESTINE
@@ifsanakauser7194 so you should be
So is the other side in October 7.
@@PaulHolland-zo6lw Out of interest do you think the October 7th attacks could have been prevented?'
Perhaps if you all find some real facts, about Isreal, Palastine, what UK, France, USA has done in that region in last 60 yearrs, you would be better educated, rather than copy these Corrupt News, Media, just fixed on Oct. 7???
Under occupation, the Palestinians have a right to self defence.
Enjoinf your rights right now?
hamas attacked israel israel has a right to defend itself
Yep @@brentmarr1331
@@brentmarr1331 nope! An occupied people can NOT be guilty of resistance! Wakey-wakey!
@@brentmarr1331 Absolutely they have a right to defend themselves. But they are not defending themselves, they are attacking Gaza.
i listened to this 5 times its just so satisfying to hear a person get checked on their inhumanity
Steady on ,,
Where did you get that??
They keep forgetting Israel is illegally occupied Palestine
Not forgetting it’s done intentionally
no they are not
There has never been a palestine.
@@Aspartame69you can only wish it but Palestine is up in your face and there's nothing you can do about it ✊🇵🇸
@@Aspartame69There has always been a Palestine even Golda Meir had a Palestinian passport
Israel hasn't permitted vaccines, the World Health Organisation has!
You are naïve
Israel allowed the vaccines to be administered. Can the UN give the vaccines without Israel allowing it?
@@clareowen2047 and you haven’t added anything to the conversation by saying the person is naive. At least tell us what Isreal has done aside flatten Gaza
“ And you have struggled to cope”. That’s a genius way to end an argument.
He was brilliant there.
@@hastyhalfwit6637 so stunning and brave
@hastyhalfwit6637 dear lord! Sounds like the school playground!
Lovely jubbly
@@annmcevoy5686 pointing out somebody made a fool of themselves and sounded unhinged is playground? No, it's called holding people accountable for the nonsense they speak and holding a mirror up so they hopefully recognise it. They won't of course, they rarely do.
Thank you, James O'Brien for insisting on holding your caller accountable for her untruthful claims!
The idea that Israel has not broken international law in its treatment of Palestinians is absurd. You could write a book detailing it.
And many have been written
Its not breaking he law if it is necessary
@@trickslies844 It is
@@trickslies844 by what definition is stealing Internationally recognised lands by force for religious ideology considered necessary? And breaches of international law are still breaches unless such caveats are written in the law.
@@trickslies844This is exactly it - “law for thee but not for me.” Israel’s supporters at this point do not believe Israel has an obligation to obey international law.
Evil woman.
someone on radio tonight was complaining about James. We should support James.
She is without a shadow of a doubt
Wouldn’t say that fellah,
Unwavering maybe
Holly got unhinged real quick.
That’s zios for you
Holly is being so honest & straightforward. no point arguing with anti senites.
israel us the most moral army. hamas gets away with everything!!
ALL THE DEATHS Is hamas fault. period.
ceasefire ?? that's giving hamas what they want!!!!!
@@goldielipschitz1860 Are you alright?
@@goldielipschitz1860 So then help her out, prove one of her points. This should be easy.. I almost felt embarrassed for her, she failed so bad.
@@goldielipschitz1860🤡
Palestinian have right to defend themselves!!!!
If anyone wondered what Zionism is all about, that person is the prime example.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
What national pride, yes that's so evil.
spot on
entitlement is all it has ever been about.
She's demented. Israel has NOT upheld international law. Just saying they have doesn't make it true. I hate callers like this. Expects to be able to spout off without interruption. She says something that isnt true and expects to just be able to carry on unchallenged. Every time he challenges her she switches topic. Cut her off.
Why should anyone follow international law? If Hamas won’t in the first place why should Isreal or the US?
@@MrWhitmen1981Well Hamas is a designated terror organisation for exactly that reason. If the US and Israel do exactly that, then they should be put in the terrorist organisations list as well.
@MrWhitmen1981 It's the difference between a terrorist organization and a democratic state, I guess...
Anyone who wants to speak nonsense and not be challenged on it, is calling the wrong show if they’re ringing James O’Brien.
No one follows international really, they claim too but they don't.
Why should we support Israel at all?
I give up.
I don't and never will
@AndrewSmith45-m9v
Our ally
@@eddiecalderone before or after they hanged British soldiers in Israel?
@@eddiecalderone Change allies then.
I can't decide whether Holly is a sociopath or psychopath..
_Any thoughts?_
Sociopath who will one day be a psychopath with a high level government job or a lobbyist.
Both!
Stop the arms stop the madness
Will you stop iran supplying weapons to hamas?
Madness is starting a fight you can't win, with people you rely on. Madness is refusing to surrender when losing and accepting only the complete destruction of a people as a success. Madness is openly turning your childeren in to soldiers and then complaining when they get treated like them.
@@Myrtle43 Should we be using Iran as a basis for how to behave? Just adopt their laws? It is an interesting idea but not sure that I'd be fully into it tbh.
UK arms sales make up a whopping +/- 0.3% of Israeli arms imports. 99% of Israeli arms are imported from the US and Germany, the US delivering twice as much as Germany. The UK is utterly irrelevant when it comes to Israel's military.
That is what the Israelis have been trying to do for the last 19 years. They have been trying to stop the arms getting into Gaza.
I love the way she labels Hamas as genocidal maniacs.... let's face it... the IDF, Netanyahu and those digusting settlers are MUCH more deserving of this label
Can you just explain this to me because the combatant to militant death ratio is in line with all urban conflicts of the past and that’s if you take Hamas’ numbers, all while Hamas are trying to maximise civilian casualties on their own side; has there ever been a war in history where one side has been solely responsible for the civilians not only on their own side but on the opposing side as well with international scrutiny no nation has ever faced in a war before
@@jamesjarvis530 Garbage. The Hamas numbers are confirmed deaths from a non-functioning health ministry and do not include the missing. The death rate is at least double. Along with 250k deaths from illnesses left untreated.
@@jamesjarvis530 Could you just explain grammar to me? :D
@@jamesjarvis530 Victim blaming.. The only side thats maximizing civilian deaths is Israel. No hostage deals because the previous hostages released praised Hamas for their hospitality.
@@jamesjarvis530Who told you that, Netanyahu? If over half of the dead are women and children, and not all of the men killed will be Hamas, how do you work out that half of the of the casualties are Hamas? That just doesn't compute.
Hypocrites are being exposed. Their true colors are showing
In the case the other side is too
@@PaulHolland-zo6lwhe’s not talking about the other side so stick to the topic.
Justice must prevail free Palestine
That was painful to watch.
Free the people of Palestine 🇵🇸
Ameen
Great presentation of how unhinged any support for this genocidal regime is.
Unhinged from reality yes, but she's also radicalised.
I do not understand where all this hate comes from ,or more importantly what it will achieve other than more hate and deaths.
100%
@@JohnPark-xf2gq
Simply put, Zionist look down on everyone, they believe they are the chosen people..
@@JohnPark-xf2gq
Most have been brainwashed since birth..
“Any killing is too much. But also let’s give unwavering support for those doing the killing”. These people are unreal. As in, it’s literally hard to believe they exist.
Civilisation has quite a way to go yet, it's still a work in progress!
The caller is talking tosh The occupation entity breaks international law on a daily basis.
Wow, absolutely deranged. As has been said, outraged by everything, ashamed of nothing.
Why doesnt holly condemn the brutal occupation of Palestine that has gone on for 75 years
Occupation? Where and from whom? You have me intrigued now.
@@Canvashedtake your head from out your backside so might see something other that your own sheTT
@@Canvashed Intrigue will lead you to the UN and many other international orgs plus international law. Enjoy your intrigue
@@Canvashed why do you think yitzhak rabin was assassinated and who was inciting for the killing of the Prime minister that signed a peace treaty with the Palestinians?
Why doesnt James condemn the brutal occupation of Palestine that has gone on for 3000 years?
I don't support Israel in this conflict and never will. Now go and call me an anti-semite
I don’t support Hamas in this conflict and never will .Now go and call me anti-Muslim !
@@robertreynolds2702It's 13 to 1 thus far 😂
@@robertreynolds2702 No one has called anyone antimuslim for not supporting them. However, you can clearly see what happens if you don't support the illegal state.
@@robertreynolds2702unless you are connecting the whole of the Palestinians as Hamas. That is the disconnect with this collective punishment allowance How do you REALLY feel?
I'd say "Terror supporter" fits more than antisemitic
An excellent example of why you can’t argue with ignorance. They just don’t know…
The UK should never pledge unwavering support to any ally. A nation should always support their allies but unwavering gives no room for manoeuvre.
How is Israel our ally? What do they do for us?
@@Kenbrown130 West are allies with them for simple reason, Iran, they are seen as a counter to them within the region.
@@cup1966wow What i never understood is why we can't just be friends with Iran instead... I mean honestly before WE started to meddle with their regime, Iran was a progressive nation. But ever since Iran wanted to have the rights to their own oil reserves we have been constantly meddling there which may or may not have caused this current backwards regime to emerge.
@@magnuscarlsson9969 A big part of why Iran changed is because of the Iranian revolution.
Issue is OPEC have not helped themself, their manipulation of oil prices has a direct effect on western countries. Almost came to blows in the 70s because of it.
But as to situation now its a tough balance, Iran are involved in a lot of activities which affect western countries plans, hence all the embargos.
To change the direction that Iran is going won't be easy, especially as they are unlikely to want to change while embargos are in place.
@@cup1966wow The Irony is that Iran in its current form was indirectly the result of US intervention in the region.
It seems straightforward. If there are suspected breaches of international law going on, you should suspend sales pending investigation. Now review all the other countries we sell arms to as well.
So now its a problem.
If we did that we would have no allies left. This isn't about law. The UK gov don't care about international law. They care about the optics of breaking it. The US can no longer fool people into thinking they are doing right by Gaza so their lapdog, Whitehall, is now crapping itself in case it becomes a pariah state complicit in human rights abuses
@@keirmitchell5560 it has ALWAYS been a problem
There has been various investigations by different international law bodies, and despite their hardest efforts, they can find no evidence of Israel breaking international law.
Sure as long as you apply to the same standards to charities, religious organisations and individuals suspected of similar offences .....
“Because Hamas exists!!!” , does the caller not know that Israel propped up support of Hamas? I’d love to ask her why she thinks that is.
This Woman zero interest in knowing what has really happened.
Absolutely! And the person who was responsible? None other than the current Israeli prime minister.
Truth! Unbelievable amount of truth.
I love James. He's awesome 👍👍👍Keep it up mate
Also, are the teenage boys and girls detained by Israel without charges being subjected to the horrific conditions described by Human Rights Watch (founded, of course, by a Holocaust survivor) in their last week's report?
Have you seen why? Often they are detained because Hamas is forcing them to walk towards Israeli troops with bombs strapped to them…. They know they are not ‘guilty’ they are indoctrinated
Holly doesn’t think they matter. Holly thinks only the israeli hostages matter
Why don't you shut up James
@@rosequincey2835 Holly, is that you?
"Horrific condition" would they rather join the refugees? How is humus treating its detainees? Oh right you don't care about those lives
What a shocking excuse of a woman
Shame on you
she has nothing to be ashamed about she told the truth and the truth hurts to bad
It is James who is shocking. A coward and BULLY who can't engage in a debate when he knows that he is going to lose.
@@Andrew4Handel He engaged perfectly, and you're an israel bot
@@IzinTheBzin you,re a hamas bot
@@brentmarr1331 what's next you're gonna call me anti Semitic 😂😂 those are the only two moves of the Israel bot
O'Brian is a voice of reason, like a drop of water in the desert. Thank you sir!
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She's offended someone is calling her out on truths. LOL...
Hamas exists as a result of the terrorist state of Israel committing 75 years of war crimes against the Palestinian people. As she feels the need to scream "Hamas exists" repeatedly so maybe she needs to know why they exist.
Depends how far back in history you want to go... tbf. 75 years is a blink of an eye to the sentiments in that area.
@@robfarmer9272 yeah Palestine was where the philistines come from in biblical times it was basically just desert
Hamas exist because of parts of the Koran and Hadith and its views on Jews.
Except that the Palestinians hatred toward Jews predates the creation of Israel. Also its not like the neighbouring countries where Israel does not exist are any better.
@@trickslies844that’s a bold face lie… Jews lived peacefully in Palestine before Israel was created… and that’s backed by historic evidence.
Please don’t lie, it irks me when uneducated people lie and have the audacity to act like a know it all 🫤
Wow. Holly is an embarrassment to her friends & family
and tribe
…and her self.
To humanity
She's evil. Imagine being that person... Yikes.
Just deeply indoctrinated.
Can you imagine being married to that 😮can you imagine ever crossing it 🤯
Surah Al-Baqarah 2.11 - When they are told, “Do not spread corruption in the land,” they reply, “We are only peace-makers!”
Caller 1 : Don’t you think that Israel allowing polio vaccination is to prevent it spreading to Israel which would cause more domestic trouble for him.
They could choose to only vaccinate their side
@@hg_rebase Still wouldn't prevent it from spreading completely. Think anti-vaxxers, medically exempt, less than 100% effectiveness.
Way more effective to vaccinate at source
@@hg_rebaseso you believe israelis CARE about palestinian children 🤔 strange logic.
@@hg_rebasethat wouldn’t stop polio though or every vaccine in the world would work for the rich if they just supplied the people who could pay. It usually takes over around 70% vaccination rates at least for herd immunity but I think it’s something like 80% for polio or well over 90 for measles.
If I was Palestinian I would not trust what is in that polio vaccine
Cancelling 30 out of 350 licenses is less than 10% . Starmer is taking us all for fools. He has basically done nothing
Yet the other side argue he’s done too much by that act. Funny isn’t it!
Thank you James for being human ❤❤❤
She is Pure evil!
James O'Brien' is honestly the hero the UK doesn't deserve.
I wouldn't go that far. Especially in this clip, he is not very rational, just shouting and not listening... he's a bit like a hysterical clown.
And that's coming from someone that 8s on the same side, acknowledging Israel's crimes in the middle east.
@@alexmurgan1550nah think he handled her as she should have been called out
The ‘Jobby’ is an Iranian regime, “Hero”
@@maggieedward3951 "she should have been called out"
She should. But this isn't calling her out, this is just childish. Let her finish her argument, then challenge her on it.
@@chaoscarl8414 that's exactly what someone that's gish galloping wants though.
"we've established that your ears dont operate in ways that most people recognise" GOLD FROM JAMES🤣🤣🤣
The first caller holly… absolutely scary
James handled her so well…
No he didn’t, O’Brien is a prat.
There only was crazy holly 😂 that's how bad it was
@@TheDriftwood7 hate to think what you are then 😂
James O'Brien gaslighted her, misquoted her and was mocking her. He is obnoxious at times and needs to be called out. As for the overwhelming comments of support for O'Brien , this tells us of the problem this country is having.
@@JOSHUA-hs4zt I guess we didn’t watch the same clip.
James exposed her.
That is all.
Im sick of the lot of it. Every human is equal. Every life is precious
She is sick and needs help.