Sorry .... don't want to be controversial but the only thing this video does is to demonstrate just how little he understands the technology he's talking about. The point of mild hybrid tech. Is to give a little extra torque when pulling from low revs before the turbo has spooled up. The stop/ start system actually only contrbutes slightly to fuel economy but helps performance noticeably. If you don't believe me, try an early Puma without it back to back with one with it. The 155 version, with its 3 cylinder 1 litre engine, is faster to 60mph than VW T- Roc with a 1500cc turbo engine and has slightly better fuel economy. ( There are plenty of unbiased reviews by people who know what they are talking about ) Some of the comments here relating to fuel economy - " 33mpg" for example, suggest that the driver is thrashing it all the time. I have a 2023 ST Line X 155 automatic. I live in Spain and on a recent 800 mile round trip to Granada - mostly motorway standard roads but through the Sierra Nevada mountains - sticking mostly to speed limits - it returned a genuine 49 mpg and over the last 3000 miles has averaged 45.6 mpg. No one buying a mHEV - and the Puma isn't the only one on the market - expects to be able to drive on electricity alone ..... that is not the point of them. To call it a scam is pure nonsense.
The point of mild hybrid is to store the kinetic enery temporarily in a capacitor so that you don't lose the energy while braking (turning it into heat.)
Unfortunately he has no idea what a mild hybrid car is. I’m surprised Ford haven’t served him with a writ for calling it a scam! Maybe he should try driving one and experience the extra torque when the electric motor kicks in.
You would be surprised, however, I drove one. For shy over 7k miles. I think is enough to have a personal opinion. Does it kick in? Yeah, a bit. Should it be called hybrid? Not so sure. Since I drive a standard PHEV I think I would have a fair enough of an opinion. Just as you have a fair opinion, a personal and fair honest point of you. Thanks for watching the video, a feedback is always a good feedback
I think you are genuinely confused by what mild hybrid is.. and that start stop is another function that uses some of the same components…air conditioning is normally run off the auxiliary belt on the engine so when the engine stops it stops this is normal and is purely intended to reduce emissions from cars stuck in traffic…the mild hybrid adds assistance to the petrol engine so it can burn less fuel …my grandland gives me approx 10 miles per gallon more than the non mild hybrid with the same engine it additionally adds about 20 horsepower when accelerating …. It is basically a development of the kers system you used to get in F1 cars..
You could see this as a fair point I guess. However, isn't it at least worth noting that we get a below average MPG, not really that much power (trust me, I have driven the car), and is still called a (mild) hybrid? The point here is that having "hybrid" in there , for me at least, looks like a marketing gimmick.
You are confusing two different things. The auto start/stop is a mechanism that is forced by the EURO 6 emissions standard. It aims to reduce emissions during traffic jams. If it is not implemented correctly by the car maker, it may cause damage in the long run to the engine. The mild hybrid does offer some extra torque during acceleration and stores back energy during deceleration. But been mild means that it can’t drive the car in EV mode alone like Toyota Hybrids do.
I had a Mk1 Focus 1.6 petrol that would get me 42mpg, my current Mk3 Focus 1.6 Econetic diesel will get me 60mpg. That said those engines are 100 and 105hp. I don't really see how these engines are any better on the efficiency front, nor do they seem to have scaled down well from the motorsports environment where small gains make a much bigger difference.
In general, when one hears "Hybrid" would think maybe has a better consumption as well.. WHy would you put more tech on a car if it does not help much anyway? Just for the name of it ? So yeah, agree with you. it's a bit confusing.
Mild hybrids area huge marketing scam. As you said correctly it's some sort of modernized start/stop system. I'm sure automakers just jumped on the EV hype train by taking advantage of legislation gaps to fool consumers. Hybrids and Plugin Hybrids are great technologies and they will most probably dominate the market until the complete EV transition (decades down the line in my opinion), but man, so many people are getting fooled by getting a mild-hybrid thinking they will even be able to run at least a km electrically where in reality they just got a better starter.
Well maybe, like you, they need to understand what a mild hybrid is before buying one. My Puma MhEV is a great little motor. Fast, economical and fun to drive.
@@SEPAChannel i am looking to buy the facelift Puma or Clio full hybrid, main difference here is clio have two electric motors and petrol 1.6l (total system power 145bhp), one is a electric drive motor, one is multi use (starter , synchronizer for gears and a generator) So in Clio you can drive full electric in town at low speed up to 80%* , But it have big battery , the battery is a 230V system and have 3 engines in total. Ecoboost mild hybrid have only little 18hp starter/generator electric motor that have third funcion - boost in low torque . Battery is smaller and low voltage 48v. So even it is far less than clio it can be called hybrid because without it you would have a bigger torque lag , start stop would work like in cars with normal starter, Mpg higher. You regenerate power braking and slowing down to use it for a boost . You want more buy full hybrid.
Sorry .... don't want to be controversial but the only thing this video does is to demonstrate just how little he understands the technology he's talking about.
The point of mild hybrid tech. Is to give a little extra torque when pulling from low revs before the turbo has spooled up. The stop/ start system actually only contrbutes slightly to fuel economy but helps performance noticeably. If you don't believe me, try an early Puma without it back to back with one with it. The 155 version, with its 3 cylinder 1 litre engine, is faster to 60mph than VW T- Roc with a 1500cc turbo engine and has slightly better fuel economy. ( There are plenty of unbiased reviews by people who know what they are talking about )
Some of the comments here relating to fuel economy - " 33mpg" for example, suggest that the driver is thrashing it all the time. I have a 2023 ST Line X 155 automatic. I live in Spain and on a recent 800 mile round trip to Granada - mostly motorway standard roads but through the Sierra Nevada mountains - sticking mostly to speed limits - it returned a genuine 49 mpg and over the last 3000 miles has averaged 45.6 mpg.
No one buying a mHEV - and the Puma isn't the only one on the market - expects to be able to drive on electricity alone ..... that is not the point of them.
To call it a scam is pure nonsense.
The point of mild hybrid is to store the kinetic enery temporarily in a capacitor so that you don't lose the energy while braking (turning it into heat.)
Mild hybrid has a 2nd lithium battery not a capacitor.
Unfortunately he has no idea what a mild hybrid car is. I’m surprised Ford haven’t served him with a writ for calling it a scam!
Maybe he should try driving one and experience the extra torque when the electric motor kicks in.
You would be surprised, however, I drove one. For shy over 7k miles. I think is enough to have a personal opinion. Does it kick in? Yeah, a bit. Should it be called hybrid? Not so sure. Since I drive a standard PHEV I think I would have a fair enough of an opinion. Just as you have a fair opinion, a personal and fair honest point of you. Thanks for watching the video, a feedback is always a good feedback
I think you are genuinely confused by what mild hybrid is.. and that start stop is another function that uses some of the same components…air conditioning is normally run off the auxiliary belt on the engine so when the engine stops it stops this is normal and is purely intended to reduce emissions from cars stuck in traffic…the mild hybrid adds assistance to the petrol engine so it can burn less fuel …my grandland gives me approx 10 miles per gallon more than the non mild hybrid with the same engine it additionally adds about 20 horsepower when accelerating …. It is basically a development of the kers system you used to get in F1 cars..
You could see this as a fair point I guess. However, isn't it at least worth noting that we get a below average MPG, not really that much power (trust me, I have driven the car), and is still called a (mild) hybrid? The point here is that having "hybrid" in there , for me at least, looks like a marketing gimmick.
You are confusing two different things. The auto start/stop is a mechanism that is forced by the EURO 6 emissions standard. It aims to reduce emissions during traffic jams. If it is not implemented correctly by the car maker, it may cause damage in the long run to the engine.
The mild hybrid does offer some extra torque during acceleration and stores back energy during deceleration. But been mild means that it can’t drive the car in EV mode alone like Toyota Hybrids do.
I had a Mk1 Focus 1.6 petrol that would get me 42mpg, my current Mk3 Focus 1.6 Econetic diesel will get me 60mpg. That said those engines are 100 and 105hp.
I don't really see how these engines are any better on the efficiency front, nor do they seem to have scaled down well from the motorsports environment where small gains make a much bigger difference.
In general, when one hears "Hybrid" would think maybe has a better consumption as well.. WHy would you put more tech on a car if it does not help much anyway? Just for the name of it ? So yeah, agree with you. it's a bit confusing.
Ive just bought a 2020 plate manual 155hp st line first edition plus.
Getting 38mpg max
Mild hybrids area huge marketing scam. As you said correctly it's some sort of modernized start/stop system. I'm sure automakers just jumped on the EV hype train by taking advantage of legislation gaps to fool consumers. Hybrids and Plugin Hybrids are great technologies and they will most probably dominate the market until the complete EV transition (decades down the line in my opinion), but man, so many people are getting fooled by getting a mild-hybrid thinking they will even be able to run at least a km electrically where in reality they just got a better starter.
Well maybe, like you, they need to understand what a mild hybrid is before buying one. My Puma MhEV is a great little motor. Fast, economical and fun to drive.
U don’t know what you’re talking about bro
Enlighten me, please 🙏
@@SEPAChannel i am looking to buy the facelift Puma or Clio full hybrid, main difference here is clio have two electric motors and petrol 1.6l (total system power 145bhp), one is a electric drive motor, one is multi use (starter , synchronizer for gears and a generator) So in Clio you can drive full electric in town at low speed up to 80%* , But it have big battery , the battery is a 230V system and have 3 engines in total. Ecoboost mild hybrid have only little 18hp starter/generator electric motor that have third funcion - boost in low torque . Battery is smaller and low voltage 48v. So even it is far less than clio it can be called hybrid because without it you would have a bigger torque lag , start stop would work like in cars with normal starter, Mpg higher. You regenerate power braking and slowing down to use it for a boost . You want more buy full hybrid.
They are not a scam a normal hybrid u need to charge but this mild just drive
the one you need to charge its called a plug-in hybrid.
I’m dumb, love me!
no problem 😶🌫️