Content Creator Breaks ToS & Bungie Threatens Ban!
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Well if anyone breaks the TOS then is a BAN. Doesn't matter if you are a content creator or someone else famous. No restriction, it should be a straight BAN.
I brake ToS…I get banned… they do it on stream and they get a fucking warning… bungie is a joke
I literally just read that post and the reply from the D2 team is appalling. Streamers get a warning and a free pass while other players who break the TOS get an immediate ban, Ridiculous. Mega favoritism.
i see people using this shit all day in destiny and they dont get ban. I even do tickets on the site with proof and still nothing. Bungie is a joke in this type of stuff
Lol people don’t get immediate bans for this. It takes FOREVER for PvE players to get banned. You’re clearly a kinderguardian @orionfrost
actually i think its good they did so on a public forum
Hard agree. Everyone should be held to the same standards. Streamers and content creators like to pretend that they don't get special treatment from Bungie. But when you hear about them getting invited to summits, getting their banned accounts reinstated in only a few days, getting warnings for cheating or even being able to bully community managers into disclosing ban reasons you know that isn't the truth.
If anything, content creators should be held to a higher standard because they have a platform, not given leniency. They act as a voice for the community and the things they say and do can have an impact on the game and the playerbase as much as they'd like to pretend they don't.
Yes he’s technically breaking TOS. How this is different is that it isn’t affecting anyone else in the game. He’s in the raid solo. He’s not selling a service (carry). If anything, this video acts as a demonstration to Bungie how awful latency effects their game
If he gets a warning, everyone should get a warning.
Ty
Except Leopard isn’t affecting anyone because he’s in the raid solo. If he was selling carry services, it would be different. But he’s not
@@WTFwhitePPL except him openly showing that "he just network manipulated the glyphs" now means other people know how to do it without using programs like netlimiter etc. him advertising it is enough to effect others and legit runs now because a lot of people in this day and age use VPNs even for legit purposes
THIS THIS THIS!!!!! Plenty of people out there got banned with no right of reply, no warnings, no time out. Bungie really hypocritical. Their zero tolerance on players in many situations really sux. According to their rules, Leopard should be banned, end of story.
@@WTFwhitePPL that doesn't matter
no one should get preferential treatment, Bungie should just outright ban them for breaking ToS and sight a screenshot of those tweets are to why
the fact he got warned ironically makes them look worse than what they would if they'd just issued the ban, because now everyone will feel like they should get a warning for anything even if it is something that breaks ToS because "big streamer man got a warning"
Cheating in video games is not worth it by using a VPN or cheat Tools etc, i mean in the end you lose everything you have earned over the years.
He broke TOS posted a video of him breaking TOS bungie said this is breaking TOS then admits (jokeingly or not) to doing it. Doesnt get banned cool
Cause Bungie like him... if they don't a vid of trolling a friend with a through the wall nade glitch is enough for a perma ban... or a mod software for a different game.
A warning should always be the 1st approach imo but warning him and not revisiting other bans is a bad look.
Didn’t somebody get banned for having cheats for another game and installed wasn’t using it on Destiny?
Yeah
Yup, a speedrunner who was just having fun.
@@CJWII I think it was a guy who had a money infinite program running for a offline game. I dont remember if he was a speed runner but basically he just had the program open while playing d2 and the game said no no you bad boi, and I think they perma banned him. Forgot his name tho
@@aidan1909ytcruz, he was on elysium 4x worlds first and they double downed on his appeal aswell
It was a mod for the Sims 4
Leopard raised a gang of money for charity for Bungie.
They look bad if they don’t just warn him.
If they had banned him, that’s a different kind of pressure for them.
It's still unfair
They should just warn everyone 😂 like y'all kill me let's start crying bout a guy cheating solo in pve no one actually gives ASF about cheaters in pvp. make it make sense! Have better standards
No, he should be banned.
@@xXunknownXx0000cry about it
Fair is fair….
Rules for the and not or me. It needs to be the same for all. Leopard is a nice guy but doing this emboldens actual cheaters. This is the reason Destiny carries so many cheaters.
Breaking TOS is breaking TOS ban should be issued. Otherwise they are playing favorites.
They’re not going to ban a huge advertiser use your brain
@@avatarroku3173 then terms of services are useless. Thing about legal is you don’t get to pick and choose when you enforce rules because it opens you up to discrimination, etc..
Use your brain
@@avatarroku3173with all the backlash they will have to! He openly cheated and showed it to the world and knew he was gaining an advantage. If bungie don't ban him their reputation will be even more ruined!
People have been banned for less without warning. But we all see now publicly Bungie will choose to not to ban.
Def should get banned if other people get banned for it no one should be an exception in TOS
I think leopards video acts as demonstration to show bungie how awful latency is in their game
@@WTFwhitePPL The latency in D2 isnt the problem... he uses a third party app to manipulate the connection to the bungie servers to get as much Lag/Latency as possible to do those things. His Video is no demonstration... his Video is openly showing him cheating to gain an unfair advantage that isnt possible without using tools to manipulate what is happening ingame... this is litteraly the definition of Cheating, he is basically Lagswitching and this should be punished with a ban. no excuses or a warning.
If it was anyone of us normal losers, we would have been banned 13 different ways but one of their beloved marketers does it blatantly in the open and brags about doing so and he gets a simple warning. He will be back at future bungie events, he will be allowed behind closed doors, he will retain his revenue, he will retain his priveleges. Nothing will happen. He needs to be perma banned, no ifs ands or buts.
I mean if it was anyone else that doesnt have 'Content Creator' Status they would be banned instantly. no questions about it, yet in this case no ban, there is clear favortism here.
I love the guy - but if the average player would have received a suspension (if not ban), Leopard should also receive at least the account suspension as first offense & if he's foolish enough to do it again get banned w/ no further warning.
if you have bad wifi you can break 3 easy. doing it with a vpn is bannable but living in the middle of nowhere isn't.
why is the game different depending on your connection?
I got banned during witch queen for doing latency to do a GM, yet this guy gets a pass lol.
The streamer should be straight up ban. Any normal user caught would be.
I wish that Bungie would issue a warning for minor infractions first before heading straight to a ban
the spaghetti code. Man... Bungie.
this isn't a coding issue?
@@fluidwolf It is a coding issue. Bungie just suck at being efficient coders. They’re literally infamous for their spaghetti code and awful netcode.
@@skytron22 net limiting isnt a bungie problem, every online multiplayer game can be affected by net limiting...
So Bungie aren't enforcing their own TOS if it's a solo endeavour and doesn't affect others gameplay ?
OK, noted. Standby Bungie.
Better send this to skeletor 😂
1 rule for one, 1 rule for others.
Cant belive bungie actually posted..... because he didnt get very good rewards he will just get a telling off.
What a joke. Needs to be banned. I hope bungie is now looking at his past play time.
Cheaters literally now posting videos and getting away with it
My friend literally got banned from trials cause his Internet was ass
Bungo just cares about youtube n bublicity n not your friend brother just the sad truth 😔
Yea he got reported for skipping around all the map
@joeyno137 well that could be lagswitch which is very different my friend
@@carseatgaming deserved
@@nick50prinCe no. lag switch is different. They can't be hit.
While laggy players can shot at.
Remember when everyone used to pulled the Ethernet cable on Crota?
One law for yee and one law for thee.
This is just show that they focus more on content creators than the community.
It is well known among net limiters that it is against the rules, and that Bungie would almost never ban someone for it. Leopard made a dumb decision posting this.
I don’t respect cheaters, especially the ones who gloat about it. They should all get the same punishment and not favoritism. This is a slap in the face for everyone else who have gotten banned for doing less.
I find it interesting you manage to lump Leopard here in with the literal aim botters and fly hackers in PvP. I think you misinterpreted Leopards video on the latency
@@WTFwhitePPL nah I have not. I just feel that people try to justify stuff if even deep down they know it could be wrong. But then again it’s just my view.
@@WTFwhitePPL who gives a F. He broke rules that's enough. If it's good for 1 it's good gor all. I dont give a F who this guy is if he violates the rules he should be banned like everyone else.
Similar thing happened back when vog came out in destiny 2 and they made it aware that anything like that would happen though…. The only difference is that you had tot go offline and then turn it back on quickly to reconnect to the router.
Warning maybe depends on if he used it in trials
A warning? No. Terms of Service are in place for a reason. Breaking them means some sort of punishment. If he gets banned, make it for a year, not permanent. You stream yourself breaking the rules, you get deserve whatever Bungie decides.
Nah, man, don't think this warrants a ban, not even close. For me the context in which he did it carries more weight than the act, plus the fact that he didn't deny it. That was just Leopard being Leopard, that's all, nothing more.
On top of that, go to someone like GernaderJake to enlighten you on how Bungie is letting actual cheaters run rampant . . . it would be straight up stupid to go after Leopard whilst letting them thrive. That being said, I am absolutely, categorically, unconditionally, completely, unequivocally, 100% sure someone is going through Leopards' data-history at this very @*#$~%^& moment.
It's bungies fault that players who have good connection to the servers are at an inherent disadvantage.
I genuinely thought this was going to be the macro farm ban.
This is worse.
Right is right and wrong is wrong. He could’ve been doing this without posting it. I don’t care about who has slow Internet from fast Internet.
Leopard: I’m network manipulating
Bungie: Wait are you network manipulating? Breaking our TOS? That we claim we have 0 tolerance on?
Leopard: Lmao yeah
Bungie: Understandable have a nice day, don’t do it again :)
joking or not, these content creators are literally teaching people how to cheat, then get mad when they get banned. " i was just showing what cheats do guys" ... they act like were all so stupid we need them to show us what it looks like to get no scoped from across the map, or we need to finally meet that one guy in every witness run that says they can do all 6 plates at once. we dont...
Bungie's been an awful company ever since they ousted the old-guard.
Dude isn't a wholesome guy if he's cheating the system. He needs a ban end of. Anyone supporting him should be investigated too. Streamers get away with far too much
The crazy thing is he knows what he was doing and if it was just an average player they would have got bannned !!! L
I am wondering if he just got a warning because he was just playing by himself so it didn’t ruin other player’s experiences. However, calling it a marketing genius if it was a NordVPN sponsor is where I disagree with. That network manipulation can achieve one thing in this situation and it goes against the ToS of that game 😅
I am still new to D2 so I don’t know anything, but him admitting he knew it was manipulation is not a good look. They will most likely have to do an investigation on him to see if he is an active cheater as protocol (you never know), and then decide then. But the fact he was by himself might have saved him.
Is Bungie saying it breaks ToS to USE a VPN, or it breaks ToS to intentionally manipulate your speed to play the game?
The latter
I don’t know how any of that works I use nord vpn and don’t want to get banned
bungie can fix this by not putting content creators on such a loose leash. too bad it's only content creators that are known for uploading their own bullshit to youtube, and even stream it. not surprising, really. ban deserved.
I believe that content creators shouldn't be the exception when it comes to these kinds of situations but the example. It doesn't matter the intention behind the video the terms of service was broken, broken publicy, and basically showing how to do it. And all leopard gets is a slap on the wirst.
He should face some consequence and this should be the last warning and just ban all the people using this to manipulate their network.
What this actually tells me is bungie has no way to tell without being shown evidence. Thats more terrifying.
I’ve enjoyed watching leopard in the past, but this was really stupid of him. Makes me think the other solo clears probably used network manipulation as well.
So am I getting banned as well? I played destiny for 10 years with 200pings everyday?
Realy 200 ping?
@@justclyde3160 that's right whenever I play PvP most of time I trade with the enemy and even in PvE sometimes my golden gun doesn't register I have this problem only in destiny in other games I have 80-140ping
@@daniyalgholami8881 not god brother...u need better internet maximal 50 ping
And in pvp....i don't play if I don't have at least 30 ping
@@justclyde3160lmfao! My ping is around 80-90 in general. That number is fine.
Ban him, I got banned for nothing and so should he
This stuff is only doable on PC but hey just keep nerfing titans right?
Can definitely connect to a VPN on console. not a pc only thing
@@TestingHardwareHD yea just completely ignore the fact the game is optimized for PC which has 5 to 6 times the frame rate including DAMAGE TIED TO HOW MANY FRAMES...and not console as everyone does in this community...IF ITS A PROBLEM ON PC AND NOT CONSOLE TOO BAD ITS GETTING DECIMATED ANYWAYS LMAO.
@@Phillip_Graves yeah enemy damage is tied to framerate as in you take more damage on PC not that the player does more damage.
@@TestingHardwareHD pretty sure they fixed that
@@TestingHardwareHD yea...no you aren't fooling me DOOM ETERNAL had the same thing more damage output and intake due to frames. Except that game was better than D2 especially TFS which was mid AF.
How is running a VPN against ToS? Do the ToS specifically prohibit VPN usage? He could simply change his MTU or any number of other things to modify his latency. If he travels to the same country where his VPN server is at to play D2, is that then considered network manipulation? If it's not a lag switch, or something equally nefarious, then who cares?
VPN is not the issue. He was using it to network manipulate which is against the TOS. He was literally cheating by bungie’s standards and didn’t get ban.
What’s wild is their anti cheat didn’t catch it but they had to wait until he was dumb enough up upload evidence.
This is why the game has gone to shit
Cheaters are literary everywhere in the game and they go forever until banned
This is no ad and very well possible coud've been abusing network manipulation for a while now. Either or, if I posted this vid I'm curious I'd get the same warning...most likely
I believe there is a difference between doing something with intent to gain from it, and doing something and exposing it. Had he done this and completed the encounter, or done this while in a group, likely he would have been banned. But in this instance, I think that is why Bungie just came out and made their statement. It also wasn't a targeted statement, Bungie simply made a statement that this type of thing breaks the ToS.
thats irrelevant, he broke ToS........ lets take away the VPN and claim he used cheats "In a solo run. no group encounter" would that argument still apply? no it wouldnt because he still broke ToS and because he openly posted a video, it now means this exploit is known by others therefor some WILL attempt this in legit runs to make the encounter easier/quicker.
Its the same reason many advocate for NOT posting exploits because it makes the issue substantially bigger, case in point the crafting glitch way back, had the original poster NOT posted this and made it known (but in fact informed bungie) that could have been a disaster avoided. publicity is a big factor you need to be aware of
@@123TheCloop OK, but let's look at the Pony abuse that happened not too long ago. That was something that was known about, but it was ignored until it became a BIG problem. Only when it was exposed and being abused did Bungie do anything about it.
If they just give him just a slap on the wrist than shouldn’t Ekuegan get a second chance as well
And also Cruz.
Ekuegan broke NDA, not ToS. Huge difference. What ekuegan did was illegal and he's lucky all he got was a ban.
wait EK got banned???
apples to oranges - Ekugean broke a Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA), which can be basically pinned under "industrial espionage". Lepard created a network latency in a one-man run, not trying to exploit to gain repeated advantage or manipulate drop rates, not using it for carries or doiung anything else in that manner.
to put in perspective, Ekuegan might've as well posted top secret vehicle files on War Thunder forums, while Lepard was jaywalking.
@@clxxdxdHe was the one behind leaks along with an employee of the company, they did a deep investigation
He should be banned period.
Bans should only come down if the behavior affects other people, warnings if it helps you get a title or unlocks something. In this case, the tweet from Bungie was the correct response.
There’s a lot of innocent people then.
@@zerotodona1495 Circumstances and intent are important, someone using cheats in trials to go flawless is very different than someone playing by themself in pve with nothing on the line, as well as not trying to present his accomplishment as something more than what it was. It may be against TOS, but there’s something fundamentally honest going on and that should be a factor (for everyone). Just my opinion, though.
So basically Bungie says here that if you use a VPN to play, it constitutes network manipulation? Or is it that he admitted to testing it which makes it fall under that?
Bungie is saying it’s okay for streamers to cheat but no one else.
Let the Man be. He posted it for the world to see. Not hiding anything. Warnings are always good. Good for Bungie. Also brings to light what this software and let EVERYONE know that thos is not excepted within TOS with Bungie.
Non content creators get instantly banished...
While a Streamer openly cheating... gets a small slap on the hand.
MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.
Just because u are goofy and or a wholesome Person doesnt free u from the TOS of Destiny 2 and let u openly break them to your liking.
He needs to be banned for Cheating... no tolerance, everyone should be held equal to the TOS. No favoritism cuz u are a Streamer.
Big L for Bungo & Lep. Love em' both but honestly can't see the marketing side of what you were saying, but I am also not canceling it out. Good vid Luck 👍🏼
If I was a sponsor and that's how the person did the ad I would be pissed.
You can do this without needing a vpn
Should have banned him for a week or something to avoid this
Low fps+big latency = win in D2
I have questions. Can you use a VPN to avoid being DDOS? Or will it be considered network manipulation?
Using VPN itself isn't against the TOS
But if anyone using it just like in the video then it is
I have nit seen his stuff but to be fair I do feel like some sort of punishment should happen, it feels upright disrespectful to those who are not content creators who are not sponsored or known by Bungie and the normal players.
To be fair, Leopard did this is a Solo Instance. However on that same note, him just showing and kinda bragging how this is Network Manipulation is a bit tone deaf especially when Bungie can pull the ban hammer on him hard and justifiably so.
He is lucky he wasn't banned. If its up to me. He will be banned effective immediately. I don't care what his explanation is.
so he broke the rules and didnt get banned...streamer privelages?
They've had increased drop rates on loot for years. This is just one of many privileges they get.
@@judgementkazzy7172 lol bro what?
@@judgementkazzy7172that’s the most stupid take I’ve ever heard
He has good intentions he at least deserves a warning before getting banned
@@kodycooksey4483 you ever wondered why most big streamers/content creators just so happen to have few connection problems during day 1 raids or day 1 DLC launches OR exotic drops....... if you think it doesnt exist then just take a step back and watch from outside the box and you will see why people think that way
he should get a ban. he broke ToS and admitted doing it purposefully
lol yall jumping to accusations for no reason. I dont think he was thinking maliciously about it, just something he thought he would try and it really isnt that game breaking (and i am aware of net limiting, latency, and other third parties used). The fact he was fully transparent about it in his stream and on twitter is telling enough. No he does not deserve a ban but since bungie has cornered themselves from banning others with minimal evidence it has given causation for players anger. Warnings need to be put in place not bans. Hell even "A" warning and secondarily to follow up if used further a perm ban. Tbh though other streamers or players usually get banned on day 1's which prompts me to believe they were deserving bc their anticheat is fully on during those events. Generally bans are registered by mass reports which is telling as well. Make of that what u will
Bungie definitely favoring a content creator here. Would hate to see him banned, but gotta call it how it is
I'm sure a bunch of people complaining he didn't banned also did network manipulation in some form or another during the Craftening to make it easier to get crazy craft combinations...
No I didn't stfu.bungie aloud that to continue to happen.This guy cheated broke tos end of story. He gets a pass why?
I was still waiting for the macro tos violation.
I actually reviewed the macro code and there’s no real way they can track it unless they catch it in the act.
So all the people who hid it and used it will get away but fuck us plebs I guess
Better be a ban involved if not better have my account unbanned for the same thing…
He even admits it in the screen shot off twitter wtf
Know damn well if I did this, I am banned instantly. The nerve to post yourself openly cheating, double down on it and get a warning instead is disgusting.
I think it's dope that Bungie was able to recognize he had no malicious intent and instead used his post as a beacon to set precedence going forward for everyone else. People are too quick to go on a witch hunt.
I think it’s dope that your mother didn’t abort you to prove that stupidity, although genetically frowned upon, can still exist in society. Albeit, dysfunctionally.
Are you high? People have been bam for bad internet but he gets a pass for straight up cheating?
@@zerotodona1495 :) have a good day
So switching on a vpn is network manipulation? People acting like he committed sedition.
Exactly, all these people asking for a crucification over a few blips of latency for one mechanic while he did everything else legit.
.....yes it is network manipulation. He used the VPN to make his network seem like it's in a completely different area which induced a large amount of lag that made him able to break more than one glyph.
yeah it sounds like a Bungie problem. Spaghetti network.
@@archangelgabriel8493 You are aware it doesn't matter if he did everything else legit, right? The one part he didn't is still against TOS to do that and would be something the grand majority would have been auto banned over. So it's understandable for people to be upset about it not being the case with him.
Yes it is network manipulation. Hes altering the game to get an advantage. Hes not searching for fetish porn on moms laptop.
Do bungie ban for using a VPN?
Beyond the fact that he's raised money for the Bungie Foundation with charity streams, the reason he was given a warning and not an outright ban was firstly, because he was playing solo and there were no victims of his "crime," meaning nobody was impacted whether positively or negatively by his actions, and secondly because he made it clear he had no intention of continuing to break ToS.
None of that matters but ok
He should be ban
@@BrainWasherAttendent I wasn't defending him.
We should ban Bungie for manipulating our networks, by keeping us from winning matches w/ their terrible servers 😂
They can fix this by having a minimum service requirement.
Leopard is doing Bungie a favor, starting a conversation about something that they can then address publicly. I'd venture to guess that fewer people are likely to try it thanks to this interaction. Same with his endorsement of the exotic farm macro. Things like that will certainly light a fire under Bungie's ass in terms of A) Addressing community grievances with the grind for exotic class items and B) Removing the ability to farm the items via a macro. It's good for everyone. Only larger content creators have this kind of influence. If Bungie punished every content creator like Leopard, it would be anarchy, and there would be even more friction between Bungie and its playerbase.
Or this guy just showed thousands of people how to do it. Now they can all do it because if he's not getting banned then neither should any of them.
When someone speaks way to high of someone it means he don’t mean it . He just saying so he don’t get hate by it.. 😂😂😂😂
wait im confused, its against TOS to use something like nord? I've been using nord for months now, could i run into trouble?
If you intentionally use it to manipulate the game mechanics. If you use it solely for security/privacy it’s not tos
@@ShamanicEnzan intention is difficult to prove though, and if whatever ban system flags you and bans... I've only heard stories of people taking months or a year to get their account unbanned. also another reason I'm avoiding macros all together, not just for the exotic class item farm but everything since I read someone got a permaban shortly after they macro converting legendary shards to phantasmal fragments.
I get it's all hearsay from these stories but I don't know how else to find an official statement or ToS that clearly defines a boundary with extensive examples. I tried using the TWAB archive finder but I guess I suck cause I was told I could find a twab addressing this some years back but I couldn't find it. Last I checked the ToS, it's just filled with ambiguity that my poor English sucks at comprehending
Its not like he was exploiting this inside of pvp and ruining everyone's experience. Hes doing this alone, solo in a raid encounter. A warning a fair.
He broke TOS. He should be ban. They ban people for less.
then go ahead and prove it by doing the same as he did and post it on the forum and on X under Bungie
Bungie wont bann you since you doing it on solo
Content creator showcases a product that allows you to manipulate your connection latency. Cue flood of complaints to bungie that PvP is full of lag and warping players.......
The payday from Nord needs to be substantial if he ends up excluded from Destiny and imo, not a smart move.
Wait so the first solo witness was using VPN ? To break the glyphs ?
Different person but he probably was.
Just another cheaters showing off.. that's all!!
So is using a macro , for chest farming a ban-able offense?
Technically yes,though they've never done anything about it. Conversely it's always been lame.
seems like that weapon he was using is too powerful so they need to Nerf or weaken that weapon instead of weakening weapons like the straight guy just because other people don't like it. It seems like Destiny 2 is cracking down on anything that is out of the way and that would literally be considered wrongfully gaining an advantage within the game in the so-called content creators should be no exception. A lot of people try to do things as a joke something that's not a joke because it's not funny but they try to disguise it as a joking situation thinking it wouldn't be as bad on them but things don't work like that. It don't matter if it's a content creator or any other player everything is supposed to be equal. If a regular player or a content creator decides to do something that gives them a wrongful Advantage within the game it should be dealt with I don't care if it's the president of the United States if he wants to do something to hack on the game or something that's against terms of service or gives himself a wrongful Advantage within the game it should be dealt with. Content creators need to realize they're no different than any other player they're definitely not better than any other player everything applies to everyone equally.
This is total BULLSHIT STREAMER FAVORTISM
It's unfortunate but Bungie is in the right place because it shows people how to break the game because there are obscure companies that charge players to help them pass this raid or that dungeon in exchange for real money...
typical bungie double standards picking and choosing who they want to punish
Manipulate the Game = get kicked. Its not even worth discuss, its not rocket science ! just dont do it. not even "for fun" .
Well in this case, he manipulated the network and showed it on video. Maybe it’s more of an issue that he showcased it.
using vpn is now term of service hahahahaha common bungie just do a dedicated server and end this nonsense
He’s using the vpn to make his game lag so he can cheat mechanics. It’s cheating.
They never said VPNs are against terms of service, just network manipulation is, if you can successfully use a vpn without causing any issues there, it should be fine?
@@O-bearer-mine I have to turn off my vpn when I play. Battle eye flags it.
@@O-bearer-mine the original tweet is saying thanks nordVPN and after that they say against ToS. Soo he's using a vpn to get lag
@@O-bearer-mine VNPs per say are not against ToS but the issue is depending what server you are connected to, they can sometimes crap out in latency for whatever reason and if bungie mistake "that latency blip" as you exploiting something then they could ban you for it, especially when a lot of ppl use VPNs for legit reasons. him doing this has actually put some players at risk for this.
Hold on this guy gets a warning for stuff. And the guy that got world's 1st 4 times got straight up banned and can never play again. Bungie needs to do things correctly.
Should get a ban. Streamers shouldn't get special treatment cause anyone else just gets permanent banned.
Ban him. I don't want any of this double standard political bullsit in the game. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. . . I expect every individual to be allowed to do the same and avoid a ban.