I have tried on the CTB20 in my local Evergoods stockist shop and i love it. Here are my thoughts. It's the smaller version from the CTB26 in every sense and the amazing thing is Evergoods slightly reduced the height and the width but the depth is more or less the same. I may get the CTB20 hopefully in a different colour when it restocks in October. I still love my CTB26 in OD Green but only for travel use.
Thanks JB. Can’t decide between the CTB20 and CPL16. Just need a grab ‘n go bag to carry edc stuff. Not a work bag and no laptop. I will use it for CCW along with my edc. I guess it will likely come down to which becomes available for purchase first. Hoping for a colab version of CTB20 around the holidays. Thanks for the great content JB.
If you don’t need a laptop, check out the MPL22 (I have mine in ecopak and love it). Has bottle pockets, a few pockets for edc items and a clamshell opening. Plus, no wasted space from a padded laptop compartment.
After picking up the CPL16 the CTB20 came out. At first I was a bit miffed. But the CPL16 works out great as a work/minimal EDC bag, so I don’t know if I need the CTB20 (but I do love that top panel pocket!) I have the PLC20 that I’ll be taken on a cruise as an excursion bag. (You gave me an aha moment when you showed me how the PLC and MPL were of the same design logic, thanks!) I may consider getting the CTB20 for my wife.
@@JasonDranoff-f9c I’m leaning towards having both also. The plus for me is the top pocket and dual water bottle pockets. What’s your immediate need (or want)?
@@rev.dennisp.sepulveda5965 Good question... I don't really NEED the water bottle pocket as my Yetti is leakproof. I leave it at the office all week, so I take it on Mondays and Fridays, so the CPL 16 is prob the best fit. Other than the top pocket, they are VERY similar and I do like the sleekness of the Cpl 16.. IDK I think I will buy both.....
@@JasonDranoff-f9c that’ll make the two of us. One thing I didn’t mention, the CPL16 is a thin bag. I have to work the zipper to pack my CAP2L inside if it.
Oh! Good question. I thought about mentioning that. Too big to sit on top of the spinner for work travel. It’s even a little tall for hanging on the front. Still awesome
@@JBOutside1 I ordered 1 last week when there was low stock that must’ve been a return cause it showed up Wednesday without the QAP. Then they restocked this week supposedly with it. So I returned the one I had, and ordered 2 more on 2 separate orders just in case. Huckberry’s CS and returns are amazing.
@@michaeldegregory4674 That's awesome and I'm glad they helped you out. The new batch does have the QAP but they had a few of the old stock still and they got mixed in somehow...they figured it out though and are getting it sorted out. I'm sure they'll help whoever gets the wrong one. I have one on the say for a video.
@@JBOutside1would be really curious to know how the QAP sizes on the new slicks compare to the QAPs they put on the ultra GR1 - did they bump up the size at all? How do they compare with the DC18L QAP?
Hmm, I’ve been using the CTB20 for the last few weeks as my travel pilot bag. The CPL is a quick grab and go option daily…so both? Edge to CTB to though
Got the Cpl 24 after you recommended it great bag love it. Thank you. Would like a little more room I’m thinking of getting ctb 26 griffin edition. I’ve never had a waxed canvas bag any disadvantages? Also I’m really liking the phoenix edition. What would you recommend wait and see if phoenix is released again or jump on the griffin edition? This would be every day bag.
The CTB26 is my favorite travel bag and also it's great for larger EDC needs. PHX2 is my current favorite but I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the griffin edition...I'm predicting it's a grand slam homerun lifetime keeper if it's half as good as it looks in photos...I'd pick that up now since it's available
3+ lbs with ok straps on the ctb20 is a no go for edc for me. Might work for a short trip but these heavy edc minus a few exceptions don’t work long term as an edc.
yea, heavy + fat. never been a fan. Ive come to realize I cant do gorucks, they dont work for me, although cool. evergoods is also on that list for me, BUTTTTT, im trying the cpl16 AGAIN, to see if i can make 1 EG bag work lol.
@JBOutside1 ive heard you say that a lot JB, which I get where your coming from. but when I pack into a 2.2lb bag, then transfer into say a canvas bag same size and its 4.3lbs, its not about like... carrying an extra 2ish lbs, for me its a noticeable difference when it hits the back. like that moment of "wow" happens and so for me thats why the weight is a thing. I dont think from 2lbs to 2.5 is a thing, but if bags are 2ish lbs, then you go into 4.5lbs, I feel like I 10000% FEEEEEEL the difference for sure.
Chairman, great vid for a great pack. Does this version still have the gaps on each side of the top handle? My Jeep diaper bag gave out after some major mileage. And I was thinking I could Jerry rig the two stroller straps through those gaps and onto the stroller handle (hope that made sense haha).
I have a CPL24 (v3 mirror) and OD-green. Also Goruck Samurai and DC18 Kaidan. And several others. I found myself always coming back to the basic black CPL24. It’s just so convenient and blend into everything nicely. That being said, I’m shopping and struggling to find a travel bag. CPL is nice but no luggage pass through. Any recommendations?
Great channel! I sent Evergoods an email on 6-25-24 and they said they would be replenishing stock in the fall. Meanwhile I ordered a Able Cary Daily Plus that ties down and works well with my HD Softail Passenger seat. I have passenger grab rails under the passenger seat so I tie down to that and tie back to the backrest. I notice you also use that bag when riding your motorcycle but it appears you wear yours while riding. What kind of motorcycle do you ride?
I wouldn't necessarily say it's better. I do like the front organization of the Whitley and that may work best for you. I've found that when I put the CTB20 on its side on top of my rolling bag I really like the access to all the pockets.
I thought we gave you the summer off! The Russian Doll gag was fun. It could also be a Goldilocks moment: too big, too small, just right. Pace yourself mister, Nawlins looked like fun.
I know a 1L Nalgene will fit but quite snug. I’m out on a trip this week so it’ll be a few days before I can test others. But to be honest the 18oz yeti fits perfect yet snug so wouldn’t plan to use anything larger than that routinely
I can fit my 1 liter Yeti Yonder (non insulated) bottle with no issues. It is snug though! I regularly keep my Owala 24oz insulated bottle in my CTB20.
Yo, the pockets on the outside, especially the one by the handle, are kinda weird. It's like they defeat the whole purpose of having a handle. Thanks JB, informative with plenty of poijts to ponder.
Finally the CTB20 from JB
Thanks for waiting!
I have tried on the CTB20 in my local Evergoods stockist shop and i love it. Here are my thoughts. It's the smaller version from the CTB26 in every sense and the amazing thing is Evergoods slightly reduced the height and the width but the depth is more or less the same. I may get the CTB20 hopefully in a different colour when it restocks in October. I still love my CTB26 in OD Green but only for travel use.
Refreshing UA-cam finally worked
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Holy hidden strap keepers!!! Also on my ~2 year old CPL28 that I haven't realized until now. Nice! Thanks!
You bet!
Awesome video, as always. Thanks, JB!! 👍👍👋👋
Glad you enjoyed it
is it me? or should all these backpack reviewers should wear them to show the size?
Only if they ALSO tell you their size 😜
Thanks JB. Can’t decide between the CTB20 and CPL16. Just need a grab ‘n go bag to carry edc stuff. Not a work bag and no laptop. I will use it for CCW along with my edc. I guess it will likely come down to which becomes available for purchase first. Hoping for a colab version of CTB20 around the holidays. Thanks for the great content JB.
I use the CPL16 for that mode...I like the smaller size and slimmer carry. But if you need water bottle pockets then you need the CTB
If you don’t need a laptop, check out the MPL22 (I have mine in ecopak and love it). Has bottle pockets, a few pockets for edc items and a clamshell opening. Plus, no wasted space from a padded laptop compartment.
After picking up the CPL16 the CTB20 came out. At first I was a bit miffed. But the CPL16 works out great as a work/minimal EDC bag, so I don’t know if I need the CTB20 (but I do love that top panel pocket!)
I have the PLC20 that I’ll be taken on a cruise as an excursion bag. (You gave me an aha moment when you showed me how the PLC and MPL were of the same design logic, thanks!)
I may consider getting the CTB20 for my wife.
Good stuff
Im torn. I have the CPL16 on pre-order, and I'm considering getting the CTB 20 instead hard choice. I want both!
@@JasonDranoff-f9c I’m leaning towards having both also. The plus for me is the top pocket and dual water bottle pockets.
What’s your immediate need (or want)?
@@rev.dennisp.sepulveda5965 Good question... I don't really NEED the water bottle pocket as my Yetti is leakproof. I leave it at the office all week, so I take it on Mondays and Fridays, so the CPL 16 is prob the best fit. Other than the top pocket, they are VERY similar and I do like the sleekness of the Cpl 16.. IDK I think I will buy both.....
@@JasonDranoff-f9c that’ll make the two of us.
One thing I didn’t mention, the CPL16 is a thin bag. I have to work the zipper to pack my CAP2L inside if it.
Good to know if I can’t decide which CTB size to bring on a trip I can just bring them all inside a CTB35.
Yes! 😜
So the Muir III didn’t make the cut?
Oh! Good question. I thought about mentioning that. Too big to sit on top of the spinner for work travel. It’s even a little tall for hanging on the front. Still awesome
I didn’t realise you were an Airline Pilot.
A380 guy here
Nice! 757/767 👨✈️
@jb outside, Huckberry just re-stocked the slicks and I’m told they have QAPs now
Video coming soon-ish 😜
@@JBOutside1 I ordered 1 last week when there was low stock that must’ve been a return cause it showed up Wednesday without the QAP. Then they restocked this week supposedly with it. So I returned the one I had, and ordered 2 more on 2 separate orders just in case. Huckberry’s CS and returns are amazing.
@@michaeldegregory4674 That's awesome and I'm glad they helped you out. The new batch does have the QAP but they had a few of the old stock still and they got mixed in somehow...they figured it out though and are getting it sorted out. I'm sure they'll help whoever gets the wrong one. I have one on the say for a video.
@@JBOutside1would be really curious to know how the QAP sizes on the new slicks compare to the QAPs they put on the ultra GR1 - did they bump up the size at all? How do they compare with the DC18L QAP?
@@besologic this is a great question. I’m away for another week so be a bit for the answer unfortunately
For your personal edc, are you reaching for the CPL16 or CBT20? I’m really torn between the two.
Hmm, I’ve been using the CTB20 for the last few weeks as my travel pilot bag. The CPL is a quick grab and go option daily…so both? Edge to CTB to though
Papa - CTB35
Mama - CTB26
Mini - CTB20
Baby 🐻?
Got the Cpl 24 after you recommended it great bag love it. Thank you. Would like a little more room I’m thinking of getting ctb 26 griffin edition. I’ve never had a waxed canvas bag any disadvantages? Also I’m really liking the phoenix edition. What would you recommend wait and see if phoenix is released again or jump on the griffin edition? This would be every day bag.
The CTB26 is my favorite travel bag and also it's great for larger EDC needs. PHX2 is my current favorite but I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the griffin edition...I'm predicting it's a grand slam homerun lifetime keeper if it's half as good as it looks in photos...I'd pick that up now since it's available
@@JBOutside1 will do thanks again
3+ lbs with ok straps on the ctb20 is a no go for edc for me. Might work for a short trip but these heavy edc minus a few exceptions don’t work long term as an edc.
I really don't stress the weight of an EDC pack since I'm not going the distance in that mode
yea, heavy + fat. never been a fan. Ive come to realize I cant do gorucks, they dont work for me, although cool. evergoods is also on that list for me, BUTTTTT, im trying the cpl16 AGAIN, to see if i can make 1 EG bag work lol.
@JBOutside1 ive heard you say that a lot JB, which I get where your coming from. but when I pack into a 2.2lb bag, then transfer into say a canvas bag same size and its 4.3lbs, its not about like... carrying an extra 2ish lbs, for me its a noticeable difference when it hits the back. like that moment of "wow" happens and so for me thats why the weight is a thing. I dont think from 2lbs to 2.5 is a thing, but if bags are 2ish lbs, then you go into 4.5lbs, I feel like I 10000% FEEEEEEL the difference for sure.
Chairman, great vid for a great pack. Does this version still have the gaps on each side of the top handle? My Jeep diaper bag gave out after some major mileage. And I was thinking I could Jerry rig the two stroller straps through those gaps and onto the stroller handle (hope that made sense haha).
Yes they do. That makes total sense! 😎
Omg the buccee patch. Are yo from Texas ?
Unfortunately no but I AM a fan
Hey!!! There he is!
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What do you think of the CTB20 vs CHZ22 for a dad bag?
Hmmm, great question. Both would really work but edge to the CHZ for the more top loading design and the bottle pockets
@@JBOutside1 thanks, that's what I was thinking too
does the ctb20 offers the same laptop compartment dimensions vs the cpl24?
We need drag test updates :)
yo what?
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@@JBOutside1 Typo! Drag test, of course. Also, waiting for the updated GOAT bag comparison: Phoenix vs CTB26 X-Pack which just dropped!
Haha, that makes a LOT more sense!
Already rang the YT drama bells, its too late now
Got any good links for where you find patches for your bags?
I really like “PS Patch Designs”
Thinking of picking up CAP1, do you prefer ecopak or xpac?
I use both regularly and really don’t have a preference.
Torn between the CTB20 and CTB26. If you had to choose one, which would you recommend?
Depends on what you want to do with it. I use the 20L for EDC and the 26L for travel.
@@JBOutside1 90% EDC/office; 10% travel
I have a CPL24 (v3 mirror) and OD-green. Also Goruck Samurai and DC18 Kaidan. And several others. I found myself always coming back to the basic black CPL24. It’s just so convenient and blend into everything nicely.
That being said, I’m shopping and struggling to find a travel bag. CPL is nice but no luggage pass through.
Any recommendations?
Lots. But there’s many considerations. CTB26 remains as my favorite travel bag.
Great channel! I sent Evergoods an email on 6-25-24 and they said they would be replenishing stock in the fall. Meanwhile I ordered a Able Cary Daily Plus that ties down and works well with my HD Softail Passenger seat. I have passenger grab rails under the passenger seat so I tie down to that and tie back to the backrest. I notice you also use that bag when riding your motorcycle but it appears you wear yours while riding. What kind of motorcycle do you ride?
Nice! I'm a Triumph guy. Currently on a Street Twin
I knew I liked watching your videos for a reason. Vamos Atlanta!
@@cbgaming9245 yes!
Pilot here as well, i'm using the a19 whitley. Do you think this one is better for our use? is this your current favorite?
I wouldn't necessarily say it's better. I do like the front organization of the Whitley and that may work best for you. I've found that when I put the CTB20 on its side on top of my rolling bag I really like the access to all the pockets.
Another nice review/comparison video! What is your preference for EDC, the DC 18l or the CTB 20?
My standard answer: it depends. But right now I’m really digging the CTB20
What's that hat sir!? And where can I get one? Melin type with blacked out HI islands!? 😮
That hat is awesome. It was a limited release 😎
GREAT vid as usual.I think this might be the one…Umtil the next one!🤣
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Didn't know you were an airline pilot JB - pretty cool!
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I thought we gave you the summer off! The Russian Doll gag was fun. It could also be a Goldilocks moment: too big, too small, just right. Pace yourself mister, Nawlins looked like fun.
It was! But hot. But that’s the case everywhere it seems. Glad you liked it! Now back to Summer 😜
@@JBOutside1 Now you have get back to X-Pac Summer Capsule. :) Is that Coyote tan?
The webbing tip is super handy! Thanks😊
Glad it was helpful!
What is the largest yeti that could fit in the side pockets? 36oz?
I’d also like to know the answer to this
I know a 1L Nalgene will fit but quite snug. I’m out on a trip this week so it’ll be a few days before I can test others. But to be honest the 18oz yeti fits perfect yet snug so wouldn’t plan to use anything larger than that routinely
I can fit my 1 liter Yeti Yonder (non insulated) bottle with no issues. It is snug though! I regularly keep my Owala 24oz insulated bottle in my CTB20.
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@@JBOutside1 I can provide you with excellent quality bags
Yo what what 🫡
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Do you eat plant based?
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Odd question
Did you say you use roller luggage?
For work, yes
@@JBOutside1 you once told me you never use roller luggage.
@@skipper4114 I sure did. And for personal travel I have yet to use a roller, but for work I kinda have to since I cant wear a backpack in uniform.
@@JBOutside1 anything more than 2-3 nights its roller and a small backpack for me.
Yo, the pockets on the outside, especially the one by the handle, are kinda weird. It's like they defeat the whole purpose of having a handle. Thanks JB, informative with plenty of poijts to ponder.
You bet!