The CS2 Full Release is Not What We Expected

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  • @trickdeck
    @trickdeck Рік тому +4924

    The new test build is pretty fun, can't wait to see the full game come out

    • @mohitdingal8078
      @mohitdingal8078 Рік тому +335

      Don't worry it'll be out and perfect by 2026.

    • @gamingmineko6763
      @gamingmineko6763 Рік тому +289

      @@mohitdingal8078 You're being ridiculous! This is Valve we're talking about!
      2052 at the earliest.

    • @YouTubeDeletesMeForSpeaking
      @YouTubeDeletesMeForSpeaking Рік тому +65

      Stop shilling valve will fix cs2 in 2069 ;)

    • @hyperdrive6325
      @hyperdrive6325 Рік тому +32

      ⁠@@UA-camDeletesMeForSpeakingknowing how valve loves putting all their effort into making their games with no bugs at all it should be out 2101

    • @deeznutts8073
      @deeznutts8073 Рік тому +10

      Just give it a couple of decades

  • @TotalxTroll25k
    @TotalxTroll25k Рік тому +523

    Honestly the most disappointing thing is the lack of ability to play private matches. Me and my friends that play CS we’re able to get friends that don’t play or haven’t played in a while to get on, but when there’s more than 5 of us we either have to split up or people have to sit out. Private matches are huge for the game growth and learning. Even without workshop maps it’s still an important feature

    • @zway4252
      @zway4252 Рік тому +46

      you can play together in private Matchmaking with code.

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 Рік тому

      ​@@zway4252yea but this is a lot different then being able to start up a private match.

    • @TotalxTroll25k
      @TotalxTroll25k Рік тому

      @@zway4252 I’ll have to give it a try, when I first saw it I’ll be honest I thought it was just some sort of matchmaking group. When looking it up I saw quite a few Reddit posts about it failing quite often so hopefully that isn’t the case

    • @rizqiakhmadf3805
      @rizqiakhmadf3805 Рік тому +68

      I like to play arm race, and danger zone mode. It's maybe kinda underated but everything just disappeared when CS2 was released, it's kinda disappointing for me :(

    • @self-proclaimedanimator
      @self-proclaimedanimator Рік тому +11

      @@rizqiakhmadf3805 man you act like it ain't coming back
      Ngl the only game mode I played was arms race I never touched the defusal or other main game modes I hope Volvo ads em sooner than later

  • @Philluminati
    @Philluminati Рік тому +569

    I'm not a game developer but I've worked on huge IT migrations and even if you lose a dozen features, getting to the other side of a migration is a huge difficult feat. Now that CSGO is gone it's all about fixing and improving cs2 and by 2024 I expect it to be easily the best counterstrike we have ever played. However that's from a purely technical standpoint.

    • @rekamud6635
      @rekamud6635 Рік тому +15

      valve games are a techdemo, why would you remove a techdemo, csgo? Because csgo is css and cs2 is source 2. They in essence drop ped another trading card april fools game

    • @ZaylaaZiaa
      @ZaylaaZiaa Рік тому +12

      we'll have to wait for CS2GO for that

    • @wellingtonbruh3756
      @wellingtonbruh3756 Рік тому +5

      I'm having a good time playing cs2. But my biggest criticism is the location of health and armor. In csgo, health and armor where easy to see, large and had both a number health bar. Now the money you have is larger than those really important stats and I'm really hoping there will be a way to change that

    • @tydatv2674
      @tydatv2674 Рік тому +4

      No it was a bad move to remove cargo we lost like half content this shit sucks

    • @MiracleCOD
      @MiracleCOD Рік тому +1

      ​@@wellingtonbruh3756I feel like QoL things like changing your HUD and whatnot is still a ways out. The game is technically sound, but I agree it's lacking on certain features, especially QoL. It's always the little stuff that matter to me personally.

  • @juuso2248
    @juuso2248 Рік тому +469

    6:22 I love how the friendly chatting and positive vibes transferred from CS:GO to CS2

    • @BlastinRope
      @BlastinRope Рік тому +40

      about a year ago I switched from having a “gamertag” and started using my real first name as my steam/in game name, people are pretty much always nice to me, they treat me like their little brother or something. i think having a gamer name dehumanizes you and subconciously makes it easier for people to be mean to you.

    • @MrMudbill
      @MrMudbill Рік тому +78

      @@BlastinRope I can tell ya right now that wouldn't make a difference in Europe lol

    • @vladimir8035
      @vladimir8035 Рік тому +20

      ​@BlastinRope being mean, toxic and insulting others is the core essence that makes CS, CS. What's the point of playing if you aren't calling others slurs every 10 minutes...

    • @benz19982
      @benz19982 Рік тому +27

      @@BlastinRope Nice! so I can trashtalk you using your real name :)

    • @Stress394
      @Stress394 Рік тому +2

      I have the impression that its way more toxic than csgo. Maybe because of the trust factor idk.

  • @Deevoized
    @Deevoized Рік тому +1736

    I'm very excited to see what they do moving forward, I'm no longer terrified they're not going to do anything. They've been putting in a ton of work lately, and with the uplift to Source 2 it's going to make the devs job easier to add new features/update existing ones. The future of CS is bright, we just have to get through a bit of the bugginess with the new version!

    • @coltyt9529
      @coltyt9529 Рік тому +30

      Lower ur expectation bro u can wait for another year for it to be a totally finished game

    • @whywhy8276
      @whywhy8276 Рік тому +41

      Yup, our monkey-brains are impatient but I believe in the future. This isn't like other games where they will release a really buggy mess and never improve, this has Valve quality and will surely change for the better.

    • @coltyt9529
      @coltyt9529 Рік тому +7

      @@whywhy8276 it's still gonna be the same as the others
      Now take a look at CoD MWII.
      Activision putting out unfinished recent releases just for the money.
      And now... we have *this*.
      Another unfinished game. A letdown. CSGO is still better than CS2.
      *Gameplay>Graphics*
      Remember this bro

    • @coltyt9529
      @coltyt9529 Рік тому +3

      @@whywhy8276 I've slowly losing faith in recent triple A titles like why tf am I even hyping up for these in the first place 😔

    • @Elijah-Bailey
      @Elijah-Bailey Рік тому +55

      ​@@coltyt9529 The fact is that we know cs2 will last at least 10 years like csgo did. The start of csgo was a total mess (way bigger than cs2) and many people didn't wanted to play the game at all and prefered css or even 1.6, csgo dev had a hard time making the game better bc of this hence why they make csgo unplayable now with cs2, they don't want that situation to happen again

  • @Jabloon
    @Jabloon Рік тому +235

    It was sad to see Arms Race being not included in the current build of the game. I hope it will return one day

    • @Goldfish_Vender
      @Goldfish_Vender Рік тому +18

      yeah that was one of my favorite alt gamemodes

    • @ihazd3mons406
      @ihazd3mons406 Рік тому +21

      Yes and flying scoutsman too 😢

    • @ImJustJAG
      @ImJustJAG Рік тому

      ​@@ihazd3mons406yep

    • @InCaldera
      @InCaldera Рік тому +17

      Arms Race was my only interest in CS for the last couple years. This blows.

    • @Goldfish_Vender
      @Goldfish_Vender Рік тому +3

      @@InCaldera bro its not even going away forever lol. All the gamemodes are coming back.

  • @m3morizes
    @m3morizes Рік тому +369

    I couldn't agree more with regard to the point about the tracers feeling misaligned. The first thing I noticed in CS2 was that I couldn't spray, and I realized that I had relied quite a bit on the tracers when committing to prolonged sprays.

    • @coreblaster6809
      @coreblaster6809 Рік тому +13

      "The reality is that CSGO's tracers aren't accurate and don't actually help a player learn a gun's spray pattern." - website in 2019
      I think people are just looking for things to complain about

    • @qqqAvi
      @qqqAvi Рік тому

      ​@@coreblaster6809i think you are a noob and u know actually jack shit about cs. By the way, that's exactly a noob, typical cliché comment some new player would make. I've been playing cs since the alpha version of the first cs and I'm telling you that something is wrong with cs2. You don't seem to understand the mechanics of what it was Cs. It's like calling the movement in quake 2 WRONG and make it more friendly for new players. Cs2 has a lot of problems, sometimes it doesn't seem to be cs at all.

    • @m3morizes
      @m3morizes Рік тому +44

      @@coreblaster6809 No, the tracers are definitely different, and they definitely affected my ability to spray past 20 bullets. I'm not even necessarily complaining or saying it needs to be changed to be the same as CS:GO, but it's different, and at the very least needs time getting used to.

    • @snugglepuppyproductions685
      @snugglepuppyproductions685 Рік тому

      skill issue, i spray fine in cs2@@m3morizes

    • @komraj7851
      @komraj7851 Рік тому +9

      @@m3morizes they must be emphasised. That's what puts me off and I hate it. The past tracers were definitely not accurate, but these being accurate AND emphasised throws me off

  • @FrostDzNz
    @FrostDzNz Рік тому +83

    I'm glad they finally released it, but they practically killed the casual experience in favor of completing the competitive one. We might not even be getting an operation before the major next year with how many game modes we lost from go that still need to be added. Team Deathmatch? Retakes? Flying Scoutsman? Arms Race? Dare I say, Danger Zone?

    • @Capatron1
      @Capatron1 Рік тому +18

      The whole cs culture revolves around competitive, it makes sense for me.
      Not saying casual players do not matter, but the priorities they set were appropriate imo

    • @ZeMilchMann
      @ZeMilchMann Рік тому +11

      Ask anyone with 1000+ hours in go and I would bet a dollar most of them only played comp DM and arms race

    • @Harmenjoe
      @Harmenjoe Рік тому

      No pp bizon as well since it's a waste to put on, but mightve been fun in that moment

    • @michalmatulewicz
      @michalmatulewicz Рік тому +4

      i understand and agree with most gamemodes, but TEAM DEATHMATCH? its just usless, everybody vs everybody is way better in every aspect

    • @CL-jq1xs
      @CL-jq1xs Рік тому

      i wouldn't exactly say they killed the casual experience.... the original game mode is where casual spend most of their time on.

  • @ESMIR1337
    @ESMIR1337 5 місяців тому +12

    9 months later and the current version is still not good enough to be out of beta.

  • @justaspeedrunner
    @justaspeedrunner Рік тому +504

    The biggest thing for me about the full release that makes it different than the Limited Test? A linux build. I am so happy I can play. "Finished" or not, I am just happy to be able to play with my friends.

    • @JesseBusman1996
      @JesseBusman1996 Рік тому +9

      Same! Besides the day 1 audio issues that forced me to wear earbuds + a headset over top to get discord sound at the same time 🤣

    • @nubz4lif
      @nubz4lif Рік тому

      ​@@JesseBusman1996 I know it's fixed now, but putting '-sdlaudiodriver pipewire' in your launch options fixed this

    • @justaspeedrunner
      @justaspeedrunner Рік тому +12

      @@JesseBusman1996 Yeah that was definitely funny, apparently they didn't have pulse support on day one so we had to wait for them to add it💀

    • @frankfletcher_1
      @frankfletcher_1 Рік тому +5

      Mac/Apple gaming users sacrificed their lives for the ability for Linux users to play

    • @wazzaaaa05
      @wazzaaaa05 Рік тому +2

      btw how is the experience on linux? im thinking of switching to linux from windows because games are starting to be more and more playable on it

  • @superfightman2053
    @superfightman2053 Рік тому +287

    I think what really needs to happen as soon as possible is for Global Offensive to be reintroduced as a separate Steam entry in a stripped down form without matchmaking and without skins. Call it Global Offensive Legacy Edition or something. Make it clear on the Steam store page that this version is unsupported and is mostly for playing private games and old custom maps and modes. It would make this whole situation sting a whole lot less as we wait for the rest of the game to be re-implemented into the new engine.

    • @Armaghtti
      @Armaghtti Рік тому +10

      Agreed heavily

    • @poolkrooni
      @poolkrooni Рік тому +7

      without skins? jebus you savage!

    • @roblogez
      @roblogez Рік тому +5

      But what about the old workshop?

    • @Sn4p_Fps
      @Sn4p_Fps Рік тому +8

      wait you want a csgo edition just for play offline whit bots ? are you okay bro ?

    • @Gengar0x
      @Gengar0x Рік тому

      Great work

  • @SkyDieRay
    @SkyDieRay Рік тому +190

    The bullet travel interacts with smokes. And it's also weird, because the travel as you showed is not going where the bullet is, so the same goes for holes left in the smokes. They are left where the bullet travel path went, not where you crosshair is.

    • @dinosaur7410
      @dinosaur7410 Рік тому +13

      well the opposite would be scuffed if spraying through a smoke no?

    • @iamhardwell2844
      @iamhardwell2844 Рік тому

      shotgun is more accurate than rifle LOL

  • @hdf001
    @hdf001 Рік тому +44

    As a solo queue player, it took me 30 games to reach 10 wins. I had an 10 and an 5 loss in a row. I played against pros (two players from the M80 team) and finished with 4,500 points. The solo queue line-up is crazy and causes mental health issues.

    • @Max-zo6rv
      @Max-zo6rv Рік тому +2

      Similar case for me

    • @papahellmann
      @papahellmann Рік тому +1

      Unnecessary to say that this is very different for everybody, I’m not a great player, I got supreme in soloq at best, I’m not a carry I depend on teamwork to win games- and I got to 10 wins in 13 games in the beta and 14 after release- with leavers, toxic people and afk guys. Counterstrike is counterstrike and Solo is and will always be a special experience. That being said if you lose that much it might be time to accept that you are part of the problem, and your ranking might be justified. If anything I would say with 20 losses you should still consider yourself lucky to get about half the elo of someone who only lost 3 games🤣🤣
      Why play Premiere Mode at all, if you want to play casually? Pick your maps, learn them, get better and then go for try hard- you’re someone who can’t even ride a bike expecting to be able to just pick up motorcycles, cars, scooters and airplanes and then blames everything on the planet you’re standing on when it goes as it’s supposed to.

    • @jwwwun
      @jwwwun Рік тому +1

      Came back to comment that I don’t even feel like playing 10 games because it feels like torturing myself, I either encounter 5stack cheaters (YES, BLATANT AIMBOTTERS) or ppl who just leave the game forcing us to surrender

  • @cerotonen
    @cerotonen Рік тому +59

    After having taken a break from cs:go for a very long while, I'm surprised at how much I'm enjoying CS2. I really want to see more maps and game modes.

  • @sskuk1095
    @sskuk1095 3 місяці тому +2

    8:03 "I think you're gonna be surprised how fast they're gonna be able to develop for Counter Strike 2."
    Aged horribly!

  • @proosee
    @proosee Рік тому +445

    I like what developers do, they fix bugs fast, they listen to community - very good job. What is bothering me is actually all those business decisions from Valve. Because both locking 64 ticks and rushing release date were strictly business decisions and they are bad for the game in my opinion.

    • @TheUnofficialHarry
      @TheUnofficialHarry Рік тому +30

      Valve higher-ups have a lot more income than sense 🤣

    • @coobk
      @coobk Рік тому +5

      i would say 64tick is a business decision, they are still fixing shit so normalising data is very good

    • @coltyt9529
      @coltyt9529 Рік тому +13

      @@TheUnofficialHarry they r slowly becoming another Mr Crabs 😔

    • @jermu8706
      @jermu8706 Рік тому +25

      "Valve - we used to make good games, now we make money"

    • @sakumisan
      @sakumisan Рік тому +16

      If you are complaining about 64 tick it proves you know nothing about how Subtick works LOL
      It also proves that valve should not listen to the community on everything, because they don't know what they're talking about 99% of the time.

  • @matyf_
    @matyf_ Рік тому +79

    I saw other content creators criticize the game but your way of explaining what you like and what you don't like is, by far, the best one. There's a lot to come, and it's going to take time. But I'm sure Counter Strike is here to stay for a long long time

    • @013nil
      @013nil Рік тому

      if you criticize, you get more views. That is a fact.

    • @LLyric_
      @LLyric_ Рік тому +1

      @@013nil no its not

  • @skyecase5968
    @skyecase5968 Рік тому +14

    "So simple your mother could watch a match and understand whats going on"
    Reminds me of when the ELeague Major was on TNT and i actually watched it with my mom and she was able to understand after a brief walk through of what they are trying to do

  • @marschel6271
    @marschel6271 Рік тому +4

    7:09 this. Me and my friends didn't play CS for a long time and decided to jump into CS2 for old times sake. Turns out, one friend of ours was unable to play because his game kept crashing due to the graphics.

  • @tomino133
    @tomino133 Рік тому +416

    I'm 30 years old and haven't played any CS in years. I used play 1.6 as a kid (even 1.5 against bots) after school all the time. It's amazing to see that this game is still going strong all these years later. It just warms my heart.

    • @MangaGamified
      @MangaGamified Рік тому +14

      Climbing through ladders and vents is the most memorable 🤣
      And zigzagging through mazes are the best maps

    • @ihaveacar
      @ihaveacar Рік тому +6

      Dust 2 still the most popular map on the most popular shooter lol

    • @Ddubbler
      @Ddubbler Рік тому +7

      should play the new one, it sucks compared to 1.6, 1.6 and source. I mean i still play it, but the guns dont feel right. something aint quite right with the model physics either. CS source had better physics and sounds IMO

    • @dr.angerous
      @dr.angerous Рік тому +2

      ​@@Ddubblerit sucks I won't play it. End of story

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo Рік тому +11

      ​@@Ddubbleralways the same "it doesnt feel right" WHAT doesn't feel right? The fact that it's different?

  • @Zohkine
    @Zohkine Рік тому +16

    I haven't played CS in years, but I still love watching your videos WarOwl! Thanks for your dedication to the game!

  • @martinnilsson9168
    @martinnilsson9168 Рік тому +73

    The reason that left hand perspective isnt in the game yet is probably because it affects the shadow that your player casts on the ground. In CS2 you can now see your own shadow, making it possible for the player to think more ahead of where and how far they are peeking so that enemies cant see you. Im sure they will fix this in the future but they simply havent implemented it yet.

    • @codcrashx
      @codcrashx Рік тому +8

      You are right, but it will either never come or not be switchable once the match starts

    • @Luka.b
      @Luka.b Рік тому +15

      This and smoke spam. They would also have to change the angle.
      I think it basically breaks the game or causes it to be unfair in certain scenarios.
      It will be interesting your this gets implemented.

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 Рік тому

      In csgo it was only local, so the conflict becomes real.

    • @papahellmann
      @papahellmann Рік тому +3

      All of these arguments are pointless, nobody is asking for that shit to be adjusted, they just want their weapon on the left so it doesn’t disturb them. What is the point of all these changes, left handed is no unfair or even real advantage- people should simply be able to choose if they want their game to look slightly off in order to play more comfortably. This isn’t about something like visuals breaking the Immersion, or getting an advantage what are you talking about. Nobody even asked for adjusted shadows and smoke spam

    • @xenophenon
      @xenophenon Рік тому +1

      I don't think that shadows are problem, when you inspect your weapon or change view model shadow doesn't react to this. When you pick up or switch weapon shadow has a delay about a second. So it means that 1st person view is rendered separately from your model on server and they can do whatever tgey want. Hopefully they give us back everything they took and add more. I'm waiting for clear decals, cl_bob, left hand and so on.

  • @m1st87
    @m1st87 Рік тому +182

    As far as I'm concerned, its not a full released untill they add AT LEAST the maps they teased in the trailer (baggage, shoots, etc.) Its missing key game modes like arms race, flying scoutsman, danger zone, etc. Not to mention key features like left handed, inv_nextgun, etc. Also, I was sort of hoping for native support for more community game modes like surf, kz, bhop, prison escape, zombies, etc. But that may be pushing it a bit too far

    • @Delicoms
      @Delicoms Рік тому +11

      I think they knew nobody played the native arms race/demolition game modes. Would have been wasted effort to focus on those especially for new content like jailbreak, which the community will want its own way anyway
      I agreee though the lack of maps is killer. I think the thing is the community maps come from operations, and given mappers already had tools for at least a few months, we could have had a launch operation

    • @maniacpwnageking
      @maniacpwnageking Рік тому +7

      Omg an official Surf mode would be wild. They don't really have to do anything other than hand pick a 5 of the best maps from each tier, and have a UI to let the player select their difficulty level. Just having that recognition from Valve would be so cool. Ofc I doubt they're going to do that, they don't need to, and existing surfers would probably find a way to be mad about it, but it would still be cool.

    • @oiram4940
      @oiram4940 Рік тому +22

      ​@@Delicomswhat do you mean nobody played it? Is there a statistic or something? I have never had a problem with finding a match ever in arms race and I played it every day for couple years.

    • @rihamission487
      @rihamission487 Рік тому

      @@maniacpwnageking The surf servers will have to be 128 tick.

    • @Kajuk
      @Kajuk Рік тому +3

      @@rihamission487 And that is why it will never happen. Valve effectively killed surfing in cs2 by forcing 64tick on everyone

  • @necipallef9283
    @necipallef9283 Рік тому +8

    I love the SC II background music that you use.
    I hate that you didn't mention CSGO 2 not running on Mac computers. There is currently no old CSGO and no new CSGO for Mac users, such a shame.

    • @menyaZavootMuzzy
      @menyaZavootMuzzy Рік тому +1

      lol I'm so used to Terran music because I play SC2 all the time, I didn't even notice.

  • @danieldilly
    @danieldilly Рік тому +285

    The CSGO team probably wanted and expected more upon release themselves. But often, software development timelines fall behind schedule and they said it was coming Summer 2023 so they were probably in a bit of a bind. I expect to see a lot of additions in the very near future.

    • @qu1253
      @qu1253 Рік тому +37

      I mean, they could have just delayed it until it was ready. Valve doesn't have shareholders to answer to - they set their own deadlines.

    • @Vishgraphy
      @Vishgraphy Рік тому +1

      @@qu1253 No, they couldn't wait more becouse gaming scene was dyeing and it was the time for a New Operation anyway so they had to release something.

    • @burneraccounthandle
      @burneraccounthandle Рік тому +2

      too many 'probably's

    • @MangaGamified
      @MangaGamified Рік тому +12

      "see a lot of additions in the very near future"
      no duh, alot of skins 🤣

    • @gettingemhyper
      @gettingemhyper Рік тому +1

      They already released it after summer ended. They could've just waited longer

  • @Bupkiss
    @Bupkiss Рік тому +48

    100% with you on the tracers messing with my spray. Mac-10 feels especially bad with it for me personally.

  • @ashtonwee3523
    @ashtonwee3523 Рік тому +44

    Thank you for touching on the issue of players with low-end pc. I used to be able to play csgo with my duo with no issues but now they can’t even run the game without facing severe lag issues. Hopefully valve finds a work-around with this problem.

    • @sassycat77
      @sassycat77 Рік тому +3

      I’m at university and CSGO was the only competitive game my laptop could run well, I fr bought a Xbox because I had no games left.

    • @xdeathcon
      @xdeathcon Рік тому +3

      My internet isn't great, and the new ping system feels horrendous in cs2 when you don't have good internet. Honestly, I wouldn't have an issue with cs2 existing, but the killing off of csgo is something that I don't support, and there's enough I dislike in cs2 that I'm not playing it. I started playing cs source again, and I honestly like it better than I ever liked csgo and cs2.

    • @barkyyy
      @barkyyy Рік тому +2

      @@sassycat77 if you can afford an xbox you can afford a lower end gaming laptop that can run cs2 my guy

    • @sassycat77
      @sassycat77 Рік тому +3

      @@barkyyy what has better value? A $300(CAD) Xbox that can run most if
      Not all new games(COD, R6, Apex, BF) at 120 FPS or a shitty little laptop I could get for $300

    • @andyabel3072
      @andyabel3072 Рік тому

      lol yea he never actually bought his own pc or xbox before that was all new information you just gave him.

  • @Seth_Kay
    @Seth_Kay Рік тому +10

    If there's one thing I'd like, it's for Competitive/Premiere mode to give you a rank after 10 matches played, not won.
    I'm on the opposite side of Warowl - a Silver 1-3 that likes the game and wants to get better at it, but for now, I've been in a couple of even matches, and the rest are curb-stomps. There's always a player that doesn't belong, being either way stronger than everybody else, or someone (usually me) finding themselves in the middle of coordinated smokes/flashes/pushs while I barely know how to hold my gun. That's kind of sort of normal at the start, buuuut it also means that the lower-skill players have to go through a lot of games to actually get ranked and matched appropriately against people of roughly their levels. Either by having even matches by chance, getting carried through the wins (which is a _horrible_ feeling), or waiting for the ranks to settle, which could take some time.
    I don't mind if I'm, like, 500 points on Premiere with a 3-7 win/loss ratio on those 10 matches, I'll gladly take it and grind my butt off from there. But _getting_ there at this point is going to be an exercise in endurance.
    And yeah, I know playing with stronger players makes you learn faster and can sometimes give you tips if your teammates are friendly, but that's the exception rather than the rule.
    (I'll also fully admit that I'm a masochist for going straight to Premiere, but I like having to go for every map and not being "limited" by 1 rank per map and having a more general skill assessment.)

    • @lartza_85
      @lartza_85 Рік тому +1

      Map specific ranked dont work any better, i was le on csgo and cs2 thinks i deserve silver 4 even tho last game where i got my rank avg csgo rank was something like LEM, so looks like cs2 is throwing 95% of players on silver ranks.

  • @AsiandOOd
    @AsiandOOd Рік тому +20

    some things ive noticed with cs2:
    1. hitreg is terrible, huge backtrack, people are getting shot behind walls.
    2. same problem with awps, where the flick and shoot mechanic is severely changed by subtick, it is very inconsistent to hit flicks.
    3. spray pattern, even though they say its not changed, it definitely feels different. there is a known difference between 64 tick spray and 128 tick spray, where 128 tick is slightly tighter, i believe it is the different with subtick.
    4. movement, bhopping feels so impossible now before i can land 3 or 4 hops consistently on 64 tick now it is difficult to even start 1.
    5. peekers advantage, probably same thing with subtick, but everyone is ferrari peeking me. i feel like something is off with camera and player model, but i havent seen proof.
    6. player model is still very clunky, especially the legs, when u counter strafe on a slanted surface, the legs glide around.
    these are the definite cs2 mechanical differences, if yall seen some of this or have any other issues, let me know.

    • @benw2722
      @benw2722 Рік тому +3

      I have the same issues.. Just about everything you listed.

    • @mathy4605
      @mathy4605 Рік тому

      Getting dinked by people that aren’t even on my screen yet and missing AWP flicks that I should have clearly hit are definitely my biggest gripes.

    • @brianlam5847
      @brianlam5847 Рік тому

      I actually felt the opposite; shooting is definitely not fun compared to CS:GO but hitreg I feel was far better. Unlike before where the game waits until the next tick to calculate the shot, in CS2 the game will calculate who shot first and then kill the first person to die on the next tick, even if they are behind walls as they technically died already. This difference means that previously missed shots in CSGO may have actually been hits that were unfairly recorded, as the enemy hitbox could exit the shot trajectory after the input tick and before the shot calculation tick.
      The difference now is that unlike CS:GO where pressing two buttons on the same tick would be the same, for example pressing a and left click on the exact same tick gives 100% accuracy, pressing two buttons on the same tick now gives you different results depending on the order no matter how precise and if the action was on the same tick, meaning that input timings are far more precise as the server retroactively calculates your inputs and old players who had the advantage of more lenient timings due to 64 tick are noticing the unresponsiveness as their inputs have to be more precise.

  • @arnavrawat9864
    @arnavrawat9864 Рік тому +1

    There's no school like the old school, and I'm the headmaster
    - The spirit of CS

  • @lxdixd
    @lxdixd Рік тому +369

    The one thing I'm sad about is the removal of clan tags and team name switching. It was fun to try and play like a clan with a 5 stack
    also this change removes funny group tags, smh

    • @Bestow3000
      @Bestow3000 Рік тому +30

      OW2 and CS2 are both trying to remove ways to see who's playing with a stacked team or not and I hate it.

    • @GameChanger-xi4iy
      @GameChanger-xi4iy Рік тому +1

      @@Bestow3000 Why do you hate it. It allows the other team to know if they're going up against a sweaty 5-stack team or not. Unless you're the type of person to do this, it shouldn't bother you.

    • @ignatz2
      @ignatz2 Рік тому +57

      @@GameChanger-xi4iyHe hates it because they are removing that ability.

    • @fireflygodx9654
      @fireflygodx9654 Рік тому

      nah it's good, why would you wanna see a 1000 letter character clan tag taking up your whole screen and you don't know who it is unless you open the steam profile, atleast now i know if i played against the same person or not...

    • @mugnasson
      @mugnasson Рік тому +3

      @@Bestow3000 If you play Premier MM it's obvious on the pick/ban screen who are queued - so it's not that.

  • @thetroll1984
    @thetroll1984 Рік тому +10

    the rubber banding when you touch your teammates is something that i didn't expect to be a problem in CS2 tbh.

    • @TheWarOwl
      @TheWarOwl  Рік тому +9

      yeah that's a weird one. On high ping I've run completely through my teammates before like the ending of The Men Who Stare At Goats

    • @MrRobotrax
      @MrRobotrax Рік тому +3

      @@TheWarOwl woah woah woah spoilers! geez.

  • @praveenv90
    @praveenv90 Рік тому +23

    The biggest change for me is not being able to see how much damage you did to which enemy mid-round anymore. This must be a massive inconvenience and I'm surprised this is not being talked about much. Is this being removed for good?

    • @milozaagsma1155
      @milozaagsma1155 Рік тому +6

      this is something that was always disabled in more competitive modes like faceit and also at tournaments, makes sense to me to remove it from comp as well

    • @Stern98257
      @Stern98257 Рік тому +6

      It was a huge info for your teammates if you knew how much damage you did to which enemy after dying just by opening up the console. I'll have to get used to it even though it inconveniences me. But I think it's a good change. Neither I nor my enemies now know the HP mid round if it wasnt an obvious shot (scout body shot for example). So you can definitely use that for your advantage, knowing your enemies don't really know that you're low on HP

  • @zzzzzzzzzzzzzz-w8u
    @zzzzzzzzzzzzzz-w8u Рік тому +145

    the loss of modes like danger zone and war games is crazy imo. really hope they come back

    • @horriblypink
      @horriblypink Рік тому +17

      War Games was unplayable due to hackers botting. I tried to join Wargames for an hour and got kicked from every server, and God forbid I have a server to myself some guy will join add his own bots then use them as votes to kick. Valve was doing absolutely nothing about it.

    • @jacksonmanitoulinisland
      @jacksonmanitoulinisland Рік тому +14

      War games is gone? 😢

    • @OmaeWaKys
      @OmaeWaKys Рік тому +5

      You can't even create a private match rn 😂

    • @munzerabdulhamid
      @munzerabdulhamid Рік тому +4

      Yeah that mode were you become a flying sniper edit: I hope they bring back the modes

    • @Void-Knull
      @Void-Knull Рік тому +12

      ​@@horriblypinkwar games was very functional, I literally played it the night before cs2 released

  • @cramsalesman
    @cramsalesman Рік тому +121

    Tracers are absolutely a problem, I noticed spray control is way harder because my eyes default to relying on the tracers, and so it’s really annoying. It just felt like they added tracers for the sake of graphical fidelity.

    • @Rosterized
      @Rosterized Рік тому +10

      tbh even if tracers were not totally accurate in csgo either thats pretty much how i learned to spray, i could not spray in CSS at all when csgo had tracers it finally clicked for me

    • @ZeMilchMann
      @ZeMilchMann Рік тому +1

      ​@@Rosterizedyou might be able to try the cross hair setting

    • @BobrLovr
      @BobrLovr Рік тому

      aim for the head and tap, spraying is for very low rated players.

    • @VengeanceCore
      @VengeanceCore Рік тому +1

      Tracers look perfect to me, turn on folow recoil on crosshaire, they match, and the bullets go on top of the tracers. Crazy how thats the problem u have and every one of my games is getting insta peek head shot no matter ware i am in the map, Games trash

    • @robbytherob
      @robbytherob Рік тому

      Elaborate. Is it trash because it’s easy for you or are you the one getting headshotted?

  • @coSocks
    @coSocks Рік тому +7

    One more issue I personally have is that they decided to remove being able to check how much damage you did in the console when you die, instead they show how much damage you did in the NEXT ROUND. Very useful information going into a new round, tell your teammates how much you lit the enemies last round, so smart.

    • @lorenzooliveira1157
      @lorenzooliveira1157 Рік тому

      It’s a change to the core of comp that isn’t necessarily bad or good imo

    • @coSocks
      @coSocks Рік тому +1

      @@lorenzooliveira1157 id say it’s bad, you can’t even comm for your team if any of the enemies are lit (except if you lit a guy and he kills you, it still shows how much you hit him)

  • @Jonas-fr3yd
    @Jonas-fr3yd Рік тому +49

    Bob settings, war games, viewmodel recoil, workshop, are some of the things Im waiting for them to add, also hope they are working on a new operation, its been two years since the last one.

    • @darcy5754
      @darcy5754 Рік тому +8

      Cant believe bob setting are gone, like why.

    • @mccraftingtablelmao6204
      @mccraftingtablelmao6204 Рік тому +2

      what they did to bob he didnt do anything

    • @lorenzooliveira1157
      @lorenzooliveira1157 Рік тому

      I bet that workshop access will be available in 2024, since they’re still fixing the major issues and smoothing the rough edges

  • @bliiblaablue
    @bliiblaablue Рік тому +86

    I'm not a great player, but I do struggle a lot more on CS2 with my favorite weapons, such as the MP9. The new bullet traces are completely confusing when trying to aligning the shots.

    • @StillConfusing
      @StillConfusing Рік тому +6

      i'm in the same boat, I hit shots I feel should whiff and I whiff shots that the tracers go straight thru the enemies

    • @whatareyoudoingthis4
      @whatareyoudoingthis4 Рік тому +1

      Thought the same but after 20-30 games I dont notice much difference at all, it was way more confusing during beta than it is now. Ive noticed I've ended up playing all kinds of weapons I'd usually avoid as well which is great

    • @not_sure_about_that_but
      @not_sure_about_that_but Рік тому

      For me it's the M4A1S I can't spray shit at medium range with it anymore idk what happened or maybe I was always bad lol💀

    • @dtreezy
      @dtreezy Рік тому +1

      I had to turn on follow recoil...Spraying feels weird in cs2 for sure

    • @EdwinTyler
      @EdwinTyler Рік тому

      I thought I was the only one having problems with MP9. I used consistently dink multiple people with it in CS GO and even get multiple kills sometimes. In CS 2 I'm barely getting even 1-2 hits with it.

  • @JackoTJK
    @JackoTJK Рік тому +20

    The day of the release hit reg definitely felt crisper. Not GO crisper but better. The biggest problem is when hits are calculated sub-tick but the firing animation is the next tick. It makes spraying feel weird

    • @lorenzooliveira1157
      @lorenzooliveira1157 Рік тому

      Yep, I’ve noticed that with the spray recoil assist is a bit behind from the actual server spray

  • @rhandycs
    @rhandycs Рік тому +23

    i was mainly excited to see what they could do with new gamemodes and stuff with the new engine. i was actually for once excited about how much smoother dangerzone could be on the new engine for example. but all we got was a slightly reworked mm experience

  • @wsewlal
    @wsewlal Рік тому +38

    After 23 years, de_dust2 and nuke are still instantly recognizable. That is some amazing map design for it to look exactly the same, even in dimensions.

    • @Greatlakessailing
      @Greatlakessailing Рік тому +5

      Office looks basically the same too.

    • @a_wild_Kirillian
      @a_wild_Kirillian Рік тому +1

      ​​@@garliconionshallot, I find it amusing that you've spent several paragraphs describing that we recognize things because their basic, defining qualities stay the same =)

    • @tylersimmons7105
      @tylersimmons7105 Рік тому +1

      ​@@GreatlakessailingOffice looked so great in Source with that blue and wood coloring. The backrooms gas station bathroom color palette of CSGO Office sucked, but fortunately the CS2 version looks much better.

  • @Jake.........................
    @Jake......................... Рік тому +16

    The tracers are kinda weird. Throw on a mac10 or mp9 and you literally can't miss if you use the tracers as an aid. But on the ak and a4 it just throws you off, probably because you're seeing the tracers from 2-3 bullets ago, so you process it wrong and end up not pulling down enough or staying on one side of the spray for too long.
    I guess it might depend on the spray pattern for the gun because with the galil the tracers also feel pretty helpful. A lot of people I've talked to said the galil feels better but no one can really say why. Could be the tracers making them more accurate.

  • @fatsoula6297
    @fatsoula6297 Рік тому +51

    Valve with every update are doing insane things. On launch I was getting 130-150 fps in comp and now im getting stable 190-200. Things are looking bright!

    • @louiscruz624
      @louiscruz624 Рік тому +2

      But it's a red flag that these basic things weren't picked up in the closed beta in April

    • @thorjelly
      @thorjelly Рік тому +15

      @@louiscruz624 a red flag for what? optimizations after launch are completely normal because you have access to a lot more performance data, you don't cover everybody's hardware during a closed beta.

    • @XEROXAYUKI
      @XEROXAYUKI Рік тому

      ​@@louiscruz624wtf is a red flag here?
      Its called TEST for a reason.

    • @louiscruz624
      @louiscruz624 Рік тому +3

      @@XEROXAYUKI it's also a red flag that they didn't know the yellow health bar was a bad idea and that you couldn't tell you were low health. They only got the feedback and replaced it in the limited test
      Basically all signs that the development was undercooked

    • @kaspars804
      @kaspars804 Рік тому +1

      @@louiscruz624 do you always know if people are going to laugh at your humour before you attempt it? I think you're being unreasonable here.

  • @purplecontroller9071
    @purplecontroller9071 Рік тому +16

    Biggest issue I have and I know a lot of people who have is performance. So many freezes/crashes and random disconnects for no reason other than "game said no" fingers crossed they fix these issues in time but I hate the idea CSGO worked perfect 99% of the time yet CS2 is a 50/50 coin flip on whether it's going to perform well on that day.

    • @ceshmate1953
      @ceshmate1953 Рік тому +1

      turn particles to a lower setting maybe ? Helps with performance for some.

    • @do.xuantung
      @do.xuantung Рік тому +2

      Yeah mid tier card only from few years ago are struggling, not everyone is cranking high end money for graphic cards.

    • @purplecontroller9071
      @purplecontroller9071 Рік тому +4

      @@ceshmate1953 there isn't any settings being changed that fix the issue for a lot of people, I can't find another game I cannot run on my pc yet cs2 runs like ass, issue is with the game not the pc

    • @MisterBrausepulver
      @MisterBrausepulver Рік тому

      It's been a while since I played csgo but cs2 feels much more smooth and performant to me

  • @snorrekr
    @snorrekr Рік тому +5

    The DM map groupings are great. When all the maps where available I mostly ended up with mirage and dust 2, if not people would vote to change the map to them. Now I have the option to avoid them all together.

  • @do.xuantung
    @do.xuantung Рік тому +7

    I used to do spray transfer 180, 1v4 clutch from pool inferno with 4 secs left, now I can't spray an enemy 2 meter in front ;D. The tracers made cs2 feel like it has bullet travel time. You kinda spraying in the past, bullets travelled already, they just haven't appeared to be that way yet.

  • @e3.14c4
    @e3.14c4 Рік тому +5

    My first reaction to not wanting to win 10 matches on a map was a very valid counterpoint. With how long term we've played the game before without our rank resetting, imagine the gratification of ranking up on a series of maps in one day after practicing something new, or just in general play seeing where your weak points are in terms of rank, etc. But for one off players, the ranks per map are never going to matter and they'll sabotage queue into premier anyways.

  • @D4rkSlay3rGam1ng
    @D4rkSlay3rGam1ng Рік тому

    new sub here because I watch your previous video last time and thanks for this video now I know about CS2 can't wait to play with you soon I'm a CS player since 2020 hello from the Philippines

  • @srecky7822
    @srecky7822 Рік тому +4

    I really love the starcraft soundtracks that you use. Talking about a game i played for my whole life while listening to music from another game i played my whole life is amazing

  • @DrBob66
    @DrBob66 Рік тому +27

    I was so surprised the game launched, for the past few days I actually still thought it was in beta... it really should still be an open beta, this isn't finished. Bare minimum we at least need everything that was in CSGO

    • @leddy_
      @leddy_ Рік тому +9

      I thought people were being silly for thinking valve would completely overwrite CSGO with CS2 when its release was teased last week, at least when CS2 isn't ready to replace it yet. Like, it's good that they are releasing CS2 for everyone but come on guys, they would be insane to do that! Guess I'm naïve...

    • @Allmachtsdackel
      @Allmachtsdackel Рік тому

      I disagree. By replacing CSGO with CS2, the team is now getting more and more knowledge about the weaknesses of the code. SAme time, they are under more pressure to get things done, because there is "no other option" (CSGO). I hope that, with the immense feedback of the whole player base, the game will quickly grow in features and stability.

  • @Sjores87
    @Sjores87 11 місяців тому +2

    "the two things CS2 has to get right is a good matchmaking system and anti-cheat" oh man, 3 months after this video came out, this remark makes me laugh and cry at the same time..

  • @excellenceinanimation960
    @excellenceinanimation960 Рік тому +38

    Iv got a lot of faith in cs2 but I’m a bit anoyed with especially sprays and getting shot behind stuff. It also feels like I’m hitting and missing shots I should not be. Overall I am optimistic and can’t wait to see where it goes from here!

    • @Diopside.
      @Diopside. Рік тому +8

      I am experiencing like these subtick issues, I am behind wall still got headshotted, im behind wall and I headshotted some one, game feels like it's 16 ticks at it's best...

    • @excellenceinanimation960
      @excellenceinanimation960 Рік тому +1

      @@Diopside. I hope they fix that and the spray. I point blank was spraying someone yesterday. And every butler missed. It was point blank I was aiming st his feet snd didn’t get the kill very very frustrating. Even my opponents were a bit confused.

    • @BMac420
      @BMac420 Рік тому +1

      @@Diopside.subtick doesn’t have anything to do with your client side player position

    • @Diopside.
      @Diopside. Рік тому

      @@BMac420 buddy it's confirmed that subtick causing lag compensation issue which increases "ms" and causing this dumb shit issue.

    • @SneedsterSpeedster
      @SneedsterSpeedster Рік тому +1

      ​@brian1were Information to the player is still sent at 64 ticks while information like when you shoot is processed immediately, meaning there is a delay between when you actually died according to the server and when you get that information yourself. It's causing people to die in situations where they were behind a wall fairly commonly.

  • @IceinVeins.3d
    @IceinVeins.3d Рік тому +4

    We are currently on Oct 2 build, game is getting better with each build. I hope they do something about player collision, its throwing my player in different directions when running alongside teammate.

  • @iamkras
    @iamkras Рік тому +1

    i was sad to see that community maps are gonna come later, i feel like it's such an integral part of cs to spend a few minutes warming up before hopping onto a match or adjusting your crosshair

  • @toni6652
    @toni6652 Рік тому +9

    Its not ready yet. I think it needs a few more months till its ready

  • @InKleining
    @InKleining Рік тому +56

    Would of liked to see left hand view models regardless of what they are working on for it. Been playing CS with the left view model since 2014 and I’m playing so much worse without it

    • @steve42069master
      @steve42069master Рік тому +6

      not being able to switch between right/left is bugging me

    • @jaemotoo
      @jaemotoo Рік тому +15

      I would switch view model position based on what angles I was peeking/holding. Having screenshake and a massive weapon model blocking 1/3rd of the screen constantly is very frustrating

    • @ThatsTypical
      @ThatsTypical Рік тому +1

      @@jaemotooyou should def change your viewmodel settings, there are some really good console viewmodel settings that are gamechangers.

    • @skylinesenpai5554
      @skylinesenpai5554 Рік тому +7

      @@ThatsTypical No. Only the bare minimum is ingame currently. some of the most important settings like lefthanded and bobbing settings are not in yet and its aweful.

    • @KarlKognitiv
      @KarlKognitiv Рік тому +2

      Would've* (would have)

  • @correct_lee
    @correct_lee Рік тому

    Aight anchorman lmao!! Love the voice and vibe of the video, you need news fonts scrolling across the screen!!

  • @kdawgmaster
    @kdawgmaster Рік тому +21

    I instinctively follow the tracers as it makes sense thats where the shot would go. This has messed me up massively with the AK, but all other weapons seem to be fine. Galil seems far more spot on, M4 seems good so I'm wondering if this is just limited to the AK specifically.

    • @pixelated_horizon
      @pixelated_horizon Рік тому

      Yeahhh I agree with you. I personally after playing quite a no. of matches will say the AK feeels way more hard to control than it did in CSGO. Specially the part where you have to control the recoil, but your brain insticts lead you to follow the tracers coming out of the gun which mislead you. I many a times hit headshots where I thought I whiffed and am surprised. The Vice Versa is alsoo true tho..

    • @Cyberaser
      @Cyberaser Рік тому

      Yeah AK is the problem

  • @percilenis8464
    @percilenis8464 Рік тому +5

    Something is off with animations or server-client updates. There are far too many moments where your kill or death is substantially delayed by at least 100ms. This is multiple ticks worth of server updates that are just not being utilized. I don’t remember that happening in CSGO much even on 64 tick. Surely the sub stick window of 15ms in between ticks is not the issue as at most the difference between subtick information and the old plain tick update rate is at most 14ms.
    I hope this is fixable because I don’t think even 128 tick will be able to solve this problem.
    I don’t care about the lack of new content but I think the map pool needs rotation. Nobody wants to play Anubis, Ancient, and Vertigo. We need Train, Cobble, and Cache back.

  • @Danny_Zeledon
    @Danny_Zeledon Рік тому

    Havent seen your channel like in 3 years that I stopped playing CSGO. I start back at CS2 and of course my internet mentor comes back. Always glad and looking forward to learning from you!

  • @mantracs
    @mantracs Рік тому +4

    I don't think the skins are what is holding csgo's existence back. There are other games, made by valve, on steam that share inventories with specific items (limited few tf2 hats in portal 2 co-op)
    they could have ported all the skins into the new "cs2 inventory" and added a little piece to the description for the old csgo skins "also usable in csgo"
    this way they wouldn't have to worry about reverse porting skins or anything like that.
    I think the real reason is they don't want another community split. Think back to when csgo came out and how many people stayed on css, and even before that when css came out... they just don't want that to happen again so they forced everyone to move on

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru Рік тому

      It's safe to say that all other FPSes of Valve are dead. So people only interested in CS skins.

  • @6jeewon
    @6jeewon Рік тому +11

    Will you release a guide series for cs2 for the next generation of new players?

    • @TheWarOwl
      @TheWarOwl  Рік тому +14

      that's the plan!

    • @6jeewon
      @6jeewon Рік тому +1

      You are a gem to this community!

  • @jecoa174
    @jecoa174 Рік тому

    Unrelated but super proud of Mr Warowl, was watching some old videos and you’re in so much better shape now, I remember a video where you were really dogging on yourself about your physique and then one where you said you were on course to fix it. Super awesome how far you and your channel have come. ❤❤

  • @real-horse
    @real-horse Рік тому +51

    tbh the most painful part is the home button on the menu being all the way to the left when the inventory and such is top middle... that or the removal of factions (though we might get them back with new models)

    • @TheWarOwl
      @TheWarOwl  Рік тому +63

      if that's the most painful the game must be pretty good.

    • @DanielClear2
      @DanielClear2 Рік тому +1

      That's a regular design choice and has no dark patterns in it.
      The home button is clearly an icon, and it's beside the other icons.
      All web pages, including UA-cam, has the home button on the top left.
      Also, you barely interact with the home button. You can do nearly everything you can do in the home screen and more, via the Friends sidebar.

    • @DerFuchsJr
      @DerFuchsJr Рік тому

      they sell you these new models as skins probably

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 Рік тому

      the most painful thing is how they changed the buy menu causing me to buy a taser when I want a p250 or a flashbang when I want armor XD
      good thing they have the refund option now though...

  • @Plaugefauther
    @Plaugefauther Рік тому +8

    They did remove Danger Zone as well. I haven't seen (or least read into patch notes for not playing in a long time) anything that explained why... So that was an interesting removal for CS2.

    • @thorjelly
      @thorjelly Рік тому +3

      it was an interesting game mode, but no one was playing it so it doesn't surprise me at all that it was removed at launch

    • @Plaugefauther
      @Plaugefauther Рік тому

      @thorjelly fair enough. I enjoyed it with friends from time to time but it's a BR and they get old quick. Hope they come up with something new this time though!

    • @bleyd__
      @bleyd__ Рік тому +1

      They didny remove it, its just not updated yet

    • @RawbLV
      @RawbLV Рік тому +3

      The game just got released, wait for things to be added.

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru Рік тому +2

      I guess they had no time to perfect it and(or) maps are still under construction

  • @שחרכהן-ס7ר
    @שחרכהן-ס7ר Рік тому +1

    You are really on of my favorite youtubers!!!!

  • @samjohnson3287
    @samjohnson3287 Рік тому +26

    I think CS2 full release was, for all intents and purposes, an open beta. I can understand the pressure on valve to fully release and I believe they wanted to release it "in time" and release the rest of the modes and for them that was just easier to release it fully than call it a 'beta' and have everyone whine about it. I believe by the end of the year itll all be ironed out.

    • @wetter4293
      @wetter4293 Рік тому +6

      Id rather they break their promises and focus on quality

    • @whatareyoudoingthis4
      @whatareyoudoingthis4 Рік тому +5

      People are embarrassingly impatient too honestly. I miss cl_bob, left handed viewmodels, more than a couple maps etc. as well but I'm just sitting here vibing knowing that it'll all be sorted soon. Every update so far since the beta went sorta public has just been a positive experience IMO. I mean people can scream and cry as much as they want over it, I don't care, but I find that overly dramatic BS so silly

    • @wetter4293
      @wetter4293 Рік тому +17

      @@whatareyoudoingthis4 no - we set the expectation that this kind of behavior is okay. What the fuck happened in the past few years where it became acceptable to half release a game. As a corporation you need to be responsible for doing your own in house beta testing. When you say a games coming out, Im not saying it has to be perfect, but it should be *finished* - what if a doctor looked at you and said..."well, I don't REALLY know whats wrong cause I didnt finish my degree yet but as I study, Ill be able to give you better more accurate info about your diagnosis....", thats a shitty doctor...same for an architect, lawyer, janitor or GAMEDEV
      The only time releasing an unfinished game to the public is acceptable is if you're an indie dev studio....not now, not valve

    • @ZeMilchMann
      @ZeMilchMann Рік тому +2

      ​@@wetter4293while this might be true globally we as gamers let them get away with this. And there's a reason for it. We don't care. There's too many opinions out there. And people will play the game and spend money on skins. No matter what game it is

    • @Ken-lx6tv
      @Ken-lx6tv Рік тому

      @@wetter4293 the fucked up thing about the cs community is the bitchiness, i agree the game should have been better and more complete, but honestly after extensively playing cs2 it's not even close to being as bad as people say it is, and the fucked up part is everybody or close is wrong to why certain things are not working well, the amount of dumb shit i see on reddit and youtube by "community figures" who are genuinely talking out of their ass and quite often complain about an issue that doesn't exist is just sad, im not trying to say valve did perfect , far from it, if i had to decide i would just release a fully open beta and slowly work towards the end of the year, with that said what you said is true but you also have to remember how much people have been bitching about source2 constantly, every single day for years now, i think valve didn't do well but this community is honestly kind of embarassing, especially people like s1mple who can provide feedback to valve he just cries on twitter lmao, also valve has HUGELY improved cs2 with very frequent updates, when you take all that into consideration idk man i feel like the cs community is so childish

  • @theoreminegaming
    @theoreminegaming Рік тому +19

    Any plans for a return to counter strike refresher video, with how the new stuff works and refreshers of the old with new considered (like utility, weapon loadouts with economy and team roles, new competitive systems, etc)?

  • @SethTooQuick
    @SethTooQuick Рік тому

    3:23 Source 2 SFM can open CS2 demos. So if things like edits are what you had in mind here, SFM can do that.

  • @ttolstedt
    @ttolstedt Рік тому +4

    My friends and I got super excited when CS2 dropped. My friend, with 100 hours in the game, was matched against players with 3000+ hours. We haven’t played since Thursday. it’s going to be difficult to convince him to play this game if that continues to happen

    • @Verbux
      @Verbux Рік тому +3

      It’ll take a while for ranks to normalise

    • @Max-oo1xw
      @Max-oo1xw Рік тому +3

      As he said, its not much fun for both sides. I have 3k+ hours and I always have to play with people who seem to be playing the first time or had low ranks in csgo. I had games where I had 40+ kills and the rest of my team had under 10 (we lost btw...). I wouldnt complain if these stats would actually seem to matter for your rating but some of my friends got a 2k rating so I believe the system is just a bit broken currently.

    • @GorzFCD
      @GorzFCD Рік тому

      @@Max-oo1xwk

    • @louiscruz624
      @louiscruz624 Рік тому

      ​@@Max-oo1xwYeah I got some 40ks and got a 1500 rating

    • @qu1253
      @qu1253 Рік тому

      Counter-Strike in general seems like the kind of game you can only get into if you dedicate 100% of your free time to it and never play anything else.

  • @nanni5230
    @nanni5230 Рік тому +39

    Personally i think the lack of left hand view model, is due to the smoke tracers. From the left hand, the position of the holes in the smoke might be different from the right hand due to the view model

    • @percilenis8464
      @percilenis8464 Рік тому +13

      You shoot from your head, the view model doesn’t change where you bullets come from or how the smoke holes are rendered

    • @joshnicholsYT
      @joshnicholsYT Рік тому +5

      @@percilenis8464 the smoke holes are view model based and it's most apparent when shooting a smoke from a couple feet away

    • @kdee1428
      @kdee1428 Рік тому +1

      I believe its because of now the players can see their own shadows and in csgo all viewmodel settings including left and right hand settings were only client (i.e only players themselves can see it) so holding the gun on left hand but seeing our shadow holding it on right would be very wierd... I also believe that now in cs2 player's own body is rendered for player's client itself for shadows because previously in csgo the engine doesn't render player's own body hence no shadow.

    • @nanni5230
      @nanni5230 Рік тому +1

      @percilenis8464 Stand super close to the smoke and you can see that what you said is not true

    • @quaker5712
      @quaker5712 Рік тому

      ​@@nanni5230 You're both right! Visually the bullet comes out of the gun, game play wise it comes out the head through the crosshair. Stand close to a corner, aim just off the edge and watch the bullets go through the wall.

  • @damo06ab
    @damo06ab Рік тому

    In online chess when you open an account it gives you a visible temporary estimated elo rank and when you’ve played 10 games or so it gives you your actual rank even if you’ve lost them all. This would be SO much better imo. Especially if there are going to be multiple season per year.

  • @Zucth
    @Zucth Рік тому +6

    It's so frustrate that I can pick only a few weapon out of all the circle that I used to have. Sometime the game really want me to pick nagev for a reason 🔥

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru Рік тому +2

      Having both m4s in buy menu looks promising, but i never did that because of economy😅

    • @smitias_8474
      @smitias_8474 Рік тому +1

      I like how it works with pistols. Now I can have both CZ and 5-7. Rifles are fine. But there are too many SMGs, LMGs and Shotguns for 5 slots. I think game needs more mid-tier slots.

  • @BLiNK129
    @BLiNK129 Рік тому +4

    The lack of support for Community Servers and Workshop maps is the worst part in my opinion. Community servers is what makes CS so distinct from most other games but I guess it isn't important enough to even mention. Damn.

  • @MintyPolaroid
    @MintyPolaroid Рік тому

    7:06 I just noticed, nice flashblang transition edit here

  • @sourceeee
    @sourceeee Рік тому +5

    It’s somehow both a step forward and a regression, and I don’t quite know how to feel about that

  • @nicolau2
    @nicolau2 Рік тому +5

    Left handed models would mess the smoke penetration thing.
    You could spam the left right hand model and make a huge whole on the smoke.
    Think about it
    I think it wont happened at all

    • @FightStreeting
      @FightStreeting Рік тому

      Bullets still come from your eyes, not your gun, think about it.

    • @Max-oo1xw
      @Max-oo1xw Рік тому +1

      No, because the bullets shoot out of your head not your gun which means switching from left to right wont make any difference. Think about it...

    • @lord_razur
      @lord_razur Рік тому +1

      While your shots come from your face the smoke holes are actually hardcoded to appear _slightly_ offset from your crosshair, a little bit to the right. Used to be that it changed depending on your viewmodel offsets as well. I assume this is done to prevent getting an _incredibly_ clear view when firing through smoke.

    • @nicolau2
      @nicolau2 Рік тому

      @@Max-oo1xw The animation clearly has the hole on the smoke displaced to the right side and lower than your eyes. Thats why you don't see perfectly through the hole.
      Go into a server a try it out and try to notice the hole in the smoke

    • @nicolau2
      @nicolau2 Рік тому

      @@lord_razur Yes, this is what I mean. It's not only offset to the right, but also a bit lower. Simulating where the gun is, not your eyesight

  • @cerionic6733
    @cerionic6733 Рік тому +1

    One thing I’m not a super big fan of is that they got rid of map based Ct and T skins, I get that its a very minor part of the game and it doesn’t do much. Nobody had a problem with the default skins as they worked well for the maps they were on. Dark SAS on bright orange mirage for example. I feel like it would be very easy to port over to CS2

  • @fakuhu178
    @fakuhu178 Рік тому +42

    I feel like the hitreg is improved from usual 64 tick but from 128tick its not. I train aim alot (Like really alot) and I feel like this improved the consistency. But sometimes the visual feedback lags behind making it seem like your hit behind walls and stuff

    • @barnabyhughes2084
      @barnabyhughes2084 Рік тому +9

      Been really frustrating experience for me. I never had network issues in CSGO but in CS2 every match my ping is 20-40 higher than anyone else and it seems to make a massive difference. I am dying fully behind cover a lot more, getting killed by people peeking angles I am holding without seeing them. Hitting people behind where they are. Very frustrating to be forced into an incomplete game.

    • @HkRose
      @HkRose Рік тому

      This is every kill I get and death. I kill people around corners and they do the same the tick rate is completely fucked 64 tick was better at registering and 128 tick like faceit feels WILDLY better than this shit

    • @electric26
      @electric26 Рік тому +3

      ​@@barnabyhughes2084peeker's advantage was always a thing, but it seems much worse in CS2.

    • @ennisdelmar807
      @ennisdelmar807 Рік тому +5

      wiggle peaking gives my ptsd now. The amount of times you die behind the wall is sad.

    • @dominickd16
      @dominickd16 Рік тому

      they need to fix the wall bangs. A lot of stuff that weren't able to shoot through are able now and I die a lot more from the edge of a wall or some box.

  • @Askemanden
    @Askemanden Рік тому +8

    I agree that the hitreg/smoothness feels better than the limited test but spraying is still impossible

    • @Max-oo1xw
      @Max-oo1xw Рік тому +3

      Yeah I can agree. I stopped counting how often the enemy shots apparently still hit me when, on my screen, I was already behind a massive stone wall...

    • @funtourhawk
      @funtourhawk Рік тому

      congrats you're just bad

    • @inasatok
      @inasatok Рік тому

      why would it be impossible? its the same as in csgo. even a monkey can learn the patterns if they want.

    • @papahellmann
      @papahellmann Рік тому

      literally the same

    • @Askemanden
      @Askemanden Рік тому +1

      @@funtourhawk I’m 2150 elo on Faceit. Literally top 0,1% of players

  • @rtdfvbtr
    @rtdfvbtr Рік тому +1

    how do you not see this coming - valve always fucks up the updates

  • @iAmKoKash
    @iAmKoKash Рік тому +8

    So, could we please have some of the youtubers to point out the problems, rather than kiss their asses all the time??

  • @steyyJ
    @steyyJ Рік тому +8

    There needs to be more community support. I need a way to host my own server and add plugins to it.
    Not having sourcemod totally sucks.

  • @seriousspikesam7770
    @seriousspikesam7770 Рік тому +1

    I mean, I was headed for Nuke and found myself under the Mirage map. I also got a Mirage... mirage on Dust II with random props spawning in. That was something new, right?

  • @flydrop8822
    @flydrop8822 Рік тому +3

    The only really terrible thing is the removal of the original CS:GO. It's the same that happened with Overwatch and I hate it, it's a removal of the game's history and is detrimental to the growth of CS 2's meta. Having the original CSGO be playable and testable would work as a static base to test features since the game wouldn't update anymore.

  • @earthling_parth
    @earthling_parth Рік тому +34

    The most balanced and level-headed take on the CS2 release so far! Thanks as always Warowl ❤

  • @TruNorthFit
    @TruNorthFit Рік тому

    Been years since I've seen a warowl video, you're looking lean af!! good for you man!

  • @thepunisherxxx6804
    @thepunisherxxx6804 Рік тому +4

    I like it, but as a new game I expected a bit more. Matchmaking still feels very unfair and wonky. Whatever algo they use to determine skill and match people is not nearly as good as something like COD. In COD people actually get mad at how good it is! They should have just bought Faceit and integrated their tech into CS2. All their money, it makes so much sense.
    There also some things I was expecting to be new like weapon animations for example. 11 years old at this point. MW2019 raised the bar here and Valve needs to meet that. Maybe sell animations that have the same timing but look different? Id buy.
    Other things like deathmatch still having the same crappy spawns, limited modes (no gun game), no DM specific maps, AI still is incredibly dumb. I also kind of want some changes. Like we have had CSGO for 10 years. Introduce some new things, take some risks. Make some guns viable that are awful like the revolver or CZ. Consider riot shield? New equipment? Lets freshen it up! Of course respect what CS is but they can still add more.

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 Рік тому

      most people don't have a rank yet, think that's the main issue with matchmaking atm. and this new ranking system isn't exactly helping....

  • @Fenseone
    @Fenseone Рік тому

    Not a lot of people know is that, during the creation of Counter Strike, the artist that created viewmodels was left handed. So in 1.6 all guns are right on the left handed, and mirrored on the right handed. It's funny how now the problem is exact opposite

  • @soad11dude
    @soad11dude Рік тому +3

    I've been getting brutal frame time stutters (AMD GPU). I can tell it's caused by shaders compiling, it has a certain feel to it. I did not have that in CSGO.
    It usually happens when viewing something on a map for the first time... like smokes, bullet tracers or... an enemy player.
    It's lost me pistol rounds on a few occasions. Now that it is first to 13.. pistol rounds are that much more important. It pushed me away from the game entirely.
    When there is enough competition on the market, you can't do stuff like this to your player base. Especially those with lower end hardware that cannot afford to upgrade.
    I paid for CS GO. I never agreed or consented to it being taken away. All the achievements are gone too.
    Any other company would be hung for this. Valve should not get a pass for ruining the game we all spent the last decade playing.

    • @flo.9908
      @flo.9908 Рік тому

      i had the same but when i played for a little bit it stopped completely

    • @forwardtsender8573
      @forwardtsender8573 Рік тому

      Wait, so the shaders never stop compiling for you? Sounds like a serious bug in that case.

    • @soad11dude
      @soad11dude Рік тому

      @@forwardtsender8573 It's a known bug for AMD video cards.... My buddy has a gtx1080 and doesn't have any problems. I've heard it's being fixed though

  • @istvanlorinczi2817
    @istvanlorinczi2817 Рік тому +9

    My heart goes out to the guy that made the rouge-like map for CSGO. Yeah we knew CS2 was coming, so it would get less traffic, but Valve just removing CSGO is such a weird choice, and now nobody can play it
    Anyway, new game just feels weirder, and a lot less consistent then CSGO did, and lacking net_graph also doesn't help. Sometimes the game just drops from 120 fps to 30 (where CSGO was a stable 250-300), and sometimes it feels like my ping skyrockets, but the only way to check is on the scoreboard, which updates really slowly, and not really something I can check while peeking a corner

  • @siilentr3839
    @siilentr3839 Рік тому

    There was a youtube short that had a military turret firing into the dark. Someone in the comments said "every 5 bullets shot by the cannons have tracer bullets effect, so you dont actually see every bullets." if this person is correct, bullet tracers are a manufacted bullet design

  • @nickwhitegames
    @nickwhitegames Рік тому +16

    I honestly liked the tracers because they were very readable as far as someone shooting at me. So I felt like it was easier to tell where I was shot from.
    That being said, I’m not good enough for it to hinder me but still get that if your own tracers are not accurate, it can get confusing.

    • @papahellmann
      @papahellmann Рік тому +7

      Disabling tracers in csgo only disabled the tracers you were shooting, it never removed them from the game, everything else was still normal- so you were able to really only remove the misinformation, thats what people are asking for now, there seemed to be no reason to remove this so people were pissed

  • @Harmenjoe
    @Harmenjoe Рік тому +11

    I know it doesn't sound like a lot, but for me the most annoying thing is to not now for sure hoe many enemies are left alive. Played csgo since 2016 and always just had the number up there, now I have to actively keep track and manually count the amount of heads up there in a clutch

    • @trisfaleel
      @trisfaleel Рік тому +3

      There’s a little number under the score line so maybe try that until they add the other option back

    • @papahellmann
      @papahellmann Рік тому +1

      This sounds so pathetic lmao I’m sorry🤣🤣🤣 “now I need to count” sorry bro, we’ll put up some candles for you later

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru Рік тому +1

      Always played without number because during the game you have to learn how the other team plays. If B ancker just pushed and died, you know what to do. Same with lurker.

    • @Harmenjoe
      @Harmenjoe Рік тому +1

      @@papahellmann no need for this

    • @ponderwonder
      @ponderwonder Рік тому +1

      ​@@papahellmann Sounds pathetic if you're reductive about it. You could just show the individual rounds left in your magazine as well, but it's a terrible user experience, and a number makes more sense.

  • @MNFire29
    @MNFire29 Рік тому +1

    I'm a brand new player to CS and it is INCREDIBLY fun. I obsoletely love it. I know nothing about the game before CS2 and this was very inciteful. But I feel like I'm coming into the game at an important time where I will be able to have lots of fun for the next couple of years. I don't have any complaints about the game, and it feels very complete. And the people I have played ranked with are really nice and supportive.

    • @lorenzooliveira1157
      @lorenzooliveira1157 Рік тому

      You’ll certainly enjoy it a lot!
      Mess with the settings and find what works best for you, and practice with the weapons to get the feel right :D
      Welcome to CS2, and have fun ❤

    • @DonPrecedens
      @DonPrecedens Рік тому +1

      CS:2 is improvement to csgo and people are overdramatizing. It will also be updated since it launched like 2 weeks ago. I've played since cs 1.5 and most fun was obviously 1.6 but cs2 is enjoyable as well. What they did fix in CS:2 is phantom deaths where you would be dead even before you could see enemy due to server ticks. The only problem I have, like stated in this video, is arbitrary map packs for casual, makes no sense and all maps should be on rotation.

  • @thejayman90
    @thejayman90 Рік тому +5

    Warowl being a fair person and giving correct criticism as usual, also about the left handed thing is very interesting as it seems the smoke and bullet interaction is only "possible" if the gun is in the right hand where the holes are only accurate to the right side of your character. If they just add left handed it would make no sense where the holes are going because they are going through the right side you know?

    • @RayJames-mk3yq
      @RayJames-mk3yq Рік тому

      the holes should be where the hitscan bullets are, the middle of your head, it's silly that they did it otherwise. and not worth killing left hand for.

    • @papahellmann
      @papahellmann Рік тому

      Actually who cares if it looks weird, people were setting their view model left because the gun distracts your dominant eye that you use to take up information- this is counterstrike, people were playing 640x480 in 2023 still because they thought it was giving them an advantage- removing arbitrary things for no good reason will of course make people angry. It should be a choice, look weird but play better, or if it’s all about the visuals leave it and don’t turn it on simple.

  • @Vayes
    @Vayes Рік тому +5

    they pulled an overwatch 2

  • @RasmusStagelund
    @RasmusStagelund Рік тому

    After all these years I just realized he doesn't say "closure" at the end

  • @jbc5099
    @jbc5099 Рік тому +13

    I really like the chess analogy. In chess the opening moves are all known, the middle of the game can either go down a familiar route or a new path, and no endgame state is the same.

    • @wetter4293
      @wetter4293 Рік тому

      Simple in nature until you consider the possibilities and people are still discovering new ones about both games...too bad valve had to ruin it...

    • @Naraga033
      @Naraga033 Рік тому

      Actually endgames are very similar. One of the easiest ways to gain rating in chess is to study endgame knowledge and then play a very passive game trading into a equal/slightly favoured endgame and closing it out.

    • @jbc5099
      @jbc5099 Рік тому

      @@Naraga033 I was speaking more about the specific board/game state than tactics or approach.

  • @miltos269
    @miltos269 Рік тому +5

    The game looks stunning and i am sure it will make for an even better esport! It just sucks because, as i feared, I can no longer play the game as it's way too heavy on my laptop

    • @dzudemlow
      @dzudemlow Рік тому

      Why would you even bother to play cs on a laptop? 60Hz screen I'm guessing?

    • @miltos269
      @miltos269 Рік тому

      @@dzudemlow it run fairly well , i had 60 fps and mainly played wingman, retakes or 5stack comp on low Gold Nova

    • @miltos269
      @miltos269 Рік тому

      @@dzudemlow 60 yeah

    • @dzudemlow
      @dzudemlow Рік тому

      @@miltos269 That's the whole issue, might run well and capped on 60 but everyone else with a 144hz+ screen will see you way earlier and be able to react to everything way quicker while also having more fluent gameplay. I doubt you can get to high elo on 60hz honestly unless you're an absolute unit and a little lucky

    • @miltos269
      @miltos269 Рік тому

      @@dzudemlow it's low gold nova bruv, people there still learning how to wipe their ass, i am physically incapable of playing high elo so i don't really care , that's why i only 5stack