Shooting Gyro Jet Cannon Shells

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024

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  • @TheCannoneer
    @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +25

    What would you like to see us shoot next?

    • @coolcat498
      @coolcat498 Місяць тому +3

      Some more apfsds rounds? You should make the wings out of steel and not plastic so they stay attached

    • @coolcat498
      @coolcat498 Місяць тому +1

      Maybe apcr and apds too

    • @seventeenshaun6424
      @seventeenshaun6424 Місяць тому +1

      Maybe try square projectiles with a spacer behind them ofc

    • @meanman6992
      @meanman6992 Місяць тому +1

      Discarding sabot rounds

    • @hellogoodbye3129
      @hellogoodbye3129 Місяць тому +4

      Could you test penetration into a mock standard civilian home with the cavity space filled with spray foam and pea stone gravel? I think you will be surprised by the high density spray foam at home depot mixed with pea stone rocks.😂🎉 thank you!

  • @notreallymyname3736
    @notreallymyname3736 Місяць тому +37

    My closest local range: "No rapid fire! Approved paper targets only!"
    This guy's range: "Bro, is that an actual canon?! Hell yeah, you shoot all the homemade gyrojet shells you want!"

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +7

      The rangers come and watch sometimes too! We had to make a call to them to be sure it was safe to bring it there and they checked the bylaws and there's no rules about cannons so they were like "bring it on".

    • @notreallymyname3736
      @notreallymyname3736 Місяць тому +3

      @@TheCannoneer that's awesome! Sounds like you have a good organization there!

  • @timothycurvin7670
    @timothycurvin7670 Місяць тому +4

    Could you take a 3d printed design and use it to make a mold for casting lead ones? I bet lead gyro jets would be awesome!

    • @keithjurena9319
      @keithjurena9319 Місяць тому +1

      Entry level model rocket motors are very weak in total impulse. The fuel KNO3-C-S is the same as traditional black powder..
      Gryo Jet ammo uses smokeless, rumored to have been 16" battleship surplus which had been machined down to fit.
      A solid lead projectile would hardly see any benefit.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      We actually just got a nice metal lathe so now I've got to learn how to use it though but I can hopefully make some nice steel versions and fill it with a real version of solid fuel and see what happens!

  • @P_Xavier
    @P_Xavier Місяць тому +2

    i love your shirt, where can i buy one?

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      I'm about 95% sure I got it on Amazon. I think it was "WW2 shirts" or something very similar. Both of them.

  • @ludecom-cz1wz
    @ludecom-cz1wz Місяць тому +1

    Tri pod dead, how about the camera?

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      That's the second rocket casualty too... Those cameras are great but not at staying cool. They love to overheat....

  • @cinedelasestrellas
    @cinedelasestrellas Місяць тому +104

    What we learned about the first rocket shells is that the rocket doesn’t develop thrust until the projectile is well down range. If the rockets are supposed to spin the projectile to stabilize it, they would need to get the thing spinning before it leaves the barrel. Since they can’t do that, the shell tumbles upon leaving the barrel, usually ejecting the rocket motors, which then fly off in random directions. However on that one shot, they remained in the shell and the shell happened to be pointing upwards when the spin took effect, causing the shell to rocket off into the sky. This obviously didn’t hit the target but it looked pretty cool anyway. It would be interesting to fire one of these shells in true Gyrojet fashion, where it’s just placed in a tube and the rockets are ignited with no powder charge giving it an any additional push. It wouldn’t go nearly as fast as being shot out of a cannon and it probably would have zero accuracy, but it may put on a good show.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +15

      I'll see if I can work something up like that... I've got an idea or two to see if I can make them work like that but it might just be a shell and a PVC pipe!

    • @darrellbeets7758
      @darrellbeets7758 Місяць тому

      beautiful analasis mate.

    • @r.awilliams9815
      @r.awilliams9815 Місяць тому +13

      @@TheCannoneer I'd try using a small charge of BP to ignite the rocket motors, just enough to bump the projectile out of the barrel.

    • @josephd.5524
      @josephd.5524 Місяць тому +16

      @@TheCannoneer The thing about Gyrojets is that its the rocket motors that are supposed to propel the projectile out of the bore; there isn't supposed to be a primary charge blasting it out of the barrel!
      If you could just ignite the motors instead of treating it like a cannonball I think you'd get a very different result.

    • @durbeshpatel3047
      @durbeshpatel3047 Місяць тому +6

      Yeah it almost looks like the Projectile is separating from the rocket motors and leaving them behind.

  • @kmorris180
    @kmorris180 Місяць тому +26

    That'll teach those dastardly tripods. They'll think twice before attempting to attack again. 😂😂😂

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +5

      You'd think they would know by now! That's the second one the rockets have taken out...

  • @jolt00
    @jolt00 Місяць тому +12

    I shoot at that range every once in a while! Nice place. Maybe we will run across each other one day. Enjoying your channel!

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +2

      Thanks! It's a super nice range and the people there are always super excited to see the cannon too. It's our summer time range so we might run into you!

  • @tramapolean
    @tramapolean Місяць тому +4

    They were rather wild for where they went! Good fun! Tracer rounds or adding tracer line possible?

  • @danosburn80
    @danosburn80 Місяць тому +14

    pretty sure gyro jet rounds didn't have a powder charge to propel them out of the barrel. it would be interesting to see some launched with just the rocket motors, you'd have a hard time lighting them simultaneously though.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Oh yeah totally true. That's just to light the rockets and see if they get some extra boost!

    • @Skwisgar2322
      @Skwisgar2322 Місяць тому +6

      @@TheCannoneer Problem is it was blowing the rockets out of the shell. a much lighter charge, or no charge and ignition with just fuses would have possibly worked better.

    • @User-dc6sm
      @User-dc6sm Місяць тому +2

      @@TheCannoneer you could try loading the gyro jet projectile into a casing. The casing though is not containing any powder but a capacitor bank hooked up to both rockets. Then you cold run the cable connecting the cirquit outside of the fuze hole and just connect it when you want to fire. The cirquit would close lighting both rocket engines at once.

    • @User-dc6sm
      @User-dc6sm Місяць тому +1

      or if you know about electronics you could design a second cirquit in the shell that closes the first via a remote control.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      @@User-dc6sm Oh I'm not that skilled!

  • @davidjernigan8161
    @davidjernigan8161 Місяць тому +12

    Seems like they may be failing at the outer wall of the holes for the rocket motors due to how thin the walls are.

  • @Eluderatnight
    @Eluderatnight Місяць тому +6

    Gyrojets have one "motor" and 4 outlet ports. It appears 1 estes motor lights and not the other.

    • @Ithirahad
      @Ithirahad Місяць тому

      Or the whole round disintegrates and the motors just fly off to the four corners of the Earth.

  • @silvose
    @silvose Місяць тому +4

    Gyrojet shells great idea if they where to be improved on I would mount a single fuel source inside and have the ignited propelant vented through the vents like in the original ammo... also been thinking since my last post to ya bud.... if you wanted to dragons breath I guess it would be a canister shell of lit magnesium but be very careful as it lieks to start fires

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      I'll try to see if I can make something similar in the future of metal as we just got a lathe! I think we could safely shoot that at one place at the range. There's a giant fire pit there. Thanks!

  • @AkkAttack
    @AkkAttack Місяць тому +8

    Hell yeah buddy this one is sweet!

  • @MacksCurley
    @MacksCurley Місяць тому +7

    I like the camera sequences, short sharp and to the point. Looking forward to seeing more flights.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Thank you! I can talk with the best of them so I'm trying to not turn into that channel!

  • @CivilianTactical
    @CivilianTactical Місяць тому +3

    Great video! Let’s see LegoShot…

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      The worlds most painful shot....

  • @eastindiaV
    @eastindiaV Місяць тому +4

    They found a bunch of VOC anti-ship missles from the 1600s in indonesia recently. They have an initial propellant charge that fired them out of the barrel, and then a fuze would trigger the rockets after they left the barrel. They were just canisters i think, no fins or anything
    I think you would just cover the fuze in clay so only the tip ignites

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      I will definitely research that. Thanks!

    • @eastindiaV
      @eastindiaV Місяць тому +1

      @@TheCannoneer look into siege mortars, too. That's ballistics 101

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      @@eastindiaV You got it! We've got a small mortar that I need to get on the channel one of these days.

  • @beanosgaming3738
    @beanosgaming3738 Місяць тому +2

    This may be quite difficult to make for a cannon conventional cannon, but tank cannons can fire fin discarding sabot rounds, some sort of kinetic round with fins that pop out and stabilize the projectile would be quite the sight I would think

  • @ViolentlyAmerican
    @ViolentlyAmerican Місяць тому +3

    at least they looked fun to shoot, but looks like rockets hate cameras

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      100% For sure! They are not tripod friendly. Thanks for the submission!

  • @isickofit
    @isickofit Місяць тому +5

    Would a tracer round be fun?

    • @_muody
      @_muody Місяць тому +1

      They always are :-)

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +2

      For sure! I'll see if I can figure out how to make one!

  • @skipsmoyer4574
    @skipsmoyer4574 Місяць тому +3

    Cannons are for direct fire in this age, howitzer are high angle fire. Since this cannon is recreation of a period piece doubt will go high angle

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      We do have a mortar that would work perfectly for that kind of projectiles! I need to show it on the channel too!

  • @Louis7.62X39
    @Louis7.62X39 4 дні тому +1

    Hy Mr Cannoneer, Major Rodman !
    Your Barrel is sooth or rifled ? Smooth y think .
    You cannot succesfully obtain great results without a good stabilizer with fins around a solid rod rear. Make an angle on the fins to produce a rotary effect.
    A rich man in my country in the last 60's had hit a 2 meters by 2 meters target at 4 Km (2.5 miles ) with plain steel shell fins stabilized, machined for him at high price. The caliber was 20 mm smooth and he fired from the top of a hill on the target on the top of an other hill over the city (!)...
    The lenght of the barrel was around 1 meter , this was a homemade machined cannoon and he was sold 500 € few years ago.
    Y don't bought it because y have some plastic injection press barrels perfectly reamed in strong steel heat threated and in various caliber, the wall thickness is approximately equal to the bore. This will do perfectly the job and y will make my own model in the futur...

  • @Rusty_B_And_The_Gang
    @Rusty_B_And_The_Gang Місяць тому +4

    Science!

  • @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88
    @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 Місяць тому +2

    Dang, I just realized I didn't get notified for your last two videos!! .... YT wtf ...

  • @ianhowick
    @ianhowick Місяць тому +3

    single shot Heavy Bolter

    • @allanjarnagin3540
      @allanjarnagin3540 Місяць тому

      Machine Spirit needs blessing. Where is the techpriest?

  • @hashkangaroo
    @hashkangaroo Місяць тому +2

    Someone took the "nails the neighbor's dog" part of Just As The Founding Fathers Intended just a bit too seriously.

  • @clangerbasher
    @clangerbasher Місяць тому +2

    Further to comments below my first thought was, are you gluing these motors in?
    EDIT: Yes the motors aren't staying in place are they?

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      They are pressed fit. You have to use a rubber hammer to get them in there they are so tight I didn't think it needed glue but next time we play with rockets they will get glued!

  • @PhillipTorrickeBarton
    @PhillipTorrickeBarton Місяць тому +2

    Your powder charge is destroying the 3D printed shells long before they leave the barrel. From the vidoe you can see that you are mostly shooting out the rocket motors and some chunks of plastic. No FDM print will stand up to those Gs of acceleration. Can you do it again but just use the rocket motors to accelerate the plastic body out of the barrel?
    Nice video none the less :D

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks! I'll look into something and see how it goes!

  • @johanpenner2138
    @johanpenner2138 Місяць тому +2

    Ok that very looks cool but the rocket motors are separating from the projectile. Need a re design, but looks fun.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      For sure! I've got a few ideas to work on it and see what I can make happen.

  • @keithjurena9319
    @keithjurena9319 Місяць тому +2

    What kind of elevation can you get? You could loft some fireworks to impressive heights.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +2

      Maybe a good 15-20 degrees out of it but we do have a mortar!

  • @HicSvntDracones
    @HicSvntDracones Місяць тому +1

    Hmm, so using fins to spin-stabilize rocket propelled grenades and etc since WW2 wasn't "just because" :) Yes, this was a real argument, and yes that was what they claimed... Thanks for the video, I have already rubbed it in his face

  • @pops71
    @pops71 Місяць тому +2

    Canfledermaus

  • @BrianMusic12
    @BrianMusic12 Місяць тому +4

    This channel is one of the most worthy of a subscription on youtube. Absolutely love your content. Big booms and big holes 😀

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!

    • @BrianMusic12
      @BrianMusic12 Місяць тому +1

      @@TheCannoneer Black Powder matters ✊️

  • @jamesrose1641
    @jamesrose1641 Місяць тому +10

    I think that third gyro jet is still flying!

  • @3dwrecker_4660
    @3dwrecker_4660 Місяць тому +2

    Would love to see a 3d printed tank round vs some body armour plates (or homemade composite panels)

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +2

      I'm saving up for some! They are on the list though!

  • @markchapman2585
    @markchapman2585 Місяць тому +1

    Great video. Can you shoot a gas lawnmower with 1/2 lb ball. But make shure you take the blade off. Keep up the great content 🍻.

  • @djowen5192
    @djowen5192 Місяць тому +12

    "I just shot a girojet shell"
    "Where did it go?"
    "Everywhere!"

  • @bills6093
    @bills6093 Місяць тому +1

    On the first 50 yard shot, the shell left the two rockets behind. The two rockets just flew downrange by themselves. I think inertia is causing the shell to just leave the rocket motors behind.

  • @dennisk5818
    @dennisk5818 Місяць тому +1

    The engines need to ignite inside the barrel, and just before the canon ignites . a quick match may ignite them, or an igniter that lights from the gunpowder going off, but it will need to be put deep into the rocket motor so it lights the propellant quickly.

  • @brotherswilson6345
    @brotherswilson6345 Місяць тому +1

    What I'm saying is that the acceleration of the the rounds is exceeding the inertia of the rockets

  • @KageShi
    @KageShi Місяць тому +1

    Should have set them electronicly.
    That's how they are intended to be fired by the motors and not a 'booster' charge.

  • @silverblotter4444
    @silverblotter4444 Місяць тому +2

    whats the bore diameter of your cannon?

  • @vapormissile
    @vapormissile Місяць тому +2

    I've seen things called Recoilless Rifles.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      I'm going to make it one. That should be pretty easy!

  • @Salamandra40k
    @Salamandra40k Місяць тому +2

    Bro's giving me ordnance lab vibes

  • @panzerdragoonss4021
    @panzerdragoonss4021 Місяць тому +4

    This is such a cool idea

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Thanks! @violentlyamerican helped us out on this one!

  • @richardsmith3199
    @richardsmith3199 Місяць тому +2

    you will need faster rocket motors and possibly ignite the rockets in the cannon without the charge

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      Im looking into something along those lines!

    • @richardsmith3199
      @richardsmith3199 Місяць тому +1

      @@TheCannoneer i look forward to seeing what you come up with

  • @seldoon_nemar
    @seldoon_nemar Місяць тому +4

    I feel like figureing out how to put propper ignitors into the motors and then letting _them_ set off the charge vs the other way around would probably go a lot better. maybe there's some small gauge wire that can pass though the fuse hole

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +2

      I'll see if I can find anything!

    • @_muody
      @_muody Місяць тому +1

      Not necessarily, since what differentiates rocket from a bomb is the nozzle. If you first start the rockets you effectively eliminate the nozzle (as it's blocked by the main charge), so I'd presume it would just became part of the main charge.

    • @seldoon_nemar
      @seldoon_nemar Місяць тому +2

      @@_muody they are getting ignition from the black powder charge right now, if they are surviving that, they will survive properly starting and then having less pressure differential than normal for their startup phase 😂

    • @_muody
      @_muody Місяць тому

      @@seldoon_nemar But it's not like the black powder is ignited all at once. The projectile will be already in motion and it will be hot gases that will ignite the rockets, which might actually fire already outside of the barrel. If you start the rockets fist, they will build up pressure by themselves when still backed with solid propellant of the main charge. You really don't need much material to contain it and make a firecracker.
      And the other question is - do they really even survive current configuration?

    • @seldoon_nemar
      @seldoon_nemar Місяць тому

      @@_muody depends on how high the black powder spikes the chamber pressure. it's possible that the internal pressure of the motor could support it. The biggest problem is keeping the grain intact. if it internally fractures, it'll run away, or if the cannon chamber pressure spikes the motor pressure, the case will fail, and like you said, pipe bomb.
      My hope is that if the motor is started first, it will be structurally stronger against the blast, as it wont be trying to go THOUGH the motor to light it, it'll be fighting against the thrust

  • @AubreyStJohn3000
    @AubreyStJohn3000 Місяць тому +2

    Awesome!...This NEEDED doing! Co lab with the slow mo guys would be cool.

    • @_muody
      @_muody Місяць тому +1

      Ballistic High-Speed guys would fit better ;-)

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      @@_muody I'll hit them up!

    • @_muody
      @_muody Місяць тому +1

      @@TheCannoneer Fingers crossed! :-D

  • @alw1217
    @alw1217 Місяць тому +3

    Great shot on that camera tripod

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      Those rockets are great at that. That's the second one.

  • @FingerAngle
    @FingerAngle Місяць тому +1

    Hey cool. Just found your channel, and subscribed . I have 3 cannons, but I'm known for my catapults. Check'm out. I've built over 30 of them, and won a bunch of tournaments, and set some records.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      Much appreciated! I will be watching your videos!

  • @tumroTimro
    @tumroTimro Місяць тому +1

    What about UA-cam's new policies? UA-cam really KlLLlNG itself.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      So far we're ok, technically it's not a firearm haha!

  • @slowbro8912
    @slowbro8912 Місяць тому +1

    plane crazy flashbacks

  • @Buttcluck
    @Buttcluck Місяць тому +2

    I can not wait until this channel gets big enough for you to afford some of those fancy cameras! Soon!

  • @wills.9807
    @wills.9807 Місяць тому +1

    Hi!
    I've been watching your channel for a few months and overall I really like the idea.
    I'd like to offer some sincerely friendly observations.
    You've gotten a bit better about this in the past couple of videos, but your introduction (standing by the cannon) has a kind of 'tour guide / flight attendant' vibe. I don't know if that's down to another job or role you play outside the channel? Maybe it's nerves, and who can blame you, it's kind of a stressful position to be in.
    I'd also like to see you make predictions about whether or not a particular projectile will work - or not - based on your own expertise as the guy who owns the cannon. This might help others who'd like to send in an idea, but need a bit more guidance in making a shell that has a chance of working. You could then follow up with a post-mortem on what went right or wrong, as the case may be.
    No matter how you proceed, I'll stick around simply because this is a novel and interesting idea.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      It's job related haha. I'll try to add in some predictions and things next time we film, I'm always looking to improve. Much appreciated and thanks for keeping up with us!

  • @gofoats
    @gofoats Місяць тому +1

    The Gyrojet rounds were fired by a primer, and had 4 nozzles with the propellant in the round. If you had worked up something where the initial powder charge in the cannon fired off the rocket grain that was built in; it might have worked.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      I think that reducing the powder charge will be the best idea on that one!

  • @martin09091989
    @martin09091989 Місяць тому +1

    Looks like the light projectile just gets pushed away from the rocket motors, or totally disintegrates in the barrel!
    Gluing them in and just using very light powder charge might result in more gyro jetting action! 😅

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Next time they are getting glued in! They are so force fit it took a rubber mallet to get them in there so I'm shocked it pulled them out!

  • @timrogers2638
    @timrogers2638 Місяць тому +1

    This gyro-jet projectile was a disaster. Not accurate. Not stable. Not durable. I don't recall him saying it, but it looks like he was using a black powder charge to launch the projectile and at the same time ignite the rocket motors. It seems that the black powder charge ignited the rocket motors, but also disintegrated the 3d-printed projectile. The gyro jet pistol only used the propellant in the projectiles. Perhaps try shooting these without the black powder charge.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      For legal reasons the charge has to set off the rocket. I think reducing the powder charge for just a little ignition and boost might be the key.

  • @Boneyard1
    @Boneyard1 Місяць тому +1

    I'm surprised that wildlife resources was cool with you shooting flaming rocket engines off into the woods....

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      The rangers come and watch sometimes as well. We had to ask permission.

  • @darrellbeets7758
    @darrellbeets7758 Місяць тому +2

    aint no way!!!

  • @mg42lover
    @mg42lover Місяць тому +1

    I’m in Phoenix, Arizona…I wondered what that was spinning overhead at our range! Nice shot!

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Are you sure that wasn't a UFO out there? 👽 I just got an Arizona Blonde Tarantula oddly enough. Do you see them out there much?

  • @OnTheRiver66
    @OnTheRiver66 Місяць тому +1

    That was cool! I’ve been fascinated with the Gyrojet since it first came out. Glad someone is printing these shells.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Thanks! Hopefully we can get a more reliable version with yalls suggestions.

  • @cinemoriahFPV
    @cinemoriahFPV Місяць тому +1

    Why are you using a charge behind the gyrojet?! The gyrojet should propel itself, this is a waste of time.

    • @_muody
      @_muody Місяць тому +2

      Operation of original Gyrojet is quite different than a cannon, and you can't simply emulate one in the other.

  • @michiganengineer8621
    @michiganengineer8621 Місяць тому +1

    A couple of things you could try.
    1. A minimal charge in the cannon, ideally little more than the priming charge you would be touching off with a slow-match. You only want it to flare in the cannon barrel enough to touch off the rocket motors. 1b. Insert a small amount of rocket fuse into the nozzle of the rocket motors, the powder flare should light that fuse and then the motors.
    2. Depending on how large the touch hole is on the cannon, see if you can snake two thin insulated wires into the cannon. Connect those to a pair of electrical igniters for model rockets, then just use a battery to set off the motors.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +2

      I think you're onto it with the reduced charge just to get it to ignite. I"ll try that!

  • @GUE5TPA55
    @GUE5TPA55 Місяць тому +2

    I would very much like to see a "Low buck cannon build"

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      How low buck are we talking? lol

    • @GUE5TPA55
      @GUE5TPA55 Місяць тому +2

      Home Depot or Lowes, maybe Ace hardware

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      @@GUE5TPA55 I'll see what I can do!

  • @janronschke7525
    @janronschke7525 Місяць тому +1

    Someone needs to cast that form in lead.
    Also that distance is propably too short to show the effects when the conditiones for the desired "rocket supported projectile"-effect are finally met by the design of the projectile.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      Oh 100% for sure. The non rocket assisted cannonballs will for forever haha.

  • @metern
    @metern Місяць тому +2

    Not sure if he knows how a Gyro Jet really works.
    You should not have any propellant to fire the shell out. Only the igniting of the rocket engines is the way to "shoot" the shell.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      I do haha It's just a viewer submission design he wanted us to try based on the gyro jet haha. I think if we lowered the powder charge to maybe just ignite the motors we would be on to something.

    • @metern
      @metern Місяць тому +2

      @@TheCannoneer 😉.
      That might work better 😉😂. Have you seen a Gyro Jet pistol in action? It's a weird invention

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      @@metern Oh yeah! Brandon's video was super cool, at least my barrel didn't fly off!

    • @metern
      @metern Місяць тому +2

      @@TheCannoneer That funny as hek 😂

  • @bb1886
    @bb1886 Місяць тому +1

    I think using the rocket propelled cannon projectile you need to ignite the rocket engine first and allow that to touch off the powder.
    That way the rockets are developing thrust as they are being down the barrel, otherwise the rockets take the shell in whatever direction it happens to be pointing in when they ignite.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      From what I've read we have to have the cannon light the projectiles (for legal reasons) but I do think that if we really reduce the powder charge we could be on to something. Just enough powder to light the motors.

  • @maxwellvindman7212
    @maxwellvindman7212 Місяць тому +1

    tech priests be like

  • @12345678907830
    @12345678907830 Місяць тому +1

    I would try these rounds again with less of a power charge, just enough to ignite the rocket motors and push the projectile out the barrel

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      I think you're on to sometime. We will try that next time we get to play with the rockets!

  • @doughudgens9275
    @doughudgens9275 Місяць тому +1

    3d printing may not have the tolerances for accurate flight. They are cool concepts, but not precise enough to hit the target.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +2

      You'd be surprised! We've got a viewer submission that took a 100 yard shot fully intact and hit the target. I found it after the impact and you'll see it in a video soon!

  • @scotttod6954
    @scotttod6954 Місяць тому +2

    Can not say enough about the format of these videos. Hope to see the subscribers double by the end of this month. Everyone remember to like, comment and subscribe.

  • @TacShooter
    @TacShooter Місяць тому +1

    It looks like the shell is leaving the rocket engines behind to go on their own paths? Maybe a screw-on bottom to hold the engines in?

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      I think that or some epoxy might do the trick. It took a rubber mallet to drive them in there so I figured they would be ok!

  • @giggleisraw1154
    @giggleisraw1154 Місяць тому +3

    Get the slow mo guys out

  • @chaptermastertree8214
    @chaptermastertree8214 Місяць тому +1

    BOLTERS BROTHERS

  • @johnpliskin5156
    @johnpliskin5156 Місяць тому +1

    I still don’t think they will fly strait but maybe glue rocket motors in ?

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Next time we play with the rockets for sure! It takes a rubber mallet to hammer them in so I'm surprised that's happening.

  • @NOTSOSLIMJIM
    @NOTSOSLIMJIM Місяць тому +1

    Damn, I'm gonna have to bust out the lathe....

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Hahaha! Glad I could serve as the inspiration!

  • @ethanspaziani1070
    @ethanspaziani1070 Місяць тому +1

    Ayyyy! I am hella happy to see you actually make this video after we talked about it really cool 😎

  • @Threetails
    @Threetails Місяць тому +1

    Well it would get someone's attention. That's about it.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Haha! Sometimes that's all that's needed.

  • @iyaayas200
    @iyaayas200 Місяць тому +1

    i wonder if epoxy would have helped with retention of the rocket motors in the shell

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      100% for sure would help. It took a rubber mallet to get these pressed in there so I figured they would be ok!

  • @adcaptandumvulgus4252
    @adcaptandumvulgus4252 Місяць тому +1

    I bet you that would extend the mortar range for better bombardments, yeah?

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Oh... that's food for thought. We do have a mortar....

  • @ScoutTerr
    @ScoutTerr Місяць тому +2

    Give us a Meat Target in the style of Paul Harrell! I'd suggest stacking two or three of them in a line to see if your cannon would penetrate all the way through. Might lend interesting perspective on cannons used against formations of infantry.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      Ok! Next time we shoot I'll get something for y'all! We're limited in targets and projectiles depending on the range we shoot at! One range has limited targets and the other has limited projectiles! No pointy things since animals.

    • @ScoutTerr
      @ScoutTerr Місяць тому +2

      @@TheCannoneer For those who haven't seen it before the meat target is four T shirts and a piece of scrap leather (as "skin") wrapped around a pork or ham steak (stand in for Pectoral muscle), rack of pork ribs (to simulate ribs), bag of oranges to simulate lung tissue, Ribs on the back, and backed up by a high tech bullet stop made of old folded up fleece blankets.
      Almost all pistol and shotgun rounds stop in the target or in the first layer of the "fleece backstop" but I have no doubt your cannon would blow right through a single target!

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      @@ScoutTerr Thanks for the directions too!

  • @canbrit4621
    @canbrit4621 Місяць тому +1

    Use a set screw system to hold the rockets in place. Or epoxy

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Oh for sure next time we're playing with the rockets. I had to use a rubber mallet to get them in there so they are incredibly tight so I'm surprised they came out like they did.

  • @FloatingCroc
    @FloatingCroc Місяць тому +1

    The enemy would be very pleased to see you pull out a crate of these shells

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Right? The first one goes off and they just keep charging after that....

  • @TheJimbo4123
    @TheJimbo4123 Місяць тому +1

    Need to glue the rocket motors into the projectile

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      For sure! Next time we play with the rockets. It took a rubber mallet to get them in there so I figured they would be ok haha.

  • @vonSchwartzwolfe
    @vonSchwartzwolfe Місяць тому +1

    The rockets are coming out of the shell on firing.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      I'm going to glue them in next time. It took a rubber mallet to hammer them in so I figured they would be fine!

  • @RichardHardslab
    @RichardHardslab Місяць тому +1

    Any idea what material the case was made from? I’d been thinking of doing gyrojet using a resin printer for better surface uniformity, but it’s always good to know what material is holding up

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +2

      It's just PLA. I printed them myself after he sent me the STL. TPU stands up really really well under the pressure of the cannon. I've got another viewer submission that will be coming out that's TPU based.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +2

      We found out TPU worked really well after we'd filmed this one so I'll revisit it in TPU hopefully!

  • @ohheyitsjoshhinac495
    @ohheyitsjoshhinac495 Місяць тому +1

    You need a 6 pounder cannon next that would be awesome

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      100% agree! We're talking about building one if the channel gets big enough!

  • @WillyG27
    @WillyG27 Місяць тому +1

    Dude I hope you get your hands on a high speed camera 🤞

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Me too!! I'm saving for one but it's going to take a bit!

  • @axelhopfinger533
    @axelhopfinger533 Місяць тому +1

    The Codex Astartes approves of this experiment. The results are unsatisfactory though and require more effort.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      It will be refined!

    • @axelhopfinger533
      @axelhopfinger533 Місяць тому +1

      @@TheCannoneer The Emperor looks benevolently at your determined diligence.

  • @pauldockins9635
    @pauldockins9635 Місяць тому +1

    The rockets motors appear to separate from shell.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      They needed a rubber mallet to press fit in there so I'm shocked they came out!

  • @MapleHillMunitions
    @MapleHillMunitions 28 днів тому +1

    I need some artillery...

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  8 днів тому

      Agreed! So sorry for the delayed reply! Idk why UA-cam didn’t seem to show me everyone’s reply!

  • @the_timinator77
    @the_timinator77 Місяць тому +1

    A few more things to iron out, and we'll soon have boltguns for real!!!

  • @NOTSOSLIMJIM
    @NOTSOSLIMJIM Місяць тому +2

    What powder, and grain are you using? I will need to calculate the pressure in the bore so I can figure out the best material to use for a projectile. Thanks.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      We usually shoot 400g but we can go up to 800g for some distance shooting. It tends to drop after 75 feet or so on 400g.

    • @NOTSOSLIMJIM
      @NOTSOSLIMJIM Місяць тому +2

      @@TheCannoneer what brand powder do you use?

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      @@NOTSOSLIMJIM Currently Graff and Sons.

    • @NOTSOSLIMJIM
      @NOTSOSLIMJIM Місяць тому +1

      @@TheCannoneer standard black powder, or pyrodex?

    • @NOTSOSLIMJIM
      @NOTSOSLIMJIM Місяць тому +1

      @TheCannoneer you have to excuse my anal attentiveness, I reload and turn my own projectiles. I tend to over think everything. I'm looking at making some mini APFSDS rounds for you, but need to know the pressure and velocity so I can figure out the band thickness, fin angle, and sabot material.

  • @America_Yea
    @America_Yea Місяць тому +1

    There needs to be enough resistance in the barrel to develop thrust. It's why the gyro jet has to overcome the inverse hammer before it even enters the barrel. The round also needs to be more durable so maybe use the lost pla mathod to cast those shapes in bronze about 23 percent larger then turn em down in a laythe to dimension and use rubber cement to keep the motors in and these would work quite a lot better. If you don't have a laythe you could look up bronze shrinkage and cast the sizes apropriately.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      We actually just got a lathe like last week so I'll be revisiting these I'm sure at some point in metal form haha

    • @America_Yea
      @America_Yea Місяць тому +1

      Honestly with just a laythe you should be able to drill the motor holes too. It's interesting to me that the motors lit off at all which says this has a ton of potential if your cannon is smoothbore this should make for a particularly steady round and proves the viability of the dual phase boltor round from 40k; powder charge followed by rockets to keep velocity at any range.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      ​@@America_Yea We've played with them with just one but I was a bit worried with two trying to get them to go off together. We will get a working prototype of these soon. It's smoothbore btw. They didn't' introduce rifled cannons until the 1850's and our cannon is a revolutionary war "Robinette" style cannon.

  • @schpyakschmyak9821
    @schpyakschmyak9821 Місяць тому +1

    wow! something new )))

  • @ClaytonGambrel
    @ClaytonGambrel Місяць тому +2

    That was great brother, I had a chuckle on the tripod hit thank you I need it

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      Glad I could help! Thats the second one that we've taken down with the rockets....

  • @hessex1899
    @hessex1899 Місяць тому +1

    *subbed 10 seconds in*

  • @daled4191
    @daled4191 Місяць тому +2

    The diabolo shape is the way to go. No need for spin stabilisation

    • @_muody
      @_muody Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, but rockets are fun :-)

    • @daled4191
      @daled4191 Місяць тому +2

      @@_muody but can still be rockets! But can put them straight forward

    • @_muody
      @_muody Місяць тому +1

      @@daled4191 True that :-)

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +1

      I've got a viewer that's sending me a mold for one he made that we will be testing out soon!

    • @daled4191
      @daled4191 Місяць тому +1

      @@TheCannoneer amazing, I hope it works well!

  • @curtshelp6170
    @curtshelp6170 Місяць тому +1

    I'd like to see it operate as the gyro jet did, on rockets alone.

    • @_muody
      @_muody Місяць тому

      That'd tough, since there's no way to vent the gases in a cannon. And if you leave some free space behind the projectile, it all might be inconsistent and/or ineffective.

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому

      I might do PCV pipe tube and see what happens!

  • @simonbach3618
    @simonbach3618 Місяць тому +1

    Are you thinking of getting a bigger bore cannon in the future?

    • @TheCannoneer
      @TheCannoneer  Місяць тому +2

      100% We're either going to build it entirely or buy a barrel and build the carriage but that's the plan!

    • @simonbach3618
      @simonbach3618 Місяць тому +1

      @@TheCannoneer Cool i will be here ;-)