@@lessforloans no they aren’t bro. MMA boxing all that shit is illegal and there’s no place for it. I get they aren’t elbowing or punching here but that doesn’t mean allow steroids. That gives others advantages over guys that aren’t juiced wtf are we even talking about. That shit should not be allowed
If anyone was doubting if Dillon is good BJJ, this should answer their question. Logan was trying to clown him saying he was. Gordon Ryan is the best in the world and juiced to the gills. And Dillon fought him to a draw. Pretty impressive. Obviously he’s not the same fighter he was in 2017 but I’m sure he’s still legit af. He would tap out Logan in less than a minute in an MMA match.
Dillon had huge potential but again, he's one of "what if? " fighters in MMA and bjj... Yes, he had leg injury but I hope he beats logan and takes that hype to ufc and actually compete.... He still has years of career in him...
Dillon Danis has embraced the troll life but anyone who thinks he isnt an elite grappler is out of their mind, completely ignorant to his accomplishments or trolling themselves.
@@casillasscorertf u on about. Did you not watch the same video we all did. DD is elite level grappler no questions about it. Anyone black belt and beyond is extremely skilled in jj.
@@casillasscorer given that there are dozens of millions of people performing some form of grappling art id say hes easily amongst the 0,X% of grapplers. dunno but i feel that makes you kinda elite
What an interesting niche Mighty Mouse has found for himself in the breakdowns of these type of fights. I really enjoy it, and it seems to pull a lot of views
I can't believe DJ gives us this knowledge for free. This kind of knowledge from a battle bred warrior is rare and doesn't come cheap. Thanks DJ sincerely.
9:04 to be fair DJ i think the battle of “nutrition” took place during the fight prep.. jk man i know you meant Attrition 😂 love the breakdown man, super insightful for a casual like me!
In ADCC rules, you have to put the person on their back in order to score take down points. Coming around behind them doesn't score in that rule set. You actually get a negative score in ADCC if you pull guard. That being said Gordon Ryan and Marcella Garcia are the only two people who have won and dominated with guardwork
Love your analysis DJ. I am by no means an expert, but this constant butt scooting drives me insane. I completely agree that players should have to stand back up if they can’t advance a position or they can’t get a legit takedown.
I’ve been practicing martial arts for over 20 years. I’ve done boxing, Muay Thai, MMA, wrestling, and BJJ and I absolutely love the mechanics of fighting whether it be striking or grappling. That being said, watching jiu jitsu has to be the most boring thing in combat sports. I have a great appreciation for the art and the skill set required in order to do it, I’m regularly getting humbled in the gym and it’s always cool to learn new ways to effect somebody’s balance but man I just cannot watch jiu jitsu especially no-gi. The fact that they are allowed to pull guard as much as they do kinda makes it feel like they aren’t in a fight anymore if that makes any sense it feels more like a game than an actual combat sport sometimes (no disrespect intended again I have a great appreciation for the art and props to anyone who competes)
So nice to see that someone like Ryan could get so jacked over the years completely naturally. A huge motivator for those of us who refuse to cheat. Go Ryan!
@@aebersoldbjjlosses don’t really work that way in bjj. You could lose close matches on advantages, refs decisions even penalties. Some of the best guys in bjj and world champions have like 40/50 losses on their record. It’s normal in bjj He was competing at the world level and losing to Leandro Lo on a single advantage. How can you say he’s shit? Lol Dillon beat guys like Murillo, Jackson Souza, had close matches with Lo, Gordan Ryan. He won brown belts world and pans at black. You don’t get much better than that, to put it context DJ won world at masters II at brown and everyone went crazy for him, so how can we shit on Danis when he was legit one of the best in the world?
@@squidguard1 He’s not bad by any means but he does not match up well against the top 10 of any weight class at black belt right now in my opinion. A pretty bad record compared to most
@@kenyandrama from what we've we seen he has zero striking. If he managed to learn takedowns and MMA grappling (which is way more than just No-Gi which Gordon only practices), then he's got a shot. But considering his weight now, he'd be in the light heavyweight or heavyweight decision, and if he gets in a fight with any ranked fighters in those divisions and doesnt learn to strike, hes done for. Any ranked heavyweight or light heavyweight would smoke Gordon standing up. He'd seriously be KO'd unless he learns how to strike. His jiu jutsu would be really good if the fight goes to the ground but he's gonna need much more than that to win a championship in either division. So I'd say he would NOT be an instant champion. But he could certainly be better than how Ben Askren was in the UFC. Ryan would have to train a couple of years in MMA before considering joining though.
Great commentary/review of the match. Your principles are on point. Re: scoring, both ADCC & IBJJF require 3 seconds in the control position after passing...and really it's more like 5 seconds. ADCC also adds that passing the guard includes 75% of the back on the mat...so someone on their side doesn't count as passing the guard.
Not sure if it was called out yet, but ADCC has 3 rounds essentially, the first one is no points, then seamlessly going into the other half with points. Once that period is over, they are stood back up for overtime with points. When points periods begin, pulling guard gives the other person a point, or gives the guard puller a negative, I forget. So the last 5 minutes Dillon doesn't pull guard because he can't without losing.
Technically this isn't Jiu Jitsu, it's submission grappling. There's no advantages, and for a take down to score they have to put their opponent on their back. So turtling avoids points being scored.
DJ ur recent IBJJF Gold made u the best Martial artist of all time in my opinion. Truly inspirational/ legendary stuff Congrats Champ and best of luck in whatever ur next moves are. U dont have to compete ever again. But ill be tuned in if u do
i agree w you dj, cause this is whats stopping main stream from watching bjj. so much stalling and lack of action. but on the other side of things this is bjj and not wrestling even though it has wrestling components in it. i'd like to see a tournament w your idea of them forcing the wrestling though.
@@Mighty15xabsolutely right you should have to stand up after 30 seconds of nonprogresion .100 percent. i never understood why they let someone stay at guard all day
I wanna start by saying utmost respect for both these fighters. I completely agree about the over use of pulling guard even understanding some of the mechanics and being able to appreciate the mental and power struggle in a grappling match. I also understand the mindset and advantage behind pulling guard, i just could'nt fight in such a "sad" way for lack of a better word. Continuously pulling guard to the point of not even pulling guard but just sitting down and hoping he falls into guard then scooting around the ring on your bum like a dog. (I mean that dog comment with no disrespect that's just what i thought of seeing him scoot around the ring like that). I
I’ve train at a lot of high level gyms and not once have I ever heard anyone half decent ever complain about guard pulling. It’s always the casuals who don’t train or guys who aren’t really goof
When in overtime in ADCC pulling guard is actually a penalty that’s why no one is pulling after the first 10’. Also in 16:07 they ended up being in the turtle position so no points nor an advantage for it in ADCC. I think that this would be considered an advantage in ibjjf, not sure though cause the turtle position was a result of a scramble.
You are a GREAT analyst. Hopefully your One contract doesn't prevent you from working analyst gigs outside of One. Your fight IQ is on full display as an analyst and it's so high that you help 10 yr old little girl MMA fans clearly understand this bout play by play. Well done, DJ!
I only watch BJJ, no real world experience by any means, but your opinion that they can’t just pull guard without forcing a takedown seems brilliant. I know it would change the game, but seems way more legit. It’s also way more practical in the real world. But what do I know.
I absolutely agree with the GOAT, pulling guard without a connection should be prohibited. IMHO, only throws and takedowns should be allowed for bringing the fight to the ground.
Did I hear DJ say it's a battle of nutrition?? I think that's a high level way of referring to a battle of attrition based on ones endurance given their respective diets!
The bad thing about making a rule against pulling guard is then you have guys on their feet the entire match and never even grapple. Like aljo vs grundy recently
Exactly. Had this happen in my first ever grappling match, I didn’t know I was allowed to just sit down and fought a Russian wrestler. After he scored 2 takedowns, he just stalled the round out standing where I couldn’t do shit. Was practically a wrestling match because I didn’t know he is forced to engage on the ground
Good! That’s where fights actually start! Butt scooting is not effective for a street fight! BJJ is a martial art. Let’s put some realism back into the sport.
I think in adcc the first five mins there’s no points and after the first five mins when points start he can’t pull guard or he’ll get a negative so if he doesn’t get up he can stay on the ground
Great Video DJ, I would have paid a lot of money to see you fight Davison Figuredo and all the other UFC Flyweights to show the world why you are the G.O.A.T
I think ADCC rules are a bit different, like points were not in play yet when he got the sweep, and if you take down and they turtle you don’t get points you have to break them down. Correct me if I’m wrong.
You're right, points don't start until later which is why Gordon was pulling guard knowing Dillon wouldn't get points for the takedown (once points are on you can't pull guard like that iirc). Strong wrestlers (or Dillon in this case) like to stall against a superior jiu jitsu practitioner by constantly NOT doing jiu jitsu until points are on and then land the takedown late in the match and stall with the point advantage for the win. Dillon's jiu jitsu wasn't nearly as good as Gordon's even at this time, which is why he was trying to game the ADCC rule set for the win.
Agreed, all fights start on the feet regardless of what art you choose to utilize. No reason you should be on the ground begging your opponent to over extend the whole match. Especially seeing certain organizations penilize the standing fighter for disengaging.
i really appreciate your opinions champ! i agree with you. gordon shouldnt be able to pull guard so much without any repercussions. adcc rules usually reflect that now though. 1 pt to opponent if you pull guard in the first half of the match. keep these breakdowns coming,
ADCC rules 1. Take downs only count when shoulders touch the mat with control 2. No advantages only negative points 3. No points until halfway through the match 4. Guard pulls without contact are negative points, once points are allowed.
Amazing how huge Gordon Ryan got over the years. For the ones who think Dillion Danis sucks better go watch his world championships in JuJitSu he ls very talented in JuJitsu and would hurt Logan in mma or jujitsu match
I agree with everything. Pulling guard with a connection is valid. Butt scooting for too long gives too much distance and you'd have to endure a lot of kicks to close distance a lot of the time in any sort of real encounter. BJJ can't get too far away from practical roots.
Couple quick ADCC rules, thats important to the video first 5 minutes, no points next 5 minutes, points active, negative point for guard pulls (although if your already sitting you can remain seated, if you stand up you'd then get a negative for a pull. to secure passing points you have to get both there shoulders on the mat. is the person passing disengages and runs you can get a negative Over time 5 minutes , points, no guards.
LOVE YOUR WORK MM There’s one move iv not seen anywhere here on the internet or in any world class training camp,it’s technical name is called , “ THE TYPEWRITER” Now pull gaurd get into a dominant position by sitting on there chest ,pin there arms under your knees ,and viciously poke there chest with your fingers ,followed with a quick slap to the face.Repeat again N again . “THE TYPEWRITER” it’s a “NOVELTY MOVE”I know I know 🙈
I prefer watching no-gi just because it's more realistic to real life situations since you don't have a lapel or sleeve that's unrealistically strong to control posture in. Great breakdown.
Most normal clothes people wear are favorable for grappling as opposed to none. Not sure if you've mingled much but a good ol t shirt or button down and someone wearing jeans ain't much different from a gi
@@shad3128 If you think regular shirts are anything like a gi you have no idea what you're talking about. If you put a quarter of the power you can grip a gi lapel it would rip. Just stop.
Competition really strips martial arts of a lot of it's effectiveness. That would never work in a real fight, imagine Gordon in pride, sitting down and scooting toward someone like cro cop. Tournament bbj works in bbj tournaments, under BJJ rules. It's very important to learn the true form of what ever martial art you learn.
Props to Gordon he’s definitely amazing at his craft and a master. But imagine fighting someone like that. On your ass. You’re one soccer kick to the face away from a rude awakening
I vote for DJ's rules. I pretty much stay in sub only. Correct me if I'm wrong; if the person in guard stands up, he can stay back and wave his opponent to his feet. I've done it before, but I don't have a ton of experience in tournaments to know how it works across the board.
Disagree with your opinion on pulling guard. I think the hesitation to pull should come naturally - guard passing technique must evolve to a state where it's much stronger than the current leg lock, sweep, or wrestle up strategy. BJJ guys use stand up to stall, and forcing them to stand would make this worse alongside slowing down open guard development
i can see your view point but that why you start forcing them to shoot, thats what they do in wrestling. and in judo i am told you can’t not straighten you arms that is called stalling and you would be dq
You’ve got to look into the ruleset of these different tournaments if you going to comment on scoring sequences. This is ADCC, therefore, for the first 5 minutes there’s no scoring, period. It encourages submissions. Points are only enacted in the final five minutes.
As someone not in BJJ I feel like it should be a single point for forcing guard. I can definitely see why people wouldn’t want to watch someone try and break guard perpetually. You should be penalized for not being in control of the round. Sure there would be more points but it would make it so much more fun to watch.
Super impressive the way gordon was able to sit down repeatedly until time ran out. Big props
He’s also juiced outta his mind 😂
@@haydenbain3633like most of them are
@@nicolaidalsklev446no not like most of them are. It’s complete BS they are allowed to juice
@@SaVaGe-513what. Like almost all of them if not all are in something at this level now. As in todays environment. This shit is old
@@lessforloans no they aren’t bro. MMA boxing all that shit is illegal and there’s no place for it. I get they aren’t elbowing or punching here but that doesn’t mean allow steroids. That gives others advantages over guys that aren’t juiced wtf are we even talking about. That shit should not be allowed
Props to Dillon. Going ten minutes with Ryan and not only surviving but taking the match to what is essentially a tie is pretty impressive.
dude i thought that was very impressive but gordon now would smash him
dillons natty @@gagequakenbush4658
@@gagequakenbush4658 yes because he is taking gigantic amounts of steroids
@@gagequakenbush4658yeah roids will do that to people
@@Slvmberwas he even natural at this point?
If anyone was doubting if Dillon is good BJJ, this should answer their question. Logan was trying to clown him saying he was. Gordon Ryan is the best in the world and juiced to the gills. And Dillon fought him to a draw. Pretty impressive. Obviously he’s not the same fighter he was in 2017 but I’m sure he’s still legit af. He would tap out Logan in less than a minute in an MMA match.
Dillon had huge potential but again, he's one of "what if? " fighters in MMA and bjj...
Yes, he had leg injury but I hope he beats logan and takes that hype to ufc and actually compete.... He still has years of career in him...
less than a minute is generous
@@jiahaogoh2822 generous towards who?
Gordon wasn't juiced back then
To claim Dillon wasn’t good at bjj shows how normie logan is about the fight game
Dillon Danis has embraced the troll life but anyone who thinks he isnt an elite grappler is out of their mind, completely ignorant to his accomplishments or trolling themselves.
He’s a good grappler but I wouldn’t say Elite. Elite is thrown around too much and should be reserved to the tippy top of the mountain
@@casillasscorerHe just went against the mountain though ☠️
@@casillasscorertf u on about. Did you not watch the same video we all did. DD is elite level grappler no questions about it. Anyone black belt and beyond is extremely skilled in jj.
Bro anybody competing in adcc is elite, such an ignorant comment
@@casillasscorer given that there are dozens of millions of people performing some form of grappling art id say hes easily amongst the 0,X% of grapplers.
dunno but i feel that makes you kinda elite
A collab with DJ and Craig Jones would honestly be cool idk why I even am thinking about that
Volk and Dj is what I'm waiting on.
I'm hoping DJ goes on Whittaker's podcast personally
Adesanya-Jones, Costa - Cejudo, DJ - Cejudo. Not sure if that's possible
The vibe was pretty unmatched
Would be cool if DJ goes to B-Team to train and shoot some vids
What an interesting niche Mighty Mouse has found for himself in the breakdowns of these type of fights. I really enjoy it, and it seems to pull a lot of views
yup its crazy cause peeps don’t care about the aew stuff i did so the BTS stuff is gonna be for members only.
@@Mighty15xrip hey mouse how old is to old for becoming mma fighter and legitnbecoming a chanp
@@kickintvlog1903tomorrow is too old start now
@@kickintvlog1903 Anything over 30 is no go
@@tygaming3059🤏
What a crazy time in history where we can watch one of the Greats do a play by play of another Great's game. Invaluable info. Awesome video, champ.
My favorite part of the tournament DJ won was all of his opponents pulling guard and him steamrolling it.
I can't believe DJ gives us this knowledge for free. This kind of knowledge from a battle bred warrior is rare and doesn't come cheap. Thanks DJ sincerely.
This is just a match review. It’s nice to see but isn’t unusual.
@@chrisknight.unicycles yeah but DJ is breaking everything down and that knowledge is valuable
thats the cool thing about martial arts. Its in the culture to give back. DJ is a true martial artist and this channel proves that!
nah frfr
If your watching dj he’s not giving it away for free dawg, your views, data, and even comments can be valuable
9:04 to be fair DJ i think the battle of “nutrition” took place during the fight prep.. jk man i know you meant Attrition 😂 love the breakdown man, super insightful for a casual like me!
In ADCC rules, you have to put the person on their back in order to score take down points. Coming around behind them doesn't score in that rule set.
You actually get a negative score in ADCC if you pull guard. That being said Gordon Ryan and Marcella Garcia are the only two people who have won and dominated with guardwork
Love your analysis DJ. I am by no means an expert, but this constant butt scooting drives me insane. I completely agree that players should have to stand back up if they can’t advance a position or they can’t get a legit takedown.
I’ve been practicing martial arts for over 20 years. I’ve done boxing, Muay Thai, MMA, wrestling, and BJJ and I absolutely love the mechanics of fighting whether it be striking or grappling. That being said, watching jiu jitsu has to be the most boring thing in combat sports. I have a great appreciation for the art and the skill set required in order to do it, I’m regularly getting humbled in the gym and it’s always cool to learn new ways to effect somebody’s balance but man I just cannot watch jiu jitsu especially no-gi. The fact that they are allowed to pull guard as much as they do kinda makes it feel like they aren’t in a fight anymore if that makes any sense it feels more like a game than an actual combat sport sometimes (no disrespect intended again I have a great appreciation for the art and props to anyone who competes)
Pulling guard is so boring why can't BJJ guys learn takedowns my Lord
the beginning of this comment was a waste. lol nobody cares about your 20 years and love for the sport just get to it scrub lol
I agree because i dont what is happening when they are on the ground. I find striking much more exciting.
Yeah watching judo is much more fun. Something about throwing bodies around, and the smack it makes lol.
Watching BJJ is like watching Wrestling. If you aren't about it, that shit is boring af.
So nice to see that someone like Ryan could get so jacked over the years completely naturally. A huge motivator for those of us who refuse to cheat. Go Ryan!
Hahahaha naturally? Ahahahhaha
Ryan has said he’s took steroids because bjj comps don’t test for them.
@@ZiGGi03 i think he was being sarcastic 🤣 I hooe he stops soon, so bad for you, like alcohol.
@@egsevenit’s a joke brother
@@dare_he_is look at my comment before yours
Hahahaahhaha
Dillon Danis submission record is crazy. He’s legit
He’s 18-16 at black belt lol
@@aebersoldbjj18 wins and 16 loss?
@@aebersoldbjjlosses don’t really work that way in bjj. You could lose close matches on advantages, refs decisions even penalties. Some of the best guys in bjj and world champions have like 40/50 losses on their record. It’s normal in bjj
He was competing at the world level and losing to Leandro Lo on a single advantage. How can you say he’s shit? Lol
Dillon beat guys like Murillo, Jackson Souza, had close matches with Lo, Gordan Ryan. He won brown belts world and pans at black. You don’t get much better than that, to put it context DJ won world at masters II at brown and everyone went crazy for him, so how can we shit on Danis when he was legit one of the best in the world?
@@squidguard1 He’s not bad by any means but he does not match up well against the top 10 of any weight class at black belt right now in my opinion. A pretty bad record compared to most
Your fight break down is always so holistic!!
this is an amazing breakdown GOAT thank you
ur welcome!
Wouldn't Gordon Ryan be an instant champion in the UFC or would he be Ben Askerened?
@@kenyandramahe has no striking to speak of as far as i know.
@@kenyandrama from what we've we seen he has zero striking. If he managed to learn takedowns and MMA grappling (which is way more than just No-Gi which Gordon only practices), then he's got a shot. But considering his weight now, he'd be in the light heavyweight or heavyweight decision, and if he gets in a fight with any ranked fighters in those divisions and doesnt learn to strike, hes done for. Any ranked heavyweight or light heavyweight would smoke Gordon standing up. He'd seriously be KO'd unless he learns how to strike. His jiu jutsu would be really good if the fight goes to the ground but he's gonna need much more than that to win a championship in either division.
So I'd say he would NOT be an instant champion. But he could certainly be better than how Ben Askren was in the UFC. Ryan would have to train a couple of years in MMA before considering joining though.
"Its like a battle of nutrition" 😂😂
High level breakdown but that was a gold standard comment!
My new favourite UA-cam channel. The goat sharing his knowledge is just golden content. Keep it up brother ❤
Awesome video champ been a fan for a while and have learnt a lot from your breakdowns ❤
I 100% agree should not just sit in bjj but fight for takedown
Great commentary/review of the match. Your principles are on point. Re: scoring, both ADCC & IBJJF require 3 seconds in the control position after passing...and really it's more like 5 seconds. ADCC also adds that passing the guard includes 75% of the back on the mat...so someone on their side doesn't count as passing the guard.
Not sure if it was called out yet, but ADCC has 3 rounds essentially, the first one is no points, then seamlessly going into the other half with points. Once that period is over, they are stood back up for overtime with points. When points periods begin, pulling guard gives the other person a point, or gives the guard puller a negative, I forget. So the last 5 minutes Dillon doesn't pull guard because he can't without losing.
Technically this isn't Jiu Jitsu, it's submission grappling. There's no advantages, and for a take down to score they have to put their opponent on their back. So turtling avoids points being scored.
DJ ur recent IBJJF Gold made u the best Martial artist of all time in my opinion. Truly inspirational/ legendary stuff
Congrats Champ and best of luck in whatever ur next moves are. U dont have to compete ever again. But ill be tuned in if u do
i agree w you dj, cause this is whats stopping main stream from watching bjj. so much stalling and lack of action. but on the other side of things this is bjj and not wrestling even though it has wrestling components in it. i'd like to see a tournament w your idea of them forcing the wrestling though.
Awesome breakdown! "It's like a Battle of Nutrition" is my new favorite phrase🤣
Well well well the goat has posted again
ur welcome lol!!
Always love to see when the 🐐 uploads. Never a dull video. Keep being the best bud.
thank you sir 🙏🏾
@@Mighty15xabsolutely right you should have to stand up after 30 seconds of nonprogresion .100 percent. i never understood why they let someone stay at guard all day
@@Mighty15x always. But an even bigger thanks to you.
I wanna start by saying utmost respect for both these fighters. I completely agree about the over use of pulling guard even understanding some of the mechanics and being able to appreciate the mental and power struggle in a grappling match. I also understand the mindset and advantage behind pulling guard, i just could'nt fight in such a "sad" way for lack of a better word. Continuously pulling guard to the point of not even pulling guard but just sitting down and hoping he falls into guard then scooting around the ring on your bum like a dog. (I mean that dog comment with no disrespect that's just what i thought of seeing him scoot around the ring like that). I
I’ve train at a lot of high level gyms and not once have I ever heard anyone half decent ever complain about guard pulling. It’s always the casuals who don’t train or guys who aren’t really goof
@@squidguard1 so are you saying Mighty isnt half decent? Interesting
Love this video DJ thank you for doing what you do🙏🏽
When in overtime in ADCC pulling guard is actually a penalty that’s why no one is pulling after the first 10’. Also in 16:07 they ended up being in the turtle position so no points nor an advantage for it in ADCC. I think that this would be considered an advantage in ibjjf, not sure though cause the turtle position was a result of a scramble.
0:56 anyone else notice when demetrius says subscribe then subscribe button glows
You are a GREAT analyst. Hopefully your One contract doesn't prevent you from working analyst gigs outside of One. Your fight IQ is on full display as an analyst and it's so high that you help 10 yr old little girl MMA fans clearly understand this bout play by play. Well done, DJ!
Great video champ!
Thank you sir glad you enjoy it!
MM MMA's GOAT with the breakdowns, thx for the content !
Here after the face off
DJ is spot on about changing up the rules to make grappling more interesting, no one wants to watch some clown butt scoot for 10 minutes to a dec
I only watch BJJ, no real world experience by any means, but your opinion that they can’t just pull guard without forcing a takedown seems brilliant. I know it would change the game, but seems way more legit. It’s also way more practical in the real world. But what do I know.
All UA-camrs should speak about their producers the way you do, still makes you feel apart of the family even with the production levelling up ❤️
Dillon D is legit , but still an online troll 😂
No man can tap me- dillion danis 2023....still holding true to this day
I absolutely agree with the GOAT, pulling guard without a connection should be prohibited. IMHO, only throws and takedowns should be allowed for bringing the fight to the ground.
Did I hear DJ say it's a battle of nutrition?? I think that's a high level way of referring to a battle of attrition based on ones endurance given their respective diets!
The bad thing about making a rule against pulling guard is then you have guys on their feet the entire match and never even grapple. Like aljo vs grundy recently
aka brendan schuab vs cyborg lol
I don't think it'd end up that way tbh
Exactly imo its worse if you force them to stand up cause it just becomes a wrestling match and you don’t see any ground game.
Exactly. Had this happen in my first ever grappling match, I didn’t know I was allowed to just sit down and fought a Russian wrestler. After he scored 2 takedowns, he just stalled the round out standing where I couldn’t do shit. Was practically a wrestling match because I didn’t know he is forced to engage on the ground
Good! That’s where fights actually start! Butt scooting is not effective for a street fight! BJJ is a martial art. Let’s put some realism back into the sport.
Love the jiu jitsu breakdowns we need more
I’m sure this whole time Dillion was thinking about how he would be boxing a UA-camr turned boxer 6 years later
DJ, Yes! That would make it a LOT more exciting if they HAD to get takesowns and guard pulling got points deducted.
Amen!!! You should not be allowed more than one minute on your butt.
I think in adcc the first five mins there’s no points and after the first five mins when points start he can’t pull guard or he’ll get a negative so if he doesn’t get up he can stay on the ground
Yep!
I was hoping someone had made this comment. Yes exactly.
I’m such a dumb shit I’ve been watching clips from this channel all week and only just clocked that this is THE Mighty Mouse lmaoo
lol welcome
Demetrious "my personal opinion" Johnson
Sick channel keep up the work DJ as always
thanks man we cooking
Great Video DJ, I would have paid a lot of money to see you fight Davison Figuredo and all the other UFC Flyweights to show the world why you are the G.O.A.T
I agree with DJ. Competitors in BJJ should stand to face off.
I think ADCC rules are a bit different, like points were not in play yet when he got the sweep, and if you take down and they turtle you don’t get points you have to break them down. Correct me if I’m wrong.
You're right, points don't start until later which is why Gordon was pulling guard knowing Dillon wouldn't get points for the takedown (once points are on you can't pull guard like that iirc). Strong wrestlers (or Dillon in this case) like to stall against a superior jiu jitsu practitioner by constantly NOT doing jiu jitsu until points are on and then land the takedown late in the match and stall with the point advantage for the win. Dillon's jiu jitsu wasn't nearly as good as Gordon's even at this time, which is why he was trying to game the ADCC rule set for the win.
Are you serious? Not do jujitsu? Jujitsu is about defending yourself in a fight. Butt scooting fags end up with their faces kicked to oblivion!!!
Dam, this was in 2017!! Time really flies. Doesn't feel like this was almost 7yrs ago
Brilliant stuff DJ, love your analysis on bjj stuff! Would enjoy more! Plus did you see gordons performance last night he's a beast
Agreed, all fights start on the feet regardless of what art you choose to utilize. No reason you should be on the ground begging your opponent to over extend the whole match. Especially seeing certain organizations penilize the standing fighter for disengaging.
Totally agree with Mighty Mouse , once your opponent gets back up the ref should reset, pulling guard is just boring
Nobody, absolutely nobody: ....
DJ: "....BUTT!"
It's a tie. GR is now way bigger and better in BJJ, so it wouldn't be close now.
i really appreciate your opinions champ! i agree with you. gordon shouldnt be able to pull guard so much without any repercussions. adcc rules usually reflect that now though. 1 pt to opponent if you pull guard in the first half of the match. keep these breakdowns coming,
i would love to see big DJ as a commentator for UFC or ONE when he retires. Blud has taught me so much
DJ do you think they should add a stalling point like they do in wrestling to force more action?
Sweet breakdown MM
ADCC rules
1. Take downs only count when shoulders touch the mat with control
2. No advantages only negative points
3. No points until halfway through the match
4. Guard pulls without contact are negative points, once points are allowed.
youre the man DJ, i just found your channel.
Amazing how huge Gordon Ryan got over the years. For the ones who think Dillion Danis sucks better go watch his world championships in JuJitSu he ls very talented in JuJitsu and would hurt Logan in mma or jujitsu match
I agree with everything. Pulling guard with a connection is valid. Butt scooting for too long gives too much distance and you'd have to endure a lot of kicks to close distance a lot of the time in any sort of real encounter. BJJ can't get too far away from practical roots.
Exactly!!! Put realism back into BJJ!!!!!!
The Goat!!
lets go Dj love all these videos
Goat 🐐
Couple quick ADCC rules, thats important to the video
first 5 minutes, no points
next 5 minutes, points active, negative point for guard pulls (although if your already sitting you can remain seated, if you stand up you'd then get a negative for a pull. to secure passing points you have to get both there shoulders on the mat. is the person passing disengages and runs you can get a negative
Over time 5 minutes , points, no guards.
LOVE YOUR WORK MM
There’s one move iv not seen anywhere here on the internet or in any world class training camp,it’s technical name is called ,
“ THE TYPEWRITER”
Now pull gaurd get into a dominant position by sitting on there chest ,pin there arms under your knees ,and viciously poke there chest with your fingers ,followed with a quick slap to the face.Repeat again N again .
“THE TYPEWRITER” it’s a
“NOVELTY MOVE”I know I know 🙈
Loved it!
Seeing GR this small is crazy
Love the content DJ! You're really good 👍 one of the bests ever !! ❤
That was one hell of a battle for nutrition
9:02
“It’s a battle of nutrition.” -MMA Goat
Looks like so much fun, I miss competing
09:02 "It's like a battle of nutrition" What is this, Master Chef? 😂
LETSGO MIGHTYMOUSE AGAIN
Love DJs breakdown
I miss the street beef reactions 😢
For true martial artists listening to dis breakdowns are music 🎵
Awww it’s baby Gordon before the cycles. How cute lol
I prefer watching no-gi just because it's more realistic to real life situations since you don't have a lapel or sleeve that's unrealistically strong to control posture in. Great breakdown.
Most normal clothes people wear are favorable for grappling as opposed to none. Not sure if you've mingled much but a good ol t shirt or button down and someone wearing jeans ain't much different from a gi
@@shad3128 If you think regular shirts are anything like a gi you have no idea what you're talking about. If you put a quarter of the power you can grip a gi lapel it would rip. Just stop.
Great explanation, thanks for making it understandable for noobs.
ur welcome I want to do a ibjjf point system to help you guys but worried about the viewership
@@Mighty15x I'd be viewing it for sure. I've never tried BJJ on any level but you have me very interested in it.
Love this type of content
Competition really strips martial arts of a lot of it's effectiveness. That would never work in a real fight, imagine Gordon in pride, sitting down and scooting toward someone like cro cop.
Tournament bbj works in bbj tournaments, under BJJ rules. It's very important to learn the true form of what ever martial art you learn.
Taekwondo would help you on the street more than this.
@@Ishbikes agreed, this style anyway. You will die if you sit down and butt scoot at someone in a street fight
I love these !
Gordon before the juice. Bro went from looking like he smell like bologna to a street fighter character.
Resetting them on the feet after Gordon just got 411 with the off leg is wild
Back when gordon was natty?!
Danis was really good! I wonder how much danis trains bjj these days and where seeing as Marcelo Garcia banned him.
DJ you the man my dude!
This was a thousand years ago. Gordan is literally a completely different competitor now.
So? This is a breakdown of Danis’ BJJ skills.
Yeah he’s a sted head
Props to Gordon he’s definitely amazing at his craft and a master. But imagine fighting someone like that. On your ass. You’re one soccer kick to the face away from a rude awakening
He would submit you before even getting on his ass
I vote for DJ's rules. I pretty much stay in sub only. Correct me if I'm wrong; if the person in guard stands up, he can stay back and wave his opponent to his feet. I've done it before, but I don't have a ton of experience in tournaments to know how it works across the board.
I think they dont have to come to the feet
@@Mighty15x The Man himself!!
@@Mighty15x You could disengage and call people back to the feet in early ADCCs but by 2017 it was no longer allowed.
Disagree with your opinion on pulling guard. I think the hesitation to pull should come naturally - guard passing technique must evolve to a state where it's much stronger than the current leg lock, sweep, or wrestle up strategy. BJJ guys use stand up to stall, and forcing them to stand would make this worse alongside slowing down open guard development
i can see your view point but that why you start forcing them to shoot, thats what they do in wrestling. and in judo i am told you can’t not straighten you arms that is called stalling and you would be dq
Pulling guard is not realistic in a street fight and BJJ is a reality based fighting system.
@@nathanbedfordforrest9546Gracie BJJ is reality based, most of the other schools and systems are sport focused.
@richiemueller2158 Sounds like a skill issue. Good luck with your trainings.
@@MesoCarib Lol what? If anything the skill issue is when the guy on top cant pass guard. Pulling guard shouldn't be a good strategy but it is...
Nice DJ
You’ve got to look into the ruleset of these different tournaments if you going to comment on scoring sequences. This is ADCC, therefore, for the first 5 minutes there’s no scoring, period. It encourages submissions. Points are only enacted in the final five minutes.
As someone not in BJJ I feel like it should be a single point for forcing guard. I can definitely see why people wouldn’t want to watch someone try and break guard perpetually. You should be penalized for not being in control of the round. Sure there would be more points but it would make it so much more fun to watch.