My little brother and little sister both stole my babies names, but for whatever reason they forgot we have a grandpa and my boy got his name, they both seemed pissed about this lol
My sister did this. I knew what I wanted my baby girls name to be if I have kids, and she decides to use it for her daughters middle name. As soon as she said this, she told me I couldn't use it. But I really don't care, and if I have a girl, I will use it anyway.
My family knew I was never having kids so this was never an issue. But if I did have kids I had the names picked out but they could also be the names of animals if I choose. My sister hated both of the names
Feel sorry for the kid, not even a day old and he was used as a tool for some weird petty little game. Imagine when the kid is older and asks about his name and his parents reveal it was a ploy to one-up his aunt for some reason.
At least Sebastian Ali is a kickass name. Welcome to Earth, Sebastian Ali. Here’s hoping you grow up healthy and strong, and a far cry from your petty drama stirring parent.
If she is struggling with motherhood, it’s because she wanted to play with a baby she saw as an object and not because she wished to raise and love a unique human being. Her obsession with the stealing the baby name just shows that her priorities are not straight. (And I don’t mean to imply that all PPD/baby blues is the mother’s fault!!! This is just my inference into that one woman’s case) Edit: uuuugh I was right about her priorities being off. She really should have found someone else other than Terrance. No wonder she is miserable.
Ppd/baby blues are a hormonal issue. When someone is depressed because their priorities are screwed and they are effing their life up, that's just happening in conjunction with the birth, not because of it.
I think the one who set her to the point of no return is when Terrence accidentally knocked up his FWB. I felt that his FWB love him more. I mean, she kept the pregnancy.
@@acgearsandarms1343poor Terrence? He chose to string her along for years, between relationships when he should have walked away for good. They both should have walked away from each other years ago.
OP was boss AF here: cunning, low-key, petty, and all without damaging the child's life by picking honestly nice names for both possibilities??? Also, good on her for taking the high road - sounds like SIL has some damage she needs to work thru, and OP is wise enough not to insert herself unnecessarily into the drama. Love to see it
Yep - until the last update when she said she's going to tell Jess how she tricked her - which will make Jess resent her own child even more than she already does. That poor kid being born into all this. OP was not the AH until she said she was going to do that - that makes her a major AH along with Jess and the insane mother in law.
@@jackspring7709 She didn't say WHEN she would tell her. And the kid has a first name his father gave him, and a pretty routine middle name depending on where they are from. Op said SHE is African-American, so I assume SIL is too, and the kid's name won't stand out. When people would ask me what names I was considering I always said what I considered ridiculous names, but with a straight face. Like Cleophus Aloysius after hubby's (fictional) great uncle and great-grandfather.
@@jackspring7709 idk I think it’s a good idea because the SIL is wrapped in a lot of crazed delusion. If you told her she was obsessively jealous and needed therapy, she would brush it off. But if you tell her (and especially in front of others) it can shame her to her senses. A grasp of self-awareness and self reflection doesn’t come easily to many people. Sometimes you have to help them along. Now, I wouldn’t laugh in her face about it unless she started attacking me after I sat her down to tell her that we need to have a serious talk as to what her issue is with me and what is going on internally to cause her to desire to compete. And since she is so hyper focused on OP, if other people can hear the story then SIL can see how weird it is (via other people’s reactions) that she would go through all that trouble to theoretically “steal”. If the SIL would resent her own child, OP would not be the cause. The SIL would be the root cause because that would mean deep down she doesn’t love her child and sees the child as an object to compete with--making her a huge AH
Not a damn thing wrong with what OP did. That SIL is so joyless that she has to go on a mission to steal a baby name from OP like it's some kind of prize winning accomplishment is pathetic beyond words. When dealing with trolls, nothing makes them angrier than not giving them the reaction that they want.
Stealing someone’s baby name will never make any sense to me. Sheesh! Imagine saddling your child with a name you may or may not like, out of spite. 😮 Well done to the OP though. 😂
@brianaschmidt910 , sounds like SIL is the drama Llama, judging by her disappointment in OP's response to her baby name. If SIL ever does bring up the fake baby names, OP just needs to say, " Yeah, we thought about using those names, but then changed our minds quickly. But how did you know? I thought it was just a coincidence. " But I really feel sorry for Jess. Her husband doesn't seem to care about her much and I can see her ramping up the drama even more after the twins arrive. And poor little Jordan is in for a hard life. My guess is that Jess will dump him on Grandma as much as she can while trying to commandeer OP's baby girl at every family gathering.
Honestly it sounds like both of them are fans of drama, though OP may be a lot more chill. But willing to burn a bridge while you're still standing on it? Honey, that's bringing unnecessary drama your way. I would never reveal that to the fam because they may later see it as being on the offense. Some things are better kept between couples and that's that.
It's the classic I want what you have, which seems to be the entire base of OP and Jesse's relationship. She is unhappy, so seeing OP happy in her relationship makes her resentful and makes her want to knock OP down a peg.
IKR? Not sure why people have feelings about other people's baby names, except when they are Tragedeighs...those should be stopped if they can be. No child should bear the name Tiny Hooker.
S1: She’s upset at OP for tricking her when SHE was the one who decided to be a sly b- and snoop through their baby room for the name so she can one-up her, but OP’s the AH for tricking her? Sister….open your brain, cause that was a petty move and she deserved it. But i can kinda see how she is when it sounds like she’s always been enabled her whole life. OP and husband should’ve told her to STFU when she wouldn’t stop harassing them before.
Jess is really a sad lady. So desperate for acceptance she will stoop so low. But i like how little OP gives a fuck. A breath of fresh air from the conflict avoidant posters.
Tbh, I don't think what OP did was wrong or bad, but I don't like OP either. She never gave a chance to Jess based on first impressions. I wonder if Jess planned this as revenge for being treated like crap. I wonder what Jess's perspective could be. Still, trying so hard to steal baby names is a bit... much.
@@Greenwren Sometimes you just know off the hop you don't enjoy someone's company. That's not a moral failing on OP's part, especially when she's never attempted to make Jess's life hard. Some people don't click and that's fine. Everyone has a right to civility by default. Jess is the one being actively antagonistic towards someone who just... hasn't gone out of their way to be "omg bestie!!!". As my teachers have always told me when it comes to workplace proffessionalism "You don't have to invite everyone for spaghetti dinners on fridays(aka be best friends), but you are expected to remain polite and respectful." Jess seems to have missed that memo.
@@MusicalCreativity I'm not blaming her feeling off but she just decided nope and never tried again by her account. We don't know if she tried to make Jess's life hard, we only have OP 's side.
@@Greenwren The fact that OP states Jess and Terrance moving back to the same state has made it harder to "dodge" Jess should be a pretty clear indicator that OP hasn't been trying to make Jess's life hard(no, avoiding someone you don't mesh well with to minimize potential conflict is *not* the same as making that person's life hard). The only one of out OP and Jess that has been trying to make anyone's life hard is Jess, and not just to OP but to Terrance and pretty much everyone else around her(and only because she's miserable with herself and misery loves company).
1 of my coworkers did a nice comeback. Her cousin ( cousin hates her for no reason) got pregnant, my coworker was also pregnant Coworker had a girl. Told cousin they were planning to name her Beverly Cousin was so set on taking the name that she completely forgot she was having a boy…. Yup. Named him Beverly Her husband wanted Brian if a boy and didn’t mind Beverly if a girl. Well truth came out at birth. Cousin: if she didn’t tell me she planned to name her Beverly, I wouldn’t have a son with the same name. He’d have a boys name. It’s her fault for telling me. Literally admitted it in front of her family, his family, hospital staff. You could hear a pin drop in there because everyone was like, oh shit…
@@nannettepolcastro4799 Yeah, It was, probably still is in some places. As is Carroll, Gail, Leslie, and a few others I can think ot (I've know men with all of those names) However, these days I think most people think of it as a woman's name. It would be kind of like naming your daughter Hortense. At one time that was a relativity common name. Now it's mostly a punch line to a joke about old spinsters. It would be cruel to name a girl that.
@@andrewalexander9492yes this. I went to school with a boy named Ashley and it was brutal for him. His last name was Olsen too so that didn’t help. Cruel is the right word.
Yeah absolutely. Makes me wonder if it took that long to Terrance to commit because he didn't like that aspect of her character... makes me wonder why he didn't just stay gone when he had the chance. Yikes. It sucks to be your own worst enemy.
The only ah move is the parent naming their kid to purposely cause drama in the family. Doesn't matter the means, naming your kid for petty reasons is why some people don't deserve happiness in their lives.
The only way they would have been an ahole was if the fake name was a tragedeigh name. They picked something normal, so at least the kid won't be bullied. I feel sorry for little Sebastian, though, with a mom like that.
Right? And it looks like BIL liked the name Ali enough to keep it as a middle name. And honestly, Aria Rose is such a pretty combination, OP could have done a lot worse with the names she chose.
Even then that's pushing the a hole thing. All she dad was write names on a paper and left it in their own private room. It's the same way people who get their food stolen out laxatives in it aren't the assholes. People going out of their way to be malicious and have it backfire on them aren't the victims
Story 1: NTA, she fell into your trap because she wanted to be petty, I suspected the SIL won't even be a proper parent because she would be upset because her move backfired
Story 1: Jess is obsessed with envy about OP's life. She wants to be OP. That's sad enough. But to struggle to have a child and then be so disappointed over its gender is the truly sad thing. She may resent this innocent child for the rest of her life, instead of realizing how lucky she is to have finally gotten married and have a healthy baby! The whole name-spying scheme just revealed how desperately Jess wants OP's life, along with Jess' remark about marrying the wrong brother. What a way to waste your life!
my cousins got pregnant pretty close to each other. one of them took her sisters "top pick" baby name and her daughter was born first. EVERYONE in the family knew this was the name (spoiler: it wasn't). when sister found out the name all she said was, "katie if you wanted me to name your baby all you had to do was say so" in the end, cuz didnt actually steal anything, looked like an idiot and vindictive, and her sis came out looking like the bigger person for being gracious to her sister. in reality, she just knew how her sister would be lol
Story one: ALL THE LADIES, DO THIS. I don’t understand nor will I ever understand people who want to ruin other people’s pregnancies or steal names. But if you have someone in your life like this, CHOOSE A FAKE NAME AND WATCH THE TANTRUM WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR BABY
My mother had her heart set on a specific name for me, her first girl (and her first surviving kid after 9 miscarriages). My aunt/uncle stole the name, so I've a cousin with a name I've always known 'should' be mine. It sort of worked out for me, two other people suggested my actual name to my mother, and she thought that was too good a coincidence to let go, lol Love that mood booster story!
If you do something that will require a person to do something ridiculously rude/nosey/dickish to even learn about, much less be affected by, you are not the A-hole.
I feel sad for sil's baby. His mom seems like someone who thrives on one upping others and may try to use her son in this way. Imagine how she'll treat him if he doesn't live up to her standards.
The sister calling what OP1 did an “a-hole move” is beyond delusional even if she was only saying it lightly. Like- OP1 put the decoy names in a dresser drawer in a room of their house no one was supposed to go in. How is she the a-hole when she made it as hard as possible for jess to do this and she still did it???
Its times like this where I'm reminded of a reddit story where a petty woman nuked her marriage in part because she stole the baby name the OP of that story had been planning to use. The problem arises in that the OP was naming her kid after someone from her husband's family. So the petty lady's husband obviously became annoyed with that once he found out. Cause you know, even if she was not, it comes off as his wife obsessing over another man.
Gosh Jess really lower herself marrying that man. She should've left a long time ago and gotten some self respect. He clearly doesn't respect her and they are in a toxic relationship
@samoanjoseph1457 my thing stands from the fact that she had to force him to me marry her, yes, it makes her sad pick me girl, but it also means that he has no respect for her and truly does not love her. Because if you truly love someone and want to spend the rest of your life with them, you get married, that is one of the points of marriage. Honestly, he sounds like a completely toxic dude and yeah, she sounds toxic but that doesn't make him any less toxic
@savannahmae3679 - No, she is toxic, and he's simultaneously done with her nonsense, while being so robbed of self-esteem that he thinks he can't do better.
S1: NTA. Jess wanted to be petty and OP outsmarted her. Jess is probably mad now because her petty plan didn't work and she can't complain about it to anyone. Everyone would tell her she was an AH for trying to steal the name. The only way OP would be the AH is if she had chosen weird names that would get a child bullied. SHE DIDN'T, she chose perfectly normal names. OP is in the clear. Edit after the update: Poor Jordan Ali.
No one seems to have picked up Jess’s behaviour. She went into the nursery where she had no business to be to pry, rifled through at least one drawer and carefully replaced things so as not to leave any trace of her invasion of OP’s home. That says a lot about who she is. The outcome of the name choice is a direct result of her despicable behaviour and serves her right. She has outed herself.
Love it! My dad had four brothers and no sisters. When he and Mom had kids, they had one son and then four daughters together, which thrilled Dad's father because he was close with his sisters but Grandma always looked like she was sucking on a lemon when she looked at the four of us. As Mom told her, it's fifty fifty on what you get every time.
Story 1: 😂 NEVER tell Jess. (User angry_scream’s suggestion especially made me snort.) Update: MAN, a “mess” doesn’t come close to describe that backstory, but in the end, Jess’s actions are her own. I hope she has a “come to Jesus moment” and gets the help she needs. Also gender disappointment really makes me sad. I worry about that baby boy.
Story 1: NTA. Exactly what would you be TA for? Not putting yourself into a position to be upset? You let her find a good name for her to steal, I would have picked bad ones.
Sick of people saying it’s an AH move when it wouldn’t even happen if the other person WASNT AN AH THEMSELVES. Like if Jess wasn’t a b then this wouldn’t have even happened!!
also genius was a story i heard a while back about a sister/stepsister taking a name from an op but it was a set up by them think it had something to do with a battle gettysburg or something i think after someones grandfather or some relative lol
Especially in family dynamics where everyone is of child bearing age, and lots of new babies are coming along; no one wants their baby to have the same name (cousins and confusion arises), but going out of one's way to 'steal' an apparently preferred name is indicative of a mental health issue. I feel very sorry for hubby and infant in SIL's family.
I haven’t stolen any names as most of our kids have Japanese names, but my family joke that I’m using up all the names since I have a whooping 14 kids…
Stealing baby names is so tacky and unoriginal. There is something sacred about names- a deep and personal meeting that speaks volumes about parents and child. If you steal a name , that means you have nothing original to say.
If Jess hadn't snooped and intentionally used the name she THOUGHT you wanted, she wouldn't have gotten upset. And how pathetic a life does anyone have when they're deliberately trying to one-up someone like this? It doesn't make her superior in any way.
It's not about the name, it's about getting one over on someone. To hold something over their head that you know they wanted, but you took. It's about power, no matter how petty.
The thing is it's very rarely a fight over a name. Sure it happens sometimes when 2 family members want to name their child after a certain family member. But most of the time it's one person being a vindictive AH and stealing someone else's choosen name and the other person understandably being upset.
First Story... Just 1/4 in my mind went: Jess has some jealousy issues. By the end I'm: "Jess is seriously in need of therapy". That woman will cause more, and more damaging problems for the family and for herself if her issues are not addressed. Also: From the story it sounded like Jess's husband is not as invested in their relationship as he might be, and he could just get fed up with the drama and dump her. I do very much admire OP's creativity with her trap. Brilliant!
I remember hearing the first story before and I still have mad respect for the OP for pulling what they did. Firstly that the names they picked are actually cute and presumably go well with their shared last name, others wouldn't be so kind. Secondly that she has Jess absolutely socially hogtied with built in plausible deniability. Jess can't confront them about the names without revealing that she snooped for the names and even then OP can still claim the names on the order sheet were "Round One Picks", hence why they never made the order and why it was left "forgotten" in a drawer in the unfinished nursery.
Story 1: NTA this is hilarious XD the fact that you got a 20 makes everything better. Is not like you used overly-ridiculous fake names that would get her kid bullied, Aria Rose is actualy really pretty and Sebastian Ali, while not the best combo, is completely normal name. Jess wanted to start drama by using your baby name as a power play and was hoping you'll react in a way that would allowed her to play victim. Now that she didn't get the reaction she wanted, she is regreting using her baby's name as a power play instead of using a name she likes. After update: Ok, this is way beyond a power play, SIL sounds like a miserable and envious person. I feel bad for her son, but at least the father got to name the kid something he likes. I hope SIL gets help to deal with her emotional mess and maneges to be a good mother to Jordan Ali. And that this doesn't turn into a severe case of "gender disapointment".
@@nannettepolcastro4799 you didn’t watch the rest of the video? There was an update, where SIL’s husband didn’t like the name Sebastian and refused to use it (she’d never discussed the name with him), so they ended up naming the baby Jordan Ali.
My little sister fully tried to steal my baby name once. When she got pregnant with her first son, she was talking baby names aloud, and mentioned loving the name that she knew full well I'd set aside for my own son if I ever had one. Thankfully, she made the mistake of doing this in front of me at a holiday gathering with everyone in the room. I, loudly and without thinking, asked her to please not do that because she knew full well that I'd had that name chosen for almost a decade. She didn't, in the end -- but she did give her son my husband's first name for the boy's middle name. I went on the have a son and give him the name she tried to steal. Whenever her son misbehaves and I happen to be nearby, she calls him by his full name (Babyname BIL's-name) and glances at me with a sickly-sweet grin to see if I'm upset than she nabbed my husband's name and now we 'can't' use it ourselves. Joke's on you, bitch: I hate the idea of juniors. You didn't steal shit.
Being asked over and over by family about when you're going to have kids is also strange. It's basically old people begging their kids to do cream pies
Story 1: for me what I feel sorry is for Jess. She's in a family that doesn't love her, her husband I don't think loves her, and she's really doing what she can to be accepted. There comes a point where you have to accept that you're not in a good place, regardless of the sister-in-law's perspective. She's just bitter.
I know someone who also did this.But the husband thought out that the initials spelled out something horrible. So the name was like Alexander Shawn Shereborn. Not the real name but .The sister also pregnet stole the list of names off their fridge. Of corse the real names picked were never written down.But every girl or boy name was Three letters of fun. They still haven’t gotten it. Their girl was named again off their list Sophia Olivia Shereborn . They broke down in giggles. She claims that her sister hasn’t figured out it the initials yet. But she is thinking of getting the kids engraved Christmas ornaments . What a witch! But I’m pretty sure she was just joking. She loves those kids.
My bio mom hounded me about the name of our first born. She insisted on family names bc she wanted them to grow up to be like that family member. No joke this is how she thought it was gonna go we kept quiet on the name. She did accuse us of having a name and not telling her but we kept quiet. And yes she hates the name we picked. It's not a family name though it is a normal every day name (think Sarah or Rebecca) with a normal spelling. She just hates it's not a family name
My mom told me she didn't like my kiddo's name. I told her I didn't care, that she had two kids that she got to pick out their names, and that I don't like mine. She changed her tune and accepted the baby's name before the kiddo was born.
My uncle is Gregory the 5th a name that runs on both my grandmother and grandfathers side of the family for many generations. So he went out of his way to not give his children family names. He failed both his daughters middle names turned out to be long running family names he was simply unaware off till a member of the family did an in-depth family tree. My dad went the other way my brother is Gregory the 6th my sister is her mother's nickname and I am a hydride of my father and both my grandmothers.
I told my cousin who was visiting from south america the unique baby name i wanted to give my kid one day. Its a traditional name from our home country. A couple of years later, his wife became pregnant. And they told me that his name was the one i was gonna do!! I don't know if he remembered the conversation we had or not...but i do remember him liking the name and being like "wow thats cool you'd name your kid that!" So i clearly planted the seed. He probably didn't remember where the idea came from. But i was definitely bothered by it!
S1: I'm just glad OP didn't leave out hideous names for SIL to snoop for. The baby may have been an unwitting pawn in SIL's weird game, but at least he has a nice name.
Story 1: (NTA) If I ever had kids any; friend, family member or colleague was pregnant around the same time as me, I'd be going info-diet with baby names. In this case, you and your husband were united in testing this baby name stealing idea. Imagine being so insecure that you feel the need to copy someone else's ideas for a baby name. What happens when the kid finds out why you named them what you named them. Also, never the a**hole for proving that a narc isn't as smart as they think they are. Love the "I picked the baby name for Jess" bragging idea. Update: Oh MIL, I like her. Baby gender anxiety? Jess really wanted a girl to get a mini-her, if she had a girl, and she turned out to be a sports nut or a goth or whatever Jess wasn't the misery and pain. Post partum depression? And they changed the name, yay, it's the first step in an uphill battle.
My son Shane recently turned 60... and yes even in 1964 they stole baby names. A neighbour's newborn Brian was suddenly called Shane. It never fazed me, because who knows where they are now.
S1 op didn't tell her directly, she just had some names option in a drawer, so she shouldn't have looked and try to stole names, now she is butthurt?too Bad for her
My sisters and I ended up stealing each other's baby names. My youngest sister took my middle sister's favourite girl name and when my middle sister had her daughter she took my favourite middle name. I had no problem with it because by then I was finished with having children and only have boys, my middle sister was also okay with the name stealing since her then husband had vetoed it
I always love it when a worker just sticks it to the boss like that. As much as I hate Right To Work laws in as they grossly benefit employers over employees, I am so glad that the one right workers have is "can quit at any time without notice."
This is the most entertaining AITA? The story an comments are great! I like the one that OP should say she was going to suggest names - and is so thrilled that Jess chose one, and OPs phrase 'shut up ring'. It does not surprise me Jess has not bonded with her baby - as she just sees it as a 'thing' to get because others have one. Jess sounds like she should be in a padded cell with a doll to play with.
My little brother and little sister both stole my babies names, but for whatever reason they forgot we have a grandpa and my boy got his name, they both seemed pissed about this lol
My sister did this. I knew what I wanted my baby girls name to be if I have kids, and she decides to use it for her daughters middle name. As soon as she said this, she told me I couldn't use it. But I really don't care, and if I have a girl, I will use it anyway.
@@kat8753What's with people thinking they own baby names? If you google a name you'll find thousands of results
@kat8753 id reply with "or else what?"
My family knew I was never having kids so this was never an issue. But if I did have kids I had the names picked out but they could also be the names of animals if I choose. My sister hated both of the names
I pray that your kid gets bigger inheritance share from grandpa!!
Feel sorry for the kid, not even a day old and he was used as a tool for some weird petty little game. Imagine when the kid is older and asks about his name and his parents reveal it was a ploy to one-up his aunt for some reason.
And his mother doesn't even want him. Poor guy.. :(
At least Sebastian Ali is a kickass name. Welcome to Earth, Sebastian Ali. Here’s hoping you grow up healthy and strong, and a far cry from your petty drama stirring parent.
I don’t see the marriage surviving that long.
@@TheLastHylianTitan Except he didn't get named Sebastian Ali. If you read the update, he wound up being Jordan Ali.
@@andrewalexander9492 I heard it! And Jordan Ali rolls off the tongue better!
If she is struggling with motherhood, it’s because she wanted to play with a baby she saw as an object and not because she wished to raise and love a unique human being. Her obsession with the stealing the baby name just shows that her priorities are not straight.
(And I don’t mean to imply that all PPD/baby blues is the mother’s fault!!! This is just my inference into that one woman’s case)
Edit: uuuugh I was right about her priorities being off. She really should have found someone else other than Terrance. No wonder she is miserable.
I find it karmic in a sense for trying this stunt and she(SIL) is paying for it. I just feel bad for Terrence and the baby.
Does not sound like that marriage is going to last at all.. Sounds like they both are miserable with each other..
Ppd/baby blues are a hormonal issue. When someone is depressed because their priorities are screwed and they are effing their life up, that's just happening in conjunction with the birth, not because of it.
I think the one who set her to the point of no return is when Terrence accidentally knocked up his FWB. I felt that his FWB love him more. I mean, she kept the pregnancy.
@@acgearsandarms1343poor Terrence? He chose to string her along for years, between relationships when he should have walked away for good. They both should have walked away from each other years ago.
Using your baby's name solely as a way to hurt someone is so so sad (for the baby).
It's sad for the baby, but it's just plain pathetic.
A "shut up ring?" How romantic.
So she got to name her nephew... Lol
@@sadejones6657 my thought, exactly! I would forever be telling that child that I chose his name! 😜🤣
I named your son 😂😂😂😂. Love it
OP was boss AF here: cunning, low-key, petty, and all without damaging the child's life by picking honestly nice names for both possibilities??? Also, good on her for taking the high road - sounds like SIL has some damage she needs to work thru, and OP is wise enough not to insert herself unnecessarily into the drama. Love to see it
That last thing you said 100% here for it.
Yep - until the last update when she said she's going to tell Jess how she tricked her - which will make Jess resent her own child even more than she already does. That poor kid being born into all this. OP was not the AH until she said she was going to do that - that makes her a major AH along with Jess and the insane mother in law.
As Charlotte Dobre would say... "She's moving in the shadows" 😈😂
@@jackspring7709 She didn't say WHEN she would tell her. And the kid has a first name his father gave him, and a pretty routine middle name depending on where they are from. Op said SHE is African-American, so I assume SIL is too, and the kid's name won't stand out.
When people would ask me what names I was considering I always said what I considered ridiculous names, but with a straight face. Like Cleophus Aloysius after hubby's (fictional) great uncle and great-grandfather.
@@jackspring7709 idk I think it’s a good idea because the SIL is wrapped in a lot of crazed delusion. If you told her she was obsessively jealous and needed therapy, she would brush it off. But if you tell her (and especially in front of others) it can shame her to her senses. A grasp of self-awareness and self reflection doesn’t come easily to many people. Sometimes you have to help them along. Now, I wouldn’t laugh in her face about it unless she started attacking me after I sat her down to tell her that we need to have a serious talk as to what her issue is with me and what is going on internally to cause her to desire to compete. And since she is so hyper focused on OP, if other people can hear the story then SIL can see how weird it is (via other people’s reactions) that she would go through all that trouble to theoretically “steal”. If the SIL would resent her own child, OP would not be the cause. The SIL would be the root cause because that would mean deep down she doesn’t love her child and sees the child as an object to compete with--making her a huge AH
Not a damn thing wrong with what OP did. That SIL is so joyless that she has to go on a mission to steal a baby name from OP like it's some kind of prize winning accomplishment is pathetic beyond words. When dealing with trolls, nothing makes them angrier than not giving them the reaction that they want.
and making them feel like a fool
Stealing someone’s baby name will never make any sense to me. Sheesh! Imagine saddling your child with a name you may or may not like, out of spite. 😮 Well done to the OP though. 😂
I feel like OP should never confess since Jess most likely won’t react well. But it’s her choice.
She didn't react well to her kid being a boy. Something tells me op is a drama Llama and is just on tenterhooks waiting for the blow up
@brianaschmidt910 , sounds like SIL is the drama Llama, judging by her disappointment in OP's response to her baby name. If SIL ever does bring up the fake baby names, OP just needs to say, " Yeah, we thought about using those names, but then changed our minds quickly. But how did you know? I thought it was just a coincidence. "
But I really feel sorry for Jess. Her husband doesn't seem to care about her much and I can see her ramping up the drama even more after the twins arrive. And poor little Jordan is in for a hard life. My guess is that Jess will dump him on Grandma as much as she can while trying to commandeer OP's baby girl at every family gathering.
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Oh, no way could I resist letting her know, indirectly.
I'd let my brother know what SHE did.
Honestly it sounds like both of them are fans of drama, though OP may be a lot more chill. But willing to burn a bridge while you're still standing on it? Honey, that's bringing unnecessary drama your way. I would never reveal that to the fam because they may later see it as being on the offense. Some things are better kept between couples and that's that.
What is it with people and baby names? Like the level of unhinged is staggering.
I feel really sorry for the kids of Tarrence and Jess. they are going to have a rough childhood
It's the classic I want what you have, which seems to be the entire base of OP and Jesse's relationship. She is unhappy, so seeing OP happy in her relationship makes her resentful and makes her want to knock OP down a peg.
Really jess should aim her resentment and anger on her husband not Jess. Jess chose him over and over it’s her own fault she doesn’t like her life.
I mean not aim her resentment to op
IKR? Not sure why people have feelings about other people's baby names, except when they are Tragedeighs...those should be stopped if they can be. No child should bear the name Tiny Hooker.
S1: She’s upset at OP for tricking her when SHE was the one who decided to be a sly b- and snoop through their baby room for the name so she can one-up her, but OP’s the AH for tricking her? Sister….open your brain, cause that was a petty move and she deserved it. But i can kinda see how she is when it sounds like she’s always been enabled her whole life. OP and husband should’ve told her to STFU when she wouldn’t stop harassing them before.
Jess is really a sad lady. So desperate for acceptance she will stoop so low. But i like how little OP gives a fuck. A breath of fresh air from the conflict avoidant posters.
Tbh, I don't think what OP did was wrong or bad, but I don't like OP either. She never gave a chance to Jess based on first impressions.
I wonder if Jess planned this as revenge for being treated like crap. I wonder what Jess's perspective could be.
Still, trying so hard to steal baby names is a bit... much.
@@Greenwren Sometimes you just know off the hop you don't enjoy someone's company. That's not a moral failing on OP's part, especially when she's never attempted to make Jess's life hard. Some people don't click and that's fine. Everyone has a right to civility by default.
Jess is the one being actively antagonistic towards someone who just... hasn't gone out of their way to be "omg bestie!!!". As my teachers have always told me when it comes to workplace proffessionalism "You don't have to invite everyone for spaghetti dinners on fridays(aka be best friends), but you are expected to remain polite and respectful." Jess seems to have missed that memo.
@@MusicalCreativity I'm not blaming her feeling off but she just decided nope and never tried again by her account. We don't know if she tried to make Jess's life hard, we only have OP 's side.
@@Greenwren The fact that OP states Jess and Terrance moving back to the same state has made it harder to "dodge" Jess should be a pretty clear indicator that OP hasn't been trying to make Jess's life hard(no, avoiding someone you don't mesh well with to minimize potential conflict is *not* the same as making that person's life hard). The only one of out OP and Jess that has been trying to make anyone's life hard is Jess, and not just to OP but to Terrance and pretty much everyone else around her(and only because she's miserable with herself and misery loves company).
@@AMStryx Cool, we still don't know.
7:00 op has the honor of naming her nephew 😂😂😂😂
@@MsMookalate Exactly!
Kudos to you for picking a nice name for her to steal!
Yes indeed! The baby is innocent in all this!
1 of my coworkers did a nice comeback.
Her cousin ( cousin hates her for no reason) got pregnant, my coworker was also pregnant
Coworker had a girl. Told cousin they were planning to name her Beverly
Cousin was so set on taking the name that she completely forgot she was having a boy….
Yup. Named him Beverly
Her husband wanted Brian if a boy and didn’t mind Beverly if a girl. Well truth came out at birth.
Cousin: if she didn’t tell me she planned to name her Beverly, I wouldn’t have a son with the same name. He’d have a boys name. It’s her fault for telling me.
Literally admitted it in front of her family, his family, hospital staff.
You could hear a pin drop in there because everyone was like, oh shit…
How pathetic. That poor boy
Here's to hoping the dad filled out the paperwork instead 😬
Beverly was originally a male name.
@@nannettepolcastro4799 Yeah, It was, probably still is in some places. As is Carroll, Gail, Leslie, and a few others I can think ot (I've know men with all of those names) However, these days I think most people think of it as a woman's name. It would be kind of like naming your daughter Hortense. At one time that was a relativity common name. Now it's mostly a punch line to a joke about old spinsters. It would be cruel to name a girl that.
@@andrewalexander9492yes this. I went to school with a boy named Ashley and it was brutal for him. His last name was Olsen too so that didn’t help. Cruel is the right word.
This is why comparassion is the thief of joy. Jess is so jealous and comparass herself to OP that she became miserable.
Yeah absolutely. Makes me wonder if it took that long to Terrance to commit because he didn't like that aspect of her character... makes me wonder why he didn't just stay gone when he had the chance. Yikes. It sucks to be your own worst enemy.
Do you mean comparison/compare? It sounds like you mashed comparison and compassion together lol
@@TalenkauenTV It's probably a mash of 'compare' and 'embarrass'
Husband should've paid off the bet right there in the room.
That would have been grand!😂
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Every time I feel down about being 90-100% estranged from my entire family, I just listen to one of these, and remind myself I'm probably better off.
This.
Story 1: I have been laughing so hard the whole time 😂😂😂
The only ah move is the parent naming their kid to purposely cause drama in the family. Doesn't matter the means, naming your kid for petty reasons is why some people don't deserve happiness in their lives.
The only way they would have been an ahole was if the fake name was a tragedeigh name. They picked something normal, so at least the kid won't be bullied. I feel sorry for little Sebastian, though, with a mom like that.
Right? And it looks like BIL liked the name Ali enough to keep it as a middle name.
And honestly, Aria Rose is such a pretty combination, OP could have done a lot worse with the names she chose.
Even then that's pushing the a hole thing. All she dad was write names on a paper and left it in their own private room.
It's the same way people who get their food stolen out laxatives in it aren't the assholes.
People going out of their way to be malicious and have it backfire on them aren't the victims
With the amount of tragedeigh names I hear I think people with normal names are going to eventually be the ones who get bullied.
@MegaBumblebee666 sometimes they do...for being "basic".
Imagine waiting 7 YEARS to have a child and the only thing on your mind is "I gotta one up my sil"
I feel bad for the child.
Story 1: NTA, she fell into your trap because she wanted to be petty, I suspected the SIL won't even be a proper parent because she would be upset because her move backfired
Story 1: Jess is obsessed with envy about OP's life. She wants to be OP. That's sad enough. But to struggle to have a child and then be so disappointed over its gender is the truly sad thing. She may resent this innocent child for the rest of her life, instead of realizing how lucky she is to have finally gotten married and have a healthy baby! The whole name-spying scheme just revealed how desperately Jess wants OP's life, along with Jess' remark about marrying the wrong brother. What a way to waste your life!
my cousins got pregnant pretty close to each other. one of them took her sisters "top pick" baby name and her daughter was born first. EVERYONE in the family knew this was the name (spoiler: it wasn't). when sister found out the name all she said was, "katie if you wanted me to name your baby all you had to do was say so" in the end, cuz didnt actually steal anything, looked like an idiot and vindictive, and her sis came out looking like the bigger person for being gracious to her sister. in reality, she just knew how her sister would be lol
Story 1 Op learned from other people stories were they stole family names
Story one: ALL THE LADIES, DO THIS. I don’t understand nor will I ever understand people who want to ruin other people’s pregnancies or steal names. But if you have someone in your life like this, CHOOSE A FAKE NAME AND WATCH THE TANTRUM WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR BABY
My mother had her heart set on a specific name for me, her first girl (and her first surviving kid after 9 miscarriages). My aunt/uncle stole the name, so I've a cousin with a name I've always known 'should' be mine. It sort of worked out for me, two other people suggested my actual name to my mother, and she thought that was too good a coincidence to let go, lol
Love that mood booster story!
If you do something that will require a person to do something ridiculously rude/nosey/dickish to even learn about, much less be affected by, you are not the A-hole.
I feel sad for sil's baby. His mom seems like someone who thrives on one upping others and may try to use her son in this way. Imagine how she'll treat him if he doesn't live up to her standards.
The sister calling what OP1 did an “a-hole move” is beyond delusional even if she was only saying it lightly. Like- OP1 put the decoy names in a dresser drawer in a room of their house no one was supposed to go in. How is she the a-hole when she made it as hard as possible for jess to do this and she still did it???
Its times like this where I'm reminded of a reddit story where a petty woman nuked her marriage in part because she stole the baby name the OP of that story had been planning to use.
The problem arises in that the OP was naming her kid after someone from her husband's family.
So the petty lady's husband obviously became annoyed with that once he found out. Cause you know, even if she was not, it comes off as his wife obsessing over another man.
I remember the exact story you’re talking about. People are crazy
Gosh Jess really lower herself marrying that man. She should've left a long time ago and gotten some self respect. He clearly doesn't respect her and they are in a toxic relationship
Comparison really is the thief of joy. Maybe Jess could’ve been happy if she wasn’t constantly competing with OP and focused on herself.
You must be joking, Jess is way more toxic than him, he married down, not her.
@samoanjoseph1457 my thing stands from the fact that she had to force him to me marry her, yes, it makes her sad pick me girl, but it also means that he has no respect for her and truly does not love her. Because if you truly love someone and want to spend the rest of your life with them, you get married, that is one of the points of marriage. Honestly, he sounds like a completely toxic dude and yeah, she sounds toxic but that doesn't make him any less toxic
@savannahmae3679 - No, she is toxic, and he's simultaneously done with her nonsense, while being so robbed of self-esteem that he thinks he can't do better.
"You can just leave" "As you wish, while taking a big sip of my Smiley Face coffee"
MIL saying “girl, it’s a mess”.cracked me up!
Story 1: NTA, OP is great and handled the situation well! However, I feel bad for SIL's baby... His mother used him as a pawn 😢
My grandmother always advised it is best to keep baby names secret until the birth. It prevents so many problems with relatives and friends.
Your grandmother was a wise lady!
S1: NTA. Jess wanted to be petty and OP outsmarted her. Jess is probably mad now because her petty plan didn't work and she can't complain about it to anyone. Everyone would tell her she was an AH for trying to steal the name. The only way OP would be the AH is if she had chosen weird names that would get a child bullied. SHE DIDN'T, she chose perfectly normal names. OP is in the clear.
Edit after the update: Poor Jordan Ali.
No one seems to have picked up Jess’s behaviour. She went into the nursery where she had no business to be to pry, rifled through at least one drawer and carefully replaced things so as not to leave any trace of her invasion of OP’s home. That says a lot about who she is. The outcome of the name choice is a direct result of her despicable behaviour and serves her right. She has outed herself.
I'm glad we mentioned the mil, because her difference in approval between the two DOES seem to be egging the whole situation on.
Love it! My dad had four brothers and no sisters. When he and Mom had kids, they had one son and then four daughters together, which thrilled Dad's father because he was close with his sisters but Grandma always looked like she was sucking on a lemon when she looked at the four of us. As Mom told her, it's fifty fifty on what you get every time.
Would be absolutely hilarious if OP gifted SIL the exact name decor from the paper she printed in the first place, for her new baby 💀
DIABOLICAL!! LOVEIT❤❤❤
Story 1: 😂 NEVER tell Jess. (User angry_scream’s suggestion especially made me snort.)
Update: MAN, a “mess” doesn’t come close to describe that backstory, but in the end, Jess’s actions are her own. I hope she has a “come to Jesus moment” and gets the help she needs. Also gender disappointment really makes me sad. I worry about that baby boy.
Story 1: NTA. Exactly what would you be TA for? Not putting yourself into a position to be upset? You let her find a good name for her to steal, I would have picked bad ones.
S1: two steps ahead lmao 🤣
Sick of people saying it’s an AH move when it wouldn’t even happen if the other person WASNT AN AH THEMSELVES. Like if Jess wasn’t a b then this wouldn’t have even happened!!
Nope! This is genius
also genius was a story i heard a while back about a sister/stepsister taking a name from an op but it was a set up by them think it had something to do with a battle gettysburg or something i think after someones grandfather or some relative lol
@diamonddiva3204 i remember that one! I love these stories! They make me feel better about not having drama in my life more and more by the day 🤣🤣
I had to do a double take, but I love your username 😂
Especially in family dynamics where everyone is of child bearing age, and lots of new babies are coming along; no one wants their baby to have the same name (cousins and confusion arises), but going out of one's way to 'steal' an apparently preferred name is indicative of a mental health issue. I feel very sorry for hubby and infant in SIL's family.
I love that OP did this. I do love that OP also went a combo of Disney names for her nephew's name. It's cute.
I think its amazing that auntie and uncle got to name their nephew. SIL learned to FAFO 😂
I haven’t stolen any names as most of our kids have Japanese names, but my family joke that I’m using up all the names since I have a whooping 14 kids…
If SIL asks me about the names, my excuse would've been "oh! Those??? I picked random names to see how it would look!"
She gave decent names. It would be bogus if they had used awful names. For that alone. She did nothing wrong
Agree Op SIL is lucky Op didn’t pick something super weird
At least OP picked cute names. She can always think of it as having named her nephew 🥰
s2: lmao, when will these bosses learn? that was the weakest bargaining chip i've heard of, it's actually kinda sad.
Stealing baby names is so tacky and unoriginal. There is something sacred about names- a deep and personal meeting that speaks volumes about parents and child. If you steal a name , that means you have nothing original to say.
If Jess hadn't snooped and intentionally used the name she THOUGHT you wanted, she wouldn't have gotten upset. And how pathetic a life does anyone have when they're deliberately trying to one-up someone like this? It doesn't make her superior in any way.
NTA - she snooped and faced the consequences of her actions.
I really don't understand this name envy crap. There are millions of names, seriously, fighting over one is ridiculous.
It's not about the name, it's about getting one over on someone. To hold something over their head that you know they wanted, but you took. It's about power, no matter how petty.
The thing is it's very rarely a fight over a name. Sure it happens sometimes when 2 family members want to name their child after a certain family member. But most of the time it's one person being a vindictive AH and stealing someone else's choosen name and the other person understandably being upset.
Story 1 is very... missed opportunity to go "Ha! You owe me 20 bucks!". Though, I guess gushing over it might have cut deeper.
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First Story... Just 1/4 in my mind went: Jess has some jealousy issues. By the end I'm: "Jess is seriously in need of therapy".
That woman will cause more, and more damaging problems for the family and for herself if her issues are not addressed.
Also: From the story it sounded like Jess's husband is not as invested in their relationship as he might be, and he could just get fed up with the drama and dump her.
I do very much admire OP's creativity with her trap. Brilliant!
Auntie should totally start calling him _Sebbykins_ just to rub it in, but before his memory kicks in lol
Two great stories with happy endings!
I remember hearing the first story before and I still have mad respect for the OP for pulling what they did. Firstly that the names they picked are actually cute and presumably go well with their shared last name, others wouldn't be so kind.
Secondly that she has Jess absolutely socially hogtied with built in plausible deniability. Jess can't confront them about the names without revealing that she snooped for the names and even then OP can still claim the names on the order sheet were "Round One Picks", hence why they never made the order and why it was left "forgotten" in a drawer in the unfinished nursery.
Story 1: NTA this is hilarious XD the fact that you got a 20 makes everything better. Is not like you used overly-ridiculous fake names that would get her kid bullied, Aria Rose is actualy really pretty and Sebastian Ali, while not the best combo, is completely normal name.
Jess wanted to start drama by using your baby name as a power play and was hoping you'll react in a way that would allowed her to play victim. Now that she didn't get the reaction she wanted, she is regreting using her baby's name as a power play instead of using a name she likes.
After update: Ok, this is way beyond a power play, SIL sounds like a miserable and envious person. I feel bad for her son, but at least the father got to name the kid something he likes.
I hope SIL gets help to deal with her emotional mess and maneges to be a good mother to Jordan Ali. And that this doesn't turn into a severe case of "gender disapointment".
The text said Sebastian, not Jordan.
@@nannettepolcastro4799 you didn’t watch the rest of the video? There was an update, where SIL’s husband didn’t like the name Sebastian and refused to use it (she’d never discussed the name with him), so they ended up naming the baby Jordan Ali.
Story 1: NTA. If I ever have a child and knew a family member/friend that would totally try this, I'm taking this idea! 🤣
NTA - This is a hoot! The way she set this up it took SIL a LOT of work to "steal" that name.
I don't understand stealing baby names like that.
My little sister fully tried to steal my baby name once. When she got pregnant with her first son, she was talking baby names aloud, and mentioned loving the name that she knew full well I'd set aside for my own son if I ever had one. Thankfully, she made the mistake of doing this in front of me at a holiday gathering with everyone in the room. I, loudly and without thinking, asked her to please not do that because she knew full well that I'd had that name chosen for almost a decade. She didn't, in the end -- but she did give her son my husband's first name for the boy's middle name. I went on the have a son and give him the name she tried to steal. Whenever her son misbehaves and I happen to be nearby, she calls him by his full name (Babyname BIL's-name) and glances at me with a sickly-sweet grin to see if I'm upset than she nabbed my husband's name and now we 'can't' use it ourselves. Joke's on you, bitch: I hate the idea of juniors. You didn't steal shit.
NTA:SIL played herself.
If the names were worse I'd say she was not nice, but she chose okay names.
Jess should never have gotten back with Terrance, her own fault her life sucks
Sharing with family that you’re actively trying to get pregnant will always be strange to me lmao
Being asked over and over by family about when you're going to have kids is also strange. It's basically old people begging their kids to do cream pies
Story 1: for me what I feel sorry is for Jess. She's in a family that doesn't love her, her husband I don't think loves her, and she's really doing what she can to be accepted. There comes a point where you have to accept that you're not in a good place, regardless of the sister-in-law's perspective. She's just bitter.
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Story 1: That is hilarious. I love that. Your Sister-in-law is a narcissist and you beat her at her own game. You are the queen. Congratulations.
Also can we just be happy that op have her nephew a normal name and not just some weird random "unique" one
True. I got recommended the 'tragedeigh' sub after reading this story on reddit 😂
I know someone who also did this.But the husband thought out that the initials spelled out something horrible. So the name was like Alexander Shawn Shereborn. Not the real name but .The sister also pregnet stole the list of names off their fridge. Of corse the real names picked were never written down.But every girl or boy name was Three letters of fun. They still haven’t gotten it. Their girl was named again off their list Sophia Olivia Shereborn . They broke down in giggles. She claims that her sister hasn’t figured out it the initials yet. But she is thinking of getting the kids engraved Christmas ornaments . What a witch! But I’m pretty sure she was just joking. She loves those kids.
My bio mom hounded me about the name of our first born. She insisted on family names bc she wanted them to grow up to be like that family member. No joke this is how she thought it was gonna go we kept quiet on the name. She did accuse us of having a name and not telling her but we kept quiet. And yes she hates the name we picked. It's not a family name though it is a normal every day name (think Sarah or Rebecca) with a normal spelling. She just hates it's not a family name
My mom told me she didn't like my kiddo's name. I told her I didn't care, that she had two kids that she got to pick out their names, and that I don't like mine. She changed her tune and accepted the baby's name before the kiddo was born.
My uncle is Gregory the 5th a name that runs on both my grandmother and grandfathers side of the family for many generations. So he went out of his way to not give his children family names. He failed both his daughters middle names turned out to be long running family names he was simply unaware off till a member of the family did an in-depth family tree.
My dad went the other way my brother is Gregory the 6th my sister is her mother's nickname and I am a hydride of my father and both my grandmothers.
9:09 No. You do NOT publicly out the cray-cray. Cthulhu knows what might happen later.
"We named the baby Sludgeblop, after you."
I told my cousin who was visiting from south america the unique baby name i wanted to give my kid one day. Its a traditional name from our home country. A couple of years later, his wife became pregnant. And they told me that his name was the one i was gonna do!! I don't know if he remembered the conversation we had or not...but i do remember him liking the name and being like "wow thats cool you'd name your kid that!" So i clearly planted the seed. He probably didn't remember where the idea came from. But i was definitely bothered by it!
S1: I'm just glad OP didn't leave out hideous names for SIL to snoop for. The baby may have been an unwitting pawn in SIL's weird game, but at least he has a nice name.
Story 1: (NTA) If I ever had kids any; friend, family member or colleague was pregnant around the same time as me, I'd be going info-diet with baby names. In this case, you and your husband were united in testing this baby name stealing idea. Imagine being so insecure that you feel the need to copy someone else's ideas for a baby name. What happens when the kid finds out why you named them what you named them. Also, never the a**hole for proving that a narc isn't as smart as they think they are. Love the "I picked the baby name for Jess" bragging idea.
Update: Oh MIL, I like her. Baby gender anxiety? Jess really wanted a girl to get a mini-her, if she had a girl, and she turned out to be a sports nut or a goth or whatever Jess wasn't the misery and pain. Post partum depression? And they changed the name, yay, it's the first step in an uphill battle.
Jess is going to be a terrible mother
NTAH; you WON $20!
It’s fun to get to name your nephew! I hope OP is the best auntie ever to that baby because I think he’ll need a good auntie.
NTA. Congratulations Jess you just played yourself 😂😂😂😂
The child in the first story is going to have a miserable childhood, I'm so sorry for him.
Why is it so important to know the babies name and let it be known when they come.
My son Shane recently turned 60... and yes even in 1964 they stole baby names. A neighbour's newborn Brian was suddenly called Shane.
It never fazed me, because who knows where they are now.
Twins are SO COMMON in these stories.
S1 op didn't tell her directly, she just had some names option in a drawer, so she shouldn't have looked and try to stole names, now she is butthurt?too Bad for her
Lol I love these stories
My sisters and I ended up stealing each other's baby names. My youngest sister took my middle sister's favourite girl name and when my middle sister had her daughter she took my favourite middle name. I had no problem with it because by then I was finished with having children and only have boys, my middle sister was also okay with the name stealing since her then husband had vetoed it
She should have hidden a camera to actually catch her on tape finding the name in the drawer😂
I always love it when a worker just sticks it to the boss like that. As much as I hate Right To Work laws in as they grossly benefit employers over employees, I am so glad that the one right workers have is "can quit at any time without notice."
This is the most entertaining AITA? The story an comments are great! I like the one that OP should say she was going to suggest names - and is so thrilled that Jess chose one, and OPs phrase 'shut up ring'. It does not surprise me Jess has not bonded with her baby - as she just sees it as a 'thing' to get because others have one. Jess sounds like she should be in a padded cell with a doll to play with.