We rarely see what goes on behind the scenes of the NHL nowadays, documentaries like that all have been successful same with Winter classic 24/7. We need more of this especially GM meetings and how coaches prepare and how they coach the teams that would be a good show.
Thanks for uploading this! I've been searching everywhere for this full documentary. I've called CBC and the production company asking if I could buy it but it's not available. If you have the other parts, please upload them! It would be a service to us all.
Watching this with nearly 25 years retrospect is really interesting, in particular what the problems were back then and how they were addressed over time. The 2004-05 lockout was what really forced the NHL to do something about lack of offence and player salaries, both addressed in this TV feature. It took them eight years and a lost season for both the players and the owners to come to real agreements over rule changes which favoured speed, like taking away the two-line pass and calling more penalties. More importantly from the league and players' perspective, it took them the lockout and another one to get a salary cap was also brought in to eventually create more of a 50-50 revenue sharing agreement between players and owners. Easy to say from my desk, but I think they could have been done better. It didn't take this much for other leagues. The other issue, fighting, has not so much been solved but curtailed due to the long-term impact of the rule changes favouring speed over enforcement. The science around head trauma was also not nearly as developed then as it is now, which has also created rule changes and changes around how players hit in the head are treated and how team physicians are viewed. (Even things like pain management fall into this.) The professional game is vastly improved in my opinion from where it was during this feature. It still has a lot to deal with.
I agree wholeheartedly. I had always liked hockey, but it came secondary to Rugby and Soccer. So, it was a passing interest. I've been following it regularly for 5-6 years now, and I am glad I am watching in the current era, and bypassed the freaking dead puck bullshit. Very, very, very, interesting what Hull was saying. From what I have seen, I think the Salary cap is an excellent idea. I also like how new franchises are given the means to be successful sooner, though I am dubious about the high-hand Vegas received, but thats also clever ownership. A lot more needs to be done for Canadian teams to retain players and compete with U.S franchises. Thats a bug bear of mine. Its ludicrous, a Canadian team has not won in how many years. Moreover, how many more expansion teams can you have? NHL IMO was actually great with lesser teams.
so cool to see gm's, players and scouts talk for real, no bs like in interviews. i know they have 24/7 and the nhl had a few shows like that on tv now, but this is a really awesome video. thanks!
I actually loved the puck that was lit up along the near boards. I feal they threw the baby out with the bath water on that one. Regarding following the puck...with the new huge 4 k TV's it,s a different world from back then.
It’s sad how hockey has gone from the era of the Frank McGee genre to this. Growth of the sport is of course great, but not at the expense of being controlled by marketers, brand sponsorships, and the whole list of the wonderful market wonder. When your an NHL hockey player, and have mandatory training by a “marketing consultant,”something seems off. Get on the ice, smash the puck, win games. That’s pretty solid marketing basics. Brett Hull, who actually plays in the modern hockey era, said what was true, but of course, the marketing team took charge.
The "Problems" were soooo not expansion but Mario had it right all along...Clutching and grabbing was the issue. the other was and still is...monster goalies with monster gear. I actually think they should move all three bars 1 inch along with keeping controls on the size of goaltender gear,
Some one should have informed Scott Steven's about Lindros being the next one. Instead of knocking his block off. I just hope they don't continue, to water the NHL down, cause I can barely watch the NFL.
They talk about growing the game and yet there are blackouts, everything is unaffordable, there are almost no youth programs available in communities. These dudes pat themselves on the back and call it a day.
The Messier trade was a lose lose. The Rangers lost and Mark ripped his new dressing room apart and it REALLY did not work. I herd it straight from GINO who offered to throw down right in the room..
I really wonder if there has ever been a need to market nhl players or other professional athletes the way they have. They're incredibly talented and we're naturally attracted to such skills. We'll come to seem them play and we'll make up our own minds about the level of play and the level of integrity the players have. They're so worried and so over analytical.
It’s easy to be nostalgic about this era but this was a dark age for the NHL. Clutch and grab, two line pass, low skill, one referee, obstruction. It was a terrible product. 98-06 was horrible hockey. The quality of the product after the 2005 lockout improved ten fold. Attendance tells the story. It’s never been more popular than it is now.
We still have fighting (which is a good thing) but no longer are there pure enforcers punching themselves into brain damage and an early grave. You have to be able to keep up and play if you want a roster spot.
These Executives argue with each other until their blue in the face about Marketing the game better and reaching a wider audience blah blah blah. All they had to do is get out of their own way, call the rulebook the way it's written and let the skill players do their thing. These guys are far to smart for that though.
enjoy your small-time socialist developing country, what is canada just a giant ice sheet with a handful of shit cities thousands of miles apart? fyi my employer takes away $15 a month and i get full coverage...you'll likely pay 10x hidden in your high socialist tax rate for the same privledge infact worse because your doctors wont be as skilled
+Joe Freeman Have you noticed that they speak a little different in that country where English comes from, you know England? Why don't you just go ahead and complain about that, or American English while you're on the subject
+Joe Freeman From your comments in this thread I honestly feel bad for you. Not sure why you have so much hate for an entire country that is extremely passive. Your iq must be wildly low if your first thought to fixing an accent you don't condone is to simply shoot people in the face. I feel bad for you.
Mike Milbury is the biggest clown. One clip....players are complaining about hooking and holding, shoot the puck...so soft. Next clip with the head of officiating he's complaining they aren't calling obstruction.
Lindros, the next one!!! Right more like asshole that tried to change the meaning off first pick in the draft!! Great documentary, but I never expected to laugh so hard hearing the “the next one”.
The number one reasn why goals went down was because the best atheletes wanted to and became goaltenders. The golas did not stop going because o my cheayer inside my leg pad protecting my unprotected side of my fucking leg. I have over 300 hockey games on dvd from all era's and I was a goalie in the 80's through 90's. LOOK at the quality of goaltending from the 70's to 1996,are you kidding me? Quite frankly in the 70's it was Tretiak, Esposito, Druzzila and Parent..then everyone else; and Tretiak was FAR beyond any of the cats I mentioned. Tretiak was also the teacher or Misers Brodeur and Belfour. Oh yeah, it was not because my Devils DOMINATED by trapping because other teams trapped in fact they got it from the 70's HABS...."THE FLYING FRENCHMAN" TRAPED people. It's just that their transition game was so awesome you the layman did not see it. I am fucking sick of it, blame this team, blame the goalie pads ALL bullshit. OH yeah as a goalie maybe one reason I am wearing bigger pads (PS Martin Brodeur wore the SMALLEST pads in the league) because everyone now has an aluminum stick and fourth line guys now have shots over 95PMH. Why do I have to cut down on my pads but their sticks can be lethal weapons. Go to MLB and put aluminum bats in the league and watch the line drives back to the pitcher cause deaths.
We rarely see what goes on behind the scenes of the NHL nowadays, documentaries like that all have been successful same with Winter classic 24/7. We need more of this especially GM meetings and how coaches prepare and how they coach the teams that would be a good show.
Miss this era of hockey immensely!
Thanks for uploading this! I've been searching everywhere for this full documentary. I've called CBC and the production company asking if I could buy it but it's not available. If you have the other parts, please upload them! It would be a service to us all.
I remember watching this as a kid, i would be so cool to see all 6 episodes.
Someone uploaded the rest of the parts on youtube
more episodes please! this series was awesome, especially the episode where they chronicle the Nagano Olympics
Watching this with nearly 25 years retrospect is really interesting, in particular what the problems were back then and how they were addressed over time.
The 2004-05 lockout was what really forced the NHL to do something about lack of offence and player salaries, both addressed in this TV feature. It took them eight years and a lost season for both the players and the owners to come to real agreements over rule changes which favoured speed, like taking away the two-line pass and calling more penalties. More importantly from the league and players' perspective, it took them the lockout and another one to get a salary cap was also brought in to eventually create more of a 50-50 revenue sharing agreement between players and owners.
Easy to say from my desk, but I think they could have been done better. It didn't take this much for other leagues.
The other issue, fighting, has not so much been solved but curtailed due to the long-term impact of the rule changes favouring speed over enforcement. The science around head trauma was also not nearly as developed then as it is now, which has also created rule changes and changes around how players hit in the head are treated and how team physicians are viewed. (Even things like pain management fall into this.)
The professional game is vastly improved in my opinion from where it was during this feature. It still has a lot to deal with.
I agree wholeheartedly. I had always liked hockey, but it came secondary to Rugby and Soccer. So, it was a passing interest. I've been following it regularly for 5-6 years now, and I am glad I am watching in the current era, and bypassed the freaking dead puck bullshit. Very, very, very, interesting what Hull was saying. From what I have seen, I think the Salary cap is an excellent idea. I also like how new franchises are given the means to be successful sooner, though I am dubious about the high-hand Vegas received, but thats also clever ownership. A lot more needs to be done for Canadian teams to retain players and compete with U.S franchises. Thats a bug bear of mine. Its ludicrous, a Canadian team has not won in how many years. Moreover, how many more expansion teams can you have? NHL IMO was actually great with lesser teams.
so cool to see gm's, players and scouts talk for real, no bs like in interviews. i know they have 24/7 and the nhl had a few shows like that on tv now, but this is a really awesome video. thanks!
Thanks so much for finally uploading part 2!
thats awesome that the gms still play ✊🏽🤙🏽 makes you understand why you still care about and love the game
16:24 Holy shi*t I'm pretty sure I had that Paul Kariya toy. What a trip to see now.
Really cool seeing my Paul Kariya action figure at 16:23 :-)
Please upload all parts of the documentary series!
I actually loved the puck that was lit up along the near boards. I feal they threw the baby out with the bath water on that one. Regarding following the puck...with the new huge 4 k TV's it,s a different world from back then.
It’s sad how hockey has gone from the era of the Frank McGee genre to this. Growth of the sport is of course great, but not at the expense of being controlled by marketers, brand sponsorships, and the whole list of the wonderful market wonder.
When your an NHL hockey player, and have mandatory training by a “marketing consultant,”something seems off. Get on the ice, smash the puck, win games. That’s pretty solid marketing basics.
Brett Hull, who actually plays in the modern hockey era, said what was true, but of course, the marketing team took charge.
as long as the advertisahs are happy, that's all dat matters
The Leafs still played in The Garden when this came out. Wow.
The "Problems" were soooo not expansion but Mario had it right all along...Clutching and grabbing was the issue. the other was and still is...monster goalies with monster gear. I actually think they should move all three bars 1 inch along with keeping controls on the size of goaltender gear,
Some one should have informed Scott Steven's about Lindros being the next one. Instead of knocking his block off. I just hope they don't continue, to water the NHL down, cause I can barely watch the NFL.
They talk about growing the game and yet there are blackouts, everything is unaffordable, there are almost no youth programs available in communities. These dudes pat themselves on the back and call it a day.
"I had my goals against average ruined by Jeremy roenick" 23:39
What was that 10-year old Martin's surname?
Hate milbury's shirt on 34:25
Ah yes, Canucks legend Mark Messier
The Messier trade was a lose lose. The Rangers lost and Mark ripped his new dressing room apart and it REALLY did not work. I herd it straight from GINO who offered to throw down right in the room..
@Steve stevenson i have on film
I really wonder if there has ever been a need to market nhl players or other professional athletes the way they have. They're incredibly talented and we're naturally attracted to such skills. We'll come to seem them play and we'll make up our own minds about the level of play and the level of integrity the players have. They're so worried and so over analytical.
9:00 but if you give an honest opinion about ANYTHING, we will blacklist you.
It’s easy to be nostalgic about this era but this was a dark age for the NHL. Clutch and grab, two line pass, low skill, one referee, obstruction. It was a terrible product. 98-06 was horrible hockey. The quality of the product after the 2005 lockout improved ten fold. Attendance tells the story. It’s never been more popular than it is now.
We still have fighting (which is a good thing) but no longer are there pure enforcers punching themselves into brain damage and an early grave. You have to be able to keep up and play if you want a roster spot.
These Executives argue with each other until their blue in the face about Marketing the game better and reaching a wider audience blah blah blah. All they had to do is get out of their own way, call the rulebook the way it's written and let the skill players do their thing. These guys are far to smart for that though.
why cant canadians say the word out or about?
+Joe Freeman cuz ur a dum dum
typical stereotype....
enjoy your small-time socialist developing country, what is canada just a giant ice sheet with a handful of shit cities thousands of miles apart? fyi my employer takes away $15 a month and i get full coverage...you'll likely pay 10x hidden in your high socialist tax rate for the same privledge infact worse because your doctors wont be as skilled
+Joe Freeman Have you noticed that they speak a little different in that country where English comes from, you know England? Why don't you just go ahead and complain about that, or American English while you're on the subject
+Joe Freeman From your comments in this thread I honestly feel bad for you. Not sure why you have so much hate for an entire country that is extremely passive. Your iq must be wildly low if your first thought to fixing an accent you don't condone is to simply shoot people in the face. I feel bad for you.
WONDER HOW CBC WILL DO IN THE 2020s?
Hate the way Brett hull is crying about his stick.
What a pity Don Cherry was treated the way he was.
Mike Milbury is the biggest clown. One clip....players are complaining about hooking and holding, shoot the puck...so soft. Next clip with the head of officiating he's complaining they aren't calling obstruction.
Lindros, the next one!!!
Right more like asshole that tried to change the meaning off first pick in the draft!!
Great documentary, but I never expected to laugh so hard hearing the “the next one”.
Look yourself in the mirror and you’ll laugh even more. Lindros is one of the best players ever.
The number one reasn why goals went down was because the best atheletes wanted to and became goaltenders. The golas did not stop going because o my cheayer inside my leg pad protecting my unprotected side of my fucking leg. I have over 300 hockey games on dvd from all era's and I was a goalie in the 80's through 90's. LOOK at the quality of goaltending from the 70's to 1996,are you kidding me? Quite frankly in the 70's it was Tretiak, Esposito, Druzzila and Parent..then everyone else; and Tretiak was FAR beyond any of the cats I mentioned. Tretiak was also the teacher or Misers Brodeur and Belfour. Oh yeah, it was not because my Devils DOMINATED by trapping because other teams trapped in fact they got it from the 70's HABS...."THE FLYING FRENCHMAN" TRAPED people. It's just that their transition game was so awesome you the layman did not see it. I am fucking sick of it, blame this team, blame the goalie pads ALL bullshit. OH yeah as a goalie maybe one reason I am wearing bigger pads (PS Martin Brodeur wore the SMALLEST pads in the league) because everyone now has an aluminum stick and fourth line guys now have shots over 95PMH. Why do I have to cut down on my pads but their sticks can be lethal weapons. Go to MLB and put aluminum bats in the league and watch the line drives back to the pitcher cause deaths.
Lindros 230lb? Bullshit. 210 max.