The poor mapping on that KIB omni would put me off paying the $150 US price tag. I’d definitely opt for the Venom omni if I had to choose. Thanks for the early preview Gem Mint!
"Anyone in their mid 30's" 😆 Indeed these Venoms is where I would start! The extras look awesome. (I am a sucker for the world building extras. I.e. Character bios, in world newspaper clippings etc.)
Been out the game for bit. This is the latest vid of yours I've watched in awhile. Enjoyed it very much so! Especially since how I've been saying how most of my comic reading will probably come from completed books (such as omni's). I have three I have to finish reading now, but venom/king in black are definitely on my wishlist.
I asked Marvel support in August about the release of the KIB omni. They replied last week and told me they had no information about the release date. My dude Gem knows whats up. Thanks! So excited for both of these books.
I have the Venom omni on PO and I was debating about the KiB omni but wasn't sure on the double dips. After you're review I'm thinking on gettin on both now 👍🏻
Thank you. I have venom and absolute carnage. I have a chance to get king in black for 80 but now that I see they don't put the tie ins in order, Im good. Can use that 80 for another omnibus
Oh man, I _LOVED_ this Venom run, and been looking forward to the King in Black omni too. I think I like the King in Black DM with the All Black on it. I might have to preorder it to make sure I can get one. I want both, but I have all the Venom OHCs already but only a few of the tie-in trade paperbacks for King in Black, so that one's priority for me. Wait... Does the Venomnibus have the War of the Realms Venom stuff in it (Venom 2018 #13-15)? That's weird to me if it does.
Probably already been mentioned but those alternate covers for the Venom book were actually changed at the last minute. The DM cover is now issue 1 of Venom which makes no sense to put that as the DM and the standard cover as issue 1 of KIB. Had I known this I would have preordered the DM cover originally. I’m going to sell my standard cover for my preorder price and put that towards getting the DM cover.
Yea I noticed that and luckily managed to cancel my order and got the DM variant. It should have been the standard. Hope you get to get the cover you wanted!
Wish you'dve lined up the scoop with the Absolute Carnage Omnibus too to show the double/triple dips. Also would've loved to see the binding on those two.
tbh i see value in collecting both! the venom omnibus will give you the full run of the venom donny cates line which is important. The king in black omnibus gives you kind of the world building of the event with the event as well. I have read a good portion of donnycates run leading up to this (I think I am on issue #20 of 34) so I can see myself buying the venom omnibus to finish the line plus get into some of web of venom and king in black. Reading king in black will give me that completionism satisfaction of fully completing an event lol. I would probably read venomnibus first though and then king in black
hey, not a big comic fan but a huge Venom fan, well its pretty expensive for a book so i had some queries. Can i directly jump to KiB from Venomnibus? and does Venomnibus suffice the storyline for Venom?
@@thedarkknight095 venomomnibus is a good starting point for venom and from there you can go to king in black smoothly. Only thing is there is overlap between the two so be prepared for that
@BUGSMACKER! but will there be a story from the beginning to the end. I hope I don't have to read anything prior or after to Venomnibus and KiB, respectively, and what this "mapping" people are so angry about in KIB? And how relevant is Absolute Carnage in between these 2 books
I own Absolute Carnage tpb and Venomni is 200 pages smaller so I feel like I should go King in Black. Maybe try to pick up D. Cates run in store t.p.b. on sale. When it comes to the reading order, Ill look up a list when I open it and go flip through the book once putting paper thin book marks with numbers on em. #1-#40 or w/e. Yeah its annoying BUT I will admit that it does have a bit of the old school "issue hunting" feel that it took to read events in the 90s.
I remember reading through absolute carnage omni and I had sticky notes all over it. Why can't they map these? Super annoying. But ive been holding out on my venom trades til I got this in. Excited to finally read the event.
You're both correct about the sequence of the chapter mapping I do wonder why they can't just map it out then sell it as like a complete epic chapter by chapter. No one is going to enjoy jumping around, especially if there's no index or indication on which chapter you should read next.
@@xjosuedavidx yea they could've at least put in a reading order in the front. Would be less annoying. This is a fat book too. Its not physically gonna be fun to read.
Just to clarify, do I get the full story with the venomnibus (meaning Ill understand the event from start to finish) or would I need the event omnibus to be able to properly experience/appreciate the event?
I own the Venomnibus. I think they did a great job including everything you would need to understand the event. If you own Venom issues 1-35 then I would get the king in black but otherwise, Venomnibus is the way to go!
With the Venomnibus, you'll get everything from Donny Cates' run, so you'll be able to read from start to finish in an easy and straightforward manner. You don't need the Absolute Carnage omnibus or the King in Black Omnibus as they only include the mainline issues of their respective stories, as well as the Venom comics that are tide to those stories. These are all included on the Venomnibus. The other omnibuses include all the tie-ins and side stories that are not included in the Venomnibus. So, if you want to read them, then check out these omnibuses. They are not necessary to get the full story of the Venomnibus.
King in Black mapping is a total turn off. Did they map it properly in the Venominbus? I have most of the issues but jumped into Venom around the time of Total carnage so I'm getting that one to read the beginning of the run and re-read the rest.
Not a fan of the mapping of the event Omnis. Why bother with an omni if the mapping is no different than just stapling all the tpbs together. I think I'll stick with the venom Omni and just get tpbs/singles for the tie ins that interest me.
The poor mapping on that KIB omni would put me off paying the $150 US price tag. I’d definitely opt for the Venom omni if I had to choose. Thanks for the early preview Gem Mint!
Yep. I collected the floppies(also first venture into comics) and the KiB mapping makes me weep.
"Anyone in their mid 30's" 😆
Indeed these Venoms is where I would start!
The extras look awesome. (I am a sucker for the world building extras. I.e. Character bios, in world newspaper clippings etc.)
Been out the game for bit. This is the latest vid of yours I've watched in awhile. Enjoyed it very much so! Especially since how I've been saying how most of my comic reading will probably come from completed books (such as omni's). I have three I have to finish reading now, but venom/king in black are definitely on my wishlist.
Yesss I was waiting for this! Definitely picking this up!
Ive been watching these 2 runs for like a year now. Needed this review.
🔥🔥🔥 Awesome Stuff Brother thanks for the Knowledge GEM 💎 🔥🔥🔥
I never clicked on a video so fast !!!! Two of my most anticipated omni’s of the year !! The hype is REAL for me ! Can’t wait !
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Omni videos 🙌🏽. Can’t wait to get both these in! Double dipping ain’t to bad. But does it matter. Got to have them all!
Good review! I pre ordered the venom omnibus months ago and can't wait for it to get here
I asked Marvel support in August about the release of the KIB omni. They replied last week and told me they had no information about the release date. My dude Gem knows whats up. Thanks! So excited for both of these books.
Hell yeah! Need more omnibus hauls!
Thanks for another great review! 🙂
Double dipping isn’t that bad honestly I’m glad I scooped up both 😁
So stoked to see a dedicated video for this book
I wonder why near mint hasn't made one yet. Hes has kib for a few weeks now.
@@TheDARKNESS8030 not sure! All these guys are great 👏
Really excited to pick these up. Jealous you got them so early.
Zup, big venom fan here, great insight on these omnibus thanks 😎👍🏼
The story is awesome... can't wait to get my hands on the venomnibus 👍👍👍
THX for this video:D
One of the greatest stories ever told
Geez, King in Black storyline is 4 years old? That’s nuts, seems like only a few months ago I was watching your UA-cam videos reviewing it.
I have the Venom omni on PO and I was debating about the KiB omni but wasn't sure on the double dips. After you're review I'm thinking on gettin on both now 👍🏻
Does knull decapitate a celestial in the venom omnibus?
I got this whole era in singles but as an Hardcore Venom fan I’m happy to double dip on this one 😎🔥
This videos where u talk about omnis ate the best ones
Thank you for this video! Now I have to get both! I'm a completist too 😅 greetings from Portugal!
I'm excited for both of these. I never read the King in Black story so I'll be diving in as soon as it arrives from OPB!
Thank you. I have venom and absolute carnage. I have a chance to get king in black for 80 but now that I see they don't put the tie ins in order, Im good. Can use that 80 for another omnibus
Oh man, I _LOVED_ this Venom run, and been looking forward to the King in Black omni too.
I think I like the King in Black DM with the All Black on it. I might have to preorder it to make sure I can get one.
I want both, but I have all the Venom OHCs already but only a few of the tie-in trade paperbacks for King in Black, so that one's priority for me.
Wait... Does the Venomnibus have the War of the Realms Venom stuff in it (Venom 2018 #13-15)? That's weird to me if it does.
Good question chino
What printer did they use for the Vemon Omnibus and KIB? Just curious. I tell the word Turkey but not much else with 1080 quality.
Great video probably getting venom & skipping the king in black book
Ah dude, more vids like these please🙌🏻🙌🏻
Ya they’re coming. Just the move and renovations set me back. About to be back like before.
@@GemMintCollectibles sweet dude✌🏻I’m game
Good God, these are BIG
Probably already been mentioned but those alternate covers for the Venom book were actually changed at the last minute. The DM cover is now issue 1 of Venom which makes no sense to put that as the DM and the standard cover as issue 1 of KIB. Had I known this I would have preordered the DM cover originally. I’m going to sell my standard cover for my preorder price and put that towards getting the DM cover.
I saw some mention of that. This is the most I’ve heard now. That’s wild
Yea I noticed that and luckily managed to cancel my order and got the DM variant. It should have been the standard. Hope you get to get the cover you wanted!
Yea gotta agree man, shame the king in black isnt produced in publishing order. I like to read the material i its correct order
Is the Donny cates run directly after the Cullen Venom run? I’ve read both complete volumes of the rememder run, but not read the Cullen run yet.
Wish you'dve lined up the scoop with the Absolute Carnage Omnibus too to show the double/triple dips. Also would've loved to see the binding on those two.
Yea I was thinking about that as I was recording. It’s boxed up though 😒
Cool omnibuses
amazing
tbh i see value in collecting both! the venom omnibus will give you the full run of the venom donny cates line which is important. The king in black omnibus gives you kind of the world building of the event with the event as well.
I have read a good portion of donnycates run leading up to this (I think I am on issue #20 of 34) so I can see myself buying the venom omnibus to finish the line plus get into some of web of venom and king in black.
Reading king in black will give me that completionism satisfaction of fully completing an event lol.
I would probably read venomnibus first though and then king in black
hey, not a big comic fan but a huge Venom fan, well its pretty expensive for a book so i had some queries. Can i directly jump to KiB from Venomnibus? and does Venomnibus suffice the storyline for Venom?
@@thedarkknight095 venomomnibus is a good starting point for venom and from there you can go to king in black smoothly. Only thing is there is overlap between the two so be prepared for that
@BUGSMACKER! but will there be a story from the beginning to the end. I hope I don't have to read anything prior or after to Venomnibus and KiB, respectively, and what this "mapping" people are so angry about in KIB? And how relevant is Absolute Carnage in between these 2 books
Im trying to get into Venom right now, and I want to read the KiB story but I want to read it in order, any tips?
Is there a double dip with war of realms omnibus?
Bummed the King in Black mapping isn't the publishing order. Probably cementing only getting Venomnibus
hey does knull decapiate a celestial in the venom omnibus?
I own Absolute Carnage tpb and Venomni is 200 pages smaller so I feel like I should go King in Black. Maybe try to pick up D. Cates run in store t.p.b. on sale.
When it comes to the reading order, Ill look up a list when I open it and go flip through the book once putting paper thin book marks with numbers on em. #1-#40 or w/e. Yeah its annoying BUT I will admit that it does have a bit of the old school "issue hunting" feel that it took to read events in the 90s.
I remember reading through absolute carnage omni and I had sticky notes all over it. Why can't they map these? Super annoying. But ive been holding out on my venom trades til I got this in. Excited to finally read the event.
You're both correct about the sequence of the chapter mapping I do wonder why they can't just map it out then sell it as like a complete epic chapter by chapter. No one is going to enjoy jumping around, especially if there's no index or indication on which chapter you should read next.
@@xjosuedavidx yea they could've at least put in a reading order in the front. Would be less annoying. This is a fat book too. Its not physically gonna be fun to read.
One of the best story lines marvel has done
Thems are some Thiiic boys!!
Gem mint I need those but probably just venom and the king in black trade for me
If the vs series comes back in the future I hope we can get a playable Knull.
Donny Cates is so talented.
I thought they changed the covers?
I bought both KIB AND VENOMNIBUS what do you suggest for me to read first?
Hey does knull decapitate a celestial in the venom omnibus????
What about Godzilla from IDW comics.
Venom Omnibus! On Gem Mint!
Does it show knull decapitating a celestial in the venom omnibus?
Yeah, I believe Absolute Carnage also distributed their issues in that same way, completely out of order. Never understood that.
Lame
Gonna get that Venom omnibus, gonna pass on the KIB one. Them corners on the KIB one! Who sent you these copies to review?
The factory that produced it
Just to clarify, do I get the full story with the venomnibus (meaning Ill understand the event from start to finish) or would I need the event omnibus to be able to properly experience/appreciate the event?
I own the Venomnibus. I think they did a great job including everything you would need to understand the event. If you own Venom issues 1-35 then I would get the king in black but otherwise, Venomnibus is the way to go!
With the Venomnibus, you'll get everything from Donny Cates' run, so you'll be able to read from start to finish in an easy and straightforward manner. You don't need the Absolute Carnage omnibus or the King in Black Omnibus as they only include the mainline issues of their respective stories, as well as the Venom comics that are tide to those stories. These are all included on the Venomnibus.
The other omnibuses include all the tie-ins and side stories that are not included in the Venomnibus. So, if you want to read them, then check out these omnibuses. They are not necessary to get the full story of the Venomnibus.
Absolute carnage omnibus mapped their omnibus the same way which turned me off from reading it which lead me to start collecting the single issues.
Wow
I like the venom wraparound hardcover art better than the king in blacks, but I think I'm going to pick up the king in black first.
Never mind if it jumps around like that. I'm getting venom first!
Skipping KIB due to mapping. Absolute Carnage had similar mapping and it wasn't a good experience. Getting Venomnibus though.
I see different covers for the venomnibus. One with lightning background and another where he's holding the skull and the one he reviews. Why is that?
Yo Gem, i guess I'm not the only one that has pages sticking together 💦
King in Black mapping is a total turn off. Did they map it properly in the Venominbus? I have most of the issues but jumped into Venom around the time of Total carnage so I'm getting that one to read the beginning of the run and re-read the rest.
Peace 😎
Also Doctor Strange THE Book of THE Vishanti.
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Thanks For showing off the Donny Cates.
I got too much to buy… never gonna have all this money
DC is very good @ mapping
Not a fan of the mapping of the event Omnis. Why bother with an omni if the mapping is no different than just stapling all the tpbs together. I think I'll stick with the venom Omni and just get tpbs/singles for the tie ins that interest me.
Marvel needs to do a better job with mapping their event omnis. It makes it or breaks it for me.
Godzilla vs Kong is only 45 dollars the art book.
Still waiting for Thor by Donny Cates hardcover or omnibus 😒
I’m sure the first OHC is coming. Omnibus once the runs finished
Power Rangers I got the number 1 released in 2021 .
man that mapping is so disspointed GEM MINTS ARMY 420 RISE UP
King in Black mapping is horrible .. Hence OHCs of Marvel events are better than the omnis
Marvel literally sucks with event omnis. It's always been a criticism about mapping, and they never listen.
We gotta get loud then
Agreed. I canceled my pre order of this book and tweeted about it to marvel
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The dm cover for venom by cates has changed. Stupid marvel.
Great video
I hope UA-cam sends you all the money and the algorithm works in your favor
Aww man your corner got dinged up. That sucks.