@zanethind that's what he's referring too. Before that moment with randy, Kofi was set for a big main event push, after, it diminished it pretty much out of existence.
Paul seems like a genuinely good guy. He got cheated on by Ashley with Matt Hardy and still has only nice things to say about her. He also trashed The Undertaker and his 'Wrestlers Court' for waking everyone up at 3 in the morning, to try and make Melina cry for forgetting to shake some other girls hand or something, and making the other wrestlers and Melina's "friends" make bets for how long it would take her to break.
@@WolfPackNV Booker was champ going in and had to endure some BS to ever get it again. Benoit, Jericho, and Eddie had an easier time since they went to wwe before the buyout. And Goldberg demanded a title reign to sign and Vince wanted money.
@@WolfPackNV Guys like Jericho, Benoit and Guerrero jumped ship damn near at the height of the war so it’s likely Vince treated them favorably right away because of that. Where as guys like Booker and DDP were absorbed in the buyout so it was like Vince wanted to make a point to bury them. Then you have someone like Goldberg who Vince actually couldn’t wait to get his hands on but was actually contracted directly to Turner (like Hogan, Nash, Sting, etc), so they sat out till the contract was up and then signed
Yeah I know right I wish more WWE employee at time pissed off Vince if maybe they pissed him off enough maybe he would have retired hell of a lot sooner that would have been so fucking nice .
It wasn't his head, Randy had a history of shoulder injuries. I think he landed too hard on a previous shoulder injury. You can tell by his reaction, he was legit pissed off that Kennedy didn't protect him lol
After all these years I still can't figure out how Mr Kennedy "botched" that suplex on Randy Orton... I mean it seems to me that his head didn't even touch the mat
Yea exactly, there were many other suplexes where other wrestlers landed awkwardly, but were not injured or hurt at all… I think there were some backstage politics done, most likely Orton didn’t like Kennedy, and he found a way to fire Kennedy on purpose
Orton just had surgery or a shoulder injury or was recovering from one iirc and he claims Kennedy dropped him on his bum shoulder. Orton just seened like a diva tbh…
There's a whole video about wrestlers wanting Kennedy fired and they were looking for reasons.... Orton took it upon himself as locker room leader to make sure Kennedy is fired
He had all the tools except the political skills backstage. He was rising through the ranks but Orton really didn’t like him and all it took was one Hogan-esque claim of getting hurt during a spot, which Orton was also to blame for, and using that to get him fired.
The Taker spot was ridiculous. Trained or not, expecting a guy to perfectly time dropping his camera and safely catch a guy the size of the Undertaker is a huge ask. Taker was over-rotated too, hence why landing on his head was even a risk. The spot shouldn't have been pitched, and Snuka shouldn't have agreed to it.
Yeah, the only way it could've been safe is if Snuka chucked the Camera away really early but that wouldn't look legitimate. It's a bad idea all round.
Agreed it was a messed up scenario, taker didn’t even jump far enough, and that makes it almost impossible for him to get caught unless there is someone right under him
@@CatAdventures-c7k that’s what I’m saying it’s like they won’t put the blame on undertaker or Shawn because it’s bad for business for whatever the case may be idk some BS, unless snuka was too far away from the start then i guess you can blame him
Snuka can't chuck the camera because Shawn is pulling on him. It's this aspect that makes the spot practically impossible short a miracle. Anybody with a handful of healthy brain cells should have told Taker to stick to the moves he can actually pull off.
1. Perry Saturn (shooting on Mike Bell) 2. Jackie Gayda (that 2002 mixed tag team match) 3. Undertaker and Goldberg (Super Showdown 2019) 4. Mickie James (Wrestlemania 22)
The kennedy spot is crazy because on replay you can clearly see that Orton's head never even touched the mat. It looked like a completely clean spot and i truly think Orton just had it out for Kennedy and had the pull to get rid of him. Which is a bummer because i was always a big fan of Mr. Kennedy... Kennedy😅
this UA-camr mixed it up. Orton had actually asked Kennedy to not drop him on his shoulders as he had a pretty bad shoulder then. But Kennedy did so. In the full clip, Randy's pain and anger expressions immediately after the drop was legitimate.
Hearing both sides, seems more like both of them messed up. Kennedy didn’t really think much of what Randy instructed him on then Randy also exaggerated the spot which led to him landing it worse. The difference was, Randy had the political clout to get back at Kennedy in the worst way possible.
@@AxleTradeYou're doing a suplex and you're told to not throw a guy on his shoulder. It's so fucking easy to not throw someone on their shoulder when you're a professional wrestler and he did it. It's not like Orton asked to not take a facebump on a DDT, if you're suplexing a guy on their shoulders you already nearly fucked it up.
The Kenedy thing was the final straw. He kept getting hurt. But when you look at that suplex, it looks perfectly fine. It doesn't look like Ken landed him on his head.
the narrator was mixed up he recently had shoulder surgery and asked kennedy not to do any moves that makes him land on his shoulders still no reason to get him fired but it was legit petty anger
It was definitely not about Orton's head. The camera angle is bad, but watching it frame by frame, you can tell that Randy lands very off-center, so that perhaps one half of his upper back landed first, as opposed to a flat bump. The comment above me talking about a shoulder surgery supports that. I can totally understand, too - both my shoulders are fucked (I couldn't afford the surgeries) and I have to try to sleep on my back, which is very hard.
Remember when Titus O’Neil reached out and grabbed Vince’s arm during a Raw segment and he got a 60-day suspension? Also, remember during the pandemic on RAW when I think Seth forgot to grab Montez Ford’s leg when he was running the ropes? Montez continued running and did a over the top rope backflip and landed on his back.
@@billblaski9523 when we heard the bang I really thought he broke his back because he landed on the metal ramp. Crazy, because no one caught him at all to even break the fall.
That back suplex from Kennedy looked fine. I mean, Orton could have landed a little flatter. But he still landed on his back/shoulders. That’s a pretty safe bump. He definitely didn’t drop him on his head. Crazy that Orton got him fired for that
In regards to that EC match where Mark Henry's pod was opened, I honestly don't get why Mark didn't just shrug and stay in the pod. Even with the door opened, story line wise all Mark has to say is "No, the rule is I can come out when the spot light falls on me, and so I'm going to just stand here in my pod and not do anything. Why would I not only break the rules of the match, but go out and fight when I don't have to! I'll stay in my pod and let them continue to beat the crap out of each other, then when it's my turn I get to pick the bones!" SIMPLE. Yeah it might be odd that he could go out and people would not attack him but I mean come on, a few seconds of planning or thinking solved the probem.
I could see someone like a heel Edge doing that since he was opportunistic, or a baby face. But that would go against Henry's character of just wanting to inflict pain. I think the ref should have forced Henry to not enter despite the broken pod or else he'd be disqualified. That way it doesn't take away from his character and saves the botch.
@@ggsimmonds1 I'd say the opposite. A heel generally wants to avoid direct conflicts and only cheap shot, so if a heel he could have pretended like he was staying in the pod then get little cheap shots. A babyface would want to get his hands on whoever he was feuding with.
@@mattm7798 Depends on the build up. If its a heavy feud with another participant then yes the face would definitely go at it. I think ohmy has it best, the ref should have stepped in
It wasn't snukas fault. Undertaker didn't clear the ropes properly so he landed further back than what he was supposed to. Snuka couldn't do anything else.
I was going to say that too, that spot had to have been practiced over and over. It looked like Shawn had the responsibility of placing Snuka where he needed to be and Taker just kinda of missed
Yeah, remember seeing that match the first time and I thaught exactly that, Taker didnt jump enough, and not HBK nor Snuka were close enough to the spot where he would have landed
@@EpicPour99Spot got practiced over and over? Undertaker was NOT flipping out of the ring up until match time. This spot did not get practiced. In fact, it's a clear case of a theory not working in practice. Shawn pulling on Snuka would have likely destroyed the spot in the best of circumstances as it kept Snuka from being able to ditch the camera fast enough. Snuka, having his hands full and being pulled, means he needs to regain his balance. This closes the window any time remaining that he would've had to catch Taker and made it more difficult to dump the camera.
And yet when Randy dropped someone on their head onto an announcer table, nothing happened. It's crazy how much power some wrestlers had/have to instantly destroy someone's career with backstage politics
This is the real reason his career died. You can't tell me otherwise. Sure the botch happened, but nobody wants to work with a person who smells like vomit.
HBK was indeed a perfectionist, I get that he has high standards, but you gotta sell the moves. HBK not shaking your hand and giving you that side glance, like yeah you messed up and ruined what could have been a classic match of all time. I get that.
The thing about the Miz was back in the day, he was notorious for not catching people when they were doing a dive. I still remember the Night of Champions PPV where Daniel Bryan did a dive threw the ropes and he hit more of the barricade than he did the Miz.
Hmm...the Sim Snuka thing is weird. Not entirely his fault. It honestly looks like he was in the right spot, but Taker's dive didnt get the distance it was meant to, forcing Snuka to dive forward to try to catch him. Still sucks, but yeah, can't put that 100% on him
In Slow-Mo rig 6:24 . It does not even look like Orton's head hits the ground. Orton protected himself but made it look potentially dangerous. This was Orton protecting his spot in the hierarchy from competition, thats all.
I dunno about that - Enzo and Cass were incredibly popular, and while he didn't win the WWE Championship, he got a few opportunities. AEW crowds do love Big Bill, but he's not really done much that he didn't already do in WWE. He looks happier though
Did anyone else hear "Number 3 Big Cass The Beatdown" and automatically think they were going to discuss the moment when Big Cass turned on Enzo? Side note: I wasn't looking at the screen in that moment, so I didn't see the Mini DB still image. 😂😂😂
obviously not a professional myself but especially in the slow mo of it it looks absolutely like randy just lands on his shoulderblades, doesn't look like his head makes any contact with the mat whatsoever
EXACTLY!!! It had already been reported from several wrestling sites that both Cena & Orton were jealous of Mr. Kennedy in the first place! I'm personally not one to believe any of those sites, but when I saw what happened next with him, that's when I knew it was true!
Exactly. I’ve seen this spot mentioned multiple times, but Kennedy didn’t do anything wrong. Orton clearly oversold the thing and just landed on his shoulders, I’ve seen way worse bumps taken.
to be fair to Snuka .... he was carrying a heavy camera he had to "put down" first and it seemed HBK pulled him (from the entrance) too far to the left ... and he (though it's hard to judge how far the jump would go) was already too far back from the ring
Thats because it wasnt his head, it was his shoulder/back that Orton was already having trouble with. And even then, yeah, looks pretty standard. I think Randy just caught a stinger and decided to be a diva about.
Vince hates it when a gimmick gets over with the crowd that he didn't come up with.... That bump was just the excuse he was looking for to get rid of Mr Kennedy
That was not entirely Kennedy’s fault. And hot take, I remember Big Cass’s segment. The story was already unnecessarily bad, as everyone HATED the team splitting up because they were undeniably popular. WWE ruined their careers with another overused generic betrayal storyline. Cass was getting booed left and right and being tested since he had never held the center stage before. He gave the big boot, but that was it. And he continued because awkward, empty silence was creeping in. That's when a segment fails entirely because you're getting no reaction. That's why I think he did a lot more than needed because it would have been as lame as Alexa Bliss’s “This Is Your Life” segment. WWE is not the land of opportunity anymore. Depending on them (mostly) you can either sink or swim.
Kennedy wasn't fired just because of the orton botch. He had a few injuries, had multiple wellness violations, and had a poor attitude. In his own words, the randy thing was just the straw that broke the camels back.
It's ridiculous to get fired for that considering all the other things that have happened on WWE TV in its collective history, but I guarantee if it was someone Vince actually liked or was close with he would have seen it as a rib instead. Still an insecure bitch regardless
You're an actor right? You're told its a serious scene, be serious. You smile. You did literally the exact opposite that the job called for. You get fired. Make sense?
I know it was spur of the moment, but Henry could have feigned injury during the pod collision and just withered in “pain” in the pod until it was his turn to go…
Sim sunka I don’t blame him at all, taker didn’t fly over the ropes high enough and Shawn grabbed him, plus he was holding a camera? Who ever came up with that spot was a complete idiot.
IMO the best one of all, for real, no memes or BS in this post, is Booker's "HULK HOGAN, WE COMIN' AFTER YOU NI-" So just watch the clip. Go do it, look it up and come back, I'll wait :) Even if you've seen it, go watch it again! - Now replay it, and this time, look only at Booker. Look in his eyes and at his body language, he IMMEDIATELY knows he just screwed up. There's an interview about this promo and Booker said he thought he was going to get fired the MOMENT he got backstage. - Now replay it again and watch Sherri. She starts patting Booker's back and comforting him, she said something like "it'll be okay" to him iirc - Now replay it again and only watch Stevie. He said he was focusing on just staying in character and looking tough, so he didn't even notice it - And finally one more time and just watch Gene lmao. Doesn't break at all. Class act. RIP to my favorite interviewer. Even better than Roddy, I LOVE Gene's character work.
5. And now Miz has been on more than one occasion paired with R-Truth for the rest of his career. 6. I truly believe this missed spot shortened what was left of Taker's career.
Glad that Orton eased up over the years because back then especially in the mid to late 2000s, he was a major brat. He was always angry backstage and often overreacts to things that were simple mistakes.
Honestly, WWE can be really petty. In that business, where everything is live, you can't expect there to not be any mistakes. In certain industries, mistakes can end REALLY badly and in an industry where your job is to have epic, somewhat choreographed fights that incorporate a lot of acrobatics and a single sequence can incorporate a combination of moves, mistakes are inevitable. As someone who has performed in the minutely slightly safer music industry, I know the amount of mistakes made in a single performance is huge, but even people who are also performers can't spot them and I know it's more than likely the same in wrestling. As in, we notice the big mistakes, most people will have no clue that a dozen other mistakes were made. The point is, mistakes happen. The only reason it should effect your career is if the mistakes are regular and/or obvious negligence.
I had to watch that a couple of times to understand. So, apparently, in a match against Taker, DDP didn't cooperate in taking multiple bumps (and get ups) in succession as a "comeback" spot for Taker. Whether it was intentional or DDP not realizing/remembering he was supposed to do it was not mentioned.
Cass was already Disliked because of a backstage incident with Carmella and the USOs. Him going off script just made him look like Enzo. I believe Vince set the whole little person segment up just to get rid of him.
It took Kofi 9 years to recover from that "STUPID! STUPID"
Long term storytelling
@@tamzidmohsinkhan3333lol
Emotional Damage
Yes for the main event title but no because he had multiple title wins after that
@zanethind that's what he's referring too. Before that moment with randy, Kofi was set for a big main event push, after, it diminished it pretty much out of existence.
Paul London smiling at Vince was hilarious
Vince- "you like to smile huh? Well you should be because YOUR FIRED!"
@Boom46-j5w and then Vince like the true clown he is got himself fired from WWE years later for being a pervert.
Yes I loved it
Paul seems like a genuinely good guy. He got cheated on by Ashley with Matt Hardy and still has only nice things to say about her.
He also trashed The Undertaker and his 'Wrestlers Court' for waking everyone up at 3 in the morning, to try and make Melina cry for forgetting to shake some other girls hand or something, and making the other wrestlers and Melina's "friends" make bets for how long it would take her to break.
Didn’t Paul do this after he found out that some of the divas, especially Ashley, were being forced into a prostitution ring of sorts by Vince?
Stupid Stupid Stupid is iconic
A lot better than the stuff hulk Hogan would say LOL
I'll take the stupid stupid LOL
I remember when I was younger and watched that, I was like "you just hit him with the RKO why are you calling him stupid?" lol
@@zeospark9715 No Fr me when I first heard about this
In an alternate universe: “SMART! SMART! SMART!”
I’m still trying to figure out what Kofi did tho
Funny thing is, Brock Lesnar is relatively safe in the ring but if you stiffed him, he wouldn't hesitate to stiff you back.
Safe in the ring dangerous outside
Yeah. But he wouldn't murder you. Just give you a big message
Well stiffing someone back is traditional wrestling practice. So idk why people see issues with him doing it to Braun
I love Braun for his comments, standup guy
@@JShadow6661 right ! Even Taker, who’s one of the safest and most reliable workers, would definitely give someone a receipt for stiffing him
OK no DDP's career ended because Vince booked him to look like an idiot. Just like he did all the old WCW wrestlers. Not because of some no sell.
Exactly
Thank you
Goldberg booker Jericho Eddie benoit all became champions
@@WolfPackNV Booker was champ going in and had to endure some BS to ever get it again. Benoit, Jericho, and Eddie had an easier time since they went to wwe before the buyout. And Goldberg demanded a title reign to sign and Vince wanted money.
@@WolfPackNV Guys like Jericho, Benoit and Guerrero jumped ship damn near at the height of the war so it’s likely Vince treated them favorably right away because of that. Where as guys like Booker and DDP were absorbed in the buyout so it was like Vince wanted to make a point to bury them. Then you have someone like Goldberg who Vince actually couldn’t wait to get his hands on but was actually contracted directly to Turner (like Hogan, Nash, Sting, etc), so they sat out till the contract was up and then signed
Vince in the thumbnail losing his mind like you f'ed up DAMMIT 😂
Yeah I know right I wish more WWE employee at time pissed off Vince if maybe they pissed him off enough maybe he would have retired hell of a lot sooner that would have been so fucking nice .
Mark Henry standing there and asking each wrestler on what to do next would have been really funny
True but how funny would it have been if he picked up the glass/plastic and held it there like nothing happened 😂
@@rossrobertson674 lol. seriously funny
@@rossrobertson674 I am not getting out unless someone tells me what I am supposed to do.
@@subusrable I was laughing just laughing at the thought of Mark holding it while looking angry and wanting out 😂
6:28. That doesn't look like anywhere near landing on his head. That's as flat on his back as it gets.
Randy just didn’t like him. He and John conspired against him
Play it back, very final frame of 6:13. Randy does indeed hit head first. That's an ugly landing, but an honest mistake.
Played it at .25 speed and his head never hit the mat lol@@superbaas8822
It wasn't his head, Randy had a history of shoulder injuries. I think he landed too hard on a previous shoulder injury. You can tell by his reaction, he was legit pissed off that Kennedy didn't protect him lol
@@superbaas8822either you need glasses or I do because I slowed the video down and his head still never touched the mat
Paul London is just happy to see his boss 😂
😅😅
1:21 we took a inch from each other is wild but that’s great they got things on hood terms
Yeah that was crazy 😂😂😂😂😂
Oh yeah because Braun and Brock are the personifications of the Hood😂😂
Hey man, sometimes you just gotta take an inch from another man from time to time 😂😂
Pause
It happens
Paul London smiling is the equivalent of the current Enzo Amore recent firing.
recent = 6+ years ago
After all these years I still can't figure out how Mr Kennedy "botched" that suplex on Randy Orton... I mean it seems to me that his head didn't even touch the mat
Yea exactly, there were many other suplexes where other wrestlers landed awkwardly, but were not injured or hurt at all… I think there were some backstage politics done, most likely Orton didn’t like Kennedy, and he found a way to fire Kennedy on purpose
Orton just had surgery or a shoulder injury or was recovering from one iirc and he claims Kennedy dropped him on his bum shoulder. Orton just seened like a diva tbh…
@alexmartin3143 so if he has dropped him on his head you could argue he was protecting the shoulder!
There's a whole video about wrestlers wanting Kennedy fired and they were looking for reasons.... Orton took it upon himself as locker room leader to make sure Kennedy is fired
Kennedy had all the tools in the world to be world champion but his beef with Cena and Orton destroyed all of that
he hurt too many wrestlers
He had all the tools except the political skills backstage. He was rising through the ranks but Orton really didn’t like him and all it took was one Hogan-esque claim of getting hurt during a spot, which Orton was also to blame for, and using that to get him fired.
@@AxleTrade definitely Ortons fault
The Taker spot was ridiculous. Trained or not, expecting a guy to perfectly time dropping his camera and safely catch a guy the size of the Undertaker is a huge ask. Taker was over-rotated too, hence why landing on his head was even a risk. The spot shouldn't have been pitched, and Snuka shouldn't have agreed to it.
Yeah, the only way it could've been safe is if Snuka chucked the Camera away really early but that wouldn't look legitimate. It's a bad idea all round.
true. I blame Taker.
Agreed it was a messed up scenario, taker didn’t even jump far enough, and that makes it almost impossible for him to get caught unless there is someone right under him
@@CatAdventures-c7k that’s what I’m saying it’s like they won’t put the blame on undertaker or Shawn because it’s bad for business for whatever the case may be idk some BS, unless snuka was too far away from the start then i guess you can blame him
Snuka can't chuck the camera because Shawn is pulling on him. It's this aspect that makes the spot practically impossible short a miracle. Anybody with a handful of healthy brain cells should have told Taker to stick to the moves he can actually pull off.
Shawn Michaels badly buried Vader . RIP
Yeah, Vader could have easily been a great heel champ for a bit.
Micheals himself was a total unprofessional and should have been canceled for his behavior.
1. Perry Saturn (shooting on Mike Bell)
2. Jackie Gayda (that 2002 mixed tag team match)
3. Undertaker and Goldberg (Super Showdown 2019)
4. Mickie James (Wrestlemania 22)
3rd is funny as they Goldberg title shot after that
The kennedy spot is crazy because on replay you can clearly see that Orton's head never even touched the mat. It looked like a completely clean spot and i truly think Orton just had it out for Kennedy and had the pull to get rid of him. Which is a bummer because i was always a big fan of Mr. Kennedy... Kennedy😅
this UA-camr mixed it up. Orton had actually asked Kennedy to not drop him on his shoulders as he had a pretty bad shoulder then. But Kennedy did so. In the full clip, Randy's pain and anger expressions immediately after the drop was legitimate.
@@karrr1573 people think the ring canvas is like a fluffy pillow
Hearing both sides, seems more like both of them messed up. Kennedy didn’t really think much of what Randy instructed him on then Randy also exaggerated the spot which led to him landing it worse.
The difference was, Randy had the political clout to get back at Kennedy in the worst way possible.
@@AxleTradeYou're doing a suplex and you're told to not throw a guy on his shoulder. It's so fucking easy to not throw someone on their shoulder when you're a professional wrestler and he did it. It's not like Orton asked to not take a facebump on a DDT, if you're suplexing a guy on their shoulders you already nearly fucked it up.
Randy Orton's a baby
DDP got wasted in WWF badly
nah he was always overrated
Looking back at that incident, It makes you appreciate it even more that they actually gave Kofi the chance to win the WWE title in 2019.
Nobody asked ANY of u for your opinion about his title run 🤡
Just a bunch of RWT as usual!
Kofi, the worst WWE Championship alongside Damien Pries in history
Guys I think Devante is angry@@DevanteMcDaniel
@@DevanteMcDaniel nobody asked for your opinion, but you gave it anyway, such a hypocrite
@@axxjazz.
U still mad about a video from a month ago! Says alot about u! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🙄
Sim Snuka was lucky to witness Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels match at WM 25
and then almost end undertaker's career...
And he almost let Taker break his neck
@@Kingofb0ngstyle Taker almost break himself
The Kenedy thing was the final straw. He kept getting hurt. But when you look at that suplex, it looks perfectly fine. It doesn't look like Ken landed him on his head.
Very little wrong with Kennedys suplex technique there if u watch closely. Orton appeared more careless
Yeah 2009 Orton was the equivalent of 1990s Shawn
Orton looked to land on his back mostly, so I don't see much issue.
@@kevinkeane254 Yeah, I watched the match, Orton's head didn't even touch the mat.
the narrator was mixed up he recently had shoulder surgery and asked kennedy not to do any moves that makes him land on his shoulders still no reason to get him fired but it was legit petty anger
It was definitely not about Orton's head. The camera angle is bad, but watching it frame by frame, you can tell that Randy lands very off-center, so that perhaps one half of his upper back landed first, as opposed to a flat bump. The comment above me talking about a shoulder surgery supports that. I can totally understand, too - both my shoulders are fucked (I couldn't afford the surgeries) and I have to try to sleep on my back, which is very hard.
If Vader wanted to, he would've wasted Shawn on the spot. Just goes to show how loyal he was to the business. R.I.P.
Remember when Titus O’Neil reached out and grabbed Vince’s arm during a Raw segment and he got a 60-day suspension?
Also, remember during the pandemic on RAW when I think Seth forgot to grab Montez Ford’s leg when he was running the ropes? Montez continued running and did a over the top rope backflip and landed on his back.
Lmao "Wrestlemania!!!"
Then a second later we hear a loud "BANG!!" when he lands on the steel ramp😂
@@billblaski9523 when we heard the bang I really thought he broke his back because he landed on the metal ramp. Crazy, because no one caught him at all to even break the fall.
That back suplex from Kennedy looked fine. I mean, Orton could have landed a little flatter. But he still landed on his back/shoulders. That’s a pretty safe bump. He definitely didn’t drop him on his head. Crazy that Orton got him fired for that
In regards to that EC match where Mark Henry's pod was opened, I honestly don't get why Mark didn't just shrug and stay in the pod. Even with the door opened, story line wise all Mark has to say is "No, the rule is I can come out when the spot light falls on me, and so I'm going to just stand here in my pod and not do anything. Why would I not only break the rules of the match, but go out and fight when I don't have to! I'll stay in my pod and let them continue to beat the crap out of each other, then when it's my turn I get to pick the bones!" SIMPLE. Yeah it might be odd that he could go out and people would not attack him but I mean come on, a few seconds of planning or thinking solved the probem.
Was Mark a heel or face at the time? A heel just staying in the pod would be a complete break of character, but it makes sense for a face
I could see someone like a heel Edge doing that since he was opportunistic, or a baby face. But that would go against Henry's character of just wanting to inflict pain. I think the ref should have forced Henry to not enter despite the broken pod or else he'd be disqualified. That way it doesn't take away from his character and saves the botch.
@@ggsimmonds1 I'd say the opposite. A heel generally wants to avoid direct conflicts and only cheap shot, so if a heel he could have pretended like he was staying in the pod then get little cheap shots. A babyface would want to get his hands on whoever he was feuding with.
@@mattm7798 Depends on the build up. If its a heavy feud with another participant then yes the face would definitely go at it. I think ohmy has it best, the ref should have stepped in
@@ggsimmonds1 Not really, heels are cowards all the time, he could have been arrogant and said no need for me to get my hands dirty yet.
5:48 Thanks for reminding me that the Miz failed to catch R-Truth even after explaining it.
Miz burner!
Miz was 🗑
Gotta get the minute count up
John Cena vs Shawn Michaels feud was memorable
Hornswoggle falling asleep under the ring and going up to Taker mid-match saying: "I'mSorrryI'mSorrryI'mSorrryI'mSorrryI'mSorrry..."
That whole thing about DDP is stupid. He was being made a joke of since the get go. That’s not on him, that’s on Vince and Taker.
I’m surprised the 2005 Royal Rumble incident with John Cena and Batista wasn’t put in the video
It wasn't snukas fault. Undertaker didn't clear the ropes properly so he landed further back than what he was supposed to. Snuka couldn't do anything else.
I was going to say that too, that spot had to have been practiced over and over. It looked like Shawn had the responsibility of placing Snuka where he needed to be and Taker just kinda of missed
Yeah, remember seeing that match the first time and I thaught exactly that, Taker didnt jump enough, and not HBK nor Snuka were close enough to the spot where he would have landed
@@EpicPour99Spot got practiced over and over? Undertaker was NOT flipping out of the ring up until match time. This spot did not get practiced. In fact, it's a clear case of a theory not working in practice. Shawn pulling on Snuka would have likely destroyed the spot in the best of circumstances as it kept Snuka from being able to ditch the camera fast enough. Snuka, having his hands full and being pulled, means he needs to regain his balance. This closes the window any time remaining that he would've had to catch Taker and made it more difficult to dump the camera.
I give Michaels some blame for the Snuka botch. It really looks like Michaels pulled him out of position so he couldn't catch Taker.
EXACTLY
No, Shawn pulled him to the left for them to be centered. But snuka was still too far back.
The picture for the video is great .😂😂
HBK was on another level
Im still pissed off how john cena and Randy Orton use they back stage politics to get rid of mr. Kennedy
That's what happens when you're the faces that runs the place. Plus they wouldn't listen to a rookie over a pro.
John Cena was always selfish
And yet when Randy dropped someone on their head onto an announcer table, nothing happened. It's crazy how much power some wrestlers had/have to instantly destroy someone's career with backstage politics
@@aliharis4266 not always and Hogan was even more
@@aliharis4266 Didn't Cena get rid of Alex Riley?
Vader should've washed his ring gear. 🤣😅
This is the real reason his career died. You can't tell me otherwise. Sure the botch happened, but nobody wants to work with a person who smells like vomit.
Love the first one. Guy fked up, got a receipt, both moved on. That's what being a grown up is
Braun Strowman & Brock Lesnar shoot fight was infamous
HBK was indeed a perfectionist, I get that he has high standards, but you gotta sell the moves. HBK not shaking your hand and giving you that side glance, like yeah you messed up and ruined what could have been a classic match of all time. I get that.
It's a shame DDP never got anywhere in WWE, he was so good to watch back in WCW.
The thing about the Miz was back in the day, he was notorious for not catching people when they were doing a dive. I still remember the Night of Champions PPV where Daniel Bryan did a dive threw the ropes and he hit more of the barricade than he did the Miz.
If DDP's WWE run were successful, then it might have affected DDP Yoga's trajectory, which encompasses all the people DDP has helped.
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I would argue undertaker screwed up not snuka
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A similar thing happened to Truth in 2022 when he got injured on NXT when he fell back first onto the floor
Hmm...the Sim Snuka thing is weird. Not entirely his fault. It honestly looks like he was in the right spot, but Taker's dive didnt get the distance it was meant to, forcing Snuka to dive forward to try to catch him. Still sucks, but yeah, can't put that 100% on him
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I’m a massive WWE/WWF fan but I agree with WCW fans when they say that DDP was wasted in WWE
HBK vs Cena was way better than I thought. Their hour Raw match is even better
"Are u stupid or something " - Forrest Gump 😂😂
R Truth vs Miz feud was underrated
In Slow-Mo rig 6:24 . It does not even look like Orton's head hits the ground. Orton protected himself but made it look potentially dangerous. This was Orton protecting his spot in the hierarchy from competition, thats all.
Big Cass run in AEW was better
@@tamzidmohsinkhan3333 Yup
The AEW crowd loves Big Bill
I dunno about that - Enzo and Cass were incredibly popular, and while he didn't win the WWE Championship, he got a few opportunities.
AEW crowds do love Big Bill, but he's not really done much that he didn't already do in WWE. He looks happier though
Did anyone else hear "Number 3 Big Cass The Beatdown" and automatically think they were going to discuss the moment when Big Cass turned on Enzo? Side note: I wasn't looking at the screen in that moment, so I didn't see the Mini DB still image. 😂😂😂
0:25 strowman is probably one of the only guys to take a full strength right from Brock and not be KO’d
I don’t think that was anywhere close to full strength
You think that was full strength? 😂😂😂. Ask Frank mir if that looked full strength.
Elimination Chamber 2015 was forgettable
Michaels himself being unprofessional multiple times and still got to go on without any consequences.
I actually watched the match, Orton didn't land on his head, I think he sandbag Kennedy just to get him out of the federation.
obviously not a professional myself but especially in the slow mo of it it looks absolutely like randy just lands on his shoulderblades, doesn't look like his head makes any contact with the mat whatsoever
EXACTLY!!! It had already been reported from several wrestling sites that both Cena & Orton were jealous of Mr. Kennedy in the first place! I'm personally not one to believe any of those sites, but when I saw what happened next with him, that's when I knew it was true!
@@marcelmeister4418 Yeah plus it really looked a bit like he was too high like Mr. Kennedy said.
He did what he and Cena have always done every time they were afraid someone more talented was stealing their spots.
Exactly. I’ve seen this spot mentioned multiple times, but Kennedy didn’t do anything wrong. Orton clearly oversold the thing and just landed on his shoulders, I’ve seen way worse bumps taken.
to be fair to Snuka .... he was carrying a heavy camera he had to "put down" first and it seemed HBK pulled him (from the entrance) too far to the left ... and he (though it's hard to judge how far the jump would go) was already too far back from the ring
2:00 that powerbomb from test was beautiful
Its amazing how some were fired for the same stuff others were not fired for.
6:11 Anyone else think this looked like a pretty standard bump? I've never wrestled, so I'm open to further explanation.....
Same, like I don't see Randy being dropped on his head.
Thats because it wasnt his head, it was his shoulder/back that Orton was already having trouble with. And even then, yeah, looks pretty standard. I think Randy just caught a stinger and decided to be a diva about.
Vince hates it when a gimmick gets over with the crowd that he didn't come up with.... That bump was just the excuse he was looking for to get rid of Mr Kennedy
Adam is lucky Brock didn’t lose his mind on him
Oh my God!! That one with The Undertaker not having anyone breaking his fall?!? I'm genuinely surprised that he lived through that!
Honestly when you look at it. Taker jump was a little short at wrestlemania 25😂
booker t "coming for you" moment deserves an honorary mention. booker's reaction was hilarious
That was not entirely Kennedy’s fault.
And hot take, I remember Big Cass’s segment. The story was already unnecessarily bad, as everyone HATED the team splitting up because they were undeniably popular. WWE ruined their careers with another overused generic betrayal storyline. Cass was getting booed left and right and being tested since he had never held the center stage before. He gave the big boot, but that was it. And he continued because awkward, empty silence was creeping in. That's when a segment fails entirely because you're getting no reaction.
That's why I think he did a lot more than needed because it would have been as lame as Alexa Bliss’s “This Is Your Life” segment. WWE is not the land of opportunity anymore. Depending on them (mostly) you can either sink or swim.
Nothing to do with Enzo being a bit "rapey" then huh?
Kennedy wasn't fired just because of the orton botch. He had a few injuries, had multiple wellness violations, and had a poor attitude. In his own words, the randy thing was just the straw that broke the camels back.
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Pretty stupid that Paul London got fired just for smiling. I know it was supposed to be a serious moment but still…..🙄
It's ridiculous to get fired for that considering all the other things that have happened on WWE TV in its collective history, but I guarantee if it was someone Vince actually liked or was close with he would have seen it as a rib instead.
Still an insecure bitch regardless
You're an actor right? You're told its a serious scene, be serious. You smile. You did literally the exact opposite that the job called for. You get fired. Make sense?
I know it was spur of the moment, but Henry could have feigned injury during the pod collision and just withered in “pain” in the pod until it was his turn to go…
miz mistake cost us truth for a yr. now bron brekker has cost us truth for yet another yr 😭
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5:47 graphic botch 😐
6:27 Orton’s head never touches the mat.
Yes he lied
Where did you guys find the beat for your intro?
Sim sunka I don’t blame him at all, taker didn’t fly over the ropes high enough and Shawn grabbed him, plus he was holding a camera? Who ever came up with that spot was a complete idiot.
IMO the best one of all, for real, no memes or BS in this post, is Booker's "HULK HOGAN, WE COMIN' AFTER YOU NI-"
So just watch the clip. Go do it, look it up and come back, I'll wait :)
Even if you've seen it, go watch it again!
- Now replay it, and this time, look only at Booker. Look in his eyes and at his body language, he IMMEDIATELY knows he just screwed up. There's an interview about this promo and Booker said he thought he was going to get fired the MOMENT he got backstage.
- Now replay it again and watch Sherri. She starts patting Booker's back and comforting him, she said something like "it'll be okay" to him iirc
- Now replay it again and only watch Stevie. He said he was focusing on just staying in character and looking tough, so he didn't even notice it
- And finally one more time and just watch Gene lmao. Doesn't break at all. Class act. RIP to my favorite interviewer. Even better than Roddy, I LOVE Gene's character work.
Brian Kendrik is smiling too, but he got nothing.
Taker botched that jump too it wasn't just on sim.
Undertaker weight over 300 lbs who tf thought Sim Snuka was supposed to catch the Deadman.
Funny how Strowman and Holly both tried to talk about getting owned by Lesnar like it was all fun and games. They didn't expect to get hit back.
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Mr Kennedy got fired for injured Randy Orton made no sense
Injuring a top guy in the pro wrestling is never a good look
That's probably something WWE been wanted to do wrestlers injury wrestlers all time with no server punishment
@@Oswald_lusambya there was no injury whatsoever
@@blackstormer95 ok?
@@Oswald_lusambya you're statement is incorrect
5. And now Miz has been on more than one occasion paired with R-Truth for the rest of his career.
6. I truly believe this missed spot shortened what was left of Taker's career.
Glad that Orton eased up over the years because back then especially in the mid to late 2000s, he was a major brat. He was always angry backstage and often overreacts to things that were simple mistakes.
Orton's head barley even touched the mat
The Big Cass its so funny because Vince approved the awful segment and the script but the "extra" beat down... No... that was too much!
How many times are the same videos going to be made just with slightly different setups?
The suplex that Mr. Kennedy gave Orton looks fine. It doesn't even look like Orton's head touched the mat.
didnt you make this a year ago?
Honestly, WWE can be really petty.
In that business, where everything is live, you can't expect there to not be any mistakes.
In certain industries, mistakes can end REALLY badly and in an industry where your job is to have epic, somewhat choreographed fights that incorporate a lot of acrobatics and a single sequence can incorporate a combination of moves, mistakes are inevitable.
As someone who has performed in the minutely slightly safer music industry, I know the amount of mistakes made in a single performance is huge, but even people who are also performers can't spot them and I know it's more than likely the same in wrestling. As in, we notice the big mistakes, most people will have no clue that a dozen other mistakes were made.
The point is, mistakes happen. The only reason it should effect your career is if the mistakes are regular and/or obvious negligence.
Kofi is an example of he knew he F'd up bad but spent a long time undoing that error to become a mega star. Thats how you learn from mistakes.
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The Mr Anderson suplex is still just silly. And the Big Cass beat down.. that was the first time Cass looked legit.
Kennedy's return and his final WWE botch were the SAME NIGHT, not just the same YEAR...
1:58 eh? WHAT incident? What happened? You completely forgot to say what happened
I had to watch that a couple of times to understand. So, apparently, in a match against Taker, DDP didn't cooperate in taking multiple bumps (and get ups) in succession as a "comeback" spot for Taker. Whether it was intentional or DDP not realizing/remembering he was supposed to do it was not mentioned.
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Cass was already Disliked because of a backstage incident with Carmella and the USOs. Him going off script just made him look like Enzo. I believe Vince set the whole little person segment up just to get rid of him.
*DDP's Stalker Storyline was intended for Sting, but Sting decided not to come*
5:20 and the same mistake would happen again 10 years later in NXT in a match between R-Truth and Grayson Waller.