I'm just thrilled to see it slinging real lead and a stout load. See how happy that made her. I've always wanted to try big Minnie style shells in a smooth bore.
I spent 23+ years as an Artilleryman. Even though the current US Army equipment is bigger and modern, this still looks like a very fun day. 2A all the way!
Suggestion, in the russo Japanese war, the Russians field improvised a trench mortar from an old muzzleloading cannon. With a light charge and high elevation the fired a 'aerial torpedo ' a short distance to the Japanese trenches around Port Arthur. The projectile was a long dowl, topped with a pointed cylinder with three short stubby metal fins. The tip looked like a stubby little rocket, but the dowel went down the barrel of the gun. When fired the stick and fins orientated the thing to fall nose first triggering the detonator. If you want images i can dredge them up. This is obscure stuff. If you want to try: don't put any warhead in the thing unless you wanna go to jail, obviously Make sure the dowl isnt tight, use small loads. Danger of blowing up the cannon by increasing the potential friction and resistance of the projectile leaving the barrel. Anyway just a thought. Really enjoy the channel.
Did you work out the aerodynamics with sw or off line info? Looks like some shots were unstable. If you launch a rocket and the net forces are something other than zero, you likely will not get a good result. 😊
Use a class D rocket up a aluminum budweiser bottle after putting shredded steel wool with vaseline on it inside the bottle then disolve a bunch of styro foam in gasoline till its a jell and put it inside one of those quarter machine trinket globes from the grocery store an drill a 1/4" hole in the lid of the globe and drill a 1/2" hole in the bottom of the bottle and hot glue the globe to the bottom of the bottle with the holes alighned and glue some stabilization fins on the neck of the bottle rocket propelled cannon fired napalm mortars 😮
I'm still not sure how much I trust this guy... But. He does have a cannon.. he shoots regularly.. and he seems to be the thinking sort. You get front lines, but not watching my six. Good luck.
*man creates 3d printer* English - I can't wait to make a tea pot! Japanese - I cant wait to make car parts! German - I can't wait to make plane parts! American - cannon.... rocket cannon
Without spin the rocket shell needs the center of mass in front of the center of aerodynamic pressure. So try a lead nose, and maybe add either fins [needs a sabot and dealing with supersonic effects...] or just extend a thin hollow plastic shell at the rear. Look up how to test model rocket stability with a string. Basically tie a 6ft string around the shell at the center of mass balance point and swing it around in a circle, a stable shell/rocket will point into the wind. Be sure to test with both a full weight and empty [used] rocket motor. Don't ignite it, just swing.
Oh and C6-7 is not a great engine type for this. Get some booster-stage engines like a C6-0 or C11-0 (Red label and always end in a "-0" delay charge). You are using an upper stage(purple label) which includes wasted components like a long after thrust delay (7 seconds) and a parachute ejection charge.
*Simply shoving a rocket motor in the rear of a balanced shell, will almost always cause the shell to fly off upwards out of control.* Especially a long and slow burning rocket motor.
How badass would it be if you were able to get in contact with The Slow Mo Guys or one of the big slow-mo UA-camrs so they can try to film your experiments to see how they actually look and work
Rocket scientist (well, one semester of rocket science listener) here. You seem to have a very big problem with stability, that is why your 100 yard shots missed. The easiest way to improve it would be following RPG-7 design: a conventional rocket (not a shell! - it has to be kinda longer and have deployable fins) fired by a relatively small powder charge in order to gain some initial velocity while the rocket engine is not outputting full thrust. Feel free to ask my e-mail and consult me if you would have further questions.
Came across my feed... this reminds me of when I started watching demo ranch and Kentucky ballistics back in the day.. good content keep it up.. i look forward to seeing how far ya go with that amazing cannon 😊
@@TheCannoneer since you did the pirate ammo... have you considered 3d printing a shot canister and filling it with stuff like nails and other ship board non ammo things to see how they work in a tight situation :) I know it's been done before but I don't know if it's been done with this style of cannon
That 150 yards shot proves that both the cannon and the cannoneer are accurate, congrats on your aim man. The only thing that prevented the rocket rounds from being laser-like accurate was aerodynamic stability. I wonder if diabolo pellets would be accurate if you stick a rocket motor in the middle.
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I’d really like to try that one day if the channel gets big enough and people might like it. I think if we presight and use an instant fuse inside of a blind we could potentially harvest an animal with it. I don’t know how that would go over UA-cam wise though!
I tend to be mostly anti-troop, so grapeshot, canister, flechette, and then maybe a "micro-APFSDS" for high velocity anti-melon maneuvers. It's be cool to see the muzzle velocity of these as well.
They flew pretty straight for just the cone and engine maybe you could add little fins to it or make the cone with grooves in it to help with spin or add a ring at the base where the engine it so it'd work like a tank round
Is there any place i could send you 3d printfiles for future ideas? I have some other rocket related designs i would to see you try (i just have some more testing i need to do)
Great video, where are you buying your powder? I've been looking for a good deal but things are getting pricey. Have an 1841 6 pounder myself that eats a lot of powder. Love the idea of 3d printing shells! Going to try that here too.
Good question! Sadly the pressure differences between smokeless and black powder is drastically different and our cannon isn’t proofed for smokeless so that’s a bit of a mystery on the safety aspect. Second, if we start shooting smokeless the ATF might get involved as only black powder cannons aren’t regulated in the USA. Just trying to play it as safe as possible! Good question!
One thing I've noticed is all the smoke when you shoot. That means your using too much powder. I've been shooting a Muzzle Loading .50 caliber Hawken Rifle since the late 70's, and I've come to realize that you should use just enough powder to get your shot to the target. These days, I just just enough, and all I get is a little puff of smoke when I shoot. Also if your not going to use rocket motored rounds. Try using an over powder wad. It will make a better gas seal, so your powder will burn mostly in the barrel. Just my two cents worth.
You need to redesign your projectile so it is Boat Tail shaped, like the .50 Browning MG round. Also make it longer and cut rifling grooves in it, like a "Rifled" Shotgun slug. Also is you can, make your projectile out of something heavier.
Another awesome video man keep doing what you're doing! I mean eventually you'll be creating new classifications federal law regarding cannons and 3D printed projectiles. That or you'll get get recruited by Raytheon haha 😆. Love it keep safe and keep killing it!
ever thought about making a 3D printed APCR or APDS round? e.g. round with a 15 mm 90-100% fill core and an outer casing with less filling, just like APCR rounds, or a small 10-15 mm 100% fill penetrator with a lower fill 3/4 piece sabot? it could be interesting to see if it's actually viable, or even if you could replace the cores with metal ones and make semi-3d printed APCR and APDS
At what point do the rounds need NFA registration or otherwise fall under the ATF's eye of Sauron? I'm sure you're on top of that but it always makes me antsy, what with their capricious nature and all. I'd want a lawyer on speed dial just in case
From what I can tell as long as the cannon itself sets off the rockets, not the other way around, it’s good to go. I think I can get away with explosive cannonballs the same way but I don’t think I’m going to push that one!
…at this point, I’m not even gonna bother asking why this showed up in my recommended videos. The UA-cam algorithm works in mysterious ways and I’ve passed the point where asking “how is this in my feed” will net me anything other than screaming from beyond the void. I’m just gonna sit back and enjoy the sheer absurdity of a guy shooting a *personal cannon* out on a range. I can just imagine the giddy little smirk on the ATF officer’s face when they gave you the all clear to purchase your cannon; probably made their day! Now with that outta the way, I’m probably not the only one who noticed the shells key-holing like nobody’s business at round-abouts 150 yards; I’m guessing that’s probably their maximum range (even with the rocket motor) without you having to design some sorta discarding sabot or other such stabilizing mechanism for them. I also noticed that the rockets probably burned out around that distance as well. I got two questions for ya: 1. Would a discarding sabot even work with your setup? 2. What brand of hobby rocket are you using? (I’m asking because certain brands might be better suited for your endeavors in regards to distance, burn control and burn time)
Hahaha actually we made it and that’s totally legal and the ATF doesn’t consider black powder mussel loading cannons as anything at all other than antiques haha. Oh for sure. They need a bit of rifling added to them. As for the rocket motor I think it was estes. Just what they had at the store.
RIP tripod. Tripod was a real one. Unfortunately all the unauthorized rocket violence plaguing the young tipods took him too soon. Insert momma tripod waling- "muh baby was a good boy, loved skew-gibbs me dat check"
Dude.. besides the lack of fins to keep the projectile from tumbling and key-holing .. except for the ball shot.. How about a carriage that can elevate to like 80* and shooting out fireworks (for the 4th of July)... Try a rocket with fins and a Diabolo shape
Never watched a cannon fire. Anyone know the ball weight, estimated fps, and approximate ft lbs of energy @ 100 yards? Im sure one would probably get an idea if his powder charge is known? Ive never thought much about these lead balls until i watched the melon @ 100. God rest those soldiers of old that faced these things. Thats nightmare fuel.
Im wondering if it stays stabilized at distance as your gun is most likely smoothbore. I see room for fin stablization experaments. However u would need a thick base plate at bottom of fins that falls away. One mustn't have air space in the powder. In my rifled 40mm guns 30 carb tracers were installed. In the 3" guns i used 50cal tracers. Also put 50cal incendairys in the noses in both sizes but havent fired those yet😊
I’ve got a pop out fin version I just finished! I’ll have to look into adding some bullets to the tips of projectiles too but I’m not very good at modeling things just yet.
Very impressive! I heard you say you normally load the cannon with 400 grains. When you shot the rocket rounds did you reduce load? I found with musket size rounds (.75 cal) I’m able to reduce the power load by almost half and aim slightly lower, like you saw during shooting they like to rise up from the rocket. I would also recommend putting something flammable that burns hot into the rocket (when I was doing testing a small piece of magnesium was enough to help the rocket go off earlier) Overall great video, great to see the rocket round idea at a massive scale as this.
Have you use copper pipe filled with lead? Your Canon is larger. I made a steel Canon with a one inch bore. My favorite round is a thin plastic container filled with a 50/50 mix of lead shot and plaster of Paris. Makes a white cloud when it smacks a wall. Still don't know the full range of the Canon. Oh one more thing. Put vernier sights on . That you can remove before touch off.
Holy crap i got 2 ads on this video, when the title has all of the no-no words. On a channel i've never seen before? On the first 3 lines of my home page? Is nature healing?
Congrats from East TN! The Army (aka the good Army), had a fort on the mountain by my house and would use similar cannons to pound “Northern Aggressors” coming up the old copper road after leaving Chattanooga… good times😉
Looks like you may be shooting in a park of some kind. I like target shooting myself but safety is the first concern. You must always know what's downrange beyond your target. Have you insured there's no chance of people being in those woods behind that target. I mean do you KNOW without a doubt the area is clear? If not you're risking killing someone out hiking, mushroom hunting or just enjoying the forest. I think you should make damn sure the area downrange is clear by scouting it out before hand. Use a bullhorn or speaker like a legitimate range to announce the danger and or send a drone up to scout for anyone who could be downrange, and that includes a wide fan left and right of the intended line of fire to account for projectile deflection. If all this safety talk irritates you and you're not willing to take such precautions then you should take that rig to a legitimate range with a high berm for a backstop. Glad you're having fun..just be responsible.
100% valid concern! We’re shooting on a 300 acre property that’s for private use only and right behind the tree line is a giant hillside that catches anything that’s fired in that direction. You’ll see us shooting there a bunch of times as that entire part of the property is in a bowl surrounded by hills and cliffs. We do however have another range that has big burms that we can shoot at however it’s much further away.
Thats why you affix (glue, bolt and weld) core components in projectiles, if you dont typically it separates @1:56 freeze frame, im fairly certain the rocket motor took out your camera...
Wow! I first was.thinking that is a little cannon.... But wow what a punch! Gives me a whole new perspective on cannons and their power! Amazing to see! That you!
The more pertinent question is how much of the velocity of those rounds was generated by the gun powder in the cannon, and did the rocket motor actually provide any additional velocity? Shooting home made projectiles may be fun,but for what purpose other than to make noise and hopefully hit something other than a hillside. A real test would be to take the cannon out to a longer range ( professional) and fire rounds without the rocket, and then fire them with the rocket. Is there a difference? It’s clear the rocket motors are lit, but I doubt they’re adding anything but a tracer burn.
I wonder what might happen if you hollowed out the nose of the rocket rounds enough to inset and glue on a ball for a slightly smaller cannon, if there is such a thing. To make the rocket round nose-heavy. Maybe also make it longer so that a combination of momentum in the nose drag on the tail can stabilize the round before the rocket engages. But I'm just spitballing.
My god! Those cannons musta been a scary thing to stare down in a battle. Those projectiles are 3d printed ffs and it's tearing though that metal like it's paper! You need to make the up some grapeshot and canister shots. Don't forget marbles are round 😉 or even better a crystal ball 😂
Those rocket rounds are dope. Looks like it might be keyholing a little. Maybe have a little sabot housing attached? Or gyro holes, like the gyrojet rounds.
Cool to own your own cannon, but the idea of a high velocity projectile just flying off into the woods is not a good idea. You don't know 100 percent of the time when someone is back there or not, nor do you know exactly where that thing is impacting.
It’s a 300 acre range that we’re shooting at and there a big hillside behind the tree line which is why we’re shooting in that location. It’s also a private range so we’re the only people there at the shooting time. Doing our very very best to be as safe as possible!
You could make a hollow space in the head of the rocket, fill it with flash powder and cap it off with a 209 shotgun primer. Taofledermaus did something similar with 12 gage slugs. 1.5 bore is big enough for a significant payload.
@@zebdeming Since it doesn't fire fixed ammunition, the cannon wouldn't be considered a DD, but exploding projectiles likely would be. There are channel creators who have the proper licensing to make such things, so a collab with one of them would be the simple way to accomplish such a video without risking either life and limb or running afoul of the alphabet agencies who regulate such things. Still probably get you on a list though. ;-)
I’m thinking about printing a cannon and seeing what we can get out of it. I think you could easily do maybe a small like 30 cal cannon if it’s think enough.
Yo, how many grams of powder is used? And what is the composition or brand. Very much like to know the cannon ball weight and the velocity. M o r t o r. assisted rocket launch with on board camera ?? ❤❤
We’re shooting goes cannon grain at the moment. 400g for the standard shot but it’s proofed up to 1200g and the lead cannonballs weight about 10oz. I’ve got to get the camera on the ramrod one of these days. It will be super cool to see that point of view.
That didn't work at all... the rocket motor came out because there was nothing to hold it in. That round is going from 0 to 1200 feet per second it's staying still and the round is leaving the barrel.
2 questions. Is the bore of the cannon over 1 inch? Is that considered a destructive device by the ATF? Friend was looking at a small cannon but doesn't want anything that needs to be registered.
It’s 1.5” but anything that’s considered a black powder muzzle loading cannon, even if it’s modern made, no matter the size of the bore, is exempt from those regulations. If it’s a breach loader, even if it doesn’t use shells, then they fall into those regulations. That’s my understanding at least as I read those laws. You can buy those big bore civil war guns online all day long if you have enough $$. One day we will have one if the channel gets big enough!
I've launched a lot of model rockets so I doubted any would light, the one that did suprised me. Basically a hot ember needs to make it up into the engines nozzle, you should play the lottery lol
I wasn’t quite sure what would happen with any of them but the amount of sparks that fly out of the cannon if you just touch it off without a projectile is crazy!
Lighting the rocket with the regular electric igniter should be able to light the powder I would think. If you can route the wire through the touch hole. Not that it matters. I'm sure that little C6 has puny energy compared to the powder charge.
Technically since the cannon itself sets off the charge and not the other then no. The same applies to explosive cannonballs oddly enough although those are super dangerous. If the cannon lights the fuse, and it’s a black powder muzzle loading cannon, you’re good to go. Good question. I researched a bit before this one!
What do you want to see us shoot next? What was your favorite shot?
I don't know if you've already tried this or if someone has already suggested it, but what about trying to pop popcorn with the cannon?
I'm just thrilled to see it slinging real lead and a stout load. See how happy that made her. I've always wanted to try big Minnie style shells in a smooth bore.
Pig heads against ball then cannister
could you try this but with two motors at an angle to create spin like the antique Gyrojet line of weapon?
Maybe a sabot round?
I spent 23+ years as an Artilleryman. Even though the current US Army equipment is bigger and modern, this still looks like a very fun day. 2A all the way!
It’s more fun than it needs to be. Trust me! 🤣😂
Today I learned that a tank round will go through the hood of a car like its nothing
*3d printed tank round
Reminds me of the old video where fpsrussia shoots an SUV with a Stuart tank.
This is a great contribution to science thank you so much.
🤣😂🚀 anytime!
More rockets maybe sum powder in the rocket hole🎉
I’ve got a few more rocket ideas!
Suggestion, in the russo Japanese war, the Russians field improvised a trench mortar from an old muzzleloading cannon. With a light charge and high elevation the fired a 'aerial torpedo ' a short distance to the Japanese trenches around Port Arthur. The projectile was a long dowl, topped with a pointed cylinder with three short stubby metal fins. The tip looked like a stubby little rocket, but the dowel went down the barrel of the gun. When fired the stick and fins orientated the thing to fall nose first triggering the detonator.
If you want images i can dredge them up. This is obscure stuff.
If you want to try: don't put any warhead in the thing unless you wanna go to jail, obviously
Make sure the dowl isnt tight, use small loads. Danger of blowing up the cannon by increasing the potential friction and resistance of the projectile leaving the barrel.
Anyway just a thought.
Really enjoy the channel.
That sounds like a version of a pot du fer cannon! I’ll have to research those! Cool idea!
Did you work out the aerodynamics with sw or off line info? Looks like some shots were unstable. If you launch a rocket and the net forces are something other than zero, you likely will not get a good result. 😊
We just shot them and saw what happened! I’m not much for math on that end, more of a let’s see what happens!
Use a class D rocket up a aluminum budweiser bottle after putting shredded steel wool with vaseline on it inside the bottle then disolve a bunch of styro foam in gasoline till its a jell and put it inside one of those quarter machine trinket globes from the grocery store an drill a 1/4" hole in the lid of the globe and drill a 1/2" hole in the bottom of the bottle and hot glue the globe to the bottom of the bottle with the holes alighned and glue some stabilization fins on the neck of the bottle rocket propelled cannon fired napalm mortars 😮
Oh that sounds scary….😈
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Thank you so much! Much appreciation!
Perfect home defense weapon for when you have a family of Sasquatch harrassing your homestead.
Right on the porch!
I'm still not sure how much I trust this guy...
But. He does have a cannon.. he shoots regularly.. and he seems to be the thinking sort.
You get front lines, but not watching my six.
Good luck.
😂🤣😂
Your backside ain't that purdy boyo.
Best intro I've ever seen.
"Hi, this is me. This is me cannon.
Hahaha. Thanks!
Dang!! That 150 yard melon shot was impressive!!
Thank you good sir! I hope you’re doing well!
I got a 1in and a 57mm and I can't hit shit at 200 yards lol. so that water melon shot was impressive to see.
@@DarkCook1es How do you source ammo for the 57?
if i was a watermelon i would not want to fight in the english civil war
The rocket needs to be longer, its keyholing. Look at a bazooka round. Wasp waist it and try twisting fins for spin.
Or gyrojet style rocket ports.
I wanted to say the same.
@@nospoon4799honestly at this size that might be doable. Could make it like a hydra with the engines at equal angles
You have the aerodynamics completely backwards.
_Its_ is possessive, and _it's_ is a contraction of _it is._ Stop being an NPC, and learn how to use punctuation.
*man creates 3d printer*
English - I can't wait to make a tea pot!
Japanese - I cant wait to make car parts!
German - I can't wait to make plane parts!
American - cannon.... rocket cannon
🚀🇺🇸🦅 as the founders intended.
@@TheCannoneer 🤣🤣 yee haw bruther! 🇺🇲
As a fellow 3D printer enthusiasts, yes 🥰
the lions share of you where English /founding fathers certainly where .
nice but you gotta start it off with "American creates 3d printer"* like most modern tech lol
Without spin the rocket shell needs the center of mass in front of the center of aerodynamic pressure. So try a lead nose, and maybe add either fins [needs a sabot and dealing with supersonic effects...] or just extend a thin hollow plastic shell at the rear.
Look up how to test model rocket stability with a string. Basically tie a 6ft string around the shell at the center of mass balance point and swing it around in a circle, a stable shell/rocket will point into the wind. Be sure to test with both a full weight and empty [used] rocket motor. Don't ignite it, just swing.
Oh and C6-7 is not a great engine type for this. Get some booster-stage engines like a C6-0 or C11-0 (Red label and always end in a "-0" delay charge). You are using an upper stage(purple label) which includes wasted components like a long after thrust delay (7 seconds) and a parachute ejection charge.
That would definitely tear a large patch of line out of a group. Grape shot would be hell at a hundred, a large bore scattergun.
We will have to get a grapeshot a different distances video out one of these days!
@@TheCannoneercanister shot with a burst charge would be cool too.
Now I know what to do with over a hundred pounds of 1/4" diameter slugs punched out of 3/16" steel that was used as ballast for a machine.
I was like, "How bad could it be, it's just plast--HOLY! WTF! That's frickin lethal.
I've been thinking about doing this, but with 577 snider. An A1/4 rocket motor will fit perfectly inside it.
Give it a shot and share some on my Instagram!
@@funklelester8646 👀
That 150 yard shot was on point. Great job blasting with that cannon.
Thanks!
My name is John
This is my canon.
ULTIMATE PICK UP LINE
Hahahaha!
"This is my cannon" my be the most 'murica thing I've ever heard. Subbed.
🇺🇸🦅 thanks!
*Simply shoving a rocket motor in the rear of a balanced shell, will almost always cause the shell to fly off upwards out of control.* Especially a long and slow burning rocket motor.
Damn bro, cool stuff! Definitely subbed.
Thank you so much!
"i own a musket for home defence, as the founding fathers intended"
A single shot one too!
How badass would it be if you were able to get in contact with The Slow Mo Guys or one of the big slow-mo UA-camrs so they can try to film your experiments to see how they actually look and work
I second this! Or the guys at High Speed Ballistic! Would love to see these tear up some gel in slo mo
Such a well spoken polite young man
Thanks!
Rocket scientist (well, one semester of rocket science listener) here. You seem to have a very big problem with stability, that is why your 100 yard shots missed. The easiest way to improve it would be following RPG-7 design: a conventional rocket (not a shell! - it has to be kinda longer and have deployable fins) fired by a relatively small powder charge in order to gain some initial velocity while the rocket engine is not outputting full thrust. Feel free to ask my e-mail and consult me if you would have further questions.
How do I contact you?
So sorry for the delay! I just saw your comment since someone replied! Anyway a printable rpg would be so awesome to see how that worked out!
150 yard hit on the melon is impressive!
Thank you!
Came across my feed... this reminds me of when I started watching demo ranch and Kentucky ballistics back in the day.. good content keep it up.. i look forward to seeing how far ya go with that amazing cannon 😊
Thank you! Me too! I have no idea where we’re gonna end up but it’s been fun so far!
@@TheCannoneer since you did the pirate ammo... have you considered 3d printing a shot canister and filling it with stuff like nails and other ship board non ammo things to see how they work in a tight situation :) I know it's been done before but I don't know if it's been done with this style of cannon
That 150 yards shot proves that both the cannon and the cannoneer are accurate, congrats on your aim man.
The only thing that prevented the rocket rounds from being laser-like accurate was aerodynamic stability. I wonder if diabolo pellets would be accurate if you stick a rocket motor in the middle.
Thanks! We shall have to find out!
Id love to see some 300-600 yard shots! Black powder PRS shooting
I’ll do my best! I don’t know if we can get out that far at our current range but I’ll see!
Love to see this on "ballistic high speed". You could learn so much. Awesome video
Me too! One day!
I'd like to see snap out fins/wings added to the rocket projectile.
I can make that happen! I hadn’t thought to add a rocket motor to it but now I will for sure!
I admire your field piece. I made and fired a 30mm Parrot mounted to a ship cottage several years ago. Fun, good times.
Oh that also sounds like a fun one to shoot!
Dat shit was tough asf, keep shooting stuff wit yo cannon big man the world needs this.
Hahaha thanks! I’ll do my best!
My UA-cam algorithm is back on track it seems. So now I'm gifted with a channel devoted to the cannon? I'm here for all of it.
Much appreciated!
Feral hog problems require well-regulated solutions. Arm up and solve often. Be the consequences you want to see in this world! 🌈⭐️
"Real men despise battle, but will never run from it." - George Washington
My gracious!!! That would really do the job on whitetail deer!!! For that matter it’d work on alligators, etc.!!!
I’d really like to try that one day if the channel gets big enough and people might like it. I think if we presight and use an instant fuse inside of a blind we could potentially harvest an animal with it. I don’t know how that would go over UA-cam wise though!
Debone a deer at 300yards.
look up "buckstix mountain howitzer"
Now that's just silly. I should hope no one ever tries that
I mean I'm not saying you're not right but but...
Cool! A chrono and a high speed camera would be great additions!
Saving up for both!
The detail on that carriage is impressive.
Thank you!
I was admiring the carriage as well.
I tend to be mostly anti-troop, so grapeshot, canister, flechette, and then maybe a "micro-APFSDS" for high velocity anti-melon maneuvers. It's be cool to see the muzzle velocity of these as well.
Flechettes are about to get filmed!
They don't fly straight at all
Duh! They have neither fins nor rotation, let alone gas detectors
Aint no more Jehovah's witnesses knock'n on his door!!
They flew pretty straight for just the cone and engine maybe you could add little fins to it or make the cone with grooves in it to help with spin or add a ring at the base where the engine it so it'd work like a tank round
I’ve got some pop out fin versions I’ll have to try out one of these days!
You should make 3d printed projectile with foldable fins.
I’ve got a version that I’m printing up to try out!
bloody hell, never thought 37mm could be this devastating.
They basically only used this size cannon for anti personal loaded with canister shot. They will wreck anything they hit.
set and elecctric match in the rocket motor. Ignite the match, that will ignite the motor which will then ignite the cannon charge.
Oh I’ll have to try that! I’d be worried it would burn up the ignition wires though!
sleeping dictionary movie didnt they shoot connon of coins into the forest for kids to pick up ??
I’ve never seen that one but I do need to shoot some coins out of it one of these days!
Is there any place i could send you 3d printfiles for future ideas? I have some other rocket related designs i would to see you try (i just have some more testing i need to do)
For sure! Thecannoneer@yahoo.com
Send them on over!
@@TheCannoneer thanks
Great video, where are you buying your powder? I've been looking for a good deal but things are getting pricey. Have an 1841 6 pounder myself that eats a lot of powder. Love the idea of 3d printing shells! Going to try that here too.
I think we’re getting it from Graff and Sons atm. I’m about to ask them if they will be a channel sponsor. I’m jealous of that 6 pound gun!
Why not use modern smokeless powder so you can see the shell travel?
Good question! Sadly the pressure differences between smokeless and black powder is drastically different and our cannon isn’t proofed for smokeless so that’s a bit of a mystery on the safety aspect. Second, if we start shooting smokeless the ATF might get involved as only black powder cannons aren’t regulated in the USA. Just trying to play it as safe as possible! Good question!
Why you might ask. Merica, that's why !!!
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I wish I had a cannon. I wish I had lots of cannons. I assume there are guys who have collections of cannons.
There are…. I’m jealous of that.
Same here I want one too, but I would weld some steel pipes together and have a primer ignition.
One thing I've noticed is all the smoke when you shoot. That means your using too much powder. I've been shooting a Muzzle Loading .50 caliber Hawken Rifle since the late 70's, and I've come to realize that you should use just enough powder to get your shot to the target. These days, I just just enough, and all I get is a little puff of smoke when I shoot. Also if your not going to use rocket motored rounds. Try using an over powder wad. It will make a better gas seal, so your powder will burn mostly in the barrel. Just my two cents worth.
I’ll play around with it and see what we can get away with!
You need to redesign your projectile so it is Boat Tail shaped, like the .50 Browning MG round. Also make it longer and cut rifling grooves in it, like a "Rifled" Shotgun slug. Also is you can, make your projectile out of something heavier.
There’s sooo many possibilities that I know we will have some revisiting the future with these ideas!
Another awesome video man keep doing what you're doing! I mean eventually you'll be creating new classifications federal law regarding cannons and 3D printed projectiles. That or you'll get get recruited by Raytheon haha 😆. Love it keep safe and keep killing it!
Thanks! As long as it’s not the ATF calling I’m fine with whatever happens!
ever thought about making a 3D printed APCR or APDS round? e.g. round with a 15 mm 90-100% fill core and an outer casing with less filling, just like APCR rounds, or a small 10-15 mm 100% fill penetrator with a lower fill 3/4 piece sabot? it could be interesting to see if it's actually viable, or even if you could replace the cores with metal ones and make semi-3d printed APCR and APDS
Our next video is going to be the FSDS sabot penetrators rounds but I’ve got some work to do on them still!
Now this is my kind of autism. Hell yeah.
Appreciated!
Adding a rocket to a cannon projectile feels kind of like eating a bread sandwich
At what point do the rounds need NFA registration or otherwise fall under the ATF's eye of Sauron? I'm sure you're on top of that but it always makes me antsy, what with their capricious nature and all. I'd want a lawyer on speed dial just in case
From what I can tell as long as the cannon itself sets off the rockets, not the other way around, it’s good to go. I think I can get away with explosive cannonballs the same way but I don’t think I’m going to push that one!
…at this point, I’m not even gonna bother asking why this showed up in my recommended videos. The UA-cam algorithm works in mysterious ways and I’ve passed the point where asking “how is this in my feed” will net me anything other than screaming from beyond the void. I’m just gonna sit back and enjoy the sheer absurdity of a guy shooting a *personal cannon* out on a range. I can just imagine the giddy little smirk on the ATF officer’s face when they gave you the all clear to purchase your cannon; probably made their day!
Now with that outta the way, I’m probably not the only one who noticed the shells key-holing like nobody’s business at round-abouts 150 yards; I’m guessing that’s probably their maximum range (even with the rocket motor) without you having to design some sorta discarding sabot or other such stabilizing mechanism for them. I also noticed that the rockets probably burned out around that distance as well.
I got two questions for ya:
1. Would a discarding sabot even work with your setup?
2. What brand of hobby rocket are you using? (I’m asking because certain brands might be better suited for your endeavors in regards to distance, burn control and burn time)
Hahaha actually we made it and that’s totally legal and the ATF doesn’t consider black powder mussel loading cannons as anything at all other than antiques haha.
Oh for sure. They need a bit of rifling added to them. As for the rocket motor I think it was estes. Just what they had at the store.
RIP tripod. Tripod was a real one. Unfortunately all the unauthorized rocket violence plaguing the young tipods took him too soon.
Insert momma tripod waling- "muh baby was a good boy, loved skew-gibbs me dat check"
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Impressive. Well done
Thanks!
Dude.. besides the lack of fins to keep the projectile from tumbling and key-holing .. except for the ball shot.. How about a carriage that can elevate to like 80* and shooting out fireworks (for the 4th of July)... Try a rocket with fins and a Diabolo shape
I’ve got some fun ideas for fireworks, hopefully they work out!
id love to see the rounds after they've been shot if you're able to find them. Love the vid!
Never watched a cannon fire. Anyone know the ball weight, estimated fps, and approximate ft lbs of energy @ 100 yards? Im sure one would probably get an idea if his powder charge is known? Ive never thought much about these lead balls until i watched the melon @ 100.
God rest those soldiers of old that faced these things. Thats nightmare fuel.
Ball is 10oz, 400g powder but idk the speed or energy!
Im wondering if it stays stabilized at distance as your gun is most likely smoothbore. I see room for fin stablization experaments. However u would need a thick base plate at bottom of fins that falls away. One mustn't have air space in the powder. In my rifled 40mm guns 30 carb tracers were installed. In the 3" guns i used 50cal tracers. Also put 50cal incendairys in the noses in both sizes but havent fired those yet😊
I’ve got a pop out fin version I just finished! I’ll have to look into adding some bullets to the tips of projectiles too but I’m not very good at modeling things just yet.
Very impressive! I heard you say you normally load the cannon with 400 grains. When you shot the rocket rounds did you reduce load? I found with musket size rounds (.75 cal) I’m able to reduce the power load by almost half and aim slightly lower, like you saw during shooting they like to rise up from the rocket. I would also recommend putting something flammable that burns hot into the rocket (when I was doing testing a small piece of magnesium was enough to help the rocket go off earlier)
Overall great video, great to see the rocket round idea at a massive scale as this.
We did not. I actually thought about that last night so that will be some things we need to try if we revisit it! Thanks for the ideas!
Have you use copper pipe filled with lead?
Your Canon is larger. I made a steel Canon with a one inch bore. My favorite round is a thin plastic container filled with a 50/50 mix of lead shot and plaster of Paris. Makes a white cloud when it smacks a wall. Still don't know the full range of the Canon.
Oh one more thing. Put vernier sights on . That you can remove before touch off.
Oh that sounds like a fun round to shoot! We’re about to super super upgrade our sights so I’ll probably make a video about it haha.
Holy crap i got 2 ads on this video, when the title has all of the no-no words.
On a channel i've never seen before?
On the first 3 lines of my home page?
Is nature healing?
🤣😂 one can only hope!
Congrats from East TN! The Army (aka the good Army), had a fort on the mountain by my house and would use similar cannons to pound “Northern Aggressors” coming up the old copper road after leaving Chattanooga… good times😉
That’s what those smaller cannons are perfect for!
Dr Gerald Bull beat you to that idea decades ago. It's called a base- bleed shell.
Looks like you may be shooting in a park of some kind. I like target shooting myself but safety is the first concern. You must always know what's downrange beyond your target. Have you insured there's no chance of people being in those woods behind that target. I mean do you KNOW without a doubt the area is clear? If not you're risking killing someone out hiking, mushroom hunting or just enjoying the forest. I think you should make damn sure the area downrange is clear by scouting it out before hand. Use a bullhorn or speaker like a legitimate range to announce the danger and or send a drone up to scout for anyone who could be downrange, and that includes a wide fan left and right of the intended line of fire to account for projectile deflection. If all this safety talk irritates you and you're not willing to take such precautions then you should take that rig to a legitimate range with a high berm for a backstop. Glad you're having fun..just be responsible.
100% valid concern! We’re shooting on a 300 acre property that’s for private use only and right behind the tree line is a giant hillside that catches anything that’s fired in that direction. You’ll see us shooting there a bunch of times as that entire part of the property is in a bowl surrounded by hills and cliffs. We do however have another range that has big burms that we can shoot at however it’s much further away.
Thats why you affix (glue, bolt and weld) core components in projectiles, if you dont typically it separates @1:56 freeze frame, im fairly certain the rocket motor took out your camera...
I’ll have to try that next time we shoot some rocket stuff! A viewer sent me a gyrojet shell he designed for the cannon so that will be super fun!
Wow!
I first was.thinking that is a little cannon.... But wow what a punch!
Gives me a whole new perspective on cannons and their power!
Amazing to see! That you!
It surprises me every time how something so “small” can be so destructive. Those larger guns must be devastating.
Very interesting. Incredibly cool, as always. Thanks for posting.
Thanks! This was one of my favorites so far!
The more pertinent question is how much of the velocity of those rounds was generated by the gun powder in the cannon, and did the rocket motor actually provide any additional velocity? Shooting home made projectiles may be fun,but for what purpose other than to make noise and hopefully hit something other than a hillside. A real test would be to take the cannon out to a longer range ( professional) and fire rounds without the rocket, and then fire them with the rocket. Is there a difference? It’s clear the rocket motors are lit, but I doubt they’re adding anything but a tracer burn.
I wish we had like a mile range to test out and see how far they shot with the rocket motors included.
Considered a discarding sabot around a finned projectile yet? Seems to work fine for actual factual smoothbore MBT munitions.
That’s actually the next video. Although they need a bit of a redesign but for a prototype they seemed to do ok!
ATC - OH NO they can print ghost guns!
Meanwhile: Why shoot bullets when you can shoot tank rounds for only a fraction the cost!
Exactly!!! You understand this!
I wonder what might happen if you hollowed out the nose of the rocket rounds enough to inset and glue on a ball for a slightly smaller cannon, if there is such a thing. To make the rocket round nose-heavy. Maybe also make it longer so that a combination of momentum in the nose drag on the tail can stabilize the round before the rocket engages. But I'm just spitballing.
I know exactly what you’re getting at! I will have to give that a shot 🥁 when we revisit these.
My god! Those cannons musta been a scary thing to stare down in a battle. Those projectiles are 3d printed ffs and it's tearing though that metal like it's paper! You need to make the up some grapeshot and canister shots. Don't forget marbles are round 😉 or even better a crystal ball 😂
We actually did an episode on grape shot with the marbles! Would not want to get his by those at all!
Seems like you should reach out to Ballistic Highspeed and see if they would be interested in filming the rocket motor rounds at 100k plus frames!!
I will!
Those rocket rounds are dope. Looks like it might be keyholing a little. Maybe have a little sabot housing attached? Or gyro holes, like the gyrojet rounds.
I just had a viewer send me a gyrojet shell so that’s on the docket!
Cool to own your own cannon, but the idea of a high velocity projectile just flying off into the woods is not a good idea.
You don't know 100 percent of the time when someone is back there or not, nor do you know exactly where that thing is impacting.
It’s a 300 acre range that we’re shooting at and there a big hillside behind the tree line which is why we’re shooting in that location. It’s also a private range so we’re the only people there at the shooting time. Doing our very very best to be as safe as possible!
You could make a hollow space in the head of the rocket, fill it with flash powder and cap it off with a 209 shotgun primer. Taofledermaus did something similar with 12 gage slugs. 1.5 bore is big enough for a significant payload.
That would be a super fun one! I’ll have to find a longer range to test it out though!
Be careful, even though the cannon isn't a destructive device, once loaded with an exploding projectile, it most certainly becomes one legally
@@zebdeming Since it doesn't fire fixed ammunition, the cannon wouldn't be considered a DD, but exploding projectiles likely would be. There are channel creators who have the proper licensing to make such things, so a collab with one of them would be the simple way to accomplish such a video without risking either life and limb or running afoul of the alphabet agencies who regulate such things. Still probably get you on a list though. ;-)
3D printed guns, now 3D printed Cannon shells and rockets. 3D printed ballistic missile next?
I’m thinking about printing a cannon and seeing what we can get out of it. I think you could easily do maybe a small like 30 cal cannon if it’s think enough.
Yo, how many grams of powder is used? And what is the composition or brand. Very much like to know the cannon ball weight and the velocity.
M o r t o r. assisted rocket launch with on board camera ?? ❤❤
We’re shooting goes cannon grain at the moment. 400g for the standard shot but it’s proofed up to 1200g and the lead cannonballs weight about 10oz. I’ve got to get the camera on the ramrod one of these days. It will be super cool to see that point of view.
That didn't work at all... the rocket motor came out because there was nothing to hold it in. That round is going from 0 to 1200 feet per second it's staying still and the round is leaving the barrel.
I’ll have to get the Slowmo guys over one day and give it a revisit!
Hey just found your channel today, have you thought about 3d printing a laser bore sight?
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2 questions. Is the bore of the cannon over 1 inch? Is that considered a destructive device by the ATF? Friend was looking at a small cannon but doesn't want anything that needs to be registered.
It’s 1.5” but anything that’s considered a black powder muzzle loading cannon, even if it’s modern made, no matter the size of the bore, is exempt from those regulations.
If it’s a breach loader, even if it doesn’t use shells, then they fall into those regulations. That’s my understanding at least as I read those laws. You can buy those big bore civil war guns online all day long if you have enough $$. One day we will have one if the channel gets big enough!
@@TheCannoneer thanks, ill let him know.
‘Seems’ like a nice young man…..does he have a hobby apart from 3dprinting anti tank shells?
Quite a few although this one is probably the most fun!
I've launched a lot of model rockets so I doubted any would light, the one that did suprised me. Basically a hot ember needs to make it up into the engines nozzle, you should play the lottery lol
I wasn’t quite sure what would happen with any of them but the amount of sparks that fly out of the cannon if you just touch it off without a projectile is crazy!
Lighting the rocket with the regular electric igniter should be able to light the powder I would think. If you can route the wire through the touch hole. Not that it matters. I'm sure that little C6 has puny energy compared to the powder charge.
I’m just shocked it set it off and they sort of worked well! I’ll have to try a different method if we revisit this one!
Those rockets into the woods look like an excellent way to start a forest fire. :)
Very true! We’ve always got a fire extinguisher on hand!
Now make one with angles rocket nozzles to impart a spin. 38 mm Gyrojet rounds.
Already got one printed I just haven’t shot it yet! One of the viewers sent it to me!
Hey High Speed Ballistics, slowmo guys... Are y'all watching this?
I sure hope so! When we get a bit bigger I’ll reach out to them 100%.
Would be nice to see if the rocket ignition added velocity and by how much, before loosing trajectory. Great vid
I’ll see if we can test that out one of these days!
Imagine that being someone’s head in the war of independence. Both sides suffered horrific injuries and slow painful deaths from infection.
Oh yeah that would not be a fun time. I need to get a ballistics head!
Doesn't the rocket propelled projectile make your cannon a destructive device under the NFA?
Technically since the cannon itself sets off the charge and not the other then no. The same applies to explosive cannonballs oddly enough although those are super dangerous. If the cannon lights the fuse, and it’s a black powder muzzle loading cannon, you’re good to go. Good question. I researched a bit before this one!