I work in mining and our fleet consists of hilux and rangers. Hilux is the best in terms of durability and reliability by far. We have hilux utes in the fleet with over a million km’s. The rangers are ok up till around the 200-250k kms mark after which they start shitting themselves. We trialled the Amaroks as well, they were a joy to drive. So smooth, great power, great interior and very refined, but they were a disaster in the field. We had brand new units go back to the factory for something broken at only around 20k kms. Not durable at all in the field but excellent for cruising around in. Great video anyway guys, big fan from Australia.
Its good to hear that the Hilux is considered a beast world wide. Its one of the best selling bakkies but its the most hijacked car in crime ridden South Africa
No sure why you say the Ranger is good till around 200-250k, here in Aus they they keep up with the Hilux on average and Ford does not have a class action lawsuit against them for continually making faulty engines...uh hem... Toyota.
So im a farmer I've had many hilux's . My last was a double cab with OME and all the cool extras .. i loved it because it looked amazing and got a great resale when I sold it . But what it lacked surprised me because Toyota have been building hiluxes for a long time and you'd think they'd do R and D . It sucked in dust into the cab badly and still has its engine air intake is still above tbe right front wheel arch which gets dirty very quickly on dirt . Then Covid came along and I bought an amarok for no reason other than i wanted to try one . Well it has AMAZED me . For a company that has only ever made one attempt ever to build a bakkie they a very good job all those many years ago . Firstly the V6 and gearbox is superb . The turbo does kick in a bit higher up than I'd like but when it kicks in , hold on ... The cabin is DUST FREE . Do you hear that Toyota. The air intake is cleverly positioned , to suck clean air from the front and its air filter box has screws not clips to make it completely air and water tight . The interior is huge compared to a hilux and the seats are really comfortable . My wife really disliked the hilux when it came to parking because it turned like a bus . So yes its old and has old tech . But it drives like a car and slays any bakkie on the road . Its embarrassing actually . It also is the only bakkie to have permanent 4×4 and disc brakes all round . Another option is you can choose the three leaf 800kg pack or the 100kg 5 leaf pack . There is also a 1000kg constant load kit for overlanders . No one else has thought of this . Why . Then if you fit the Seikel suspension like I did it competes dynamically off road and on better than anything I've ever driven and my pulse races every time I get in it . Not bad for an old girl . Will i buy another one . YES.
I’ve got a 2.0T 132kw auto Amarok, it does drives Like a car and I average 8L/100km, indeed like a car. The 5 leaf will boost to 1200kg capacity though, and only cost around R1200. I’m in construction. But our next addition is going to be the gwm p series, also disc brake all around. Don’t need any hilux or ranger for carjackings
As long as you don't hold on to that Amarok for too long. And having seen how farmers drive on back roads, its no surprise that you get dust into the intake and into the cab. And I don't even know where farmers are rushing to on those dirt roads because lets be honest, they don't have a business meeting to get to.
One of the most unbiased reviews of this class I’ve seen in a long time. Living in Australia, it’s hard to find a channel not skewed towards the Ranger. Actually, some of the reviews are more like ads or commercials. Reviews here seem to be more about the quality of the car not the overall value of the car in the segment. Anyhow, great review. I know if some people upset Isuzu not here but with Mazda using same platform. no need to have both. Keep it up.
I took delivery of my P-Series 3 weeks ago. I am loving it with the amazing functionalities and interior. Best value for money in the Bakkie market. Nothing to complain about so far.
Loving my P-series! R300k less, yet the most impressive interior. And everyone worried about longevity, it has a 5 year warranty. In Australia it has a 7 year unlimited kilometers warranty! And the lane centre keeping is the best! VALUE FOR MONEY.
And Haval Cape Gate and Helderberg also offer 7 year Unlimited KM warranties (but its exclusive to them) - I think some other dealers offer it too but with an extra 50 000km only
I am not sure about mining conditions. Is is for sure not work horse but you will be comfortable all the way. On the long road this car is so great. Especially with the lane center keeping. Basically drives itself.
Man, I got to say by far this guy is the best narrator car-wise in the world. He really makes you want to listen to every detail than skip through videos, either on older cars or even new makes, one honestly looks forward to what he might say in upcoming models.
"Is the P-Series cheap or are other bakkies too expensive" , there you have it ladies and gentlemen, all other bakkies are too expensive and the P-Series is real value for money, its actually unbelievable what its offering
Until we know the OPEX ( running costs, resale, parts bucket & its real reliability) I won’t say P-series is a winner solemnly based on CAPEXTime will tell, otherwise a nice show-horse bakkie
GWM in my experience have been troublesome and lacking in power. That price makes me worry about build quality I'll stick with the tried and true and wait for long term reviews to come in
@@lloydmwinga5628 family member of mine has an H5 2017. 70 000km on it and it's got a diff whine as well as when the key broke, we couldn't find anyone in Pretoria who even works on GWM. We had to get someone from far away to fix it
I have a P series, Comercial 4x2 version. That was R433k, new! I traded in a Sandero for it, and I could not be happier. It has less features, like no 360° cameras, but still bas reverse camera and sensors. It still has an amazing interior, 6 airbags and powered drivers seat. I personally also think the Commercial looks better with the different headlight design and less chrome!
Great reviews guys. KUDOS👌. I've had a secret crush on the P-Series for almost a year now 😘 I bought a Ford Ranger Thunder(Sea Grey, similar colour to the one being reviewed here) a few weeks ago, I must say it's quite a head-turner 🤌. Drove it from GP to the E.C. over the long weekend for the first time. What an absolutely amazing drive 👌🏿, ride comfort was incredible, radar cruise control and lane departure warning made my drive so easy. I filled up kuGompo (East London) on my way back and got 720 km from my first full tank which finished in Ventersburg. That 10-speed gearbox works wonders coz at 140 kph which was my average speed from E.L. to Ventersburg my rev counter was sitting at 2000 rpm on the climb up from the coast to the inland, I think my overall average fuel consumption for round trip was around 9,6 l/100 km. I bought a city slicker, the car looks great, the only problem is that parking attendants now think I have some gvmnt tender and money to throw at them 😒. I absolutely have no intentions of doing hard off-roading, my car will only see dirt roads 6 times a year at most only when I go home to the E.C. I must say though that the car doesn't like low speeds in the city as it tends to take forever to take off when accelerating gently, however, if you put your foot down hard you won't even feel it move, it delivers that 157 KW immediately. My favourite feature though is the Ford Connect app which allows you to switch the car on remotely as you walk out of the stores, by the time you get to the parking lot the aircon has already been running for a few minutes, this will come in very handy in winter 👌🏿 The only thing I don't understand is how I've found myself in an unintended Ford Ranger vs Hilux rivalry, yerrrr there's always an UNNECESSARY need to WYS a Toyota Hilux for no reason 🤣🤣🤣 Never had these self actualization issues with our good old Landy Disco 4.
I drove the 2005 Ford Ranger for over 10 years and I love it. I've been watching lots of reviews about the new Ranger and how good it is but people always claim reviewers are paid to say good stuff about, however, the number of people who like it is overwhelming. Thank you for sharing your experience with the Thunder... My next new Bakkie is the Ford Ranger... The Hilux and Amarok are good but as a daily driver, I know the Ford is the one
Interesting... enjoy your head turner. I wonder how you never loved the new Toyota Hilux 😀...after its come back. Well, it's a matter of preference i guess.✌🏽👍🏽
@@zuluswazi9470 lol, thanks brother. Most reviews I watched favoured the Ford Ranger in terms of ride comfort and tech gizmoz... Plus a few I saw showed the Hilux has a tougher ride even on tar where I will be driving mostly. I've already put 7000 km in less than 2 months of owning it and I am not regretting a single thing. This past weekend I drove from KZN with the car fully loaded in the bin with tree logs from our forestry project. I even forgot it was loaded, instead the ride comfort improved 50% with the load, performance was just the same on the climb back up.
I agree. This test was based on price, looks, drive and interior. The overall off road capability, performance, strength and durability was not explored (which is why they are build). The Ranger out performs the rest in my opinion and that of a lot of other reviewers. Much more then meets the eye...
P-Series for me! 💪🏾Best Technological Bakkie and Biggest bakkie here. GWM/Haval are starting to fill the streets, they are definitely shaking the market. Some people with Hilux and Rangers already traded in for it,it's just to hard to ignore it's Presence. The H6, H2, Julion and P-Series are showing the other "well known brands" how overpriced they are with less offerings.
@@bonganidavidbaloyi8497 Who owns a bakkie and has never used a tow hitch? Maybe you are confusing bakkie owners with SUV owners. A Fortuner is not a bakkie.
I want a hilux but can only afford a P- Series. For me the Hilux has proven its self over the years and it just does'nt break . If buying Ford new good, Second hand will think about that !!!
I’m currently interested in a X-Rider 4x4. Hearing great things about Isuzus puts me at ease. I bought a 2020 model switch blade silver and I love it. 👌
Thanks for the great review guys! I've been driving Ford Rangers since 2004. Driving my sixth one now since then. Don't think I will ever change brand. Had problems with my 2012 model's gearbox on 104000 km's and ford replaced my gearbox with a brand new one even when it was 1 year out of it's warranty at that time. Took some other bakkies for test drives. Even the Amarok and Hilux, but no thanks. It stays each guy's own choice..... but I will stick to Ford.
But is it safe? what are its NCAP safety ratings? No use getting a good deal when your brand new bakkie folds up like a piece of paper when colliding with a little pizza scooter.
@@LeonSteyn55 good to hear. I have read up a few instances of brake failures in the GWM group or heavy maintenance on brakes. Do you have any concerns on your side and what KMs you on?
@@jcpretorius682 I am on about 10 000km and my brakes are still fine. Very responsive and never let me down. I was at the dealership just the other day and the technician said there it at least still 80% of the brakes left, which is very good for a bakkie of its size. One really has to forget the "old" GWM products when looking at the P-Series - it is something completely different.
I really like the new Navara. I would love a new one but they've become way too expensive. So my 2013 DC is still lugging my Dikgat around and I love it.
Enjoyed the video but please. Pull a trailer with a pallet of cement or something. Check uphill speed, towing abilities etc. Load some tiles on the back for weight and drive them. Do what bakkies are meant to do please please please. Waiting for that review.
All these bakkies will carry what you want them to carry and they are all hugely capable 4x4s. Leisure double cabs are often not used to their full capability and spend most of their life hopping pavements in the city.
None of these are workhorses. Like Gero said, they'll happily do it if needed, but it's not their main purpose. They are closer to the definition of SUVs.
Firstly thank you for the amazing content! I enjoy seeing this channel grow! Me being the owner of the following (conclusion to follow) 2018 - 2019 FORD 3.2 AUTO 4X4 Wildtrack. 2019 - 2019 (2 Months) Ford Raptor 2.0 Auto 4x4 2019 - 2021 Toyota Legend 50 Auto 2021 - Current Toyota Raider 2.8 Auto 4x4. The 2018 Ford Wildtrack 3.2 was amazing coming from the Old 2015 D4D 3.0 4x4 Manual. The Ride was amazing on and off road, then 5 cyl 3.2 was a bit heavy when doing highspeed Gravel roading. Front suspension bottoming out easy. The 6 speed was a prefect fit for that 3.2 Auto. 4x4 engaged easier and faster than any of Toyotas. Being able to engage DiffLock without having to be in 4x4 Low (like Toyota) is bonus for the doughnuts.... sold the car after 60,000km infotainment system broke and they needed to strip the whole dash to have it fixed sold for the Raptor... Raptor Auto 4x4... Short story... BEST ON and OFFROAD ride ever... wana Rump a 4x4 bakkie the Raptor can do it over and over.. double glazed windows keeps all the noise outside the cabin really really comfortable like beter than a Range Rover! But fck!! IS it SLOW.... SO slow I had to sell it. Only did 13 000km on it... a 2015 2.0 auto 4x4 Amarok ran circles around it... sold for Legend 50 Auto. Toyota Legend 50 Auto... Ride not comparable to the Fords, loud engine noise, and yes it doesn's have the fancy Ford features. BUT, long lasting, simple (yes like you said oldish) interior but its BASIC! and Basic works. Cup holders under the air vents. Buttons that'll last a life time. The clack clack clack P , R , N , D/S gearbox makes you know exactly in what gear you are. Toyota resell value and service... kept the car in thr fleet and bought new 2.8 Toyota auto 4x4. 2021 Toyota 2.8 Auto 4x4. The Engine makes the Bakkie so Smooth nearly v6 like, not like that STUPID 10speed Auto in the Ford Raptor. Engin noise noticeably reduced from the 2020 Legend 50. Suspension tweeks improved. Just a appreciated upgrade. What will I buy next... well nothing currently in the market is currently that simple (yes simple and basic sounds scary in a R 760 000) as my 2021 Toyota 2.8. The kids can climb over with muddy feet, smooth/comfortable enough for long trips. Holds value well enough for daily business driving. Ford, yes more comfortable, the new 2.0 10 speed auto is according to me 4 gears to much to handle. Toyota thank you. Great bakkie. Go buy the Toyota Raider. Add 30k of Onca replacement bumpers on, 6k of Escape gear seat covers and you've got yourself a cheaper, better looking bakkie than anything (even the Legend Toyota) with some cash to spare.
Get your arse into gear LOL!!! Great review. Tx guys! My favourite part is at 41 minutes. Oh, and I think the P-Series passenger has 7 air bags, not six (standard in the cheaper LS model as well). Fuel consumption of my LS 2x4 was 9.2l per 100km at the start and is now around 8.4l per 100km 5 months later with the same in town and longer distance mixed driving with a mix of normal and eco drive modes. Sport mode wasn't required yet, but tested it and wow! Peace of mind with the warranty and hope it will prove itself to last longer as I keep my vehicles 10+ years. Awesome vehicle to drive.
It would have been great to have seen a towing test, payload performance and dedicated off road test like other channels do. I know some of the bakkies don't have towbars.
Great review and comparison. In the market for a new bakkie and this was a huge help. Let my Amarok 2.0 4motion bi-tdi go a few years ago and miss it terribly. Amazing machine on and off road. Have to still chuckle at the Ford 2.0Tdi... the Ranger boys never let up with the milk and Tropica chirps to my 2l Rok even though it outperformed my mates Wildtrack (3.2) in most areas - towing, fuel consumption, top end stability and launch. Ranger won inside (rear space and dash). Debating on holding out for a new VW shape (Ranger incl) but that Nissan Pro4X looks incredible. The P series is such great value, Hilux is forever... decisions 😫
Wow I'm sorry I've seen the new P series quite alot of times on the road and for me its the best out of the rest here I'm kind of having and having abit of trust with the Chinese brand such as Haval I love the Jolion and this bakkie is my favourite. Great review guys and the best comparison ever I enjoyed this 👍😀
The ZF gearbox on the P-Series and Amarok really help that engines and have a better reliability. The Toyota might have a short warranty , but it's very cheaper to add the two years unlimited mileage , last was around R8000 for the add-on , and most dealers are really nice and Toyota often does goodwill claims far out of warranty
Lol, so R300k +R8k.....toyota insanely over priced...... also towbar + R6k, bedliner + R5k, leather interior + R10k etc etc etc, you are either an insane stupid moron person or hilux fanboy to buy a hilux......
@@ChrisDied that's my issue with Toyota,PRICE when you do money feature comparison it is not even close to the p series, another frustrating thing is you will feel like you are in a Toyota Cressida at times
@@ChrisDied never said it's worth it , just that it offers an easy extension which being Toyota you won't probably use but can have , unlike the unproven P-Series which still must earn it's reliability badge , back up ability and resale value. You must suck at discussion.
@@joshkomape3407 do like the P-Series a lot , by far better value for money , dealers are stuff with prices and many don't even know the technicalities , Haval in Fourways can't even say if the Jolion is wet or dry dct which is something to worry about as no manufacturer made a reliable dry clutch.
Between 400k to 150k price difference… that GWM (& ditto in the Havals) is so hard to ignore. Are any of these cars REALLY worth that much more!? 5 year warranty definitely helps too! It’s just the ride quality that’s a bit off putting!
Great comparison, P series for me will do, great value for money. Ford and toyota you will never have peace driving those, high risk bakkies. VW is very expensive with less offering other than the horsepower.
@@joshkomape3407 I wanted the PE series but had been holding off for the new bt50 ….very disappointed with bt50 offering. Hilux is king but I can’t lose work due to theft and carjacking. Guess p series it is
I bought the Cannon (P-Series) and find it interesting that for seemingly the same vehicles, there are some bigger differences. For one, our braked towing capacity is listed as 3000 kg while you list it as 2250 kg (same as previous model, the Steed) when the engine and gearbox is the same. Wonder who is wrong. Also, it seems that GWM tyre pressure rating is given at full load. Try to lower the front to 32 and rear to 31 psi, it will make a massive difference how the car drives when not loaded
Its all about reliability for me. Reliability outside of the warranty period. What you dont want is something really big breaking outside the warranty and suddenly its a 100k to replace a turbo and a few pipes ... if gwm proves to be as reliable as hilux/ford then its a no brainer
I'm a diesel technician, and worked in different shops. That 100 k you're talking about just shows how much customers get ripped off. I see it all the time. I replace turbo's all day. There's nothing to it really, besides them sometimes hard to get to. I feel sorry for the general public being ripped off like this. Don't worry, we mechanics on the floor gets just as badly ripped off by our bosses when it comes to money.
There’s no governing body, code of ethics or standard practice or anything like that for mechanics so they just take advantage of people in need. I am sure there are a few good ones out there..
Most of the stuff on the P series is German or American made and the engine was developed in cooperation with Bosch. GWM means business, buying manufacturing plants up all over the world. They have their own space program, so like with anything else, there is some good stuff coming out of the oldest continuous civilization on earth. Guess what was the worst car I have ever owned? A Jeep. I say it is worth a look, what do you have to loose?
I had a 2.0 132 kw Amarok, great vehicle. I am a bit disappointed in the VW/Ford merger and would like to see what comes out in power/price and quality. Time will tell. Thx for your channel-it is good comparisons you make. Well done team👍🏻
Awesome Review! I have a 2018 Ford Ranger 2.2 XLT Auto. I am seriously considering trading it in on the P-Series, considering that warranty, all the tech and that ZF gearbox.
@@WimTheInstigator Join the P-Series unofficial facebook group and ask for a salesperson to assist. The best will assist you immediately. I bought mine in May 2021 and I enjoy driving it every single day.
@@santielaing939 how’s the fuel consumption on it? I walked in to buy one after seeing the disappointing bt50, but when sales told me the load capacity was only 650kg I walked out….I’m in construction so frequently 1t load….but now this video says it’s 1ton…… I was checking the LT model
I crossed a Navarra before in a kind of road, semi paved road with mixt off-road, full of stones buried in the soil, making the ride very bumpy in my Hilux, then I saw the Navarra passing me, like he got really less shaken than me. He was hammering the accelerator, and the suspensions was clearly working well by the movements I observed. So Yeah, the Navarra really look like the best on ride quality.
Can someone please explain to me why Navaras dont come with V6 engines anymore, those were quite fast bakkies at their time, they would be miles ahead of the competitors if they still made them
@@gmf62v84 my dad has the 4.0 v6. Bought it in 2007 and it still drives as fantastically as the day we bought it. I absolutely love the car purely because of the engine
It's all about smaller capacity engines to save the environment. We're seeing the last of the big and great capacity engines. We should enjoy them while we can. Glad I lived through this time. Some magnificent ice engines out there that will be gone forever soon.
Dope review! I believe we would all appreciate it if you could add some weight in the back and compare driving characteristics and how they differ. Much love from Namibia 🇳🇦
Taking everything in consideration I'll be lining up for the Mazda... Seat covers can sort out the leather seat and a bakkie is a bakkie it is not all about how soft it rides on the road it still needs to work... So BT-50 would top the log for me
Ford having a small displacement vs the likes of Mazda and Hilux which have less power, is not always a good thing when it comes to durability. Higher displacement engines, with less power means there's a lot less strain on the engines. They will cruise effortlessly beyond 500 000 km untouched, whilst the smaller displacement, high powered engines might need a few major mechanical surgeries to get to that milestone.
THE FORD AND MAZDA AND NISSAN just stands out. They set the bar very very high in terms of Quality- Efficiency and looks. Add to that great warranties and service plans longer then other well its the winners.
Admittedly, those corny Ranger special editions actually grab my attention, and while watching I imagined the Ranger Thunder would be my choice if I was ever in the market for a bakkie. Then seeing the P Series at the end changed my mind - it just makes far more sense for much less money. I'd much rather be seated inside that than the Ranger thinking to myself how I saved a ton of money. The bad boy Ranger looks aren't worth that extra R280k.
The Amarok with the V6 would be my pick if not for one thing holding me back: no low range or transfer case for offroading and that's actually a big disadvantage when compared with these other 4x4's in terms of control and torque band. In sand it's performs superb but in the bush it actually has a major disadvantage. My pick is the Ranger and I'm very excited for the new one with the V6
@@matbishopsa it's not the same I've tried it out myself. Compared to other 4x4s with LR, you don't have nearly as much control especially when descending
@@vanderz1012 many 4x4 are moving away from low range because modern tech can achieve virtually the same result. Reviews suggest the Amarok is very capable in reality. It has hill descent control for hills also? And a locking rear diff. It's a proper off-roader.
@@ln5747 the thing that an LR transfer case provides is power band and control. For tougher stuff you need to be able to take it very slow and carefully. Amarok gearing is not low enough. But also LR is still very much a thing. All new 4x4s still come with LR. Defender, Wrangler, even the new Amarok now has a LR box shouldn't forget as well that VW officially released the Amarok with an LR option in Australia due to demand
@@vanderz1012 I haven't driven it so can only comment on others reviews. There certainly seems to be many who have claimed it has been fantastic off road. I watched a video recently and a guy who did significant off-roading expeditions said his Amarok was better than his previous Patrol and Landcruiser.
The gwm p series is called a Cannon in Australia but come with 7 years unlimited kms warranty, I thibk the fact we get this and the price, and also how good it drives in addition to the options will make me buy one
Very very informative for those in the Bakkie market... The presenter just does it for me, he hold back sometimes but good job nonetheless. Also, big ups to the crew that shoot amazingly, nice work! Any news as to when we'll be getting electric ones!!
It looks nice, has high tech as standard but the big question is 'How Good it ages?' For the toyota guys that's not a question. I personaly don't trust chinese cars... yes I know it is a stereotype.
Great Video, amazing content. That 40 min went passed very quick🤧😭.. Would have loved to see them do a bit of towing and small small off-roading, just to get a glimpse of their workhorseness and off-road capabilities.. Nevertheless, great film.
Smack some old man emus on any of them and it will solve most of the “giggles”. Yes it’s a 35k upgrade at times but it’s like driving in a cloud and if one of the cheaper options would be you fav if not for the suspension m, it’s a really good option to consider.
Does the Triton not exist in South Africa anymore? you constantly leave it out of your reviews yet it scores within the top three consistently in the majority of the respected Australian reviews.
Did you guys check the tyre pressure on the BT-50? The test drive unit I drove still had 50psi from the factory in Thailand and the showroom didn't care. I had to bring it to a gas station and let all the air out. After that the ride settled down and was ok.
I noted the 2021 South African Car of the year results where the Peugeit 2008 was crowned as winner and the Hilux as first runner up and winner in the double cab category
Thanks team. Great reviews once again. This will help me in my decision moving forward. A tip to consider is to include the video bookmarks on screen also. Descriptions not visibile on android tv while watching.
Wonderful job...let's try the payload test Towing a caravan for about 30kilos...to see and check which engine accepts the load better...which engine is thirsty on fuel and which will handle better with the caravan
Your bedt review yet! Well done! Great level of detail and great customer insights! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 However, I think this review would've been better if you also had the Triton. Otherwise an excellent video!
Awesome review okes👍🏽 coming from owning a couple of Navaras, marginally disappointed with them for not adding height and reach steering wheel. Even a 2010 Polo Vivo 1.4 has that..🤷🏽♂️
Plus.. The 2.3 twin turbo tows a heavy caravan up inclines with no effort at all... No kickbacks from Ford at all,,, not course not!! Ha Nissan Navara best of the lot, and I've had them all!
When it comes to Nissan lack of steering wheel adjustment and that high seating feel i think is a their thing because that is exactly what i have in my Qhashqai
“A$$ into gear” ….lol. Brilliant video . I’d still choose the GWM ! Just curious tho, why not the Mitsubishi Triton on this group ? Would be nice to know ….sometimes…lol.
I work in mining and our fleet consists of hilux and rangers. Hilux is the best in terms of durability and reliability by far. We have hilux utes in the fleet with over a million km’s. The rangers are ok up till around the 200-250k kms mark after which they start shitting themselves. We trialled the Amaroks as well, they were a joy to drive. So smooth, great power, great interior and very refined, but they were a disaster in the field. We had brand new units go back to the factory for something broken at only around 20k kms. Not durable at all in the field but excellent for cruising around in. Great video anyway guys, big fan from Australia.
Its good to hear that the Hilux is considered a beast world wide. Its one of the best selling bakkies but its the most hijacked car in crime ridden South Africa
@@kingkunte5479 That's true. Even the brain dead hijackers know quality, when they see it...
Please forward your message to Scotty Kilmer. He'll say : " I told you so"
No sure why you say the Ranger is good till around 200-250k, here in Aus they they keep up with the Hilux on average and Ford does not have a class action lawsuit against them for continually making faulty engines...uh hem... Toyota.
@@Deatomizer Just passing on my experience with them on a mine mate, I’m sure everyone has different opinions based on their experiences.
Am I really gonna watch 43 mins ? ...Damn right I will💯. You guys have been putting out quality content 🤞
So im a farmer I've had many hilux's . My last was a double cab with OME and all the cool extras .. i loved it because it looked amazing and got a great resale when I sold it . But what it lacked surprised me because Toyota have been building hiluxes for a long time and you'd think they'd do R and D . It sucked in dust into the cab badly and still has its engine air intake is still above tbe right front wheel arch which gets dirty very quickly on dirt . Then Covid came along and I bought an amarok for no reason other than i wanted to try one . Well it has AMAZED me . For a company that has only ever made one attempt ever to build a bakkie they a very good job all those many years ago . Firstly the V6 and gearbox is superb . The turbo does kick in a bit higher up than I'd like but when it kicks in , hold on ... The cabin is DUST FREE . Do you hear that Toyota. The air intake is cleverly positioned , to suck clean air from the front and its air filter box has screws not clips to make it completely air and water tight . The interior is huge compared to a hilux and the seats are really comfortable . My wife really disliked the hilux when it came to parking because it turned like a bus . So yes its old and has old tech . But it drives like a car and slays any bakkie on the road . Its embarrassing actually . It also is the only bakkie to have permanent 4×4 and disc brakes all round . Another option is you can choose the three leaf 800kg pack or the 100kg 5 leaf pack . There is also a 1000kg constant load kit for overlanders . No one else has thought of this . Why . Then if you fit the Seikel suspension like I did it competes dynamically off road and on better than anything I've ever driven and my pulse races every time I get in it . Not bad for an old girl . Will i buy another one . YES.
I’ve got a 2.0T 132kw auto Amarok, it does drives Like a car and I average 8L/100km, indeed like a car. The 5 leaf will boost to 1200kg capacity though, and only cost around R1200. I’m in construction. But our next addition is going to be the gwm p series, also disc brake all around. Don’t need any hilux or ranger for carjackings
P-SERIES also has disc's all round
Which will last you longer tho, people tend to hold onto reliability.
As long as you don't hold on to that Amarok for too long.
And having seen how farmers drive on back roads, its no surprise that you get dust into the intake and into the cab. And I don't even know where farmers are rushing to on those dirt roads because lets be honest, they don't have a business meeting to get to.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior its not like they have speed signs to follow either.
One of the most unbiased reviews of this class I’ve seen in a long time. Living in Australia, it’s hard to find a channel not skewed towards the Ranger. Actually, some of the reviews are more like ads or commercials. Reviews here seem to be more about the quality of the car not the overall value of the car in the segment. Anyhow, great review. I know if some people upset Isuzu not here but with Mazda using same platform. no need to have both. Keep it up.
I took delivery of my P-Series 3 weeks ago. I am loving it with the amazing functionalities and interior. Best value for money in the Bakkie market. Nothing to complain about so far.
How's the car so far?
Still there?
Loving my P-series! R300k less, yet the most impressive interior. And everyone worried about longevity, it has a 5 year warranty. In Australia it has a 7 year unlimited kilometers warranty!
And the lane centre keeping is the best!
VALUE FOR MONEY.
And Haval Cape Gate and Helderberg also offer 7 year Unlimited KM warranties (but its exclusive to them) - I think some other dealers offer it too but with an extra 50 000km only
I am not sure about mining conditions. Is is for sure not work horse but you will be comfortable all the way. On the long road this car is so great. Especially with the lane center keeping. Basically drives itself.
Man, I got to say by far this guy is the best narrator car-wise in the world. He really makes you want to listen to every detail than skip through videos, either on older cars or even new makes, one honestly looks forward to what he might say in upcoming models.
Him and Matt Watson from Carwow. Excellent presenters
"Is the P-Series cheap or are other bakkies too expensive" , there you have it ladies and gentlemen, all other bakkies are too expensive and the P-Series is real value for money, its actually unbelievable what its offering
If you live at the coast, you'll swallow your words, when this rusts into pieces. It's not been galvanised before being painted.
Until we know the OPEX ( running costs, resale, parts bucket & its real reliability) I won’t say P-series is a winner solemnly based on CAPEXTime will tell, otherwise a nice show-horse bakkie
GWM in my experience have been troublesome and lacking in power. That price makes me worry about build quality I'll stick with the tried and true and wait for long term reviews to come in
Talking from experience the gwm is not value for your money, if you fancy becoming best friends with a mechanic
@@lloydmwinga5628 family member of mine has an H5 2017. 70 000km on it and it's got a diff whine as well as when the key broke, we couldn't find anyone in Pretoria who even works on GWM. We had to get someone from far away to fix it
I'm in love with the P-series...the tech on it is really mind blowing
I have a P series, Comercial 4x2 version. That was R433k, new! I traded in a Sandero for it, and I could not be happier. It has less features, like no 360° cameras, but still bas reverse camera and sensors. It still has an amazing interior, 6 airbags and powered drivers seat. I personally also think the Commercial looks better with the different headlight design and less chrome!
ME TOO I GOT P SERIES
Imnand impela
Great reviews guys. KUDOS👌. I've had a secret crush on the P-Series for almost a year now 😘
I bought a Ford Ranger Thunder(Sea Grey, similar colour to the one being reviewed here) a few weeks ago, I must say it's quite a head-turner 🤌. Drove it from GP to the E.C. over the long weekend for the first time. What an absolutely amazing drive 👌🏿, ride comfort was incredible, radar cruise control and lane departure warning made my drive so easy. I filled up kuGompo (East London) on my way back and got 720 km from my first full tank which finished in Ventersburg.
That 10-speed gearbox works wonders coz at 140 kph which was my average speed from E.L. to Ventersburg my rev counter was sitting at 2000 rpm on the climb up from the coast to the inland, I think my overall average fuel consumption for round trip was around 9,6 l/100 km. I bought a city slicker, the car looks great, the only problem is that parking attendants now think I have some gvmnt tender and money to throw at them 😒.
I absolutely have no intentions of doing hard off-roading, my car will only see dirt roads 6 times a year at most only when I go home to the E.C. I must say though that the car doesn't like low speeds in the city as it tends to take forever to take off when accelerating gently, however, if you put your foot down hard you won't even feel it move, it delivers that 157 KW immediately. My favourite feature though is the Ford Connect app which allows you to switch the car on remotely as you walk out of the stores, by the time you get to the parking lot the aircon has already been running for a few minutes, this will come in very handy in winter 👌🏿
The only thing I don't understand is how I've found myself in an unintended Ford Ranger vs Hilux rivalry, yerrrr there's always an UNNECESSARY need to WYS a Toyota Hilux for no reason 🤣🤣🤣 Never had these self actualization issues with our good old Landy Disco 4.
Thanks for the information.... Honestly my favorite bakkie is amarok but it is way too old, I will be stuck between your bakkie and gwm
I drove the 2005 Ford Ranger for over 10 years and I love it. I've been watching lots of reviews about the new Ranger and how good it is but people always claim reviewers are paid to say good stuff about, however, the number of people who like it is overwhelming. Thank you for sharing your experience with the Thunder... My next new Bakkie is the Ford Ranger... The Hilux and Amarok are good but as a daily driver, I know the Ford is the one
Interesting... enjoy your head turner. I wonder how you never loved the new Toyota Hilux 😀...after its come back. Well, it's a matter of preference i guess.✌🏽👍🏽
@@zuluswazi9470 lol, thanks brother. Most reviews I watched favoured the Ford Ranger in terms of ride comfort and tech gizmoz... Plus a few I saw showed the Hilux has a tougher ride even on tar where I will be driving mostly. I've already put 7000 km in less than 2 months of owning it and I am not regretting a single thing. This past weekend I drove from KZN with the car fully loaded in the bin with tree logs from our forestry project. I even forgot it was loaded, instead the ride comfort improved 50% with the load, performance was just the same on the climb back up.
I agree. This test was based on price, looks, drive and interior. The overall off road capability, performance, strength and durability was not explored (which is why they are build). The Ranger out performs the rest in my opinion and that of a lot of other reviewers. Much more then meets the eye...
P-Series for me! 💪🏾Best Technological Bakkie and Biggest bakkie here. GWM/Haval are starting to fill the streets, they are definitely shaking the market. Some people with Hilux and Rangers already traded in for it,it's just to hard to ignore it's Presence. The H6, H2, Julion and P-Series are showing the other "well known brands" how overpriced they are with less offerings.
ja, i noticed the presence of that bakkie now want to trade in my ford ranger indeed
I do believe tow bar should be standard on a bakkie
Tell that to toyota......
Say it louder 'tu'
Manufacturers are also users - they see that most people never use them so the few that really want it can top up for it while they cut costs.
@@bonganidavidbaloyi8497 Who owns a bakkie and has never used a tow hitch?
Maybe you are confusing bakkie owners with SUV owners. A Fortuner is not a bakkie.
Standard on a Pro 4x and 2x
I want a hilux but can only afford a P- Series. For me the Hilux has proven its self over the years and it just does'nt break . If buying Ford new good, Second hand will think about that !!!
The P Series haven't been galvanised before being painted, and will rust into pieces, especially at the coast.
@@BubblesTheCat1 done 30,000 km in 5 month, no problem at all here in Jordan
Isuzus (now Mazda too) have always been known to cruize best on gravel roads. A true bakkie and not a city sleeker like the rest.
I’m currently interested in a X-Rider 4x4. Hearing great things about Isuzus puts me at ease.
I bought a 2020 model switch blade silver and I love it. 👌
Thanks for the great review guys!
I've been driving Ford Rangers since 2004. Driving my sixth one now since then. Don't think I will ever change brand. Had problems with my 2012 model's gearbox on 104000 km's and ford replaced my gearbox with a brand new one even when it was 1 year out of it's warranty at that time. Took some other bakkies for test drives. Even the Amarok and Hilux, but no thanks. It stays each guy's own choice..... but I will stick to Ford.
Great choice, there's no penny pinching in the Ranger, feels very homely inside.
The feeling is mutual 🙌👌
Awesome review but we missing a Triton and Mahindra Karoo S11
CURRENTLY GWM P SERIES IS THE BEST , VALUE FOR PRICE
But is it safe? what are its NCAP safety ratings?
No use getting a good deal when your brand new bakkie folds up like a piece of paper when colliding with a little pizza scooter.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior it's the safest here with 7 airbags, and other safety features
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior it is 5 star rated in Aus
I'm not so sure about that. Too much tech can become a problem in the long run.
Yeah lovely, cheap and Chinese..."awesome" deal🤪🤪🤪
Watched until the end. I think the P- Series is what I can afford 👍 thank you for making it easy for anybody to make an informed decision 😀
If it was not for my wife's brand consciousness I would've bought the P-Series over the Thunder 🤞
Untill you get in an accident.... otherwise you will be fine in the cheap chinese crap....
I own a P-Series and let me tell you, it was not about the cheaper price. It is just that good.
@@LeonSteyn55 good to hear. I have read up a few instances of brake failures in the GWM group or heavy maintenance on brakes. Do you have any concerns on your side and what KMs you on?
@@jcpretorius682 I am on about 10 000km and my brakes are still fine. Very responsive and never let me down. I was at the dealership just the other day and the technician said there it at least still 80% of the brakes left, which is very good for a bakkie of its size. One really has to forget the "old" GWM products when looking at the P-Series - it is something completely different.
I really like the new Navara. I would love a new one but they've become way too expensive. So my 2013 DC is still lugging my Dikgat around and I love it.
Enjoyed the video but please. Pull a trailer with a pallet of cement or something. Check uphill speed, towing abilities etc. Load some tiles on the back for weight and drive them. Do what bakkies are meant to do please please please. Waiting for that review.
Some Aussie channels get into detail like that. It's a huge production effort, though.
All these bakkies will carry what you want them to carry and they are all hugely capable 4x4s. Leisure double cabs are often not used to their full capability and spend most of their life hopping pavements in the city.
Good point made
None of these are workhorses. Like Gero said, they'll happily do it if needed, but it's not their main purpose. They are closer to the definition of SUVs.
For the price difference, you can fix the rise quality with an aftermarket suspension upgrade and still be ahead by a significant margin on the GWM
Firstly thank you for the amazing content! I enjoy seeing this channel grow!
Me being the owner of the following (conclusion to follow)
2018 - 2019 FORD 3.2 AUTO 4X4 Wildtrack.
2019 - 2019 (2 Months) Ford Raptor 2.0 Auto 4x4
2019 - 2021 Toyota Legend 50 Auto
2021 - Current Toyota Raider 2.8 Auto 4x4.
The 2018 Ford Wildtrack 3.2 was amazing coming from the Old 2015 D4D 3.0 4x4 Manual. The Ride was amazing on and off road, then 5 cyl 3.2 was a bit heavy when doing highspeed Gravel roading. Front suspension bottoming out easy. The 6 speed was a prefect fit for that 3.2 Auto. 4x4 engaged easier and faster than any of Toyotas. Being able to engage DiffLock without having to be in 4x4 Low (like Toyota) is bonus for the doughnuts.... sold the car after 60,000km infotainment system broke and they needed to strip the whole dash to have it fixed sold for the Raptor...
Raptor Auto 4x4...
Short story... BEST ON and OFFROAD ride ever... wana Rump a 4x4 bakkie the Raptor can do it over and over.. double glazed windows keeps all the noise outside the cabin really really comfortable like beter than a Range Rover! But fck!! IS it SLOW.... SO slow I had to sell it. Only did 13 000km on it... a 2015 2.0 auto 4x4 Amarok ran circles around it... sold for Legend 50 Auto.
Toyota Legend 50 Auto... Ride not comparable to the Fords, loud engine noise, and yes it doesn's have the fancy Ford features. BUT, long lasting, simple (yes like you said oldish) interior but its BASIC! and Basic works. Cup holders under the air vents. Buttons that'll last a life time. The clack clack clack P , R , N , D/S gearbox makes you know exactly in what gear you are. Toyota resell value and service... kept the car in thr fleet and bought new 2.8 Toyota auto 4x4.
2021 Toyota 2.8 Auto 4x4.
The Engine makes the Bakkie so Smooth nearly v6 like, not like that STUPID 10speed Auto in the Ford Raptor. Engin noise noticeably reduced from the 2020 Legend 50. Suspension tweeks improved. Just a appreciated upgrade.
What will I buy next... well nothing currently in the market is currently that simple (yes simple and basic sounds scary in a R 760 000) as my 2021 Toyota 2.8. The kids can climb over with muddy feet, smooth/comfortable enough for long trips. Holds value well enough for daily business driving.
Ford, yes more comfortable, the new 2.0 10 speed auto is according to me 4 gears to much to handle.
Toyota thank you. Great bakkie.
Go buy the Toyota Raider. Add 30k of Onca replacement bumpers on, 6k of Escape gear seat covers and you've got yourself a cheaper, better looking bakkie than anything (even the Legend Toyota) with some cash to spare.
Get your arse into gear LOL!!! Great review. Tx guys! My favourite part is at 41 minutes. Oh, and I think the P-Series passenger has 7 air bags, not six (standard in the cheaper LS model as well). Fuel consumption of my LS 2x4 was 9.2l per 100km at the start and is now around 8.4l per 100km 5 months later with the same in town and longer distance mixed driving with a mix of normal and eco drive modes. Sport mode wasn't required yet, but tested it and wow! Peace of mind with the warranty and hope it will prove itself to last longer as I keep my vehicles 10+ years. Awesome vehicle to drive.
What a review, a bakkie would frustate me as a daily car. I have test driven the p series they have come a long way.
Lol me too. I have been driving sedans for years now and a bakkie is a bit too busy on the ride side of things....
What's your take after the drive?
Hi from Russia! I live in west siberia. One month ago buy GWM P-series. (GWM Poer in Russia) Thanks for great reviews!
It would have been great to have seen a towing test, payload performance and dedicated off road test like other channels do. I know some of the bakkies don't have towbars.
I wish Isuzu was also included. :( From the above, I think I'll go with the GWM!
Great review and comparison. In the market for a new bakkie and this was a huge help. Let my Amarok 2.0 4motion bi-tdi go a few years ago and miss it terribly. Amazing machine on and off road.
Have to still chuckle at the Ford 2.0Tdi... the Ranger boys never let up with the milk and Tropica chirps to my 2l Rok even though it outperformed my mates Wildtrack (3.2) in most areas - towing, fuel consumption, top end stability and launch. Ranger won inside (rear space and dash).
Debating on holding out for a new VW shape (Ranger incl) but that Nissan Pro4X looks incredible. The P series is such great value, Hilux is forever... decisions 😫
Wow I'm sorry I've seen the new P series quite alot of times on the road and for me its the best out of the rest here I'm kind of having and having abit of trust with the Chinese brand such as Haval I love the Jolion and this bakkie is my favourite. Great review guys and the best comparison ever I enjoyed this 👍😀
Great review. It would be great to see a similar review for Fortuner, Sorento, Everest, Isuzu MU-X and Pajero Sport.
Yeah I agree. That would be great.
Absolutely
I agree
I am fan of Toyota, just curious that Isuzu is missing on the clip
ISUZU Dmax = Mazda BT
The Isuzu is basically a rebadged Mazda BT-50
@@taegansilva1829 It's the other way around
Yeah the Mitsubishi triton too
@@taegansilva1829 the mazda is a rebadged isuzu.
The ZF gearbox on the P-Series and Amarok really help that engines and have a better reliability.
The Toyota might have a short warranty , but it's very cheaper to add the two years unlimited mileage , last was around R8000 for the add-on , and most dealers are really nice and Toyota often does goodwill claims far out of warranty
Lol, so R300k +R8k.....toyota insanely over priced...... also towbar + R6k, bedliner + R5k, leather interior + R10k etc etc etc, you are either an insane stupid moron person or hilux fanboy to buy a hilux......
@@ChrisDied that's my issue with Toyota,PRICE when you do money feature comparison it is not even close to the p series, another frustrating thing is you will feel like you are in a Toyota Cressida at times
@@ChrisDied never said it's worth it , just that it offers an easy extension which being Toyota you won't probably use but can have , unlike the unproven P-Series which still must earn it's reliability badge , back up ability and resale value.
You must suck at discussion.
@@joshkomape3407 do like the P-Series a lot , by far better value for money , dealers are stuff with prices and many don't even know the technicalities , Haval in Fourways can't even say if the Jolion is wet or dry dct which is something to worry about as no manufacturer made a reliable dry clutch.
@@ChrisDied well said chris 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯💯👌🏾
Enjoy the honest reviews. Look forward to each episode..
Between 400k to 150k price difference… that GWM (& ditto in the Havals) is so hard to ignore.
Are any of these cars REALLY worth that much more!? 5 year warranty definitely helps too!
It’s just the ride quality that’s a bit off putting!
Great comparison, P series for me will do, great value for money. Ford and toyota you will never have peace driving those, high risk bakkies. VW is very expensive with less offering other than the horsepower.
True P series is attractive. Ford and Toyota will force you to have a gun.... I'm disappointed with Mazda and navara
@@joshkomape3407 I wanted the PE series but had been holding off for the new bt50 ….very disappointed with bt50 offering. Hilux is king but I can’t lose work due to theft and carjacking. Guess p series it is
I bought the Cannon (P-Series) and find it interesting that for seemingly the same vehicles, there are some bigger differences. For one, our braked towing capacity is listed as 3000 kg while you list it as 2250 kg (same as previous model, the Steed) when the engine and gearbox is the same. Wonder who is wrong. Also, it seems that GWM tyre pressure rating is given at full load. Try to lower the front to 32 and rear to 31 psi, it will make a massive difference how the car drives when not loaded
Its all about reliability for me. Reliability outside of the warranty period. What you dont want is something really big breaking outside the warranty and suddenly its a 100k to replace a turbo and a few pipes ... if gwm proves to be as reliable as hilux/ford then its a no brainer
I'm a diesel technician, and worked in different shops. That 100 k you're talking about just shows how much customers get ripped off. I see it all the time. I replace turbo's all day. There's nothing to it really, besides them sometimes hard to get to. I feel sorry for the general public being ripped off like this. Don't worry, we mechanics on the floor gets just as badly ripped off by our bosses when it comes to money.
There’s no governing body, code of ethics or standard practice or anything like that for mechanics so they just take advantage of people in need. I am sure there are a few good ones out there..
Most of the stuff on the P series is German or American made and the engine was developed in cooperation with Bosch. GWM means business, buying manufacturing plants up all over the world. They have their own space program, so like with anything else, there is some good stuff coming out of the oldest continuous civilization on earth. Guess what was the worst car I have ever owned? A Jeep. I say it is worth a look, what do you have to loose?
I had a 2.0 132 kw Amarok, great vehicle. I am a bit disappointed in the VW/Ford merger and would like to see what comes out in power/price and quality. Time will tell. Thx for your channel-it is good comparisons you make. Well done team👍🏻
Awesome Review!
I have a 2018 Ford Ranger 2.2 XLT Auto.
I am seriously considering trading it in on the P-Series, considering that warranty, all the tech and that ZF gearbox.
Went to test drive one this morning, but unfortunately there was no sales person that assisted us. After waiting for 20mins we eventually left.
@@WimTheInstigator Join the P-Series unofficial facebook group and ask for a salesperson to assist. The best will assist you immediately. I bought mine in May 2021 and I enjoy driving it every single day.
@@WimTheInstigator name and shame!
@@santielaing939 how’s the fuel consumption on it? I walked in to buy one after seeing the disappointing bt50, but when sales told me the load capacity was only 650kg I walked out….I’m in construction so frequently 1t load….but now this video says it’s 1ton…… I was checking the LT model
This is good.. you should do this every year
I crossed a Navarra before in a kind of road, semi paved road with mixt off-road, full of stones buried in the soil, making the ride very bumpy in my Hilux, then I saw the Navarra passing me, like he got really less shaken than me. He was hammering the accelerator, and the suspensions was clearly working well by the movements I observed.
So Yeah, the Navarra really look like the best on ride quality.
Can someone please explain to me why Navaras dont come with V6 engines anymore, those were quite fast bakkies at their time, they would be miles ahead of the competitors if they still made them
Now this guy is asking the real questions! That v6 was good for 175kW and 550Nm 10 years ago.
And had a 4.0 V6 that put out 198kw and 385 nm, really powerful bakkie
It's a big shame they stopped their V6 diesels and petrol. That V9X was a beast!!! Would've been wise to keep it but what do I know...
@@gmf62v84 my dad has the 4.0 v6. Bought it in 2007 and it still drives as fantastically as the day we bought it. I absolutely love the car purely because of the engine
It's all about smaller capacity engines to save the environment. We're seeing the last of the big and great capacity engines. We should enjoy them while we can. Glad I lived through this time. Some magnificent ice engines out there that will be gone forever soon.
Dope review!
I believe we would all appreciate it if you could add some weight in the back and compare driving characteristics and how they differ.
Much love from Namibia 🇳🇦
Impressed by the Haval GWM P Series real value for money
Taking everything in consideration I'll be lining up for the Mazda... Seat covers can sort out the leather seat and a bakkie is a bakkie it is not all about how soft it rides on the road it still needs to work... So BT-50 would top the log for me
The Mazda BT has all the lane assist/ radar cruise control. It’s the most specked out in safety features in this lot.
Ranger has lane keep, radar cruise, Pre collision assist, auto parallel park and much more
I don't agree. Most of these bakkies have those features. Even the p-series has that and more.
Ford having a small displacement vs the likes of Mazda and Hilux which have less power, is not always a good thing when it comes to durability.
Higher displacement engines, with less power means there's a lot less strain on the engines.
They will cruise effortlessly beyond 500 000 km untouched, whilst the smaller displacement, high powered engines might need a few major mechanical surgeries to get to that milestone.
Lockers? 4H and 4L options? Differential gear ratios? Frame types (fully boxed or C type open)?
The p Series has also a 220v plug and have 7 airbags. It weights also heavy 2.1t and have some of the best gearboxes, 4x4 system and airbags.
Not sure if heavy is a good thing?…. But I do remember the sales at gwm Edenvale telling me it’s 7 air bags….. was wondering the same……
Great review! Does VW no longer sell the 2.0 BiTDI that would've been more aligned to this group?
I do believe the Amarok is heavily priced compared to other bakkies, and heat on asses doesn't change gears😂😂😉🤦🏾♂️. Great work guys 👍🏿👍🏿👌🏾
He was referring to the old saying 'get your arse into gear!'
THE FORD AND MAZDA AND NISSAN just stands out. They set the bar very very high in terms of Quality- Efficiency and looks. Add to that great warranties and service plans longer then other well its the winners.
The reason why toyota will always be tops is definitely cause of its reliability and retail value
Admittedly, those corny Ranger special editions actually grab my attention, and while watching I imagined the Ranger Thunder would be my choice if I was ever in the market for a bakkie. Then seeing the P Series at the end changed my mind - it just makes far more sense for much less money. I'd much rather be seated inside that than the Ranger thinking to myself how I saved a ton of money. The bad boy Ranger looks aren't worth that extra R280k.
Ah gosh...you'll go cheap and nasty??😂
@@danielbredenkamp3957 it's not nasty, but GWM has some reliability concerns.
But you're not going to do R400k worth of repairs
The Amarok with the V6 would be my pick if not for one thing holding me back: no low range or transfer case for offroading and that's actually a big disadvantage when compared with these other 4x4's in terms of control and torque band. In sand it's performs superb but in the bush it actually has a major disadvantage. My pick is the Ranger and I'm very excited for the new one with the V6
You think it still needs LR with an 8 speed? I’ve heard the 1st gear is like a crawler gear
@@matbishopsa it's not the same I've tried it out myself. Compared to other 4x4s with LR, you don't have nearly as much control especially when descending
@@vanderz1012 many 4x4 are moving away from low range because modern tech can achieve virtually the same result. Reviews suggest the Amarok is very capable in reality. It has hill descent control for hills also? And a locking rear diff. It's a proper off-roader.
@@ln5747 the thing that an LR transfer case provides is power band and control. For tougher stuff you need to be able to take it very slow and carefully. Amarok gearing is not low enough. But also LR is still very much a thing. All new 4x4s still come with LR. Defender, Wrangler, even the new Amarok now has a LR box shouldn't forget as well that VW officially released the Amarok with an LR option in Australia due to demand
@@vanderz1012 I haven't driven it so can only comment on others reviews. There certainly seems to be many who have claimed it has been fantastic off road. I watched a video recently and a guy who did significant off-roading expeditions said his Amarok was better than his previous Patrol and Landcruiser.
Now onto my second GWM. I can only say how much I love them
The gwm p series is called a Cannon in Australia but come with 7 years unlimited kms warranty, I thibk the fact we get this and the price, and also how good it drives in addition to the options will make me buy one
Very very informative for those in the Bakkie market... The presenter just does it for me, he hold back sometimes but good job nonetheless. Also, big ups to the crew that shoot amazingly, nice work! Any news as to when we'll be getting electric ones!!
I think if south Africans make the change to the p series without guilt toyota would rethink their prices 🤔
It looks nice, has high tech as standard but the big question is 'How Good it ages?' For the toyota guys that's not a question. I personaly don't trust chinese cars... yes I know it is a stereotype.
The reason I always go for the Hilux is that all my friends who’ve had a ranger had engine problems
Good review with some interesting perspectives.
One take away is that tradition is losing ground to newer more innovative offerings…
Great Video, amazing content. That 40 min went passed very quick🤧😭.. Would have loved to see them do a bit of towing and small small off-roading, just to get a glimpse of their workhorseness and off-road capabilities.. Nevertheless, great film.
Amazing review. I think you need a slot on IGNITION. That was an impressive review, no bias and no fovorites. Just telling as it is🙌
👌.. But other bakkies are missing..Isuzu, mercedes?
So GWM suspension tune would make it the winner?
Smack some old man emus on any of them and it will solve most of the “giggles”. Yes it’s a 35k upgrade at times but it’s like driving in a cloud and if one of the cheaper options would be you fav if not for the suspension m, it’s a really good option to consider.
Does the Triton not exist in South Africa anymore? you constantly leave it out of your reviews yet it scores within the top three consistently in the majority of the respected Australian reviews.
Yes it does
Great vid. Sucks you didnt have a triton in that comparo.. test drove the gwm today.. bit sluggish and heavy but that interior is awesome.
Triton is a plastic mess inside. Very similar to the Isuzu
Hoping to see a Haval H6 review from you guys.
Great video 👍
Mate I'm from Australia, love the accent love the reviews. Top job
Hey sir, just curious, living in Australia, have you not heard a white South African accent before?
Looking to buy my first bakkie and that PSeries seems like the perfect fit! Kinda a no brainer if you ask me😁
fyi . .there's a software update for the GWM, and the heated seats "gears" are replaced with high, medium, low 😀
Ford Ranger! 💪🏽
😂😂 Until you call me to pick you up on a rollback broken on the side of the road.
@@nandowzmhlongo not really 😂 I get calls to tow hiluxes stuck on mud and not capable of going out 😂
Ford Ranger tops my list👏👏👏
The GWM is maybe not the best looking, but you'll be hard pushed to find better value for money 🤔
On the face of it GWM is the best value for money . It's longevity is going to be the deciding factor
Did you guys check the tyre pressure on the BT-50? The test drive unit I drove still had 50psi from the factory in Thailand and the showroom didn't care. I had to bring it to a gas station and let all the air out. After that the ride settled down and was ok.
Hello, mr. Sienna
So, which one is the best in terms of driving experience?
Navara, Ranger or Amarok?
Surprisingly I now want the P series…..
For the Navara, the LE seems to be slightly lower spec to the pro4x. It doesn't have the surround camera system
There is only one bakkie here that I would buy .keep the rest and remember never forget everything keeps going right Toyota.
I noted the 2021 South African Car of the year results where the Peugeit 2008 was crowned as winner and the Hilux as first runner up and winner in the double cab category
Thanks team. Great reviews once again. This will help me in my decision moving forward. A tip to consider is to include the video bookmarks on screen also. Descriptions not visibile on android tv while watching.
My BT50 2021 here in NZ has lane keep assist, radar cruise, and all that jazz. You must have an older one.
Wonderful job...let's try the payload test Towing a caravan for about 30kilos...to see and check which engine accepts the load better...which engine is thirsty on fuel and which will handle better with the caravan
I would buy P Series.its a good value for money. Others are just expensive, especially the Amarok. My second option would b the Ranger.
Your bedt review yet! Well done! Great level of detail and great customer insights! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
However, I think this review would've been better if you also had the Triton. Otherwise an excellent video!
lets be fair the NISSAN is the best value and to live with
To live with maybe but in terms of value the P-series trumps it anyday.
@@owethuthwala5997 a Chinese deathtrap
Ranger stands out for me. Wow
i still go for ranger
Awesome review okes👍🏽 coming from owning a couple of Navaras, marginally disappointed with them for not adding height and reach steering wheel. Even a 2010 Polo Vivo 1.4 has that..🤷🏽♂️
Triton Extreme?
Plus.. The 2.3 twin turbo tows a heavy caravan up inclines with no effort at all...
No kickbacks from Ford at all,,, not course not!!
Ha
Nissan Navara best of the lot, and I've had them all!
And your bookmarks are very useful
This was a great Bakkie comparrison...wow I may say! This is good is good
The 3 litre Amarok Is the king of bakkies ...im going to get one someday..even if it will be a Ford Ranger Base..
Why is the Isuzu never included in your reviews
When it comes to Nissan lack of steering wheel adjustment and that high seating feel i think is a their thing because that is exactly what i have in my Qhashqai
Very comprehensive & interesting video guys, congratulations & thank you!
“A$$ into gear” ….lol. Brilliant video . I’d still choose the GWM ! Just curious tho, why not the Mitsubishi Triton on this group ? Would be nice to know ….sometimes…lol.
I'd definitely stay away from the GWM😂😂😂
@@danielbredenkamp3957 why?
@@patlophamotse5836 because he hates chinese with a passion. Racist perhaps….