The Silent Underdogs of Top Tier - War Thunder
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- Japan at top tier can set the pace for the entire match, with five vehicles sending out some of the hardest hitting sabots at a blisteringly fast pace, even I fear the Japanese mains at top tier!
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00:00 - Whats up with Japan?
05:54 - A true mixed experince
10:51 - Ultimate Flank'N Spank!
15:25 - Long Range BOOPS!
20:44 - Type 90?!
24:08 - The Prototypes
27:03 - All SPAA!
29:36 - Wow this is a long video..
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As a Japan main, I'm rlly happy the Type 10s are getting some love ❤
4 sec reload do be crazy
Same on both Type 90s.
Spamming JM33 is truly fun and let you to potato some shots or even trick people to expose themself.
It helped me a lot, the only thing i regret is the absence of the ESS (i know, JSDF do not have such equipment for their tanks), with such thing you can pull nasty tricks (as i do with my Merkavas and something with the Russian, mostly the T-80s)
As a not Japanese main I’m glad the type 10 has no armor
is japan worth grinding? i'm planning to do it
Every time I go to War Thunder Live and see the skins there I regret not maining them
They've also directly/indirectly nerfed the Type 16 fps/prototype like 5 times since August 2023
@@Kraftfahrzeugverkehr like 2 changes to the traction/speed of wheeled vehicles that negatively impacted the type 16's performance, M735 nerf which has made the shell extremely bad (it was already pretty mid), and 2 br increases (originally it was 8.7/9.0 before August)
@@Kraftfahrzeugverkehr yeah but that's the thing it's 9.3 with 290mm of pen where that becomes an issue is 9.7-10.3 where mbt's like the 2a4 completely outclass you in every single field but thermals which is niche
@@Kraftfahrzeugverkehr yeah ik in general 8.3-9.7 tends to be some of the most over looked and compressed BR's like another personal fav of mine that suffers a lot especially in uptiers is the strv 103c
3:09 Mavericks tease you with 50kg TNT warhead, and then they decide to behave like a regular HEAT doing almost no damage, especially when fired from up above into the roof
in order for the mav to damage the tank it has to be locked to it, hes not locking it to the target, or the game is bugging
Apparently there's a type 90 premium coming next patch so hopefully more people can grind Japan as I want to as well as Japan lacks any tier 7 premium and has for quite some time.
Huh? Where from do you know this? And even if this is the case, it just will be another shit-bait situation because 95% of the players don’t have any lineup to support the premium tank
You shouldn't trust leak lists from Reddit if that's where you saw that, doubt Japan will get a premium Type 90 or maybe even anything for the matter.
@@theDarkside798 I for one wont mind another 11.0 for my lineup esp now tan sam is 11.0 ...
@@theDarkside798 gonna guess it's another "credible" leak list...
@@theDarkside798 no where near as many people play Japan compared to USSR or USA, it won’t really have much affect, like the challenger OES, don’t really see too many around
i just hope that the type 10s gets their proper transmission at some point.
currently ingame its about as mobile as the type 90. but in reality it should accelerate way faste
for those that are wondering what the difference is. type 10 uses a CVT transmission that can change through a continuous range of gear ratios. compared to an automatic transmissions that provide a limited number of gear ratios in fixed steps.
Nah unless some more OP tanks come into play the Type 10 is perfectly fine
14:37 Arizona Green Tea camo
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Yea Japan high tier is hella fun. The type 81 c spanks. Since I’m terrible at everything else, I bring that out and usually get compliments and thank you’s for minimal effort
since it's considered rather boring gameplay, sitting silently to clear the skies of helis and jets for your team is a noble effort
The Japanese main in me screamed: "Hit that like button!" and I obeyed! I really enjoyed the video, thank you, sir!
4:43 nope, they nerf the thermal of type 93 so it's the same as the type 81. so unless you play as scout/forward AA there's is no point using type 93 anymore
Also got its mobility nerfed by a weight increase
The whole reason its nerfed is because the type 81 has similar cameras for it optical tracking and they didnt want to buff the 81 so they nerfed the 93. Truly gaijin gigabrain moment
Thank you so much for making the "State of Japanese Top Tier" video! They are my top 2 favourite nation in war thunder, just behind Sweden :D
And again, awesome video and keep up the good work Justin!
I have a wishlist of Japanese vehicles, starting with Type 10 APS, STC-1/2 (135mm not mounted, but supposed to be?)
Type 11 SAM, Chu MPM, STB-6, B78 IFV, Ka-To TD, O-I, Chi Nu Kai, M24 SS-11, Type 74 SPH, Type 74 G+, Chi-Se, Komatsu B78-105, Ta-Ha, SY-60, and a few others. For planes, I think giving the F-1/T-2 Chaff pods, and then gaijin could do its magic and make them chaff/flare pods, then giving them their guided stuff (ASMs).
Then the Ki-201, Yokosuka Tenga, G10N, Fuji T-1, F-2A and B, F-15J Kai, Ki-91, S1A Denko, Ki-98, J8M, Kawasaki P-1, P-3J, XF-2A, and a few others that I have forgot. Oh and Fs-T-2 Kai, and 9Ls for the F-1
For helis I have heard they use a MH-60 with hellfires, and apparently I’ve also heard of cancelled plans to mount the OH-1 Ninja with ground attack ordnance.
Where in there did you say "A6M8"
Mh-60s arent used with hellfires, most blackhawks are utility and SAR
@Danish-po3jn they have the ability to produce mh60s from what i read on the forums but havent done so
@@Danish-po3jn yeah I recently found a suggestion passed to devs on wt forum, yes it can carry hellfire s
@@Danish-po3jn nope the MH60K which is used by the Japanese has hellfires
Type 10s/90s are so great, especially the Type 90s and the TKX (P), 11.0 is such a good br for US and Japan.
And with the russia 10.0 line up spam latelly, lots of downtier when i play 11.0, and i love bullying obj 292 with barrel shot wirst thing since they only have a 4.0sec reload
Japan could get the STC-1, which is basically a Type-90 prototype. But still, I kinda wanna see the Korea subtree. If it's beneficial for the gameplay, Gaijin should do it. Gameplay>Realism
the one with the prototype 13omm smoothbore or is it a different one?
@@armandorodrigues144 There was a 135mm, but that was never fitted to the tank itself. So it's the one with the 120mm
@@i8yourDog I see, I had always seen forum users write about the 130mm so I thought that was the caliber, now I know
Love that youre giving japan some light! just finished the entier ground tree this last week
YESS JAPAN REVIEW I been waiting for it thanks Justin :D
They can introduce the Tan Sam II with the type 11 missile. It's on the same type 73 truck as the type 81 but can also be placed on the Toyota land cruiser like the type 93. The missile just like the type 81 has ir homing for terminal guidance and can be switched to semi active radar like the type 81 but type 11 has better capabilities and better eccm. It was intruded in 2014 so still pretty new but not that new. F2A and B models would be a dream. And although virtually nothing is known about type 10s APS it does have one hopefully more info on how it looks comes out and that can be added the type 96 mpm its an anti tank missile carrier in the toyota land cruiser with the ability to fire from behind cover.
If 2S38 can be added, so can APS variant.
@@notafrog2040
We just have to get some more information, which is the only reason why they haven’t added it.
Just completed japan ground tree on saturday, japan and sweden are by far my favorites. Good to see there getting love
Was the grind hard people are talking of no armour i started with ussr but that reload on some tanks is pain and i want something more fun so i like japan as a cuntry and i like there tanks are they realy that bad
@@benjaminbeslagic3966 its a little rough at first but once you get past the type 74 series the rest steam rolls, chi ri series is top tier gang tho, aa sucks planes are great
@@benjaminbeslagic3966 the type 93 is God tier
Hyped to see this a week after getting to 11.7 Japan. The 11.0 and 11.7 lineups are so much fun with the suspension and 4s reloads. I actually didn't realize how little armor the Type 90s have or how wonky the 10/TKX armor is until seeing a Reddit post the other day. I survive just about as much as in the Swedish Leo 10.3 Leos sometimes. My one gripe is no SACLOS SPAA... the amount of time I spend staring at helicopters praying the stupid IR seeker finds it.... Ive also 100% had that issue with it not firing multiple times.
the ype 10 is not an underdog, that thing is a menace. And the AAM3's are underperforming like crazy, they have the same exact model as the 9M, but has a bit reduced drag, so slighter longer range, even though it should pull more and have better range. Not sure if it also had a better seeker, but it might have had in real life
The stats are just a copy paste from the 9M. Fin AoA are exactly the same but fin drag is reduced which is why its like this
Hey, what's up man, thanks for the video during my pause. ❤
As Japan main and an IRL type 19 enjoyer I love the video.
Just need to unlock them top tier vehicles, stuck at the type 16s.
And love Helldivers 2!
I love playing Japan, it's my favorite nations
I started playing Japan as my first ever tech tree for ground. I’ve played every air tree in the game except for Japan and Sweden. Japan ground seemed appealing to me because of the Type 93. I bought the Type 16FPS and I sucked at it but I’ve stuck to it and I’ve slowly been getting better. A few more weeks and I should be at top tier. It’s been fun.
You are making quality content all the time, I hope you reach 100k this year
Japan main here
Thx for the video, Justin ❤
Got his gun? U serious? Broke his PIPE is the only correct way to say it. xD 12:05
22:12 you see how that fuel tank and spall liner are broken in the Strv122B+
Nah it’s fine because it’s nato
@@user-jc2in3cp3g bro, Leopard 2A7V would be crippled after that
It’s just the STRV 122B+, I will pretend that I don’t know understand why it’s broken….. as Gaijin pushed players to play USSR and spend money on that nation, now it’s time for Sweden.
would love to see a full 8.3 south African 🇿🇦 line up. ZT-3A2, ZA-35, rooikat and MK1 olifant.+one random cas plane.
I like this idea, so a solid maybe
F-15s rip with a slight breeze above 18ish minutes of fuel. So be aware of that. And taking full internal fuel should be enough for an ARB, so like 20-30m might be enough for a GRB match. Love the videos! Just some tips.
Justin!!!! Hey I just wanna say I ran into you a second time😂 you were playing the Vilkas but i was playing against you as USA. But other then that I was tryna get your attention but I forgot you have chat off😅😭 so I just wanna say i love encountering you, it’s fun and awesome to have you either as a teammate or an enemy❤️ P.S. if I remember this was a couple weeks ago when I encountered you a 2nd time, but I’m also the same guy who was that T 80 U on Sweden in one of your videos about the 122A. Anyways much love man keep up the awesome content❤️💯
You got that poor lad 5 times in the type90 game 😂. Poor soul.
I have so many people I’m subscribed to and that I don’t watch but recently I’ve been watching you and I regret not watching you earlier when I first subscribed
I love the tradition of "Justin, you killed a child!" in all these videos. Its always overkill. This time it was a M42 with a Maverick 😂
I play Japan it was my first faction. To get to the top felt rough but being there now is the best feeling in the game.
i just love type 10s design so much
Now that the Type 10’s are in (even with drastically reduced armor) and the AA problem has been fixed, top tier Japan is my favorite to play. I grind for SL in my top tier Japan lineup because I have unboxed so many talismans for them that it’s practically a goldmine. With the Type 10’s hydropneumatic suspension, going hull down in weird spots gets me a TON of kills.
Love the Japanese top tier. Tkx is fun
I like the author's camo livery on the F16AJ
Nice video🎉
i love the type 10 with all my heart, favorite top tier tank period
I think the best experience i got from Japan were at (old) 9.0 with the Type 16 and Type 74, (old) 8.3 with Type 89 and Type 87 SPAAG, 11.3/11.7 with the Type 10s, and (current) 11.0.
The last one, 11.0, was totally a blast with the Type 90s. I thought the grind would be miserable with the HEAT, instead in a bunch of game and thanks to both autoloader and suspensions, i reach the JM33 and start to have a lot of fun, even grab two nukes with both tanks.
All their RPs went into the Type 81 (insane AA) and the TKX prototype, which i will buy with the sales and...if all of them are still at that BR, i'm gonna to put talismans on each one.
I still think Japan deserve to be played for such moments, like Italy and even France, at some BRs there is so much potential for the players!
Utilization of hydro-pneumatic suspension is recommended. Attitude control allows for -12 degree hull down.
This!
Truly help also playing in hull down with Type 90s, i'm using them also on my AMX-10RC, once you embrace the suspension gang you can't let them behind🤣
I pretty much just got the Type 10 and TKX, I mostly take only 16 rounds, how much do you notice with getting ammoracked if you take 18 or 20 rounds?
Also Justin, the F-2 (Viper Zero) never carried GBU's nor Mav's. It only has JDAM's which can only be dropped against static targets, there is a single F-2 which got modified to carry the Sniper Targetting pod so it can drop LJDAM's (Laser guided JDAM) and those however can be used against moving targets.
So we have to hope that we get South Korea as a subtree which do actually have Mavericks on their (K)F-16's
Kind sir, pls share your Sound setting. Because damn i can hear where the enemy clearly just from your vid and Im amaze.
Tried playing top tier. The pain of being useless and enemy charging you without anywhere to run when breach gets taken out I will never recover from
I only started the japanese tree that I'm grinding with my friend only. At first, it was one of the countries that I was least attracted to because I was never crazy about their WWII vehicles and didn't know much about their postwar vehicles. But having played them up to the 3.3/3.7 line up, I have to say that they're a whole lot of fun. Your armor isn't that great, but the mobility is okay and the firepower works. Some of their tanks have really amazing gun depression (-10 degrees!) which is so good to have for me as a soviet main!
It's not an easy country, but it's a lot of fun for a somewhat experienced player. I would advise people to try Japan as their second or third country. They kind of need some finesse and map knowledge to make them work, but once you do, they are rewarding to play. With their WWII vehicles, outside the numerous derp guns that they get, you need to know where to shoot since they have weak penetration values though. It's also a pretty short tech tree, so you aren't stuck in it for a long time.
As an additional advantage, the average japanese player tends to be of a higher skill level than your average WT player, so you aren't stuck with braindead players that ruin your game experience like some certain countries like Germa... *cough* and USA *cough*! :D
Conclusion, they're really worth trying.
It would make sense if the type 90 maybe had spall liners but the type 10/ tkx shouldn't because Japan was really thinking of it's weight keeping it under 50 tons. That's due to the roads and bridges in Japan wouldn't be able to support it.
I mean i recently got into British 11.3 and I'm really enjoying it
Every time I play other top tiers, I want to go back to Japanese one! Its so fun running around with 4s reload
love your videos. can you do a video of the ztz96 p Chinese 10.0 tank
Japan TT mbts are dangerous. I like them and maybe some day will research that tree
As a Japan main who is grinding naval Japan, very happy
justin can you please do like full tech tree review for some nations
The pain experienced during the grind payed off as soon i reached top tier japan
I have to say 10 vehciles in a lineup is insane, 6 should have been the max 2 tanks, 1 ifv, 1, sam, 1 helicopter, 1 jet
17:37 epic laugh and moment
the reload time on the type 90 and type 10s can make you basically impossible to push if you're smart.
i want you to do a video on the state of italy top tier (its not great but as a italy main it would be fun to see)
31:01 I think Gaijin should add the Southeast Asian tree with countries such as Singapore, Indonesia, and Vietnam inside.
The only thing japan is missing are guided bombs and there are pictures of an F-4EJ Kai with these bombs (not to be confused with that JDAM picture since those were a mockup for testing) but even theres is proof of them being loaded in T-2s and F-1s
I prefer the type 90 over the type 10. Type 90 is simply more mobile and doesn't lose a lot of speed when slightly turning. Sure there's a huge difference between the rounds but that doesn't matter if you're still aiming on weak spots on certain mbts.
As a Japan main, the dozer on the TKX does really help. Since they made it so that the Type 10s have no frontal armor, that, dozer really does help a lot. Also, the fact they upped the BR of the Type 89 is so wrong, especially since they’ve nerfed it more than 10 times. I’m currently grinding France rn though, since Gaijin still refuses to give Japan guided munitions. The T-2 and F-2 both could carry IR guided bombs. Pretty sure the F-15J can carry JDAMs too. I have 2 go to lineups in Japan right now, that being 7.3 and 11.0, as they’re both powerful lineups.
One more thing, I don’t understand why they don’t give the AH-64DJP a warning system. Sure, it didn’t have it in real life, but did you know Japan is the only nation that services stingers on its Apaches? That means, literally no other Apache in game should get stingers (except maybe America), yet they do. So I can only hope they give the DJP a warning system one day.
How u are pinking with the yellow symbol on the map?? From where in the settings ??
Justin!! the AAM-3 is its own Japanese design, it's not an Aim-9M! (also gets 40G overload over the Aim-9M's 30G overload)
Here after the release of the Type 90B premium to see the state of Japan.
Same lol
The type 93 is not a very functional vehicle but that’s not why you should use it. It’s so funny to zip around the map and hit jumps in front of people. One of the most fun vehicles in the game
I will sub to your second channel just becaus You deserve it
Love From Thailand, Justin
i still enjoy the Type90s more, 11.0 so a lot more downtiers, and less uptiers since a lot of the 11.7 bracket gets sucked into 12.3-12.7 by people bringing jets, so uptiers are a lot less common, and when they do happen, they are still pretty decent with how speedy type90s are.
That and the transmission of the type 10 hasn't been fixed, since they are RECORDED to accelerate faster than the type90s, and while are a lot better than in release, they are still lacking behind the type90s, and lose more speed while turning.
Japanese modern tanks kinda suffer due to their real life doctrine, very much like their ww2 designs (which were designed to be smaller and lighter so they could be used in forest and be transported by landing craft). Their modern tanks are designed as basically ambush vehicles, they would set up in a position where they would hide themselves and use their hydropneumatic suspension to achieve greater flexibility in positions in hills which Japan has a lot of.
This means their tanks are typically designed with emphasis on not being shot at all rather than most other countries which have armor mostly as a backup. And this effects how they play in war thunder specially bc of how map dependent they can be, and gaijin doesn’t have the best map creation.
Hey justin can you do a video about the ah 64 A?
Do you think Italy will get the Leopard 2A7 HU and maby the Leopard 2A8 IT in a distant future?
Hi Justin can i ask ypy maybr play the South African tanks again please, i mean from the rooikat mk1 not below that pleaas pleaae they dont get coverd enough
They won’t get any later version of the F-16, they will get the F-2 though but I don’t think Japan has ever equipped them with any Paveways
PLEASE revisit the 4 second reload Leopard!
Can you please make a Italian top tier video soon?
Please a video on Israeli Magach 6b gal which is squadron vehicle or Swedish Ikv 91
tfw you get ammo racked then survived with the Type10/90 /TKX... burnt out ammo rack... u go to cap point to refill yet the first stage rack takes years to fill up
Could you do one for china as well? Chinese top tier seems not so great
Arguably the best tank in the game!
the type 93 is called the funvee, its just meant to fuck around in and have fun, thats it,
Japan top tier ground is a lot of fun. Sad you have no CAS options tho
Please make a video about PT16 form the german MBT
9:41 The girl decal shows up on a lot of your tanks ... yet ... I've never been able to find it for my EU account.
I guess it's one of those special Japan exclusive ones?
Sadly it is part of the "DMM Banner Girl mascot decal" which can't be obtained outside Japan ...
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
😭
I made a DMM account ... but sadly that doesn't help since if I were to link it to my Warthunder account, I would not be able to use the store anymore and even lose bought items ...
This makes me wonder how JustinPlays did it.
Any advice would be welcome ;-)
i love the type 10
Which one have good mid tier to top tier? Japan or britain?
in the type 90 game you killed that leo 2 (sankara) 2 times thn in the pt16 and the flarakrad he got atleast 4/6 deaths from you
The Mitsubishi f-2 doesn't carry GBUs, japan has adopted the JDAMs but those arent represented in war thunder sadly
Don’t forget that suspension will save lives
14:10 what is the mav doing? 😂
the amount of sl is outragous
YES FINALLY WOOOOOO
im a japan main and top tier feels so much fun, but it would be nice if gaijin stop bullying everything and maybe consider giving japan some more love instead of non stop nerfing
Thailand should fill up for Japan! This will add variety to the line up with Tank and Jets. Gaijin please!
It kills me to see justin bring out max fuel AND a fuel tank when hes playing purely CAP. 😂
I may be blind but where is the link to the 2nd channel?
video description
JSDF just bought more Type 10's, so they have nothing in the pipline it seems.
Why does spaa missiles dont proxy on low altitude targets? Give me a science explanation otherwise I'm gonna use it to grill helicopter players.
What the hell is that hand holding unskilled player feature? So helis with fire and forget missiles that are bobbing in and out behind a small low hill is uncontested and untouchable?
Could you please provide the link for the Japanese female voice mod used in tank?
Every time a CC makes a video the background vehicle is having a stroke