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  • Опубліковано 19 лис 2024

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  • @jeffhill1213
    @jeffhill1213 5 місяців тому +18

    I think almost all those people criticizing sword and the tech that comes with it, never played sword in ranked. Like you said, if sword was that broken then all of the meta slaves would be using it but as we can see that isn’t the case.

    • @zaccool4971
      @zaccool4971 5 місяців тому +2

      Yes exactly I think the same and when they say is easy its just unfair when you spend 200h using sword

    • @LordKing13
      @LordKing13 5 місяців тому +1

      Exactly

    • @dwupac
      @dwupac 5 місяців тому +1

      Light is not viable according to rank Lord, I can see that when you play stacked with Heavy's utility. Play quick cash with sworemote lords and tell me it's ok when swordmaster charges full teams and takes 2 kills zipping back and forth non stop

    • @robertsanchez1804
      @robertsanchez1804 5 місяців тому

      ​@@dwupac you still have rpg, charge n slam, shotgun with the fastest time to kill if your are using heavy, zipline, jump pad and mines. It makes sense that a melee weapon kills you at close range, just try to keep the diatance

  • @ImFlints
    @ImFlints 5 місяців тому +8

    Diamond 3 sword player here, Learning and mastering sword tech took me easily over 300 hours, and I still haven't mastered phantom striking and when I try to do it the majority of the time it gets me killed. Even in the practice range I can pull it off maybe 70% of the time. That said I do think its more along the lines of an exploit than emote canceling which is just an easier gadget swap. But anyone saying emote canceling doesn't require skill clearly has not played sword, since they would know your timings have to be PERFECT. If you emote cancel before hitting the person then your lunge is completely worthless even if you where right on them. They're going to 100% patch emote canceling but I doubt gadget swapping will get patched and its alot harder to pull off a gadget swap then an emote cancel so I think it'll balance out in terms of skill expression since the tech is going to be alot harder to pull off.

    • @xdToom
      @xdToom 5 місяців тому

      Also not to mention backstab does slightly less damage than sword and is easier to do and no one complains about that. (Compared to phantom striking)
      “Phantom striking doesn’t need to be in the game too much damage ☝️🤓”
      “Ok? And when have you ever died to it or had problems with it in game? 🗡️🗿”
      “Oh, never I just see cheaters and exploiters using it on UA-cam that are a lot better than me but can still not perform phantom striking consistently to actually make a huge difference to gameplay. But yet I will still complain because I am a power shift bronze 8 player that started a week ago and am already brainwashed by ottr ☝️🤓”
      “Thats crazy! Enjoy playing heavy and one shotting ever light you see with rpg and then going to discord saying heavy needs buffs and light is broken. 🗡️ 🗿”

    • @ImFlints
      @ImFlints 5 місяців тому

      ​@@xdToom To me, phantom striking is on a fine line for being an exploit and I really wouldn't blame the devs for not wanting it in the game. You're hitting while winding up another attack, that's like shooting while reloading. The reason I think emote canceling is fine is I see it super similar to canceling the long reload animation lewis gun when you have to do the long animation by putting up and down mesh shield really quickly. A smaller form of skill expression sure but it does exist. You could claim I'm just bitter since I can't constantly do it but I do think the vast majority of sword light players could care less if phantom striking was removed we mostly care about emote canceling.

  • @ginocarrasco3432
    @ginocarrasco3432 5 місяців тому +11

    Sword hard asf to play even with emote cancel shit takes skill no cap😂

    • @-j-j-c
      @-j-j-c 5 місяців тому

      skill issue ngl

    • @Zurdo1x
      @Zurdo1x 5 місяців тому

      @@-j-j-c L take u need skill for sword

  • @5c0rp10nStuff
    @5c0rp10nStuff 5 місяців тому +1

    My last game at plat 2 with my fr was like, we play final round vs dimond stack, sword guy dash in our M and dash out, cause he can literally dash 6 times. if we trying to catch him, we wasting time and enemies shoot our back cause we running around after the flying guy like clowns. If we ignore him and try to kill someone else, he will made sushi roll of us, cause he start moving when you start shooting, to made you lose his sound. we tried very hard, killed swordman few times, but their M, hiding and wait his attempt to kill, if swordman died, he wait until we move to bank and insta res him. So this horror repeat again and again. Playing against diamonds is ok, but sword guys feels very hard, he jump on your face like it dancefloor and you need 130 fov to see his moves.

  • @xdToom
    @xdToom 5 місяців тому +1

    Also not to mention backstab does slightly less damage than sword and is easier to do and no one complains about that. (Compared to phantom striking)
    “Phantom striking doesn’t need to be in the game too much damage ☝️🤓”
    “Ok? And when have you ever died to it or had problems with it in game? 🗡️🗿”
    “Oh, never I just see cheaters and exploiters using it on UA-cam that are a lot better than me but can still not perform phantom striking consistently to actually make a huge difference to gameplay. But yet I will still complain because I am a power shift bronze 8 player that started a week ago and am already brainwashed by ottr ☝️🤓”
    “Thats crazy! Enjoy playing heavy and one shotting ever light you see with rpg and then going to discord saying heavy needs buffs and light is broken. 🗡️ 🗿”

  • @ShaunGoodwinGD
    @ShaunGoodwinGD 5 місяців тому

    The sword has a low skill entry barrier but high skill ceiling. Emote cancelling definitely makes the sword stronger but it does require some level of skill to properly use. Like another comment said- you need to use it *perfectly* to get proper utility out of it (since you're playing the literal weakest class in the whole game).
    And I don't understand how people say "there's no counter to sword"... Flamethrower, grenade, grenade launchers, charge and slam, shotguns, playing in open rooms, playing close to teammates, having a relatively good aim, and even running out of dashes will get you killed as a light. I feel like all melee weapons have pretty big counters, arguably the most compared to other weapons in the game. And as someone with hundreds of hours on the sword, going from bronze to diamond in s1 with it alone (and partially in s2), I do feel like there should be some degree of skill expression for the sword -- similar to how the dagger used to have the Akiba step. But that's up to Embark at the end of the day

  • @Sarcasmos-ft7gz
    @Sarcasmos-ft7gz 5 місяців тому

    The mass hoard of people complaining about sword techs is making my brain actively rot. The phantom strike ESPECIALLY. I am a got diamond with sword this season and I have not once EVER seen a phantom strike pulled off successfully in a game before, casual or ranked. Nor have I ever managed to pull one off. And all these people who complain about "no counterplay to emote cancel or sword", if they played a few rounds of sword against half decent players, they would immediately realize how dumb that take is. Play around a jump pad, or even more aggravating (for the sword player), play around a frag mine, I have seen plenty of heavies who see me coming and put a landmine at their feet and stand on it, and there is nothing I can do other than hope a teammate is nearby to kill him instead. Not to mention the most obvious "counter" to a MELEE weapon, *try to engage in an open area with no cover*.
    Also I am convinced that most of the people who complain about emote cancel barely even know what they are talking about, if at all. You see sword players once every 4 or 5 games, good ones a fraction of that, and ones who use techs effectively, an even smaller amount. Not to mention the whole "double ttk with emote cancel" BS, which is just factually untrue (TTK against medium with EC being .14 seconds faster than not). The real advantage from EC comes from the extra mobility and ability to not be stuck in the vulnerable lunge animation as long, which for a class that has the lowest amount of health, and can be one shot by several abilities and weapons on other classes, is fine, and is a big help at higher ranks against good players who have very good aim tracking.

  • @aboi1324
    @aboi1324 5 місяців тому

    I respect the playstyle, people who complain about it are kinda dumb imo. It takes plenty of skill to pull off playing with the sword in high ranks and in general.

  • @captain_argus
    @captain_argus 5 місяців тому +4

    it’s a war between casual and competitive. any player with a brain can counter sword so in ranked you dont see it being used as much, but in casual (where all the complainers come from) the average player is random queueing and has subpar aim, making it very hard to counter. i support keeping emote canceling because good players will always be good. without emote canceling good sword players will still win because the “exploit” isnt even that strong. it barely reduces ttk, and even the reduced ttk is slower than other weapons like the xp. embark will likely remove it due to it being a bug, but i doubt casual players will stop complaining. theyll probably come after gadget swapping next lol

  • @gocrashbandoloot
    @gocrashbandoloot 5 місяців тому

    Exactly mfs hate sword but sledgehammer and other weapons slap then sword has glitches, sometimes you lunge and then basic attack then it glitches by itself causing you not being able to attack which makes 0 sense… so I see why people emote switch… I don’t do it because it takes too much time when I try to do it, it gets me killed on ps5 like I said the sword glitches when you literally use the lunge and basic attack multiple times. The animation glitches… they need to fix that, maybe people wouldn’t swap to cancel if the animations actually worked

  • @Atom1cAtom
    @Atom1cAtom 5 місяців тому

    any horizontal zipline counters sword

  • @ivanwang3150
    @ivanwang3150 5 місяців тому

    thank you for giving me my opinion on the sword.

  • @Xylrad
    @Xylrad 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm your 500th sub hope you get popular u inspired me to use sword

  • @5c0rp10nStuff
    @5c0rp10nStuff 5 місяців тому

    I wish embark will add Jankrat trap to finals so light will dash into it and stuck like Tracer heheheheheheheh

  • @dem0znoga
    @dem0znoga 5 місяців тому

    another day another yap, for I am one with the blade

  • @carloho5013
    @carloho5013 5 місяців тому

    Best Take of 2024

  • @GA11OWZ
    @GA11OWZ 5 місяців тому

    MIC buzzing all video. No hate just a heads up if you didn’t know.

  • @Assashin_
    @Assashin_ 5 місяців тому

    the discord link is not working could you send a new one? :) i would love to join

    • @pullkia
      @pullkia  5 місяців тому

      discord.gg/4gxVGhFgT8

  • @itzinfamous6627
    @itzinfamous6627 5 місяців тому

    I mean medium can use shotgun and combine melee that would would also be an insta kill .

  • @rezlerr_
    @rezlerr_ 5 місяців тому

    buz they wna play with cod brain sword i only good if ur good with it. all these light complaint makes no sence when heavy is a raid boss dog walking his med but okay light op

  • @123-k8v
    @123-k8v 5 місяців тому

    I still don’t understand why people cry about phantom strike. I play heavy on my main account (rank D1) and I’ve played against most of the top sword players, and I have died to the phantom strike maybe 3 times. Even if you do the tech perfectly, engaging a full hp heavy is still a MASSIVELY unfavorable fight for a sword. The sword’s strength is always going to be in killing unaware mediums, and none of the current bugs/cancels change that. If you are too dumb to pick one of the dozen hard counters to the sword, you should just say that instead of whining.

  • @Assashin_
    @Assashin_ 5 місяців тому

    The problem is that sword is only in high elo , decent . in low elo and casual (where ppl cant aim or urse their brain, no offense its just what i see from exp) a good/decent sword player is gonna dominate even without emote cancel and phantom strike. so naturally a lot of peapole will complain .when i go sword in casual not using techs btw its usually a 15-25/3 game. in ranked (i usually use techs in ranked. im dia4) my kd ratio is way waaay closer to 1 . 8/5 .(bruh idk what im even trying to say in this comment,)
    few other takes (my opinion)
    1. phantom strike is rly hard and is definitely a skill expression(i only pulled it off once or twice in a real game)
    2. there are plenty and i mean plenty of sword counters in the game
    3. even with emote cancel xp and lh1 are still stronger weapons
    i personnaly would like if these techs stay but i look forward to how the devs are gonna address the problem i mentioned above
    also makes sure to type all those hate comments and critiques of me here :)

    • @pullkia
      @pullkia  5 місяців тому +1

      well said. and i do think emote cancel should get removed and hopefully gadget swapping should stay.

    • @Assashin_
      @Assashin_ 5 місяців тому

      @@pullkia im currently learning gadget swapping. and it is a real skill expression nobody can argue against it .its not easy but im sure I'll get it down eventually

  • @Ahmad_Jihad
    @Ahmad_Jihad 5 місяців тому

    Bro, you replied to my "there is no room for skill expression with other guns to equally fight phantom strike" by telling how hard it is, but this is my point: Its so hard and requires a ton of skill but grants you an advantage ((that the enemy cant match)) because other guns doesnt allow for such high skill expression.
    In other words:
    Phantom strike provides such a high skill ceiling for the sword that doesnt exist for other weapons, other weapons have lower skill ceilings so you will always out skill them because their guns skill ceiling is lower than yours so you get more of your high skill ceiling than they get of their lower skill ceilings.
    All that aside the sword is very good without these techs but light is the weak part of it, most of the unfair annoyances and counters while playing sword are general on light as a class not on sword exclusively as a playstyle, sword isnt dominating high elo lobbies because its on light which is very weak, if light (hopefully) get sufficiently buff'd to be as viable as any other class, sword with these techs would be op but would probably be balanced without them.

    • @pullkia
      @pullkia  5 місяців тому +1

      that’s the thing. light class should be higher skill ceiling. it’s a class where it’s high risk high reward. other guns doesn’t allow that high skill expression but they compensate that with their advantages of having range and also good aim to scale with that too. the skill ceiling for guns is their aim while sword should be their techs and movement. on top of that the light class is a class where position matters the most.

    • @Ahmad_Jihad
      @Ahmad_Jihad 5 місяців тому

      @@pullkia I appreciate your reply and am happy you got my point even if we dont agree 100% on that specific topic as I think its mainly down to opinions on fine points but I agree with your general points.
      Honestly this made me think that mechanics and techs are probably a lot of fun for sword players and techs may should stay but with balance tweaks.
      I have more to say but tbh I wouldn't bore you more, lets hope Embark take well-thought moves thats fair and satisfactory to both sides.

  • @no34231
    @no34231 5 місяців тому

    Emote cancelling is not a reasonable bug for "Skill expression" those types of things are for movement related things or things that don't break the balancing of the game. (Like changing DPS) Please don't defend it and the reason they have not patched it is because they may not know how yet or they might be focusing on developing season 3. I see your point about banning players out of the blue but otherwise no, please don't defend emote cancelling, it does not belong in the game. (Take this with a grain of salt and I am not against you) Also, yes I agree that light class should be for high skill players and the casuals will always hate and enjoy light at the same time but it still needs to be tuned a bit and receive more changes to make it viable for the team as it doesn't bring enough usefulness. Also, you can't rely on outplaying people 100% of the time as that chance will drastically lower as the players you face become better and more aware.

  • @daqwanparrott3638
    @daqwanparrott3638 5 місяців тому

    I understand how you feel just like what they did you for. they nerve C4 in the ground all because of nukes and they have never above C4 sense. and the sword of weapon. I understand that sword is you’re made weapon and your main contact. and people are abusing a tech that can kill people in a couple of seconds. an embark might Nerf the sword on top of getting rid of the tech hopefully they don’t. but we all have to agree that killing people in a couple of seconds with a broken sword. Tech has to get out of the game.

  • @capten272
    @capten272 5 місяців тому +1

    I did not say this in the last vid but I also think current sword is very cheesy in 1v1 scenarios, it’s obviously not easy but you bassically trade all your abilities for 1 free kill which the opponents can not do much about. The best counter to sword is team play and thats why its not busted at the highest elo. Maybe a rework is needed to make hitting multiple opponents possible but nerfing the damage quite a bit, making 3 lunges kill a medium to decrease viability in 1v1s but being able to hit multiple opponents to balance it more throughout all ranks. Idk if thats a good option and as I said already I don’t play sword so take it as you will

    • @GrenxTM
      @GrenxTM 5 місяців тому

      the best counter to sword is: rpg,charge n slam, jump pad, good aim, the model and stun gun not only team play

    • @capten272
      @capten272 5 місяців тому +1

      @@GrenxTM thats only if they see you comming, noone plays chargenslam, good aim litteraly does nothing in a 1v1, even shroud can’t do anything with just aim. Rpg is nice but im talking about fighting mediums not heavy as there is at least 1 medium per team, if not 2, and sword is extremely oppressive against medium mainly. Jump pad is a valid counter, but not applicable in every scenario (sword players like to fight indoors).

    • @pullkia
      @pullkia  5 місяців тому +2

      @@capten272 well said. i do agree in most scenarios mediums can’t do much in indoor fights but if that’s the case they should get traded out by the heavy player and also but don’t u think in this H H M meta , talking about rank only, there should at least be some kind of counter play to the meta? sword player should go and assassinate the medium player and if they are good they should be able to live without getting traded by heavy’s. that is where i think separates the good sword players and bad ones. since emote cancel won’t matter much in actual coordinate team plays when it’s all about game sense at that point.

  • @Dumbellofdoom
    @Dumbellofdoom 5 місяців тому

    sword takes skill to master, people which did that totally dominated the finals, that is why it got nerfed, without emote cancel sword is trash. in conclusion emote canceling was exploit, and they are banning for exploits, not for sword itself.

  • @ObeethVRG
    @ObeethVRG 5 місяців тому

    The Finals = 🐒 I love it hahahahaha
    Before anyone gets offended, I love this game.

    • @ObeethVRG
      @ObeethVRG 5 місяців тому

      I have a question, if the sword is op and easy to abuse, ¿why don't I see swords in all my rankeds?

  • @MikeZhang-e3l
    @MikeZhang-e3l 5 місяців тому

    Stream tonight ?

  • @oatstraw
    @oatstraw 5 місяців тому +1

    thanks for the yapuccino i just woke up 🙏

  • @jakereising6342
    @jakereising6342 5 місяців тому

    Imagine crying about sword when there are players who play flamethrower, RPG, and charge and slam lmao

  • @darrenyeager289
    @darrenyeager289 5 місяців тому

    mayor of yapville

    • @pullkia
      @pullkia  5 місяців тому +2

      strongest glazer of today

  • @BeamiFyeTV
    @BeamiFyeTV 5 місяців тому

    Mofos dont understand... It does take time to develop the skill, its not ez especially the timing... It will cost you and you WILL throw and die. Like bruh the more they nerf light these devs need to add 5 to 10hp lol seriously. T500 light sword player 🗡️

  • @carloho5013
    @carloho5013 5 місяців тому

    wow so handsome

  • @TheFinalsHater
    @TheFinalsHater 5 місяців тому

    You? I don't think so buddy.

  • @trolol3pacanov
    @trolol3pacanov 5 місяців тому

    bro at least censor the names 😂🤣🤣

  • @Fingle
    @Fingle 5 місяців тому

  • @michaelgerken3234
    @michaelgerken3234 5 місяців тому

    no one cares