I still can't believe Scott Hall is not with us anymore.😔 I grew up watching him, from the early 90's, to the WWE'S mid 90's as Razor Ramon to his surprise debut on WCW Nitro, to him being part of the NWO throughout the late 90's, during the big pro wrestling Golden Era boom period, and through his second return to WWE in 2002, to his TNA career. That man did some extraordinary promos...he can be a heel & Babyface and captive the audience and viewers...he became a larger than life mainstream star, who became a pop-Culture phenomenon. You just felt like Scott Hall was always around and will pop up and say " Hey Yo!" I guess it's because he was a part of my childhood and teenage years and early 20's, and I got experienced and witnessed his career as a fan...it's hard to process that he died. He had a legendary & iconic stored career, from (1984-2010) He had an out of this World, mind for the business. RIP Scott Hall/ Razor Ramon God speed Chico (1958-2022) 💪💪
Scott Hall's matches with Goldberg and Nash were pure WCW gold in my book. I remember watching him for the first time back in the fall of '99. The first time I watched him, I instantly got hooked.
Meltzer is insane the sting hall match at uncensored 98 is one of my favorite ppv matches ever sting is my favorite and scott is not far behind him and hall put on a selling clinic you wanna see great selling watch that match...freaking awesome match
Yes Scott did wear his Razor gear under his Outsiders gear on Nitro in a ladder match against Bam Bam, and he did actually mention 'The Huckster' in his opening promo.
In regards to the Jericho win over Scott Hall, I believe Scott has said that the original idea was for him to go over on Jericho but Scott decided to go into business for himself and let Jericho win in an attempt to get a better match. Therefore it wouldn't have been a concentrated attempt to have another 123 Kid moment. Maybe Scott has this in mind though 🤔
Extremely dissapointed Conrad is not co-hosting this episode (which we've all been waiting and requesting for such a long time) especially now Scott Hall has passed away. This story deserves the main cast and a proper follow up to part 1. The show doesn't work without Conrad. Not good.
It is a gimmick, silly. Dave is ATM Eric’s foil so it makes it entertaining but he over does it and it gets cliche and uninteresting. Eric was on Observer Radio around the time he botched the purchase of WcW
@@postreading6889 I mean it’s a podcast. Not a show. I don’t see what makes you think it’s a gimmick. All I pick up is that it’s legitimately uninteresting, to have every single episode being a read of meltzers account and then asking Eric “so what do u think?”. Go ride meltzer somewhere else, silly
@@chico1680 yea probably the 2nd greatest manager ever. Definitely influenced people like Heyman. Certainly had a lot to do with Kane, Montreal etc. There's so much residual influence from Cornette, it's ridiculous.
I don't think it was ever about Russo being chosen "over" him. They worked together and then worked together again in TNA. I wouldn't debate Russo either. Russo is almost universally disliked and jim is almost universally appreciated among their peers. That tells the story for me.
Jim (In OVW) trained/booked/taught Randy Orton, Broke Lesnar and Dave Bastista.....that's what Jim has contributed until this day.....come on Eric....I love you....come on now ha
@@Rschr101 business went down when those 2 left? Lmao. What version of "facts/evidence" are you using? Haha. Ratings started to already continuously go down just moths after the "invasion" and by the time those 2 left, the rating were already down below by more than 2 points. However, WWE was more profitable than ever after those 2 left.......ssssooooo.....
The difference is that Hogan was the demonstrated biggest draw in the history of wrestling at this point. He was a key part to genuinely bringing WCW above WWF at this time. Tony on the other hand has given punk they treatment but punk hasn’t been the business changer for aew to justify the trearment.
Loved this episode. It’s nice when you have a co host for Eric who doesn’t act like all the bullshit Dave Meltzer printed is true. Conrad takes so many little shots and has to be a sarcastic smart ass constantly, it gets annoying to listen to. Dave printed lies, gossip, and opinions as facts for years. He constantly attacked both main companies because the people running those companies treated him like the parasite he is. Eric pointed this out perfectly…Look at all the drama in AEW now, it’s so clear that as Dave used to say “ the inmates are running the asylum.” Weirdly enough though, Dave just sweeps it aside, puts over Tony, and puts over his butt buddies Jericho and the elite. It’s so clear that Jericho, omega, and the little buckaroos just tell him what to say…and then Dave says it. He’s an AEW cheerleader because they invite him to events and treat him like he matters, so he gets down on his knees and opens wide lol. Every match is five stars, Tony is the best booker ever, cm punk is the problem in the locker room, and the elite dbags are some of the best wrestlers ever 😂. Everything Eric has said about Dave for years is true, hopefully Conrad stops quoting him like he’s a real journalist so the shows can be better.
The drama around the Hogan creative control thing is always overblown. Mostly because top stars like Hogan realistically don’t even need it. The idea that the top stars haven’t always had major sway in their stories is silly.
Bischoff is full of shit about Hogan only using creative control once. Hall admits Hogan used it to split up Hall and Nash with NWO black and white and the Wolf Pac. Why the hell would Hall want to go against Nash? Doesn’t work for me, brother.
He’s acknowledged it previously. A specific instance that comes to mind is that he has said that he went to Nash and Hall prior to signing Bret Hart to get them to waive their favored nations clause. On that episode he mentions that the clause had some nuance to it to where it was only applicable to certain levels of wrestlers and not applicable to all wrestlers signed as Hall and Nash have always claimed. And I would buy that claim over what Nash and Hall have always said. An easy example of why the clause wasn’t as broad as Nash and Hall have portrayed it is just to look at the payroll data that was made public in a court case against WCW. They provided all the pay for wrestlers between 1996 - 2000 and their contracts as part of that case. When you compare their pay to the roster if their clause was what they have claimed it was they’d have made as much as Hogan, Hart and Goldberg. But they didn’t make that much. They did make more than guys like Sting and DDP though, so I think there’s credence to the claim that they did have some form of it as applied to certain people.
The former C squad WcW announcer with the C squad podcast host. Connie is better versed in doing these high profile shows. Let this other dude improve and practice but not in this context as ATM Eric would say
Thank God Casio didn't wear YELLOW or ORANGE! Now he only looks like Jaundice instead of a Bright Version of an Albino with Jaundice. Love ya Casio!...tell Eric to eat something.
i loved wcw and wwe. but man the NWO was mint... Steiner Hogan Nash Hall Sting Buff the Stuff besides 89 to 94 WWF ERA WCW might have been the best! Woooo
Sorry, not trying to disrespect the new guy, but Conrad is as much a reason I watch these podcasts as Eric/Bruce/Whomever and it's really disappointing to see him MIA for this topic. I'm too used to the chemistry he has with his co-hosts. If he's busy or backed up, I don't mind waiting.
R.I.P Scott Hall 🤘🏽
It took a minute for part 2 but better late than never, I love the old school intro
2 years
I still can't believe Scott Hall is not with us anymore.😔
I grew up watching him, from the early 90's, to the WWE'S mid 90's as Razor Ramon to his surprise debut on WCW Nitro, to him being part of the NWO throughout the late 90's, during the big pro wrestling Golden Era boom period, and through his second return to WWE in 2002, to his TNA career.
That man did some extraordinary promos...he can be a heel & Babyface and captive the audience and viewers...he became a larger than life mainstream star, who became a pop-Culture phenomenon.
You just felt like Scott Hall was always around and will pop up and say " Hey Yo!"
I guess it's because he was a part of my childhood and teenage years and early 20's, and I got experienced and witnessed his career as a fan...it's hard to process that he died.
He had a legendary & iconic stored career, from (1984-2010)
He had an out of this World, mind for the business.
RIP Scott Hall/ Razor Ramon
God speed Chico
(1958-2022) 💪💪
can't believe??? yes, it's sad and it sucks but let's be honest.....we all, including Scott got lucky that we had him for as long as we did.....
Don’t be sad that he’s gone. Be happy he was here.
Honestly, was watching Nitro not too long ago, and it felt as if he were still here with us. 😊
Conrad isn't here and we're not getting an ad every 5 minutes...coincidence?
i skipped enough
Anything about Scott I’m watching !!liked the Raven Episode also 👍🏻
Scott Hall's matches with Goldberg and Nash were pure WCW gold in my book. I remember watching him for the first time back in the fall of '99. The first time I watched him, I instantly got hooked.
Meltzer is insane the sting hall match at uncensored 98 is one of my favorite ppv matches ever sting is my favorite and scott is not far behind him and hall put on a selling clinic you wanna see great selling watch that match...freaking awesome match
"..bad times don't last, but Bad Guys do." RIP 🤘🏼
Survey says...one more for The Bad Guy! ☝️
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2 sweet 🤘😎🐺 Wolfpac Rules Outsiders. Not forgotten 💞🙏🕊
RIP SCOTT HALL 😔
Rip scott hall aka razor ramon
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Yes Scott did wear his Razor gear under his Outsiders gear on Nitro in a ladder match against Bam Bam, and he did actually mention 'The Huckster' in his opening promo.
I remember this too. The purple elbow pad.
He should've never thought of the nWo as anything more than just a faction.
In regards to the Jericho win over Scott Hall, I believe Scott has said that the original idea was for him to go over on Jericho but Scott decided to go into business for himself and let Jericho win in an attempt to get a better match. Therefore it wouldn't have been a concentrated attempt to have another 123 Kid moment. Maybe Scott has this in mind though 🤔
Yes. Scott told Jericho that if he gets yelled at, to blame him (Scott).
Very good explanation of legal tactics, Mr. EB. An attorney speaking. Best.
Extremely dissapointed Conrad is not co-hosting this episode (which we've all been waiting and requesting for such a long time) especially now Scott Hall has passed away. This story deserves the main cast and a proper follow up to part 1. The show doesn't work without Conrad. Not good.
Definitely should have saved this one for Conrad for sure.
One of my favorite moments was Hollywood coming out to even the odds at world War 3 97. Hollywood n hall were a heel of a duo.
God bless your soul, Scott Hall.
Thank you for this
Can’t wait for part 3
I love how bischoff can really go in on meltzer in this. I agree with every single word he said. No respect or shits given to meltzer
It is a gimmick, silly. Dave is ATM Eric’s foil so it makes it entertaining but he over does it and it gets cliche and uninteresting. Eric was on Observer Radio around the time he botched the purchase of WcW
@@postreading6889 I mean it’s a podcast. Not a show. I don’t see what makes you think it’s a gimmick. All I pick up is that it’s legitimately uninteresting, to have every single episode being a read of meltzers account and then asking Eric “so what do u think?”. Go ride meltzer somewhere else, silly
Jim Cornette contributed a ton. Wouldn't know where to start. There's a laundry list.
Helping to break in Orton, Cena, Lesnar and Batista for starters.
@@chico1680 yea probably the 2nd greatest manager ever. Definitely influenced people like Heyman. Certainly had a lot to do with Kane, Montreal etc. There's so much residual influence from Cornette, it's ridiculous.
And he'll never get over that McMahon chose Russo over him. Cries about it to this day and still wont face Russo in a debate.
I don't think it was ever about Russo being chosen "over" him. They worked together and then worked together again in TNA. I wouldn't debate Russo either. Russo is almost universally disliked and jim is almost universally appreciated among their peers. That tells the story for me.
Jim (In OVW) trained/booked/taught Randy Orton, Broke Lesnar and Dave Bastista.....that's what Jim has contributed until this day.....come on Eric....I love you....come on now ha
This is an instance where it would’ve been good for Conrad to be on this show. Because we know he’d have pushed back hard on this.
And? Business went down the toilet after Austin and Rock left. Those ovw guys were all garbage compared to them. But whatever floats your boat.
@@Rschr101 business went down when those 2 left? Lmao. What version of "facts/evidence" are you using? Haha. Ratings started to already continuously go down just moths after the "invasion" and by the time those 2 left, the rating were already down below by more than 2 points. However, WWE was more profitable than ever after those 2 left.......ssssooooo.....
2:14:37 Bischoff knows it's true but doesn't want to bury Hall. Cudos to u sir for sticking up for your old employee/friend.
The way Tony treats CM Punk is the exact way Eric treats Hogan. Eric really needs to back off Tony
The difference is that Hogan was the demonstrated biggest draw in the history of wrestling at this point. He was a key part to genuinely bringing WCW above WWF at this time. Tony on the other hand has given punk they treatment but punk hasn’t been the business changer for aew to justify the trearment.
People forget how much bumping Hall & Nash did in WCW. Like way more than they probably should have
Love Eric's podcast. Currently, the best wrestling podcast (IMO)
Yup, I rotate 83 Weeks, Corny, Something to Wrestle, Angle Pod, Arn, and Jarrett.
Hey yo....
Loved this episode. It’s nice when you have a co host for Eric who doesn’t act like all the bullshit Dave Meltzer printed is true. Conrad takes so many little shots and has to be a sarcastic smart ass constantly, it gets annoying to listen to. Dave printed lies, gossip, and opinions as facts for years. He constantly attacked both main companies because the people running those companies treated him like the parasite he is. Eric pointed this out perfectly…Look at all the drama in AEW now, it’s so clear that as Dave used to say “ the inmates are running the asylum.” Weirdly enough though, Dave just sweeps it aside, puts over Tony, and puts over his butt buddies Jericho and the elite. It’s so clear that Jericho, omega, and the little buckaroos just tell him what to say…and then Dave says it. He’s an AEW cheerleader because they invite him to events and treat him like he matters, so he gets down on his knees and opens wide lol. Every match is five stars, Tony is the best booker ever, cm punk is the problem in the locker room, and the elite dbags are some of the best wrestlers ever 😂. Everything Eric has said about Dave for years is true, hopefully Conrad stops quoting him like he’s a real journalist so the shows can be better.
I really like Conrad but you definitely have a point.. Although anytime Conrad loses his shit and starts shouting at Eric is too good
OVW (Cena, Orton, Lesnar, Batista) Hell in a Cell, Kane’s character
I actually like this Casio Kid a lot better than Conrad
I am enjoying this Eric Bishoff show....
Where’s part one? And the episode with Hall as a guest? Can’t find em
I still have my WCW dvds that’s talks about NWO….
The drama around the Hogan creative control thing is always overblown. Mostly because top stars like Hogan realistically don’t even need it. The idea that the top stars haven’t always had major sway in their stories is silly.
Bischoff is full of shit about Hogan only using creative control once. Hall admits Hogan used it to split up Hall and Nash with NWO black and white and the Wolf Pac. Why the hell would Hall want to go against Nash? Doesn’t work for me, brother.
More people should do larry z impression "when pocahantas and confucsus meet at pearly gates nwo and caeser were betrayed "
NWO FOR LIFE 👌😎👌🍁♈
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Eric finally admits there was a "favored nations" clause
He’s acknowledged it previously. A specific instance that comes to mind is that he has said that he went to Nash and Hall prior to signing Bret Hart to get them to waive their favored nations clause. On that episode he mentions that the clause had some nuance to it to where it was only applicable to certain levels of wrestlers and not applicable to all wrestlers signed as Hall and Nash have always claimed. And I would buy that claim over what Nash and Hall have always said. An easy example of why the clause wasn’t as broad as Nash and Hall have portrayed it is just to look at the payroll data that was made public in a court case against WCW. They provided all the pay for wrestlers between 1996 - 2000 and their contracts as part of that case.
When you compare their pay to the roster if their clause was what they have claimed it was they’d have made as much as Hogan, Hart and Goldberg. But they didn’t make that much. They did make more than guys like Sting and DDP though, so I think there’s credence to the claim that they did have some form of it as applied to certain people.
Rest in Peace Razor Ramon. NWO fan for life.
BWO for life. ECW
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What is BWO??????????
casio kid does a good job hosting the show, well done
The former C squad WcW announcer with the C squad podcast host. Connie is better versed in doing these high profile shows. Let this other dude improve and practice but not in this context as ATM Eric would say
Thank God Casio didn't wear YELLOW or ORANGE! Now he only looks like Jaundice instead of a Bright Version of an Albino with Jaundice. Love ya Casio!...tell Eric to eat something.
i loved wcw and wwe. but man the NWO was mint... Steiner Hogan Nash Hall Sting Buff the Stuff besides 89 to 94 WWF ERA WCW might have been the best! Woooo
Casio Kid?
Eric Bishoff comments about Jim Cornette was funny....
And accurate.
Sorry, not trying to disrespect the new guy, but Conrad is as much a reason I watch these podcasts as Eric/Bruce/Whomever and it's really disappointing to see him MIA for this topic. I'm too used to the chemistry he has with his co-hosts. If he's busy or backed up, I don't mind waiting.
It's just 2 sweet.....as candy
Has Bischoff ever considered that Dave isn't making shit up so much as Terry Taylor was feeding him bullshit info
Razor brought the drugs with him to wcw just like tony Montana
Why weren't they allowed to use the term 'jiu jitsu' on commentary? I don't get it
Hey Yo...
Sorry couldn't help myself.
Hey yo🤘
Eric on Adderall, you don’t say? 😁
Would explain why he seems so stiff and serious all the time…… just coffee? Ya right, kiddie coke it is!
@@postreading6889 He is also known to enjoy some Kratom tea, which also can make you spun and talkative 👀
Eric 100% on the money about bitter old Cornette. Love it.
why fans care this much to watch liars do what they do best about a fake sport boggles my mind
Whatever makes you feel better bro.
Saying goodbye to the bad guy 😢😥
HEY yo.....