@@sherlockbonez, those chaps would be the 1%ers for sure.... The rest of the herd just wants All the Toys, and the Power to Deploy them on The People.....
This is why capitalism exists, so that companies like that eventually go bankrupt and new talent and energy can take its place. Unfortunately the government gets into a habit of bailing people out and stimulating the economy so that terrible business ideas and decisions and so on can survive for longer.
In the late 1960's LAPD dumped all their Colt Monitors and Thompsons in the ocean when they upgraded to M16's. so if you want a corroded Colt Monitor there are a few dozen at the bottom of LA harbor.
Bonny and Clyde were very fond of the BAR. Bonny had the stock shortened and was considered very good with it, in spite of being very small. They were not the only bandits using the BAR in the thirties. The price must have displeased a lot of police.
Macnutz420 Clyde cut their BARs down himself. He also shortened the butt stocks and rigged a shoulder sling so it hung at his side under his over coat..... He called it his whippet gun and they preferred them to the Tommy because the 45acp bounced off of cars but the 30-06 went clean through and out the other side....
Glen Nelson B & C stole their BAR's from National Guard Armories along with 1911's and grenades and a ton of ammunition. And being a competent gunsmith in his own right, Clyde modified their BAR'S into his "whip-it" gun for their gang which made the very large military weapons much more usable for a small person and anyone shooting from a car.
Clyde also custom designed, cut and hand welded two magazines together to form 40 shot mags which they used to lethal effect. After one particularly bloody robbery they counted more than 1,000 spent thirty odd six rounds and a dozen empty custom made 40 round mags left behind. The gang was essentially an assault force that took over the town. Local law enforcement had zero chance against them.
At age 17, in Nov. 1955, still a H.S. Senior, I enlisted in the inactive WA State NG. At 130 lb.s, 5'5", in an infantry unit, I qualified as a BAR Man, mostly firing from prone, on the bi pod. Strange, that this is the 1st time I ever heard of the Colt Moniter. I'm greatly amazed at the recoil reduction on the 4 pounds lighter LE BAR of 1931 & the obvious aid the added pistol grip provides. Actually, a later model BAR, from WWII development for better anti aircraft BAR use, had a different Safe/Fire selector. Positions were SAFE, or FIRE, with the FIRE adjustable from Slow Fire to Fast Fire. This the BAR I trained on. Adjusted to Slow, with a trained quick release of the trigger finger, a single round could be fired, or 2 or 3 round bursts were simple to let off. As for shoulder fire, at my light weight, anything over a 2 round burst would waste ammo. Full Auto Fire is great for the movies, but Semi or Burst Fire is for reality! Of course, F/A sustained fire is good against vehicles at closer ranges. I will be sharing this great article, for retired military & LE friends, TY!
@@sirrivet9557 being used by criminals isn't exactly a high bar to conquer, hell I can almost guarantee that there's probably crimes committed using guns as obscure as Swiss Schmidt Rubens from the late '80s... The 1880s In fact I already found one and while it doesn't specify it being a 1889 Swiss Schmidt Rubin it does specifically specify that it is a Swiss Schmidt Rubin: the ballistic expertise disposed on ongoing investigation added a value to the file, the fact that all the ammunition elements were fired with the same weapon, the ammunition elements are most likely of Swiss origin, but also more important was the conclusion that the high probability that the firearm used for committing the crime is originally Swiss, a Schmidt-Rubin carbine type, or ZfK55 Sniper Rifle, BLEIKER, Swiss Stgw.57, Sauer model S205Phantom. proceedings.univ-danubius.ro/index.php/eirp/article/download/2062/2112
Interesting to see the effectiveness of the Cutts compensator here - the barrel seems to be going DOWN with each shot rather than rising as is typical, whether in semi- or full-auto!
They say to the BARtender, "why is this thing so heavy?" "Well, there's a special shell game we play with this BAR, kindly step to the end of the BAR and I'll demonstrate"
One of the elements that made the Tommy Gun so effective for the FBI was their use of zinc bullets. They were much harder than regular rounds and could chew up vehicles. This is a unique weapon.
I noticed the same thing and this was exactly the comment I was looking for :P I reason that as long as the deformation stays within the elasticity region and the wobble has stopped before the next shot, I imagine that it shouldn't affect the accuracy even after much usage.just to state my credentials, I am not an experienced gunman but I have education in metallurgy and mechanics
Tha cuts compensator might be the direct reason. From the looks of it all the gas is htrown upwards and the barrel end is bent downword after each shot.
I think the same. Compensator is doing it´s job to pushing down the gun. If you see an AK-47 slowmo that gun is twisting like crazy and wobeling around all time.
The slow motion from the front was amazing. You could see how the concussion was bending the image as it hit the camera. At first I thought the entire gun was bending then realized it was just the concussion traveling through the air. Awesome work.
Seems to be remarkably controllable for a 30-06 gun. The Cutts compensator seems to work well. Same story as the FG 42: you really need an effective muzzle brake to make such a relatively light-weight gun, firing full power rifle cartridges, relatively controllable. The price is massive muzzle blast/concussion.
Ian, I really can't thank you enough for all that you( do)(edit). All of these guns would still be forgotten if not for you. You, with the help of the suppliers of the guns, are responsible for bringing these weapon back to light, and responsible for proving much needed information on them. You, Sir (at this point, you should probably be knighted), are truly a personification of the desires I have combined with the resources I have not access to. You seem to be the impossible odds meeting the sheer willpower of a true historian and academic, and are coming out ahead.
The Monitor was one of the three long guns used in Baby Face Nelson 's last gunfight (by the bad guys). Nelson 's partner, John Chase used the Monitor when confronted by the FBI. Nelson used a Tommy gun which kept malfunctioning so he dropped it and used a Winchester 1907 .351 rifle modified by Hyman Lebman. Nelson used the 1907 to kill two special agents and died later of his injuries. Forgotten Weapon dudes could you do one on the 1907? I love your channel.
I agree, and having seen more than a few slow motion fire vids from Ian and others I must say this one goes quite a bit more wibbley wobbley than most, making it worth watching a few times. Watching the magazine flex was a new one for me.
It seems odd than Ian really didn't credit the Cutt's compensator for taming the recoil of the BAR. I'm guessing it's a bigger factor than the pistol grip. The muzzle seems to actually depress when fired.
I'll bet the B.A.R would quickly become cthulus favorite gun as he would like spent hours shooting it plus that recoil from the city's compensator would have no effect on him and could actually one hand shoot it
The first time I heard of this thing was in "The Highwaymen" last year. I had no idea what Kevin Costner was referring to when he asked for "That Colt Monitor" and was handed a BAR-type thing.
USS Monitor all the way. A bit heavier than both Asus or Colt, but 11" caliber is all-time favourite for all home defence needs. If you live next to large enough body of water that is...
Damn, I did not know Jim had passed. I bought my first .45 1911 from him. He also let me shoot my first machine gun, and Swedish K. He worked for years at Bob indoor shooting range in Salsbury Massachusetts
It's interesting seeing how when the bolt closes it actually pushes the rifle forward a little. Also really neat how effective the compensator is, looks like it is actually pushing the rifle down.
That compensator really is awesome at pushing the barrel down. I'd never believe a full auto rifle in a full power rifle caliber fired from the shoulder would have no to negative muzzle rise unless I saw it.
Here in Argentina our Policía Federal had in service this beautiful gun, but in 7,65mm x 54 caliber ( the same that from our Mauser, btw...) Many thanks for this video and your amazing job, Ian. Kind regards..!
Just when he mentioned the "Police Supply Company" towards the end of the video with regards to the Remington Model 8...I've come to realize Ian is a true firearm guru---(guru in every sense of the word) Ian knows more about guns than I do, more it seems than I could hope to know. That tid-bit of info meant so much, who else in the firearms related community has some obscure add from the Peace Officer Equipment Company of St. Joseph, MO from 80+ years ago at the tip of his/her tongue. This man is one of the very best of our time. Does he need a mother for his children?
When you're shooting, it looks like the barrel is dipping *down* every time you pull the trigger, especially in semi auto. It's amazing that the Cutts is *THAT* effective.
Haven't complimented many lately on UA-cam but you certainly deserve it. Articulate delivery cuss word free a rarity lately and just great knowledge of the worlds many fascinating firearms. Thank you sir.
The BAR has a recoil reduction system of "cups and bowls" which is part of why it is a "softer" shoot that expected. In the Marines it was a favorite weapon to use.
It’s amazing to think that when these first came out you could order them through a catalog and they would be shipped to your front door. It’s sad to see how far we’ve fallen from that path.
@ Back then, people didn't want to kill themselves so much. Think about it. If you got basic education, you could get a job. If you got a job, you could afford a house and a wife and children AND a car. I have education, but no job, no house, wife, children or car. Heck, I don't even have access to medical treatment. You'd think it's due to lack of want, but believe me I tried. I said a bad thing in school, I slipped in dirt, and now I need leg braces, two layers of socks and military boots just to walk. Shuffle, more like. Half my elementary school teachers still live with their parents. If a square job can't get you a square pay, things have gone to bust. If it cheers you up, the government will probably start handing out cheap opioids to calm the masses/thin the herd in the near future. The only way those fuckers won't end up on the chopping block is if they provide means for us to euthanize ourselves peacefully. This thing we call a human civilization, it just buckled and it's only a matter of time before those with a less keen senses will start feeling the smell of rot. Sorry for the off topic. I wish I had a Colt Monitor, even if they're a symbol of oppression and government overreach. Next time I'm time machine adjacent, I'll make sure to pick one up.
@Viper the Avali Better ages, I guess. To be entirely honest, it's much worse than you could imagine... Know that saying "history is a commonly agreed upon set of lies"? The cities buried just beneath ours would indicate that the past was, generally speaking, a lot better and more technologically advanced than ours.
Great video Ian, I always found this model visually intriguing even as a kid. Maybe I saw one in a movie or something. Sadly I Live in Ireland so there's little chance of firing off a few rounds from one of these. Our gun laws are some of the most strict in the world.. Keep the videos coming, you really break down the mechanics with great detail.
The main problem I always had with the BAR is the fire rate. It's hard to control, the 20 round magazines don't last very long, and it runs really hot really quick. In semi-auto, not a problem, and it really helps to have a pistol grip, but other than that, a damned fine rife. Just burns up ammo about twice too fast.
Such a cool rifle, it's what the BAR could have been. I loved that this rifle was in Fallout New Vegas, even if it had some features of the WWII BAR as well.
This is one of the best videos I've seen you make. The historical backgrounds are always top notch, but on this one the slow-motion shots are awesome. Thanks so much for sharing.
The comment about the military issue WW2 BAR being a weapon the US won the war in spite of, rather than because of, was not shared by by my Dad, combat Marine, USMC 4th Division. He fought at Tinian, Saipan, Roi-Namur, And Iwo Jima. Two Purple Hearts. That weapon was the SAW of its day. When someone carrying one of those went down, according to Dad, every effort was made to get to it, and get it back. It had to be cared for, and had all the faults you talked about. But in WW2, cleaning and caring for a Weapon was business as usual. They could (at least the Marines) field strip and clean any weapon in their inventory, blind folded. So keeping a BAR in operating order was no particular burden. I love the stuff you do on your channel, but I can assure you, the BAR was a well loved weapon in the Pacific Theater at least. There aren’t many of those guys left, sadly, but if you can find any, I’m sure they would echo my Dad’s feelings. It was more valued than a Thompson, except for urban areas, which the Marines in the 4th didn’t see much.
You know you have a quality compensator/muzzle break when it can completely tame the recoil of such a powerful cartridge like the 30-.06 to the point that it actually drives the muzzle downward during automatic fire.
To think that the FBI in 1931 had a select fire battle rifle, honestly could envision a world where this version of the gun gets developed into the main service rifle instead of the Garrand.
This is so cool! I've seen pictures of this at a rifle match in the mid 50's, and I had thought that it was some custom sporter rifle, not an actual model.
he got to buy both a BAR and a monitor. greedy bastard. loved the scene where he fired it the first time and his partner is so shocked he falls to the ground and then says " you got one of those for me?"
I heard a story from a CHP officer in 2012 although I have no way to confirm it, that they had a dozen or so of these in their armory along with hundreds of 30s era firearms (Thompsons, Remington Mod. 8s, Winchester 1897s) that they acquired when the agency was first formed along with newer stuff like M2 carbines, M14s etc. and weird stuff like original 70s/80s transferable AUGs and UZIs. I say "had" because at that time, or so I'm told, they were told to rotate it. IE it was all going into a shredder so they could justify buying new M4s and such. This cop shook his head thinking about the Monitor in particular since it caught his eye. He thought it was some batch of original bespoke custom guns special ordered by the CHP. He didn't know the name, but by the description of the vented compensator and pistol grip I know he was talking about it. It's shameful, but of course being California they'd never turn anything over to a museum let alone sell a gun to civilians so it's a plausible enough story.
Kudos to Ian for keeping it clean, I'm sure 99% of people after shooting that full auto would say FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Is the safety something that was changed from the original WW1 guise to this variant? In the 1918 video you mentioned that the detent (or button) in path of the selector was designed so that it would be easy to move the selector from safe to fire but not the other way around. However on this example the detent seems to also prevents the user going from safe to fire without deliberately depressing the detent first.
It's insane watching the slow mo, with the whole gun shaking and bending like crazy. Such an awesome gun, the BAR is one of those guns that i have to shoot before i die.
Michael G A Problem with cars like that if you get into a high speed collision you're most certainly fucked. Cars that solid will transfer more of the deadly force of impact into it's occupants. That's why modern cars crumple on impact. Automobile accidents were waaay more fatal back then but hey at least you're bulletproof when the pigs start shooting, unless they're using a .357 magnum....
usaid alfatih CRUSHING CAUSES DEATH. "TRANSFER OF ENERGY" CAUSES WHIPLASH/CONCUSSIONS. People back then didn't wear seat belts, and drove drunk CONSTANTLY. That's why death rates for accidents were higher.
Michael G the steel WAS NOT stronger, it was just THICKER, because the stamping technology was inferior. Those doors wouldn't stand up to 9mm Luger. WW1, nor modern day.
Very cool! Seems that the weight and comp chill out recoil. .30-06 full auto is pretty crazy to think about. You need double ear pro I'd bet? Awesome vid Ian!
Always liked the Monitor from Colt! A few years ago, Colt put out a special presentation model Monitor with a nice hard leather case and accessories/compartments. If I recall, they were around $4-5,000. All strictly Semi-auto versions of course, sad, but I still want one! They show up on Gunbroker from time to time. Real Range Eye Candy if you don’t happen to have Pamela Anderson with you.
That looks ridiculously visceral to shoot. If only I had 72K to get one of those lol. Great presentation though, hats off to you Ian! Keep up the good stuff!
Can you imagine that? State of the art military technology, so advanced in fact the military doesn't want to deploy it in fear of the enemies using it, and within a couple years it was being produced for private citizens. If only the second ammendment was this strong today.
I saw a picture of one of these years ago. I've always thought it would have been neat to see one scaled down to work with the .276 Pedersen cartridge we flirted with adopting in the 1930s. With the lighter cartridge, it probably would have been possible to shave the weight down to around 10lbs and have a real, practical assault rifle.
What is probably causing your complaint of the concussion is that you are shooting in an enclosed pit (at least 2 sides are visible). If you were to shoot it in an open area where the concussion would not rebound off the pit walls, it might not be quite so bad. Love all your video's and wish I could shoot some of those weapons along side you. Keep it up.
I thought the same thing, but really when would this, be used in the c open? It is intended for raids and ambushes. In each case I am sure the agent would do his best to use cover.
It's actually really open out back there where he's shooting. I think there are only two wooden walls there now to catch brass and provide a good backdrop because behind that is a bunch of trucks and stuff
Ian has fired several rifles and pistols in that same pit. He's not complained about any other weapon being painfully loud. Maybe it's because this rifle is just fucking loud? I also suspect Ian knows what the hell he's talking about.
Ironically, Clyde Barrow himself had a couple of these, as did the pose that eventually put paid to Bonny & Clyde - and when you see the level of destruction on Clydes car (very gruesome photos) you can see why the Monitor was developed. Those big Ford's were really built!!! :D
Brings a whole new meaning to "being monitored by the FBI"
Molo900
"You're being monitored"
**Monitoring intensifies**
@@johnt4060 So Bonnie & Clyde walked into a BAR Fire...or was it BAR Fire walked into Bonnie & Clyde?
I knew id see one of these comments in the comment area.
Being monitored by nice and hot .30-06 projectiles
At a cyclic rate of fire of 500 rounds per minute. Or 8.3 - .30-06 rounds per second.
The scene in The Highwaymen where Hamer(Costner) walks into a gun shop and buys one off the rack (along with a BAR and a Thompson) made me tear up.
Also the scene where he goes full auto and Woody Harrelson runs for cover.
Before the NFA of '34, you could do just that.
I wonder who he sent the bill too. And he probably made that gun store owner's year.
@@johnharris6655to the tax payers im sure. I have no issue funding good cops that need toys, just saying.
@@sherlockbonez, those chaps would be the 1%ers for sure.... The rest of the herd just wants All the Toys, and the Power to Deploy them on The People.....
“That’s a weird looking thompson baby”
“Don’t worry, our car is basically bulletproof to their weapons”
DARK lol
This is. a super great looking gun!
It looks like a silencer. Lol
And guess what? Bonnie was right.
.30/06 proof..not😢
Colt. What a incredible tale of fall from grace. The 1911, snake guns, M16, AR15, and so many more... now defunct due to horrid mis-management.
Lets hope CZ makes them good again.
@@atfyoutubedivision955 Lol
Lmao
CZ proceeds to allow Colt to continue into irrelevance.
This is why capitalism exists, so that companies like that eventually go bankrupt and new talent and energy can take its place. Unfortunately the government gets into a habit of bailing people out and stimulating the economy so that terrible business ideas and decisions and so on can survive for longer.
Remington says hold my beer.
Single Action Army gets no respect? Lol
In the late 1960's LAPD dumped all their Colt Monitors and Thompsons in the ocean when they upgraded to M16's. so if you want a corroded Colt Monitor there are a few dozen at the bottom of LA harbor.
I will start a business of collecting them. On day you will hear of the legendary BAR divers of L.A.
California has always been on that bullshit.
Unfortunately, those would be illegal to own since they're not registered. Plus, decades of salt water exposure probably wasn't good for the guns.
They were probably fished out by off-duty cops with scuba gear the following weekend.
Why did they dump them in the ocean!!!? D:
Bonnie & Clyde's death car illustrates what happens when a Ford meets a Monitor.
The 'Komodo Dragon" of monitors!
Bonnie and Clyde were pretty fond of BARs themselves. Not a great era to be an innocent bystander I'm guessing.
@@FranzKafkaRockOpera not innocent bystander but pretty much a shit time to be a cop.
The Warrens from Topeka Ks. Got thier car back and drove it home.
Bonny and Clyde were very fond of the BAR. Bonny had the stock shortened and was considered very good with it, in spite of being very small.
They were not the only bandits using the BAR in the thirties.
The price must have displeased a lot of police.
Macnutz420
Clyde cut their BARs down himself.
He also shortened the butt stocks and rigged a shoulder sling so it hung at his side under his over coat.....
He called it his whippet gun and they preferred them to the Tommy because the 45acp bounced off of cars but the 30-06 went clean through and out the other side....
Baby Face Nelson had this gun
Glen Nelson
B & C stole their BAR's from National Guard Armories along with 1911's and grenades and a ton of ammunition. And being a competent gunsmith in his own right, Clyde modified their BAR'S into his "whip-it" gun for their gang which made the very large military weapons much more usable for a small person and anyone shooting from a car.
Clyde also custom designed, cut and hand welded two magazines together to form 40 shot mags which they used to lethal effect. After one particularly bloody robbery they counted more than 1,000 spent thirty odd six rounds and a dozen empty custom made 40 round mags left behind.
The gang was essentially an assault force that took over the town. Local law enforcement had zero chance against them.
@@keith9547 Ought. The word you're look for is ought. Thirty ought six. Or, y'know, just .30-06. It's easier to remember.
And every moose in Maine once more heard the roar of that ancient enemy, the .30-06.
my grampa has always used a .300WinMag for moose,those poor things
300 weatherby...
"The sound of man made thunder roars on before us"
Let's use 300 wby, 300 RUM, 30-378, 300 warbird
30-06 .... even God loves it 👍😁
Just wanna say thanks to Ian for putting together these excellent videos. We all really appreciate the effort you put into researching these guns.
I agree, Thank you Ian!
GreyWolf TV Amen!
Nice comment Wolf
Suck up you sound like a teachers pet
Nah being appreciative is actually awesome so maybe you should reconsider your boring ass attitude bro
Watching that barrel flex in the slo-mo was pretty amazing.
I wonder about metal fatigue from all that flexing.
It's a Car! (Colt Automatic Rifle)
There is also the WAR (Winchester Automatic Rifle).
It will always be the Mormon Browning Automatic Rifle.
bar's and car's should never be mixed
@@PEZ1514 I never drink & drive. I drink THEN drive.
Don't wanna get hit by a CAR
At age 17, in Nov. 1955, still a H.S. Senior, I enlisted in the inactive WA State NG.
At 130 lb.s, 5'5", in an infantry unit, I qualified as a BAR Man, mostly firing from
prone, on the bi pod. Strange, that this is the 1st time I ever heard of the Colt
Moniter. I'm greatly amazed at the recoil reduction on the 4 pounds lighter LE
BAR of 1931 & the obvious aid the added pistol grip provides. Actually, a later
model BAR, from WWII development for better anti aircraft BAR use, had a
different Safe/Fire selector. Positions were SAFE, or FIRE, with the FIRE
adjustable from Slow Fire to Fast Fire. This the BAR I trained on. Adjusted
to Slow, with a trained quick release of the trigger finger, a single round
could be fired, or 2 or 3 round bursts were simple to let off. As for shoulder
fire, at my light weight, anything over a 2 round burst would waste ammo.
Full Auto Fire is great for the movies, but Semi or Burst Fire is for reality!
Of course, F/A sustained fire is good against vehicles at closer ranges.
I will be sharing this great article, for retired military & LE friends, TY!
This ain't a BAR...its a SPEAKEASY
I see what you did there.
@Alan Hardcastle the Thompson was used by criminals a lot more than the BAR was.
sam8404 the bar was still used though, primarily because it was better at penetrating cars than the Thompson.
@@sirrivet9557 being used by criminals isn't exactly a high bar to conquer, hell I can almost guarantee that there's probably crimes committed using guns as obscure as Swiss Schmidt Rubens from the late '80s...
The 1880s
In fact I already found one and while it doesn't specify it being a 1889 Swiss Schmidt Rubin it does specifically specify that it is a Swiss Schmidt Rubin:
the ballistic expertise disposed on ongoing investigation added a value to the file, the fact that
all the ammunition elements were fired with the same weapon, the ammunition elements are most
likely of Swiss origin, but also more important was the conclusion that the high probability that the
firearm used for committing the crime is originally Swiss, a Schmidt-Rubin carbine type, or ZfK55
Sniper Rifle, BLEIKER, Swiss Stgw.57, Sauer model S205Phantom.
proceedings.univ-danubius.ro/index.php/eirp/article/download/2062/2112
I don’t think you’d SPEAKEASY with one of these in your face!
Interesting to see the effectiveness of the Cutts compensator here - the barrel seems to be going DOWN with each shot rather than rising as is typical, whether in semi- or full-auto!
So these three bootleggers walk into a BAR...
They say to the BARtender, "why is this thing so heavy?"
"Well, there's a special shell game we play with this BAR, kindly step to the end of the BAR and I'll demonstrate"
Farenheit 351 Sry but no, not remotely funny. Half a point for effort.
And 20 rounds later they couldn't keep themselves on their feet.
Don't you mean they were DEAD drunk?
....I'll see myself out.
They had a Garand time....Shots were free...
One of the elements that made the Tommy Gun so effective for the FBI was their use of zinc bullets. They were much harder than regular rounds and could chew up vehicles. This is a unique weapon.
interesting to watch the barrel flex in slow motion, curious if the full size BAR had the same flex
bvhnightmare Remember, this version had a lighter barrel than the military version
I noticed the same thing and this was exactly the comment I was looking for :P I reason that as long as the deformation stays within the elasticity region and the wobble has stopped before the next shot, I imagine that it shouldn't affect the accuracy even after much usage.just to state my credentials, I am not an experienced gunman but I have education in metallurgy and mechanics
Seems quite common when you see a few slowmo shots of various weapons. I was amazed the first time I saw it.
Tha cuts compensator might be the direct reason. From the looks of it all the gas is htrown upwards and the barrel end is bent downword after each shot.
I think the same. Compensator is doing it´s job to pushing down the gun. If you see an AK-47 slowmo that gun is twisting like crazy and wobeling around all time.
The FBI doesn’t need your location, you are being monitored. This is a BAR, we serve lead.
The slow motion from the front was amazing. You could see how the concussion was bending the image as it hit the camera. At first I thought the entire gun was bending then realized it was just the concussion traveling through the air. Awesome work.
@@justforever96 Yeah; wrote this comment before I knew what was actually happening. Appreciate the heads up though.
Seems to be remarkably controllable for a 30-06 gun. The Cutts compensator seems to work well. Same story as the FG 42: you really need an effective muzzle brake to make such a relatively light-weight gun, firing full power rifle cartridges, relatively controllable. The price is massive muzzle blast/concussion.
One thing that shocked me when firing the BAR for the first time was how controllable it was compared to the m16a1
Weight is a great way to reduce recoil lol
Ian, I really can't thank you enough for all that you( do)(edit). All of these guns would still be forgotten if not for you. You, with the help of the suppliers of the guns, are responsible for bringing these weapon back to light, and responsible for proving much needed information on them. You, Sir (at this point, you should probably be knighted), are truly a personification of the desires I have combined with the resources I have not access to. You seem to be the impossible odds meeting the sheer willpower of a true historian and academic, and are coming out ahead.
Thompson wont shoot through car doors...
30-06 "challenge accepted"
One thing is sure. The Cutt's compensator is very effective. Literally it is visible, how it pushes the barrel down when shooting.
The Monitor was one of the three long guns used in Baby Face Nelson 's last gunfight (by the bad guys). Nelson 's partner, John Chase used the Monitor when confronted by the FBI. Nelson used a Tommy gun which kept malfunctioning so he dropped it and used a Winchester 1907 .351 rifle modified by Hyman Lebman. Nelson used the 1907 to kill two special agents and died later of his injuries. Forgotten Weapon dudes could you do one on the 1907? I love your channel.
That shortened 1907 he used is literally the rifle shown when you Google the 351. Extended mag, shortened barrel
You never realise until you watch them in slow motion just how much a barrel will flex when firing.
I agree, and having seen more than a few slow motion fire vids from Ian and others I must say this one goes quite a bit more wibbley wobbley than most, making it worth watching a few times. Watching the magazine flex was a new one for me.
MrSqu1nty I think some of it might be distortion from the concussion wave, but that compensator’s wagging like a dog with a bone!.
When you learned that the FBI are playing nice today by using 9mm and 5.56
Dude 5.56 is nasty, don't underestimate it
Steve harvyeet
Any bullet is nasty. Except *maybe* .22 or other smaller calibers.
Best Gore is a good example.
Ferocious Battle
I can agree.
22lr is nasty as hell. Idk what you guys are talkung about. Any round is nasty. As long as it shoots, it kills. Smh
Nikolai Belinski - Raiden
But how fast is .22lr?
It seems odd than Ian really didn't credit the Cutt's compensator for taming the recoil of the BAR. I'm guessing it's a bigger factor than the pistol grip. The muzzle seems to actually depress when fired.
@chris younts He don't like heavy weapons, maybe that's why.
@chris younts I know but Ian dosen't seem to like heavy weapons with heavy recoil
when you have to deal with cultists worshiping eldritch gods and things that should not be, the Colt Monitor is the rifle to have
I live near a devil worship site. Gimme.
Welcome to Call of Cthulhu, bitches!
I'll bet the B.A.R would quickly become cthulus favorite gun as he would like spent hours shooting it plus that recoil from the city's compensator would have no effect on him and could actually one hand shoot it
@@omartorres5688 hag a TPK once, a deep one hybrid with a BAR wiped out the entire party. Good times!
@@kevingooley9628 with the military B.A.R?
The first time I heard of this thing was in "The Highwaymen" last year. I had no idea what Kevin Costner was referring to when he asked for "That Colt Monitor" and was handed a BAR-type thing.
I love the slo-mo, the amount of flex in the barrel is amazing.
The action of the bolt is rather amazing as well...., and well said...
I prefer the Asus Monitor tbh, better resolution
I have a 144hz gaming monitor, talk about a smooth experience.
No. Stop.
"resolution" "144hz" ... LOL.. yeah, but is it 10-bit .. or a piece of crap?
144fps? This has 600rpm.
Overheats easily though
USS Monitor all the way. A bit heavier than both Asus or Colt, but 11" caliber is all-time favourite for all home defence needs.
If you live next to large enough body of water that is...
Damn, I did not know Jim had passed. I bought my first .45 1911 from him. He also let me shoot my first machine gun, and Swedish K. He worked for years at Bob indoor shooting range in Salsbury Massachusetts
It's interesting seeing how when the bolt closes it actually pushes the rifle forward a little. Also really neat how effective the compensator is, looks like it is actually pushing the rifle down.
Makes you feel like a depression Era lawman going after Bonnie and Clyde.
Before it makes your ears bleed off, of course xD
This is quite the handsome looking iteration on the weapon
That compensator really is awesome at pushing the barrel down. I'd never believe a full auto rifle in a full power rifle caliber fired from the shoulder would have no to negative muzzle rise unless I saw it.
Here in Argentina our Policía Federal had in service this beautiful gun, but in 7,65mm x 54 caliber ( the same that from our Mauser, btw...)
Many thanks for this video and your amazing job, Ian.
Kind regards..!
As they are no known out of USA contract for the monitor you're maybe speaking of R75 ?
Just when he mentioned the "Police Supply Company" towards the end of the video with regards to the Remington Model 8...I've come to realize Ian is a true firearm guru---(guru in every sense of the word) Ian knows more about guns than I do, more it seems than I could hope to know. That tid-bit of info meant so much, who else in the firearms related community has some obscure add from the Peace Officer Equipment Company of St. Joseph, MO from 80+ years ago at the tip of his/her tongue. This man is one of the very best of our time.
Does he need a mother for his children?
When you're shooting, it looks like the barrel is dipping *down* every time you pull the trigger, especially in semi auto. It's amazing that the Cutts is *THAT* effective.
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Haven't complimented many lately on UA-cam but you certainly deserve it. Articulate delivery cuss word free a rarity lately and just great knowledge of the worlds many fascinating firearms. Thank you sir.
Thanks Ian for showing that rare piece of history.
High speed camera footage of the recoil impulse traveling the length of the rifle is amazing.
The BAR has a recoil reduction system of "cups and bowls" which is part of why it is a "softer" shoot that expected. In the Marines it was a favorite weapon to use.
Crazy watching the whole Barrel flex. And bend end from end. Never thought I’d see a barrel do this. Stunning
another great video Ian looked a cool weapon to have a blast with and seeing that barrel flecks was a bit of a shock
keep the videos coming bud 👍🇬🇧
Probably the best demonstration of barrel harmonic distortion, and how a firearm contorts under fire.
Audio is limited to the left-ear only during the shooting clip
Yep, otherwise great video :)
left-handed strikes again
Maybe he wanted to simulate the concussion he talks about.
And very quiet during the shooting clip, too.
Thankfully, because my right ear headphone isn't working XD
Its so interesting to see the way recoil makes the entire gun flex on every shot in slow mo!
It’s amazing to think that when these first came out you could order them through a catalog and they would be shipped to your front door. It’s sad to see how far we’ve fallen from that path.
@ Back then, people didn't want to kill themselves so much.
Think about it. If you got basic education, you could get a job. If you got a job, you could afford a house and a wife and children AND a car.
I have education, but no job, no house, wife, children or car. Heck, I don't even have access to medical treatment. You'd think it's due to lack of want, but believe me I tried. I said a bad thing in school, I slipped in dirt, and now I need leg braces, two layers of socks and military boots just to walk. Shuffle, more like.
Half my elementary school teachers still live with their parents.
If a square job can't get you a square pay, things have gone to bust.
If it cheers you up, the government will probably start handing out cheap opioids to calm the masses/thin the herd in the near future. The only way those fuckers won't end up on the chopping block is if they provide means for us to euthanize ourselves peacefully.
This thing we call a human civilization, it just buckled and it's only a matter of time before those with a less keen senses will start feeling the smell of rot.
Sorry for the off topic.
I wish I had a Colt Monitor, even if they're a symbol of oppression and government overreach.
Next time I'm time machine adjacent, I'll make sure to pick one up.
@Viper the Avali Better ages, I guess.
To be entirely honest, it's much worse than you could imagine...
Know that saying "history is a commonly agreed upon set of lies"?
The cities buried just beneath ours would indicate that the past was, generally speaking, a lot better and more technologically advanced than ours.
It's so crazy how the gun flex's with each shot in slow mo. Amazing footage.
Great video Ian,
I always found this model visually intriguing even as a kid. Maybe I saw one in a movie or something. Sadly I Live in Ireland so there's little chance of firing off a few rounds from one of these. Our gun laws are some of the most strict in the world..
Keep the videos coming, you really break down the mechanics with great detail.
Love the slo-mo, that barrel really whips!
"Damn, this is a cool gun."
That's high praise coming from Gun Jesus
Goodness, what a beautiful rifle. I wish people still made all of the rare, exotic, and prototype weapons that you find on this channel.
The main problem I always had with the BAR is the fire rate. It's hard to control, the 20 round magazines don't last very long, and it runs really hot really quick. In semi-auto, not a problem, and it really helps to have a pistol grip, but other than that, a damned fine rife. Just burns up ammo about twice too fast.
Needs a drum magazine of 100 rounds capacity.🤔
@@salguodrolyat2594If you want to carry 100 rounds of 30-06 in a single magazine be my guest.
i would imagine the 7mm mauser version of this was an interesting experience.
another great weapon that almost no one has heard of, great episode sir.
This weapon was featured in the recent Netflix movie “The Highwaymen”.
Came here after the movie. 🇺🇲
Such a cool rifle, it's what the BAR could have been. I loved that this rifle was in Fallout New Vegas, even if it had some features of the WWII BAR as well.
What an amazing gun. Great video as always Ian!
This is one of the best videos I've seen you make. The historical backgrounds are always top notch, but on this one the slow-motion shots are awesome. Thanks so much for sharing.
You know it rules when Ian says, "Damn!."
The comment about the military issue WW2 BAR being a weapon the US won the war in spite of, rather than because of, was not shared by by my Dad, combat Marine, USMC 4th Division. He fought at Tinian, Saipan, Roi-Namur, And Iwo Jima. Two Purple Hearts. That weapon was the SAW of its day. When someone carrying one of those went down, according to Dad, every effort was made to get to it, and get it back. It had to be cared for, and had all the faults you talked about. But in WW2, cleaning and caring for a Weapon was business as usual. They could (at least the Marines) field strip and clean any weapon in their inventory, blind folded. So keeping a BAR in operating order was no particular burden.
I love the stuff you do on your channel, but I can assure you, the BAR was a well loved weapon in the Pacific Theater at least. There aren’t many of those guys left, sadly, but if you can find any, I’m sure they would echo my Dad’s feelings. It was more valued than a Thompson, except for urban areas, which the Marines in the 4th didn’t see much.
My dad was also there, and said the same thing !
You know a compensator is good when the nose dips with each shot.
Loved that slow motion of the gun running. Especially the barrel flexing. Really kool
You know you have a quality compensator/muzzle break when it can completely tame the recoil of such a powerful cartridge like the 30-.06 to the point that it actually drives the muzzle downward during automatic fire.
this is the first time I've ever actually noticed a barrel flex like that. Now I'm going to start looking for that in every slow-mo.
To think that the FBI in 1931 had a select fire battle rifle, honestly could envision a world where this version of the gun gets developed into the main service rifle instead of the Garrand.
I pity the US troops issued this thing...
This gun was awesome in the highwaymen.
"What the hell is that?"
"it's a Colt Monitor Machine Rifle, 30-06. Fires a 20 round volley at 3000 feet per minute"
This is so cool! I've seen pictures of this at a rifle match in the mid 50's, and I had thought that it was some custom sporter rifle, not an actual model.
I'm here because of The Highwaymen
I saw this when it came out, but came back because of that film. I wonder if the makers knew about this due to Ian?
Same
Same here...
he got to buy both a BAR and a monitor.
greedy bastard.
loved the scene where he fired it the first time and his partner is so shocked he falls to the ground and then
says " you got one of those for me?"
Tucker Dale shut up
I heard a story from a CHP officer in 2012 although I have no way to confirm it, that they had a dozen or so of these in their armory along with hundreds of 30s era firearms (Thompsons, Remington Mod. 8s, Winchester 1897s) that they acquired when the agency was first formed along with newer stuff like M2 carbines, M14s etc. and weird stuff like original 70s/80s transferable AUGs and UZIs. I say "had" because at that time, or so I'm told, they were told to rotate it. IE it was all going into a shredder so they could justify buying new M4s and such.
This cop shook his head thinking about the Monitor in particular since it caught his eye. He thought it was some batch of original bespoke custom guns special ordered by the CHP. He didn't know the name, but by the description of the vented compensator and pistol grip I know he was talking about it. It's shameful, but of course being California they'd never turn anything over to a museum let alone sell a gun to civilians so it's a plausible enough story.
The barrel flex is crazy. I don't think I've seen another flex that much.
this version of BAR is pure sex
SV8812 Please do not have sex with this rifle.
SV8812 hold my bear
Boner-Attracting Rifle
30.06-dicked
SV8812
If this rifle was an anthropomorphic anime girl i would marry and bone on the daily
3:36 if you were born before 1996 your children might be suprised you are older than Google ! 🤣
Kudos to Ian for keeping it clean, I'm sure 99% of people after shooting that full auto would say FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Whoa . . .
The opening video of the Monitor firing is an excellent display of the effects of barrel harmonics on weapons overall performance.
“Dayum this is a cool gun”
First time I have heard that from Ian.
I will never get tired of seeing how flexible firearms are in slow motion video
Best looking BAR I've ever seen. It does look fun to shoot.
The slow motion was cool. Watching the entire weapon flex when fired was interesting.
Hey, I have an R75 but it was made by BMW and has two wheels.
32, well, 3.2 inches that is. >)
I couldn't imagine shouldering a full auto 30-06. That has got to be a bucket list item
Is the safety something that was changed from the original WW1 guise to this variant? In the 1918 video you mentioned that the detent (or button) in path of the selector was designed so that it would be easy to move the selector from safe to fire but not the other way around. However on this example the detent seems to also prevents the user going from safe to fire without deliberately depressing the detent first.
Yes, it does appear to have been changed between the two models.
Forgotten Weapons Why?
Matt Fortman cuz
cat637d thanks!
It's insane watching the slow mo, with the whole gun shaking and bending like crazy. Such an awesome gun, the BAR is one of those guns that i have to shoot before i die.
I noticed the flex as well! I really, REALLY would love to have one of these!!
Thanks Ian
Thank you for showing us Jim’s
USMC - US Marshal Colt Monitor
How American is that. We use to make cars with steel so strong it could resist a sub machine gun. Haha. They don’t make them like they use to.
Michael G A Problem with cars like that if you get into a high speed collision you're most certainly fucked. Cars that solid will transfer more of the deadly force of impact into it's occupants. That's why modern cars crumple on impact. Automobile accidents were waaay more fatal back then but hey at least you're bulletproof when the pigs start shooting, unless they're using a .357 magnum....
usaid alfatih and most vehicle fatalities are caused by lack of seat belts, and BY CRUSHING OF THE OCCUPANTS.
usaid alfatih CRUSHING CAUSES DEATH.
"TRANSFER OF ENERGY" CAUSES WHIPLASH/CONCUSSIONS.
People back then didn't wear seat belts, and drove drunk CONSTANTLY.
That's why death rates for accidents were higher.
Michael G the steel WAS NOT stronger, it was just THICKER, because the stamping technology was inferior.
Those doors wouldn't stand up to 9mm Luger. WW1, nor modern day.
I want a car like that so I don't have to pay for replacement body work after mishaps.
I love this channels cause they have some beautiful old school weapons I need a monitor for my collection
Very cool! Seems that the weight and comp chill out recoil. .30-06 full auto is pretty crazy to think about. You need double ear pro I'd bet? Awesome vid Ian!
Always liked the Monitor from Colt! A few years ago, Colt put out a special presentation model Monitor with a nice hard leather case and accessories/compartments. If I recall, they were around $4-5,000. All strictly Semi-auto versions of course, sad, but I still want one! They show up on Gunbroker from time to time. Real Range Eye Candy if you don’t happen to have Pamela Anderson with you.
I remember seeing that on "The Highwaymen."
I think I just found my Holy Grail rifle. My God that thing is beautiful.
The barrel flex in slow mo is amazing
That looks ridiculously visceral to shoot. If only I had 72K to get one of those lol. Great presentation though, hats off to you Ian! Keep up the good stuff!
Can you imagine that? State of the art military technology, so advanced in fact the military doesn't want to deploy it in fear of the enemies using it, and within a couple years it was being produced for private citizens. If only the second ammendment was this strong today.
I saw a picture of one of these years ago. I've always thought it would have been neat to see one scaled down to work with the .276 Pedersen cartridge we flirted with adopting in the 1930s. With the lighter cartridge, it probably would have been possible to shave the weight down to around 10lbs and have a real, practical assault rifle.
Great video bro. Keep the history alive!
What is probably causing your complaint of the concussion is that you are shooting in an enclosed pit (at least 2 sides are visible). If you were to shoot it in an open area where the concussion would not rebound off the pit walls, it might not be quite so bad. Love all your video's and wish I could shoot some of those weapons along side you. Keep it up.
No problem. I just enjoy the videos.
I thought the same thing, but really when would this, be used in the c open? It is intended for raids and ambushes. In each case I am sure the agent would do his best to use cover.
Brake, not break, because it acts as a brake and does not break anything.
It's actually really open out back there where he's shooting. I think there are only two wooden walls there now to catch brass and provide a good backdrop because behind that is a bunch of trucks and stuff
Ian has fired several rifles and pistols in that same pit. He's not complained about any other weapon being painfully loud. Maybe it's because this rifle is just fucking loud? I also suspect Ian knows what the hell he's talking about.
Being in that fence corner probably enhances the sound blast to the shooter. Fascinating rifle though.
Ironically, Clyde Barrow himself had a couple of these, as did the pose that eventually put paid to Bonny & Clyde - and when you see the level of destruction on Clydes car (very gruesome photos) you can see why the Monitor was developed. Those big Ford's were really built!!! :D