I still don’t understand how they can give him credit for a consecutive game scoring streak without actually playing in consecutive games! Make it make sense!
Yea, it makes me a little mad that he wears it. He clearly doesn't deserve to, and also doesn't come anywhere close to fulfilling the expectations that come with wearing the number 23.
Do you not know how much of a dickhead everybody said Michael Jordan was during his career? Plus LeBron never punched teammates, made fun of his GM every chance he got, has 1/2 the ego that Jordan had and never cheated on his wife. Plus he'll probably use his HOF speech to praise the people that helped him succeed and not shit on people he didn't like.
Because to him its more about stats over everything hopefully LeBron is watching all of these UA-camrs exposing his stats for what they are lol there's no way he's not
LeBron James looks silly refusing to retire, using the weak excuse of wanting to play with his son to hide his intentions to keep playing until he collects longevity awards like All-Time this crap and All-Time that crap, just to inflate his resume with air so that people 20 years from now will look at the records and think that he was was a close second to Michael Jordan’s excellence and perfect NBA Finals record. 🤦♂️
@@vicentecampos2893he’s not top 15 lmao he actively hurts the lakers because he bricks a shot and doesn’t play defense so the team is forced to play 4 v 5. his teammates all hate him, look at how they cheered when they beat boston and lebron left the game early. he’s pouting like a little girl. i used to respect lebron but man, the more i watch him and learn about him the more he disgusts me. How is a “GOAT” still a bum? bro has no bag, no moves, no post up skills, no footwork. 😂😂
@@vicentecampos2893 has no three-point shot sucks from the free door line has no jumper can’t close games and need somebody else to take the pressure off of them go sit down clown
@@von1626 wowww. At the end of the day when you round off all his Laker seasons, it's 55 games. So I don't understand your White Knighting here "🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️"
Kobe, Malone, and Kareem all had higher longevity stats than Jordan (especially total points) but no serious person considered them to be better than Jordan. As soon as LeBron passes Jordan, Longevity is the new standard. Pathetic.
@@onlydbrasko , sometimes it's like we're explaining basketball to kids. It's not ONLY about titles or ONLY about longevity. It's about titles, longevity, accomplishments, statistics, etc. It's the body of the individual's work. Jordan achieved way more than LeBron in significantly less time, both at an individual level and a team level. That's where the debate that's never really been a debate ends for LeBron. And if you're going to attempt debating basketball, then do some research. Kareem, Wilt, and Bill were considered the best ever before Jordan (depending on who you spoke to), Bill wasn't universally considered the GOAT. The standard didn't change with Jordan, the standard has always been the standard and Jordan personifies it.
@Zagirus you said a mouthful I agree with everything you said it was so long I couldn't read it all so I'll just wait until your book comes out to finish reading it 😂
If anyone should be praised for longevity when all is said and done, it's Steph. Dude keeps running around and around the court, relentlessly, and would never load manage ON THE COURT. Massive respect for him, hope he keeps going for many years. 😊😊
he will get recognized more for sure he's incredible that's what elite hard work does but like Lebron kobe they constantly works out and keeps his body healthy and ready to go unlike shaq barkley and even to a certain degree jordon toward his wizard's years gambling smoking and putting on unnecessary weight. your body is your temple and we have to be honest about why Jordan didn't last as long
@@sosaraycharles358 He did, but no way does he get anything close as in referee or league love than Lecrybaby James. Also, the man at least did it the right way, hes not some baby crying about not having enough help. Man runs back and fourth on court playing both ends, even if he isnt that great of a defender, still tries.
Lebron is overrated in general, here's a player that has had the privilege to be a player and gm all at once but still have loosing record in the finals, the most turnovers in nba history and the only player to get swept in 3 different decades. And some how ranks himself as the GOAT.
@LeGOAT829 its not hate when its fact, lebron hasn't been the best player in the nba since 2020 nor played all 82 games and hasn't won a championship since 2020.
You mean the help MJ received from Tim Grover, who in 1989 at 29 years old got him to add 15 lbs of pure muscle without losing skill or touch in one off-season?
@@phillyphan1346 No, I mean the help that began when Lebron returned to Cleveland in 2014 and the much-overhyped season debut was a complete flop. He was lifeless, no elevation, no explosion to his step. The drop-off was jaw-dropping and concerning to everyone. Lebron soon departed the team for "unknown reasons" and he returned jumping out of the gym and doing superhuman things again. Just weeks apart. He continued to take this several day trip to Miami each season and is very known to team officials, fans and the league alike.
@@wjatube What evidence do you have this took place and this is what happened? You're tin foil hat is telling you that at age 28 (in 2014), Lebron "lost" his athleticism- then proceeded to get PED's which miraculously brought back all his ability which was on display just the year prior? Get a hobby kid
PEDs. Just look up the BioGenesis investigation from last year (2023). Savannah is on the list. Last time I checked. She is not built like Chyna from the WWE. Sooo, who was she picking up BioGenesis products for? Hmmm.
@bigbearkat2010 facts he didn't let a positive covid test stop LeBron or any Lakers teammates from playing every team's players that wasn't on the Lakers had to go to covid protocols
@@hansonlee5847 nah tht dude is overly bias and lost me by being on the Lamar is a RB train so kinda hard to take his criticism of others seriously. AOH and this channel sticks to video evidence and facts
Lebum isn’t even near the oldest player to win a ring. Parish was 43. And Kareem did it when he was 39 and 40. That’s longevity where it really matters
@@tdup191 kareem between the 1985-89 finals averages 18/6/2 and 1.5 blocks. lebron in his most recent finals averaged 30/11/8 and is averaging 25/8/7 this season.
@@LeGOAT829 Okay what’s his best move? what’s his go-to move? he’s your goat, tell me what he can do other than charge down the court and barrel into the paint🤣🤣 He can play as long as he wants and pad those stats but it won’t change that watching him is so cringy🤣 i’m convinced you lebron nut garglers don’t even watch him play🤣🤣
LeFlop literally load managing on the court while his teammates are forced to play 4 v. 5 defense. And then when he dunks over no one at the other end, dude flexes... What a goddamn 🤡.
savannah and his personal trainers were exposed as being biogenesis ledger associates... I would say that shit if it wasnt official man @@zelohendricks51
Lebum King of Longevity it still doesn't make him the GOAT BIRD is still the Greatest Small Forward and he didn't have to play 20 seasons he played long enough to the Younsters
By Lebum and his LeBonehead fans' logic, Jokic will be the GOAT if he wins one more championship and finals mvp. What I mean is: Lebum has 2 less mvps and championships than Jordan, but Lebrickians call him the GOAT because of longevity stats. Jokic is dwarfing Lebum's triple double record almost 10 years faster so I guess him having 2 less championships and mvps than Lebum with better advanced stats makes him the GOAT. 🤔🤣
When he first joined the Lakers fools like Nick Wrong were debating on how many rings he'd need to surpass MJ. No talks at all about Kareem or anything like that. Fast forward to LeKunta getting the black beaten off his ass and suddenly "rings don't tell the whole story" while while longevity stats suddenly hold way more weight. That clown Rich Paul didn't just randomly start spewing nonsense trying to devalue rings for no reason.
Rings are a team accomplishment, not individual. Rings do not tell the story- context matters. If context did not matter- Bill Russell would be the GOAT.
@@phillyphan1346of course rings don't matter alone. MJ still obliterates lechoke on accolades and offensive and defensive skill set and efficiency. If MJ padded his stats like lechoke and cared about total points, he would've reached that feat in less years than bron (despite not playing in 3pt era) and bron would still chasing him.😂😂
LeBron doesn't have a legitimate championship he has 3 superteam rings and a Disney bubble gum tournament ring Jokic and Giannis 1 ring is worth more than all of LeBron's copper rings combined
@@mr.perfect1749 didn’t Jordan have a super team too with pippin and Rodman and also having the greatest coach? Also should the nba just not have played that season at all? Did you watch any of those “bubble” games?
@rossdoonan6220 yeah, it was the 7th easiest title run in the last 50 years, and their competition was largely injured, in a tournament where players were either banned or opted from competition all together. It was a bogus title
LeBron’s longevity is a double edged sword. Sure he’s managed to maintain his prime for a freakish amount of time, despite this, he still doesn’t touch the number of accolades and accomplishments Mj got. It didn’t take MJ 20 years to get his 6 rings, 6 FMVPs and 10 scoring titles…it only took 13 (really 11 if you count his injuries) years
6 but only 6 finals . you see how longevity matter over perfection as it becomes harder the older you get to maintain elite status that long in any capacity . . Also the laws of average says the longer you play the harder it is to maintain perfection. lets say you give Jordan 6 more finals only then could you even compare the two and give a fair assessment of said outcome.
You try defending the skilled perimeter players today ''one on one'' and tell me how it turns out mr defense expert lol. Yall don't know what you are even talking about just listen to other idiots.
How is Jordan's Wizards years underwhelming? He set a lot of records for his age. If he wanted to get titles, he would be in the Lakers, the Spurs or the Trailblazers. Also do not compare MJ with the underachieving stat padder with the losing record. Thank you.
Probably because MJ's offensive game on the Wizards was solely post-up fade aways which is why he had ghastly efficiency numbers and also didn't make the playoffs either year. There is zero doubt which player is better at age 38 and 39. Zero.
@@phillyphan1346 You missed the point. MJ wasn't interested to necessarily win championship with the Wizard as co-owner. You forgot he came out from three years retirement with known knee issues and broken ribs from his practice with Ron Artest. The reason MJ Wizard did not make to the playoff is injury. Let remind that Wizard were on the pace to reach the playoff before MJ got injured. Knee injury are no joke.
@ryanr20091 he was injured and was about to make the playoffs before injury with a team that has Noone. He actually got them from 0 to a very good spot until he got injured. Lebron cannot make the playoffs with multiple stacked teams, a play in tournament and during a weaker era.
Longevity and finals appearances wasn't really celebrated as much until Lebron came along. Kareem made 10 appearances and won 6. Lebron made 10 appearances and won 4. Never in the history of any sport has losing in the finals been celebrated until Lebron James came along.
Why do you care much about a finals mvps. You do understand that finals mvp doesn't necessarily mean better player . Iguodala won final mvp anything voted on is subjective young man
LeBron spent his first seven years playing on crap Cavs teams and still managed to take them to a finals. Plus his competition was tougher than Jordan's. Jordan only played against excellent Finals teams twice in his career (the Jazz).
@@ChiSportsNut18all the teams tge Bulls faced in the finals were great. The whole play-offs count. The Bulls played better competition to get to the finals
I could play in the nba if nobody makes me play defense and the rules get bent for my weaknesses. But it wouldn’t be fun for y’all to watch. So in conclusion nothing would change from the current NBA era
@@LeGOAT829 He’s not the goat lmao And it’s actually way more about hating his fans than hating him, because I don’t. My comment dissed y’all, not him lol
Lemme mention one more thing: Timeouts and game breaks... Game today is so diluted it is crazy... One attack and timeout, FTs, checking replay, adds timeout, etc. And all of that lasts for so long because there's always some kind of show during it...
Do consecutive game streaks count if you load manage and play only 55 games per year for the past 6 years? Bronze's consecutive 10+ scoring streak should have been over with load management.
I can't knock Curry. He was never all world on defense, but he at least gave effort. He used to be constantly hunted on defensenuntil he greatly improved. Durant plays defense as well.
This is false, in the playoffs Curry is ALWAYS hunted, that has not stopped teams from ISO'ing him every opportunity in the post season. Even in the regular season game against LAL, Curry was pulled from the game in a few sequences which were defensive possessions at the end of the game. That speaks volumes.
@@jaymac4448 No I refuted your point. He still gets hunted to this day and he literally is being pulled on defensive sequences- so clearly he did not improve like you said. Is today opposite day??
@phillyphan1346 it's okay to not like him. But to say he didn't improve on defense is clearly just unintelligent. Plus, the topic of the whole discussion clown is today's superstars not putting in the work on both ends of the floor.
@@phillyphan1346he gets "hunted" Because he always has elite wing defenders on the floor with him, so it would be stupid to attack those guys over curry. Your king gets hunted too, kd wanted LeBron and lebron ran like the coward he is
Jordan was that gamer that was the best even when nerfed by terrible internet connection. Lebron is that gamer that complains he was nerfed by his state-of-the-art internet connection
@@based3716the worst era by far is this era followed by the time between Wilt’s retirement and Magic and Bird coming in and saving the league. The time between Wilt’s retirement and Magic and Bird coming in had playoffs and finals that were not on live tv but shown tape delayed because the league was too thuggish but this era of Primadonnas is worse.
Great info with the back 2 backs being played!! I always tell people Lebron James has not played more than 70 games in LA, hasn’t made an all defensive team in his 30’s and hasn’t won an MVP since he was 28…but they talk “longevity”
Jordan played 82 games 8 times in his Bulls career and 9 times total. He played another 2 seasons where he played 80-81, and one more where he played 78 games. The only three seasons he played under 78 games were the season early in his career when he broke his foot, his baseball sojourn, and his first year in Washington when he was injured and missed the last 22 games of the season. In his last season, he played 82 games. Jordan had an attitude of "My team is playing a game that I could help them win, so I'm playing'. If you load manage, you aren't the GOAT.
Lebron rests all season long. And has over 200+ games he didn’t play in the regular season. Just look it up He averages 71 games played a season. In the last 20 seasons that is 220 games he didn’t play. That’s more than two seasons worth of games. (164). Bron is working on his third regular season worth of games off. If he misses 26 games this season he’d have 3 seasons worth of games off. Oh and dont give me the playoff’s games BS. Plenty of players played all 82 games and went deep in playoffs. If bron is resting so he can play more playoff games than that means he’s not capable of playing full 82 and going all the way. So his longevity is manufactured.
I could see it if LBJ was diminished and forced to come off the bench. He acts as if he's still in his prime with the same moves. Mj adjusted his game later on and became a midrange assassin
Jordan did have a playoff mode...but it was even more intense than what he did in the regular season... It kills me watching your footage. So many uncontested dunks and layups, so many times Lebron's teammates give up a clear shot for him to get more points, so much travelling, charging, and offensive fouls that never get called...
Longevity can actually hurt a player as well. As they start falling from their peak their athleticism can also start dropping off. Such as being turned over more, a lower fg%, ppg falling off and so on hurts their career stats.
Thats actually a ridiculously retarded question...LeBron has also missed the playoffs when he got to the Lakers with a far more talented team that Mike had in Washington...And even though Mike played with crackheads and bums his first few years in Chicago he NEVER missed the playoffs prior to getting Scottie. Lebron didn't make the playoffs until his 3rd year in the league and also had far more talent in Cleveland than Mike had in his first years...What are you talking about?
To make regular season games interesting, those games should count in playoff series. Then, there would not exist play off mode at all. For example: Denver have to play 3 times against the Lakers, now it's 2-0, let's pretend it's 3-0 by the end of regular season (probably will be). If they match in the playoffs, they start 3-0, but instead of 7 games, it's 9 games (even if they had to play 4 games in regular season (or 2 in case of different conference teams), 9 games would be fine in my opinion, and home and away games would be scheduled acounting the games played in the regular season). And to make all star game interesting too, the winning conference has court advantadge in the finals, wouldn't matter the regular season record, since oponents calendar in regular season differ quite a bit from one conference to the other.
@@Dreybaconjr If my idea is the dumbest thing you've seen you might be partially blind. This is how it works in European and World championships (the real ones) between first and second rounds.
@@AverageGuy28 1. The all star game for home field is a terrible idea, as the whole point of that is for the players to just have fun. No one wants to try their hardest and risk getting injured. 2. Why would you change something that’s worked fine for like 60 years? Then there would just be more asterisks being put on everything.
@@Dreybaconjr Ratings ara at an all time low, so it's not working "fine", hence the introduction of in season tournament. No one have fun playing and much less watching the all star game anymore.
MJ fan here. To be fair, longevity is impressive and not for nothing since this is an entertainment business and the longer you are able to perform as a player at a high level the better. However, to me this plays very little in terms of who I think is the better player or the more accomplished player. Prime vs Prime (who is going to compare the non-prime years?), I don't think anyone will argue that MJ wasn't the greatest we have ever seen and also the greatest winner during that period of time. Not only did he dominate as an individual, his team also won as the result of his dominance. So while I give Lebron a lot of the credit for playing this long, and rightfully so, it would have only been a huge factor if MJ's career was cut short by injury or something. The thing is, MJ had a relatively long career for someone from his era, so I don't think it is a negative when compared to Lebron who has modern medicine and modern training regime to support that, not to mention MJ has the edge in term of games played per season. Being there night in and night out is what MJ sacrificed for longevity.
MJ cared about the fans in that he knew they were spending their hard earned money to see him and the rest of the stars. Not playing when you are 100 percent capable just because you want to rest or load manage is cheating the fans who pay to watch you play.
15 seasons is average compared to Kobe Kareem LeBron and Malone . this is where jordan fallls short and yes his bulls years were great for the time being, but he played less in his wizard's years because he didn't even make the playoffs once lol . you see the problem with most Jordan fans is they want to discount longevity because it doesn't favor Jordon as this mythical statue for everyone to worship . The truth is he had is easier playing less games seasons and playoff games and finals games and doesnt compare to kobe Lebron and kareeem . remember Lebron started when jordan career ended so he's really not a modern day superstar is he ? Thats another mistake jordon fane make judging him like he just got here 10 years or even15 ago. Lebron has overlapped several eras and had to adapt to the modern era . you see how that works?
@@ryanr20091 oh no one is saying longevity isn't important, I said it in my post that we shouldn't discount it. However, what we are saying is that MJ played more game per season (if you want to include those deep playoff runs Lebron had we can, and not for nothing MJ made playoffs every year except those 2 Wizard years, Lebron has missed his fair shares of playoffs too) and less rest in those era. Again, not Lebron's fault that this is how it is now, but you can't say that the way the game works doesn't prolong players career with less back to back game and more rest and load management. Thats why you can't compare players from different eras, and MJ himself said it many times that without Kareem without magic and without Dr J there will be no Michael Jordan, and therefore it is unfair to have a goat. Lebron on the other hand has self proclaimed to be the goat numerous times, so you get that why people are talking smack?
@@ryanr20091 and when he retired the first time for baseball, he retired to play another sport. So it wasn't like he took 2 years off to rest, he was getting his wear and tears elsewhere so it wasn't like he was just sitting at home. Not to mention if you play sports before, sitting at home for a couple years instead of working out constantly does the opposite to your body, you age that much faster cuz the lack of activities. What modern day regime does is finding that balance between playing and resting, those back to back games take an extreme toll on your body so the league is regulating that out much more than before. Think of it like this. If you have to play 3 games in 6 days, playing it back to back to back and rest 3 days vs playing those 3 games with 1 day of rest in between, what do you think is better for your body? You can't reverse the tolls those games took on your body with however more rest, that's just how the body works, it reaches a threshold and it starts breaking down.
They did load manage back in the 90s they did it by managing minutes, I remember back in 72 win season often times the starters sat out during the forth quarter so the incentive was to kick the crap out of teams to get rest and keep your bench active so they can be used in the playoffs effectively. It's retarded what they do now and it just hurts players legacies because they don't face the rigors of a 82 game season with actual defense. Man they really need to re assess their product.
What really aggravates me: those ESPN and Fox Sports guys, who are (mostly) dumb as rocks... (remember Nick Wright, making the "case" that Lebron's last two rings count double?) ...while Uncut Hoops and some others are on f-ing UA-cam, and they do the REAL journalistic work. Great analysis, as always.
@@LeGOAT829 lebum never led the league in steals or blocks but Steph has and Steph average more steals for his career than LeBron and kobe lol the facts don't agree with u Steph has a steals titles lebron don't
@@based3716 i didn't say he was a better defender but I think he better then LeBron specifically steph better at steals LeBron better at blocks but LeBron rarely even try even tho he got all the physical advantages that's worst when u don't even have the effort
Excellent video and ditto points. 👍👏 I'd argue Curry isn't THAT bad of a defender as you play him out to be, I mean, he definitely tries on that end (unlike LeCone), but he's just not great at it. 😊
Exactly, he’s too short to get the respect he deserves on the defensive side cause a bad defender isn’t winning a contested rebound against Anthony Davis or stopping a backdown in the post against nurkic
@@dvdv8197 Didnt say he was a bad defender but due explain what makes a defender ''good' since according to you all defensive teams aren't a great indication as to how good or bad a defender is .
@@ryanr20091 I wouldn't say he's a good defender, I'd say he's average. Thing is, being motivated and trying on that end gets you a long way, especially in today's NBA.
Kevin Durant tore an Achilles and is playing near peak at 35. 20 years ago you tore an Achilles and you were that old of you were lucky you could still be a role player. Not saying Lebron's longevity isn't impressive, he's put a lot of work and money into staying this good but this is probably the new normal for guys who put that effort in.
@@lolcopexxbro to make a whole channel dedicated to this is weird. And he vids keep popping up on my recommended because I watch lots of other basketball channels. This dude is trash
I still don’t understand how they can give him credit for a consecutive game scoring streak without actually playing in consecutive games! Make it make sense!
John Stockton played 19 years and missed 22 games. That was in a league the actually played defense. PHYSICAL defense!
Michael Jordan was in playoff mode during practice
He was in playoff mode even during Space Jam
he took practice personally.😂😂😂
He was in playoff mode gambling at the locker room as well, the guy had no OFF mode
Good point 👍
When he woke up in the morning 365 days a year he was in playoff mode. Damn, when he was taking a shit he was in playoff mode
Lefraud is a disgrace to the number 23
So?
Lefraud is a fraud. A stat padding fraud.
@@thefunguy5069you're unhinged
Yea, it makes me a little mad that he wears it. He clearly doesn't deserve to, and also doesn't come anywhere close to fulfilling the expectations that come with wearing the number 23.
Longevity is praised because they want to praise lebron James SO BAD. They'll praise anything and everything about him.
Q Rich
"Michael had one mode. I kill everybody all the time. Kobe had one mode. I kill everybody all the time."
While bron has playoffmode
lebums true only mode is Play? Off-time @@marclyndoncruz6097
Lebron....i whine on every play
I think Kobe also had a rape setting too
@@marclyndoncruz6097 get knocked out of the playoffs mode
LOAD MANAGING your way to playing 21 seasons along with not even playing hard on BOTH ends of the court is NOT impressive.
Its called being smarter.
@@antipro4483 by LeBron FANBOYS, maybe 🤔
@@antipro4483 smart? If he was smart he would have won more than 4 in 21 years
@@antipro4483smarter financially. Still didn’t achieve more
love this channel bro
no intro, no time wasted, just straight into dissecting Lebron’s legacy 😭😭😭
Hes such a hater clown
it’s crazy how lebron is destroying his own legacy. he just embarrasses himself every time he goes out there now
@@LeGOAT829
Cry me a river LeFraud brainless fan.
@@steviechampagne I agree
Haha.But it is true. Lebrons legacy is like ZERO😂
Lebron has got to be one of the most unlikable superstars of the last 40 years. He’s insufferable.
Do you not know how much of a dickhead everybody said Michael Jordan was during his career? Plus LeBron never punched teammates, made fun of his GM every chance he got, has 1/2 the ego that Jordan had and never cheated on his wife. Plus he'll probably use his HOF speech to praise the people that helped him succeed and not shit on people he didn't like.
Because to him its more about stats over everything hopefully LeBron is watching all of these UA-camrs exposing his stats for what they are lol there's no way he's not
Everyone hates LeBron
@@businesspartners619 wrong goofy
He’s indeed great but they try to push him to be the goat which shouldn’t be forced. Fans should decide and the majority knows that mj is better
LeBron James looks silly refusing to retire, using the weak excuse of wanting to play with his son to hide his intentions to keep playing until he collects longevity awards like All-Time this crap and All-Time that crap, just to inflate his resume with air so that people 20 years from now will look at the records and think that he was was a close second to Michael Jordan’s excellence and perfect NBA Finals record. 🤦♂️
25-7-7. He is a top 15 on the league, best player in his team and most voted player for All Star game. He doesn't need an excuse to keep playing.
@@vicentecampos2893he’s not top 15 lmao he actively hurts the lakers because he bricks a shot and doesn’t play defense so the team is forced to play 4 v 5.
his teammates all hate him, look at how they cheered when they beat boston and lebron left the game early.
he’s pouting like a little girl. i used to respect lebron but man, the more i watch him and learn about him the more he disgusts me.
How is a “GOAT” still a bum? bro has no bag, no moves, no post up skills, no footwork. 😂😂
@@vicentecampos2893wait, did you say best player on his team?!😂😅🤣 Flopping, no D, no jumper, stands around...
@@vicentecampos2893 has no three-point shot sucks from the free door line has no jumper can’t close games and need somebody else to take the pressure off of them go sit down clown
LBJ is the second greatest of all time
He's been averaging like 55 games a season since he was 34 yrs old.
We been saying the longevity is overrated.
And it's long-HGH-evity at work actually.
Yes them roids definitely come with a cost. He gets uglier and moodier everyday 😂😂😂
Yep, he used to be the modern version of an iron man (new age iron men only play 70 games) in his prime but now that isn’t the same anymore.
He played 67 games in 2020.(he was 35 in 2020 And was second place in mvp voting that year🤦🏾
@@von1626 wowww. At the end of the day when you round off all his Laker seasons, it's 55 games.
So I don't understand your White Knighting here "🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️"
Kobe, Malone, and Kareem all had higher longevity stats than Jordan (especially total points) but no serious person considered them to be better than Jordan. As soon as LeBron passes Jordan, Longevity is the new standard. Pathetic.
@@Zagirus Dont forget the yearly HGH and EPOs
Nothing against MJ's greatness but I was wondering the same when Bill Russell's standard of 11 rings changed to 6 as soon as MJ won them.
@@onlydbrasko , sometimes it's like we're explaining basketball to kids. It's not ONLY about titles or ONLY about longevity. It's about titles, longevity, accomplishments, statistics, etc. It's the body of the individual's work. Jordan achieved way more than LeBron in significantly less time, both at an individual level and a team level. That's where the debate that's never really been a debate ends for LeBron. And if you're going to attempt debating basketball, then do some research. Kareem, Wilt, and Bill were considered the best ever before Jordan (depending on who you spoke to), Bill wasn't universally considered the GOAT. The standard didn't change with Jordan, the standard has always been the standard and Jordan personifies it.
@Zagirus you said a mouthful I agree with everything you said it was so long I couldn't read it all so I'll just wait until your book comes out to finish reading it 😂
@@onlydbrasko That's different because Russell wasn't even the best on his own team, which is a key component.
If anyone should be praised for longevity when all is said and done, it's Steph.
Dude keeps running around and around the court, relentlessly, and would never load manage ON THE COURT.
Massive respect for him, hope he keeps going for many years. 😊😊
he will get recognized more for sure he's incredible that's what elite hard work does but like Lebron kobe they constantly works out and keeps his body healthy and ready to go unlike shaq barkley and even to a certain degree jordon toward his wizard's years gambling smoking and putting on unnecessary weight. your body is your temple and we have to be honest about why Jordan didn't last as long
Steph wasn’t even relevant for the first half of his career 😂
No college + stat padding + PED’s = Longevity stats
Yup...
Dont forget: no defense and cupcake league
@@notayoutuber09Jokic won in cupcake league??
@@sosaraycharles358 He did, but no way does he get anything close as in referee or league love than Lecrybaby James. Also, the man at least did it the right way, hes not some baby crying about not having enough help. Man runs back and fourth on court playing both ends, even if he isnt that great of a defender, still tries.
@@notayoutuber09and MJ leaving five seasons of stats on the table
MJ played better Defense when he played for the Wizards at 39 40 then Lebron has played in the last 5 years
Cus it’s MJ who is one of the greatest defenders of all time 🤷🏾♂️
@@thefunguy5069Dun forget he won offensive and defensive accolades with chip and fmvps in a single season.
Uncut hoops is spot on as always!
Lebron is overrated in general, here's a player that has had the privilege to be a player and gm all at once but still have loosing record in the finals, the most turnovers in nba history and the only player to get swept in 3 different decades. And some how ranks himself as the GOAT.
Well Shaq has been swept more than Lebron but is viewed as the most dominant ever so I mean
@sosaraycharles358 true, but shaq didnt try to recruit other players to join him so he could ring chase.
Yall hater clowns think LeGOAT is overrated
Sad hater mindset 🤣
@LeGOAT829 its not hate when its fact, lebron hasn't been the best player in the nba since 2020 nor played all 82 games and hasn't won a championship since 2020.
@@anthonystevenson830 no 82 game season but is the greatest scorer ever 🤣
This doesn't even take in account Lebron's annual "secretive" trip to Miami to get "help" that the league isn't testing him for.
You mean the help MJ received from Tim Grover, who in 1989 at 29 years old got him to add 15 lbs of pure muscle without losing skill or touch in one off-season?
@@phillyphan1346 No,
I mean the help that began when Lebron returned to Cleveland in 2014 and the much-overhyped season debut was a complete flop. He was lifeless, no elevation, no explosion to his step. The drop-off was jaw-dropping and concerning to everyone. Lebron soon departed the team for "unknown reasons" and he returned jumping out of the gym and doing superhuman things again. Just weeks apart.
He continued to take this several day trip to Miami each season and is very known to team officials, fans and the league alike.
@@phillyphan1346you guys are hilariously sad, deflection and and insults, next to lies and misleading stats, thats a lebron fan.
@@wjatube What evidence do you have this took place and this is what happened? You're tin foil hat is telling you that at age 28 (in 2014), Lebron "lost" his athleticism- then proceeded to get PED's which miraculously brought back all his ability which was on display just the year prior?
Get a hobby kid
@@IsaacMSingleton1And folks like yall worship Jordan like he can do no wrong. Typical
PEDs. Just look up the BioGenesis investigation from last year (2023). Savannah is on the list. Last time I checked. She is not built like Chyna from the WWE. Sooo, who was she picking up BioGenesis products for? Hmmm.
Does the NBA do random checks like the NFL
@@addeigloriam4844even if they did, you really think Silver would let a positive test happen to Lebron at this point?
@bigbearkat2010 facts he didn't let a positive covid test stop LeBron or any Lakers teammates from playing every team's players that wasn't on the Lakers had to go to covid protocols
I looked into that. The NBA would never let the details of this get out because they will lose legitimacy and possibly sponsorship.
@alfasiger4178 That should matter. If it's wrong, it's wrong
Playoff mode = choke mode.
@@LeGOAT829 he lost 6 nba finals
@@LeGOAT829
Still waiting on those 8 promised titles for Miami.
@@ionkno20k cause he had to face those cheaters in Dallas and KD the snake with no help
@@LeGOAT829 Dallas cheaters?😂 LeChoke averaged like 14 ppg 💀
@@LeGOAT829 🤡
For every ESPN and their takes, we have Uncut Hoops, Skap Attack and Angry Old Hoops Fan. Thank you UA-cam.
Also @dreamerspro and definitely @2raw4sports...2raw4tv...2raw4media
The hater clown cult leaders
Don't forget Skap Attack too!
Bunch of haters from the Jorbum Propaganda Agency set out to tarnish LeGOATS legacy
@@hansonlee5847 nah tht dude is overly bias and lost me by being on the Lamar is a RB train so kinda hard to take his criticism of others seriously. AOH and this channel sticks to video evidence and facts
Keep preaching, LeMedia wont ever talk like this!
Lebum isn’t even near the oldest player to win a ring. Parish was 43. And Kareem did it when he was 39 and 40. That’s longevity where it really matters
Kareem finals MVP @ 39
the point you just made is so bad lol. parish played 43 games and averaged 3 points and 2 rebounds
@@11DowningStreet lol why you ain't post Kareem stats??
@@tdup191 kareem between the 1985-89 finals averages 18/6/2 and 1.5 blocks.
lebron in his most recent finals averaged 30/11/8 and is averaging 25/8/7 this season.
@@11DowningStreet nah what was Kareem Finals stats when he was 39??. You Bron groupies love telling half ass narratives
After LeBron James knew he was never going to be the NBA GOAT..he decided to be the GOAT of longevity.
@@LeGOAT829😂😂😂 The Goat of having no bag😂😂
how is the man 40 years old and still has no bag, no moves, no post up skills😂😂
@@LeGOAT829 lecunt will NEVER be the goat. 2011 killed any discussion
@@steviechampagne "no bag" but best scorer ever foh🤣🤣🤣
@@LeGOAT829 Okay what’s his best move? what’s his go-to move? he’s your goat, tell me what he can do other than charge down the court and barrel into the paint🤣🤣
He can play as long as he wants and pad those stats but it won’t change that watching him is so cringy🤣
i’m convinced you lebron nut garglers don’t even watch him play🤣🤣
@@LeGOAT829Embarrassing 🤡
LeFlop literally load managing on the court while his teammates are forced to play 4 v. 5 defense.
And then when he dunks over no one at the other end, dude flexes...
What a goddamn 🤡.
So true, don't forget he is a Drama Queen and don't forget Lechoke and Leexcuse
The inventor of load management 😂 now nobody watches the NBA because of stars load managing 5million games every season
@@petemahler4784LeBRONZ is by far my favorite 🤘
Exactly!!!! Your comment says everything about LeScam.
Always find that hilarious, same ****ty dunk, 30 points down, and flexes to the cameras.
LBJ is not in the conversation & NEVER will be.
He's so bad right now it has become comical.
And EVERYONE already knows who the GOAT is.
He is tho 😂😂
Jordans Legend owns Lebron!
Bird owns Jordan
it's not really longevity when you sit out at least 1/3 of the season 🤷♂️
And take HGH for all of your career
Exactly
@@BIGGIECHEESE31proof?
savannah and his personal trainers were exposed as being biogenesis ledger associates... I would say that shit if it wasnt official man @@zelohendricks51
Too bad he played 90 percent of the game a for his for 16 seasons
Lebum King of Longevity it still doesn't make him the GOAT BIRD is still the Greatest Small Forward and he didn't have to play 20 seasons he played long enough to the Younsters
THAAAAANK YOOOOU!!!!!!!
By Lebum and his LeBonehead fans' logic, Jokic will be the GOAT if he wins one more championship and finals mvp. What I mean is: Lebum has 2 less mvps and championships than Jordan, but Lebrickians call him the GOAT because of longevity stats. Jokic is dwarfing Lebum's triple double record almost 10 years faster so I guess him having 2 less championships and mvps than Lebum with better advanced stats makes him the GOAT. 🤔🤣
@@psychedelicvault6951facts 💯
@@psychedelicvault6951 well said 🤣
@@LeGOAT829 hater young ain't seen nothing but Lebum opinion 😩
Keep speaking facts in your great videos!
When he first joined the Lakers fools like Nick Wrong were debating on how many rings he'd need to surpass MJ. No talks at all about Kareem or anything like that. Fast forward to LeKunta getting the black beaten off his ass and suddenly "rings don't tell the whole story" while while longevity stats suddenly hold way more weight. That clown Rich Paul didn't just randomly start spewing nonsense trying to devalue rings for no reason.
Rings are a team accomplishment, not individual. Rings do not tell the story- context matters. If context did not matter- Bill Russell would be the GOAT.
@@phillyphan1346Convenient that "context matters" on stuff Lebron is coming up short with
@@bigbearkat2010 Convenient it is the same argument for Jordan being the GOAT over Russell... goofy
you're so dumb it hurts@@phillyphan1346
@@phillyphan1346of course rings don't matter alone. MJ still obliterates lechoke on accolades and offensive and defensive skill set and efficiency. If MJ padded his stats like lechoke and cared about total points, he would've reached that feat in less years than bron (despite not playing in 3pt era) and bron would still chasing him.😂😂
LeFrauds longevity hurts him since he is in his 21st year and still only has 3 real championships.
I taught he had 4? Or do you not count the la one?
@@rossdoonan6220He's not counting that one hence "real championships."
LeBron doesn't have a legitimate championship he has 3 superteam rings and a Disney bubble gum tournament ring Jokic and Giannis 1 ring is worth more than all of LeBron's copper rings combined
@@mr.perfect1749 didn’t Jordan have a super team too with pippin and Rodman and also having the greatest coach?
Also should the nba just not have played that season at all? Did you watch any of those “bubble” games?
@rossdoonan6220 yeah, it was the 7th easiest title run in the last 50 years, and their competition was largely injured, in a tournament where players were either banned or opted from competition all together. It was a bogus title
LeBron’s longevity is a double edged sword. Sure he’s managed to maintain his prime for a freakish amount of time, despite this, he still doesn’t touch the number of accolades and accomplishments Mj got. It didn’t take MJ 20 years to get his 6 rings, 6 FMVPs and 10 scoring titles…it only took 13 (really 11 if you count his injuries) years
6 but only 6 finals . you see how longevity matter over perfection as it becomes harder the older you get to maintain elite status that long in any capacity . . Also the laws of average says the longer you play the harder it is to maintain perfection. lets say you give Jordan 6 more finals only then could you even compare the two and give a fair assessment of said outcome.
Reggie Miller is so cringe when he commentates Lakers games. I just watch the games on mute now
How does playing longer but winning less help the goat conversation 😅
Great point
Because we have Bronsexuals like Shannon Sharpe using his platform perpetuating the "longer peak" narrative to peddle Bron's Kool Aid.
100%, 4-10 finals record w/2 sweeps on 3 superteams. No MVP in 11 years and #1 in turnovers, not a good resume for GOAT.
@@marcodraven9778Denial is crazy, good to know he lives in ur head that much
@@headoh8558 Yup, you should stop drinking the kool-aid from Espn, you may wake up one day and see reality.
MJ23🐐
These guys get 25 points but are -30 because they don’t defend.
You try defending the skilled perimeter players today ''one on one'' and tell me how it turns out mr defense expert lol. Yall don't know what you are even talking about just listen to other idiots.
That clip of bron going ballistic over the non-foul call is ultimate cringe.
U must’ve never seen Luka
If that's "cringe" to you I feel bad for you
How is Jordan's Wizards years underwhelming? He set a lot of records for his age. If he wanted to get titles, he would be in the Lakers, the Spurs or the Trailblazers.
Also do not compare MJ with the underachieving stat padder with the losing record. Thank you.
Probably because MJ's offensive game on the Wizards was solely post-up fade aways which is why he had ghastly efficiency numbers and also didn't make the playoffs either year.
There is zero doubt which player is better at age 38 and 39. Zero.
@@phillyphan1346 You missed the point. MJ wasn't interested to necessarily win championship with the Wizard as co-owner. You forgot he came out from three years retirement with known knee issues and broken ribs from his practice with Ron Artest. The reason MJ Wizard did not make to the playoff is injury. Let remind that Wizard were on the pace to reach the playoff before MJ got injured. Knee injury are no joke.
didnt make the playoffs once
@ryanr20091 he was injured and was about to make the playoffs before injury with a team that has Noone. He actually got them from 0 to a very good spot until he got injured.
Lebron cannot make the playoffs with multiple stacked teams, a play in tournament and during a weaker era.
@@phillyphan1346 MJ was the best player in 38 and 39 by far.
I was giving lebron the longevity argument but when I found out Abdul-Jabbar won FMVP @38 it changed my mind!!
Longevity and finals appearances wasn't really celebrated as much until Lebron came along.
Kareem made 10 appearances and won 6.
Lebron made 10 appearances and won 4.
Never in the history of any sport has losing in the finals been celebrated until Lebron James came along.
Why do you care much about a finals mvps. You do understand that finals mvp doesn't necessarily mean better player . Iguodala won final mvp anything voted on is subjective young man
Excellent summary as always!
The greatest only with 4 rings? This game about winning, not just playing.
LeBron spent his first seven years playing on crap Cavs teams and still managed to take them to a finals. Plus his competition was tougher than Jordan's. Jordan only played against excellent Finals teams twice in his career (the Jazz).
In that case bill Russell is the goat cuz he has the most rings
@@ChiSportsNut18all the teams tge Bulls faced in the finals were great.
The whole play-offs count. The Bulls played better competition to get to the finals
@@ChiSportsNut18 Oh, so some Bron fan is here. No it's actually the opposite. Lebron's eastern era was the weakest.
WhATTT?!!! Tougher?!!! How many 50 plus teams did the Cavs faced during Lebron's tenure? Layoff the drugs kid. The Earth is not flat.@@ChiSportsNut18
I could play in the nba if nobody makes me play defense and the rules get bent for my weaknesses. But it wouldn’t be fun for y’all to watch. So in conclusion nothing would change from the current NBA era
why doesnt anyone talk about how he has missed over 140 games since he joined the lakers??
Injuries mate
Steph actually goes hard on defense it’s not his fault he’s not that gifted
It's funny bc Steph average more steals than LeBron, Kobe, prime gary Payton, Tony Allen etc for his career without the physical advantage
@@peezydabeatmonster8112Steph has a steals titles
@@peezydabeatmonster8112 hes a guard dumbass . maybe you didnt know that guards get the most steals on average
Be careful. You know LeBron fans hate context.
Yall some hater clowns
Sorry goofies cant appreciate greatness while we have it
Nothing in my comment displays hate 🤣 You children do hate context. Which is why you’re mad right now 🤷🏾♂️
@@Realest1ne im not mad, im just saying that you're hating on the true GOAT while we have him which is sad
@@LeGOAT829 He’s not the goat lmao And it’s actually way more about hating his fans than hating him, because I don’t. My comment dissed y’all, not him lol
@@Realest1ne you're just mad his fan base has always got his back even through Jorbum fans constant propaganda campaigns trying to tarnish his legacy🤣
Lemme mention one more thing: Timeouts and game breaks... Game today is so diluted it is crazy... One attack and timeout, FTs, checking replay, adds timeout, etc. And all of that lasts for so long because there's always some kind of show during it...
The NBA's "product" is spiraling down the "drain" with supersonic speed.
Do consecutive game streaks count if you load manage and play only 55 games per year for the past 6 years? Bronze's consecutive 10+ scoring streak should have been over with load management.
KOBE was the last great 2 way player...
Can you imagine showing up 75% of your work days?
You wouldn’t have a job.
I can't knock Curry. He was never all world on defense, but he at least gave effort. He used to be constantly hunted on defensenuntil he greatly improved. Durant plays defense as well.
This is false, in the playoffs Curry is ALWAYS hunted, that has not stopped teams from ISO'ing him every opportunity in the post season. Even in the regular season game against LAL, Curry was pulled from the game in a few sequences which were defensive possessions at the end of the game. That speaks volumes.
@phillyphan1346 you proved my point. He isn't actively doing nothing. That is the point. He's playing in both ends of the floor.
@@jaymac4448 No I refuted your point. He still gets hunted to this day and he literally is being pulled on defensive sequences- so clearly he did not improve like you said. Is today opposite day??
@phillyphan1346 it's okay to not like him. But to say he didn't improve on defense is clearly just unintelligent. Plus, the topic of the whole discussion clown is today's superstars not putting in the work on both ends of the floor.
@@phillyphan1346he gets "hunted" Because he always has elite wing defenders on the floor with him, so it would be stupid to attack those guys over curry. Your king gets hunted too, kd wanted LeBron and lebron ran like the coward he is
If it’s so easy why didn’t MJ do it just imagine waking up miserable just to hate on another man
Playoff mode get's swept by the chubby kid from Siberia 😂
Joking is like that, them Europeans can ball
Jordan was that gamer that was the best even when nerfed by terrible internet connection. Lebron is that gamer that complains he was nerfed by his state-of-the-art internet connection
Players today are STRONGER that is why 65 games is enough.🤔🤔?
Check out how strong Wilt Chamberlain was.
@@MarkRhine-tn3kx lmao wilt played in the worst era. Shit is not even an argument
@@based3716the worst era by far is this era followed by the time between Wilt’s retirement and Magic and Bird coming in and saving the league. The time between Wilt’s retirement and Magic and Bird coming in had playoffs and finals that were not on live tv but shown tape delayed because the league was too thuggish but this era of Primadonnas is worse.
Only talked about Wilt's extreme strength, not his basketball skills. Arnold would not lift in the same gym as Wilt.
Great info with the back 2 backs being played!! I always tell people Lebron James has not played more than 70 games in LA, hasn’t made an all defensive team in his 30’s and hasn’t won an MVP since he was 28…but they talk “longevity”
No defense and only playing 60 games.
Just like curry
Also … Mj was in playoff mode in practice …But Kobe ? That savage was in playoff mode in his sleep
This channel is dope
Jordan played 82 games 8 times in his Bulls career and 9 times total. He played another 2 seasons where he played 80-81, and one more where he played 78 games. The only three seasons he played under 78 games were the season early in his career when he broke his foot, his baseball sojourn, and his first year in Washington when he was injured and missed the last 22 games of the season. In his last season, he played 82 games. Jordan had an attitude of "My team is playing a game that I could help them win, so I'm playing'.
If you load manage, you aren't the GOAT.
Its manufactured logevity, he doesnt play to play, he plays to carefully manipulate narratives and bump his personal stats (often in garbage time)
Bingo! "Often in garbage time".
LeBron James 48 games Michael Jordan’s 41 games 38 age 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Lebron rests all season long. And has over 200+ games he didn’t play in the regular season.
Just look it up He averages 71 games played a season. In the last 20 seasons that is 220 games he didn’t play. That’s more than two seasons worth of games. (164). Bron is working on his third regular season worth of games off. If he misses 26 games this season he’d have 3 seasons worth of games off.
Oh and dont give me the playoff’s games BS.
Plenty of players played all 82 games and went deep in playoffs.
If bron is resting so he can play more playoff games than that means he’s not capable of playing full 82 and going all the way. So his longevity is manufactured.
I could see it if LBJ was diminished and forced to come off the bench. He acts as if he's still in his prime with the same moves. Mj adjusted his game later on and became a midrange assassin
Jordan did have a playoff mode...but it was even more intense than what he did in the regular season...
It kills me watching your footage. So many uncontested dunks and layups, so many times Lebron's teammates give up a clear shot for him to get more points, so much travelling, charging, and offensive fouls that never get called...
Longevity can actually hurt a player as well. As they start falling from their peak their athleticism can also start dropping off. Such as being turned over more, a lower fg%, ppg falling off and so on hurts their career stats.
No matter how long Lebron plays, 2011 still happened. "Can he stop Jason Terry?" No, Magic, he couldn't.
Ty. That’s my biggest complaint with LeBron he’s doesn’t play hard all the time. Picks and chooses when he plays hard.
Genuine question, how is losing finals worse than not making the playoffs?
Thats actually a ridiculously retarded question...LeBron has also missed the playoffs when he got to the Lakers with a far more talented team that Mike had in Washington...And even though Mike played with crackheads and bums his first few years in Chicago he NEVER missed the playoffs prior to getting Scottie. Lebron didn't make the playoffs until his 3rd year in the league and also had far more talent in Cleveland than Mike had in his first years...What are you talking about?
It isnt
You bring up a fantastic point, as usual, about Peaks changing the way a player is remembered. Like MJ, Kobe, Kawhi, Giannis, Shaq, Barkley, Bird, etc
To make regular season games interesting, those games should count in playoff series. Then, there would not exist play off mode at all.
For example: Denver have to play 3 times against the Lakers, now it's 2-0, let's pretend it's 3-0 by the end of regular season (probably will be). If they match in the playoffs, they start 3-0, but instead of 7 games, it's 9 games (even if they had to play 4 games in regular season (or 2 in case of different conference teams), 9 games would be fine in my opinion, and home and away games would be scheduled acounting the games played in the regular season).
And to make all star game interesting too, the winning conference has court advantadge in the finals, wouldn't matter the regular season record, since oponents calendar in regular season differ quite a bit from one conference to the other.
This might be the dumbest thing I’ve seen
@@Dreybaconjr If my idea is the dumbest thing you've seen you might be partially blind.
This is how it works in European and World championships (the real ones) between first and second rounds.
@@AverageGuy28 1. The all star game for home field is a terrible idea, as the whole point of that is for the players to just have fun. No one wants to try their hardest and risk getting injured. 2. Why would you change something that’s worked fine for like 60 years? Then there would just be more asterisks being put on everything.
@@Dreybaconjr Ratings ara at an all time low, so it's not working "fine", hence the introduction of in season tournament.
No one have fun playing and much less watching the all star game anymore.
this the first video you’ve made that changed my mind on a few things
MJ fan here. To be fair, longevity is impressive and not for nothing since this is an entertainment business and the longer you are able to perform as a player at a high level the better. However, to me this plays very little in terms of who I think is the better player or the more accomplished player. Prime vs Prime (who is going to compare the non-prime years?), I don't think anyone will argue that MJ wasn't the greatest we have ever seen and also the greatest winner during that period of time. Not only did he dominate as an individual, his team also won as the result of his dominance. So while I give Lebron a lot of the credit for playing this long, and rightfully so, it would have only been a huge factor if MJ's career was cut short by injury or something. The thing is, MJ had a relatively long career for someone from his era, so I don't think it is a negative when compared to Lebron who has modern medicine and modern training regime to support that, not to mention MJ has the edge in term of games played per season. Being there night in and night out is what MJ sacrificed for longevity.
MJ cared about the fans in that he knew they were spending their hard earned money to see him and the rest of the stars. Not playing when you are 100 percent capable just because you want to rest or load manage is cheating the fans who pay to watch you play.
15 seasons is average compared to Kobe Kareem LeBron and Malone . this is where jordan fallls short and yes his bulls years were great for the time being, but he played less in his wizard's years because he didn't even make the playoffs once lol .
you see the problem with most Jordan fans is they want to discount longevity because it doesn't favor Jordon as this mythical statue for everyone to worship .
The truth is he had is easier playing less games seasons and playoff games and finals games and doesnt compare to kobe Lebron and kareeem . remember Lebron started when jordan career ended so he's really not a modern day superstar is he ? Thats another mistake jordon fane make judging him like he just got here 10 years or even15 ago. Lebron has overlapped several eras and had to adapt to the modern era . you see how that works?
@@ryanr20091 oh no one is saying longevity isn't important, I said it in my post that we shouldn't discount it. However, what we are saying is that MJ played more game per season (if you want to include those deep playoff runs Lebron had we can, and not for nothing MJ made playoffs every year except those 2 Wizard years, Lebron has missed his fair shares of playoffs too) and less rest in those era. Again, not Lebron's fault that this is how it is now, but you can't say that the way the game works doesn't prolong players career with less back to back game and more rest and load management. Thats why you can't compare players from different eras, and MJ himself said it many times that without Kareem without magic and without Dr J there will be no Michael Jordan, and therefore it is unfair to have a goat. Lebron on the other hand has self proclaimed to be the goat numerous times, so you get that why people are talking smack?
@@ryanr20091 and when he retired the first time for baseball, he retired to play another sport. So it wasn't like he took 2 years off to rest, he was getting his wear and tears elsewhere so it wasn't like he was just sitting at home. Not to mention if you play sports before, sitting at home for a couple years instead of working out constantly does the opposite to your body, you age that much faster cuz the lack of activities. What modern day regime does is finding that balance between playing and resting, those back to back games take an extreme toll on your body so the league is regulating that out much more than before. Think of it like this. If you have to play 3 games in 6 days, playing it back to back to back and rest 3 days vs playing those 3 games with 1 day of rest in between, what do you think is better for your body? You can't reverse the tolls those games took on your body with however more rest, that's just how the body works, it reaches a threshold and it starts breaking down.
Much better drugs are leading to longevity.
They did load manage back in the 90s they did it by managing minutes, I remember back in 72 win season often times the starters sat out during the forth quarter so the incentive was to kick the crap out of teams to get rest and keep your bench active so they can be used in the playoffs effectively. It's retarded what they do now and it just hurts players legacies because they don't face the rigors of a 82 game season with actual defense. Man they really need to re assess their product.
What really aggravates me: those ESPN and Fox Sports guys, who are (mostly) dumb as rocks...
(remember Nick Wright, making the "case" that Lebron's last two rings count double?)
...while Uncut Hoops and some others are on f-ing UA-cam, and they do the REAL journalistic work.
Great analysis, as always.
Curry’s defense is above average!
LeGOAT clear Curry especially on defense
@@LeGOAT829 lebum never led the league in steals or blocks but Steph has and Steph average more steals for his career than LeBron and kobe lol the facts don't agree with u Steph has a steals titles lebron don't
@@peezydabeatmonster8112 cmon man no way youre saying steph is a better defender then lebron
@@based3716 i didn't say he was a better defender but I think he better then LeBron specifically steph better at steals LeBron better at blocks but LeBron rarely even try even tho he got all the physical advantages that's worst when u don't even have the effort
@@peezydabeatmonster8112Steph was never a prospect for dpoy
Reduced workload! No tough, physical defense. Heck, Wilt played MORE minutes than there are minutes in regulation time.
Excellent video and ditto points. 👍👏
I'd argue Curry isn't THAT bad of a defender as you play him out to be, I mean, he definitely tries on that end (unlike LeCone), but he's just not great at it. 😊
Exactly, he’s too short to get the respect he deserves on the defensive side cause a bad defender isn’t winning a contested rebound against Anthony Davis or stopping a backdown in the post against nurkic
how many all defensive teams has Curry made
@@ryanr20091 dude what a ridiculous argument. 80 % of players don't make all defense teams, doesn't mean they're "bad at defense". 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@dvdv8197 Didnt say he was a bad defender but due explain what makes a defender ''good' since according to you all defensive teams aren't a great indication as to how good or bad a defender is .
@@ryanr20091 I wouldn't say he's a good defender, I'd say he's average. Thing is, being motivated and trying on that end gets you a long way, especially in today's NBA.
what they like to do is use seasons played instead of AGE , it’s other greats that balled after 35+
Dont forget the boatloads of roids hes on
Dont forget the multiple rounds of golf and the gambling/drinking/cigar smoking that Mike did on the regular.
HGH, testosterone, and EPO.
Epo we don’t know but the other two were proven he has
@@Squirrelpadrenever proven dickhead plus the FBI cleared Lebrons name in that stupid case anyway🤡🤣
Longevity isn't shit when you are using PEDs!! Look at that man's head!! His build compared to 10 yrs ago. BIG changes
Steroids as well
This is the definition of quantity over quality.
Lebum is a joke. He will never be close to the GOAT MJ
Lebum chilin rn
Number 5: the rampant use of PEDs the league ignores
Bro whole life purpose is hating on lebron
Jordan had it way tougher omg 😱. You are an excellent source for correct information.
If having the all-time scoring record makes him the greatest scorer, then does having the all-time turnover record make him the worst ball handler?
Add the all time field goal misses leader by the time he is done 😂 now he is the worst shooter ever as well
@@IsaacMSingleton1but right now kobe got that record tho, is he the worst shooter of all time?
Most of his turnovers are stolen passes
@@thefunguy5069 so....bad passes
@@based3716 LJ is only 175 shots away from Kobe's record, I'm confident he will surpass him. ESPN won't announce it.
Kevin Durant tore an Achilles and is playing near peak at 35. 20 years ago you tore an Achilles and you were that old of you were lucky you could still be a role player. Not saying Lebron's longevity isn't impressive, he's put a lot of work and money into staying this good but this is probably the new normal for guys who put that effort in.
Don't forget about his in-season tourney title 🏆🎖
That BS wasn't a title, there is only 1 title and that the last team standing at the end of the year
imagine Lebron taking a 1.5 years break in the middle of his career like MJ
A whole channel to hate and discredit the guy, sad life 😂😂
very sad
People have forgotten quality over quantity
I’m not the biggest Lebron fan, but gawd dayum bruh. How many Lebron vids you gonna make? Just seems like you’re bashing him at this point
He's not bashing LeBron. He's bashing the idiots who insist on claiming that LeBron is better than Jordan, and it's necessary.
Give the people what they want
not bashing but exposing the truth that people see but to many people are
blinded by LeMedia
@@lizomkhizenah, he's bashing Lebron and his fans
@@lizomkhizeLeBron fans are just as insecure as he is, so they feel the need to comment on videos where facts are shown and cry about “hating.”
You make a great point, never thought about how MJ played every game and every possession. I always felt like lbj's greatness was embelished.
Aww lawd, another video where this guy makes a video to hate on Lebron 🤡
but is he lying tho?
@@lolcopexxbro to make a whole channel dedicated to this is weird. And he vids keep popping up on my recommended because I watch lots of other basketball channels. This dude is trash
@@lolcopexxLebron *pisses 3 times a day*
Uncut Hoops: “MJ pissed twice the amounts of times per day as much compared to LBJ, look at the stats” 🤡🤦♂️
Truth hurts
Hes the ultra hater clown