Fusion 360 CAM Tutorial - How to - Part in a Vise
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- Опубліковано 23 лис 2024
- Super excited about this requested Fusion 360 CAM Tutorial where we are going to do the Step-by-Step and get a part in a vise.
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Recently subscribed to your channel because I am learning Fusion 360 for CAM. Your videos are the most beneficial way to learn how to use and unlock all the power inside of Fusion 360.
My favorite part of this lesson! 16:53 In all seriousness, I'm learning CAM and these lessons have been quite helpful, much love Lars.
Thank you Joe Clark
Lars, Understand your need for time with the family but you did the best video's. You just had a knack for it.
Lars, Thank you for producing helpful videos!
After working through producing many multi-setup parts now in fusion, I am beginning to have some confusion about the best workflow. When creating a project that has more than one part, you have to choose one of two strategies:
-Build your entire design in one file
-Build each part in its own file, then assemble linked instances into assembly file. (Solidworks-Style)
There are advantages and pitfalls to both methods. I started out with the first strategy, but eventually ended up adopting the second strategy above due to the fact that my files were unmanageable when several CAM setups were involved for each part.
I have recently been using a standard file convention for each part that contains three base components/folders (Work-holding, Stock, Part). Since I am on a 3-axis machine, the majority of my parts contain 3-6 setups to complete, so the CAM view becomes manageable in a real world scenario.
In the stock folder, I have rough models that are used for the stock in each setup if needed, that have been copied from the part itself and simplified to represent current state. (Rest machining between setups is at the top of my request list for fusion, hopefully this will be added soon )
forums.autodesk.com/t5/computer-aided-machining-cam/stock-from-previous-operation-for-next-setup-stock/m-p/6763954#M22111
Until Rest machining between setups is possible, and the CAM view provides some kind of state management, It seems like there are too many assets that exist for one file. However, there are so many benefits to having everything in one file, I really want to work this way
For now, I have found that modeling your stock for each setup, and consistently placing it into a "Stock" component in the root of the modeling tree, helps to reduce some of the errors shown in this video. You have complete control over your stock overlay by using Joints and dimensions. Then selecting Stock from model in your Setup config.
I would love to see a video about how YOU approach this issue in the current state of the Application. There areas many way to layout projects, I feels there is a gap there in cyberspace.
Thanks again Lars, you are doing an excellent job.
Ryan
Hi Ryan, Thank you so much for watching and also for writing this. I don't think I would do it much different than you. Seems like we are working about the same way. There are this funny broken link between CAD best practices and then what works when you actual have to make a part on the shopfloor :-)
Best,
Lars
Thanks again Lars for the great tutorial. I had an idea for new tutorials for you. One thing that causes users to implement software ineffectively is not knowing functions and features available and understanding how they work. Many videos I've watched poke here and there at the commonly used features but none that I've found are thorough in going through all the menu items and giving examples of their purpose. For instance, start with the Sketch menu and one by one go down the list providing explanation and examples. Doesn't need to be super in depth but just an awareness of their availability. Just a thought. I know I would find them invaluable. You have a unique ability to explain complex processes in a relate-able manner.
Keep up the good work!
I don't hate that idea. I will put it on my list for sure. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!
Have a great day!
It was really hard to figure out if I needed to do this by searching on the internet. Lars was great for pointing out that this is optional. This is one less thing that I need to know initially so thank you Lars.
Best intro to Fusion videos on the Net! Thanks for all your time and efforts.
Thank you so much Nick! :-)
Have an awesome day!!
Thanks Lars for listening and doing this .
I am a machinist learning to do cad and cam work and your tutorial are master class's them self, helped out greatly in making my own parts
Awesome to hear. Thank you for watching 👍😊
Lars, really enjoy your videos. I am a Fusion 360 noobie and use it for creating models for 3D printing. I would really enjoy seeing you create a video related to creating a drawing from a completed design. Thanks for all your hard work in creating your videos.
Rick
Thank you for taking the time to watch the video! Yes, drawings is on my list for sure :-) Could be fun to take an assembly where we create a bill of material and also individual drawings with detail views. I get that pushed up the list
Great, thanks. Looking forward to it.
Rick
First. Thank you for the videos. SUPER HELPFUL! How would I get a table and vice for a Fadal VMC 4020?
I love how much information is about this useful software, but specially how well you are doing this budy. One think to be proud is to share your savy with all the people who actually want to learn. Our times demand a greater effort to be update in such a demanding but regarding industry. Thank you so much for your time and knowledge.
That is awesome to hear Daniel Castro .Thank you for watching the videos
Hope you have an awesome day!!
Awesome! I like the idea of making master files for workholding and copying them to bring it TO the part to be machined. I always learn something neat from your videos. Thanks Lars! - Jacob S.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, Jacob! Glad you found it helpful.
Have a great day!
One of the greatest channels...
Extremely helpful..
Lars Christensen Sir u r doing a great job....❤
Thank you so much. Happy to hear you find it useful 👍😊
@@cadcamstuff Sir thank u so much for this reply..
M really a fan of u...❤❤❤❤❤❤
Oh my god.. Why didn't I see this channel before!
I had to climb a mountain to learn this.
This is what I was looking for.
Thanks
Really good information and tutorial Lars - many thanks !!!
Thank you, Barry. Glad you like the video!
Thank Lars, I've followed along and now I can make my next part in a fixture in a vise. You make it so easy!
That is awesome to hear Dan Bloomquist .Thank you for watching the videos
Great Video. I have been doing a lot of messing with the stock setting. This has helped explain the "fixture" setting. As always, Thanks, I pick up things from all your presentations.
Great to hear!! You have an awesome day!!
Best,
Lars
Great vid!! I've missed a couple, but this was right inline with something I'm working on.....so it became a "must watch" lol Thanks!!
Thank you for taking the time to watch :-)
Have a great day!
Well Lars, since you said you read them all; I couldn't resist posting a message. Thanks for all your fun videos. that's it. LOL
You are so very welcome :-) Thank you for watching
Again a great video - as I commented in an other thread, I would really love to see how you then handle the part in termes of file structure and setup when you need to flip the part and finish it, ie how you keep one file for all your operations if possible.
I agree. I'd also like to see what would be the best way to have a single file with multiple machining setups. I think maybe importing multiple Master Vice files and orienting them differently for each setup would be a way to do it.
Just getting started with Fusion 360. Your channel is such an incredible resource! Thank you!
Thank you for watching 👍😊
I always learn a lot from your videos.
There is an other topic, where i have some knowledge gap. The branch and merge functions of Fusion 360.
Can you make a video, how to use them in a useful way?
Thanks
Thank you for watching! Yes, I think Branch and Merge is going to be my next one. I need to dive down and understand that myself :-)
Have an awesome day!
Thank you. I just know some basics from the GIT / Github. I think it can be a very powerful tool.But the best tool is only as helpful as good we understand how to use it.
In this way, your videos increased the value of Fusion 360 for me a lot.
Thank you for the video! I like it. Another good Fusion tutorial!!
Greetings from Germany.
Thank you so much Alexander!
Have a great day!!
Always the best tutorial videos
Thank you 👍😊
Very well done. I will be accessing more of these down the road.
Thank you Kevin Hughes
Thanks for all your uploads, they are great and easy to understand!
But is it possible to make a video on how to copy a part shape in to a set of softjaws to hold on to a nonlinear shaped part?
Greetings from Norway :)
Hi Steven, Thank you for taking the time to watch the videos. Have you seen this video?
ua-cam.com/video/6mdp5n40YWE/v-deo.html
Let me know if that answers your question.
Lars, as a lot of viewers have already commented great video as always! Just curious as to how once the part is machined from the stock block how the cap gets separated from the stock?
Thanks, Peter
Hi Peter, Thank you for taking the time to watch the video. For this part here, I would flip the part over and use a facing operation to remove the remaining stock. I created a video about second operations and how to hold on to complex shapes if that has any interest :-) ua-cam.com/video/6mdp5n40YWE/v-deo.html
Very nice, I’ve wanted to learn how to do this for some time.
That is awesome to hear Anton K .Thank you for watching the videos
Lars, a great video once again. Question about breaking the link to the original. I would have thought that one would not want to break the link, so that changes would show though if the vise model got updated.
Thanks
That is a good point. The problem is that if you don't break the link, you can't copy the vise assembly out of the master project. The only way to keep the link is to download the entire project as an archive file to your desktop and then upload it back up to Fusion. It might seem like it is broken, but the issue with linked components when they get moved outside a project, is that it is hard to keep track of referenced files. That is why it works this way.
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
Aha, got it. Thanks so much.
Awesome video once again Lars. One quick question... I like the obstacle detection feature, but in my path generation experience the tools go right through the fixture, though they do highlight red. Is there a way to make Fusion alter the tool paths to avoid the fixtures altogether? Ciao, Marco.
Not directly at the moment. There are a tab function for some of the toolpaths that will avoid an area as if you clamping that possible could be used, but not a perfect solution. For now you have to be awake and watch for the red holder warning :-)
Another Great video Thank you!
I just got my CNC router working this weekend and I was wondering do you have any simple gcode files that you could share
so I could test my Machine ? Thanks again , love your videos.
I would recommend that you go to the CAM sample folder and pull one of the models there. Then you can pick what controller you have for your machine and start testing code. The most important thing when it comes to code for your machine, is what controller. Your manual also might have some sample code you can use as reference.
Have an awesome day!
Thanks Lars, I will give it a try.
Great video! Changing from other cad programs to Fusion 360. I love it. I checked and my data panel does not have any extra items in it. It just has items I have done. It was empty when I started using it. Where do I get items that the team made like you mentioned in your video? Thanks.
Really? You don't have the CAM sample folder at the bottom of your data panel. I thought everyone had that. I will have to reach out to someone who is smarter than me how that can be. BRB
Looks like my mistake. At the top of the data panel it just has my name and below is the items I have done. To the left of my name at the top is an arrow pointing left. I clicked that and it brought up another panel which had all the samples. I had never clicked that arrow. Thanks for your help.
Great videos. Thanks for doing this.
Thank you so much Matt Walston !
Hey, great video. However it is missing the main point to actually put your part in a vice. Many of us are dealing with small mills and parts that may be too large to put on the table with out doing multiple setups to deal with that.
So, how can you set the g53 origin (Machine Origin) of a part on a table and each setup having its own own origin (54 (in cam 0 or 1),55(2)… etc)? The benefit of having this feature would be to figure out where on the vice to place a part that is on the cusp or just is too big to fit within the tool envelope.
Can you coach on this Lars? Or maybe you have put up another video that adresses this, but I haven’t seen it…. Or maybe it is not done yet!
Missing the main point? No, he quite well covered the point of this video. You have a very DIFERENT point you want covered; Using multiple work offsets to get work bigger done in your tiny mill. The answer to that is simple. Move the part around on the table and only machine what you can at each position. Two ways: #1 You could have several entirely different manufacturing assemblies, one for each part location. or #2 you could assemble the workpiece in several locations within the same manufacturing assembly. If you do this, each assembled workpiece gets it's own setup. The setups have the coord system, and the work offset # 54,55,56, etc...
You can have your post process multiple setups and use M1 optional stop between, but I think I would prefer separate files.
Amazing video. Thanks!
Lars...I think I follow. It would be great to see a FLOW CHART of the folder structure as well as a WORK FLOW CHART at the end of the video. For me, what was presented had to be rewatched several times. This is not a criticism of you or your instructional capabilities...trust me I know its ME. This is a complex topic and you have to veer a bit to paint a broader picture for everyone. As you go further in depth explaining the breaking of links and using copies of files that's where it gets confusing.... File management (for me has always been a nightmare, my mind simply doesn't work well that way).
Maybe this is a separate video and you may have already done something like this for those of us who are more visual learners.
Hi Lars,
Great video! Very informative regarding vises in Fusion.
I have made some vise soft jaws out from aluminum blocks to hold my stock correctly in the vise while milling.
The toolpath is set up to mill a little bit into these two soft jaws while milling the part.
Is there anyway I can see what will be milled of material from the soft jaws during simulation?
The tool goes into the jaw during simulation, but the jaw remains the same, only the stock is beeing milled.
I did set the soft jaws as Fixture so I can see when the tool goes into it. (red on the bar)
Thanks in advanced,
Best Regards,
Kjetil
Hi Kjetil Møkkelgård Thank you for taking the time to watch the videos!.
Try to turn on transparency in the simultation.
I would love to see fusion do something like EdgeCAM and have the entire machine with all vice’s, Fixtures, max travel on each axis with your exact machine. That’s a feature I’d love to see fusion adopt at some point. I (unfortunately) use EdgeCAM at work and it is so unintuitive and completely non user friendly in more than half its ability, but it is very powerful and has a lot of really nice features.
Hi kbutta01 Thank you for watching!
I know that the development team is working on machine configurations that will do exactly what you want. They also want to make sure they do it right, so it will probably have to go through some testing
Lars Christensen This is great news!! I am actually trying to put together a “presentation” of sorts to pitch them switching to Fusion from EdgeCAM since they aren’t happy with EdgeCAM. It’s far to difficult to use and it isn’t easy to get help with either. I wish there was a pitch i could use to give them. I’m not the best salesman...
I have also heard on he forums they are working on full machine simulation as well which in that case there would be little to no reason not to switch.
Thank you so much for your videos! Can you tell me please if it is possible to machine a part in the same program if the part requests to be fixed in two different positions in the vise during the machining? Two different fixations mean of course two different offsets. Thank you
Course...you can it ..using hide part....parts..assy...in 300000 positions😅
nice work. I will study this
My brain just exploded lol.I need one of those Canadian beers you drink.
Such a great video!
I'm a newbie to this stuff, so perhaps this question sounds silly to pros. Why do you not just make one stock edge on the same plane as the fixed vise jaw and make the other (movable) vise jaw on the same plane as the opposite stock edge? That way the movable vise jaw will automatically follow a new stock dimension and you don't have to make those calculations to place the stock in the right position. The same reasoning could be applied to the bottom of the stock resting on top of the parallels.
Not a stupid question at all :-). You could do something like that. So you would create a solid body as stock in the assembly and use that as stock.
@@cadcamstuff Would be way easier if stock defined in the cam setup could be used the same way as a component, i.e. faces useable for measurement and joint creation
Lars, is this process best done before laying toolpaths down? I programmed a part and then put it in a vise, I found I needed to re-assign some heights on tools. In this situation is it easier to just move the vise to the part and not re-position the part?
First, I want to say that I will not always put my part in a vise. I do normally put the part in the vise first before programming for the reason you describe. There are always some a-ha moment :-). Again, there are no rules.
Best,
Lars
Hi Lars,
is there away to use the stock model to place the part in the fixture, or do you have to figure out the offsets from the stock box to the model origin?
Hi Ron, If it is just a rectangular stock I think it is fine. I just wanted to use an example that was not perfect, because I knew someone would come across this problem.
Thank you for taking the time to watch the video!!!
Best,
Lars
Very helpful!
Excellent video!
Thank you Eric Neel
Great video
I downloaded a 5 in. machinist vise file from Tormachs web site and now I can not adjust the vise opening from within Fusion 360 in cad or cam, do you guy's have a trick for that?
Does this work the same if you are importing a part that already has stock and tool paths?
Lars, what do you do about the collisions once you detect them?
Hi Levi Garrison Thank you for watching!
If you place your mouse over the area on the green bar it should tell you what is wrong. Like your tool holder is hitting the stock or maybe a lead in issue. So now you can go back in your operation and make corrections and re-check the simulation. You should not post the code until you are red collision free
Thanks for the help
You are so very welcome :-) Thank you for watching!
You must play the guitar like do. Do you play the guitar?
Hi Lars! When I insert a part with setups and toolpaths into some other design these setups and toolpaths will not be transferred with it.
Hi kvid Thank you for watching!
Yes, you are correct. Toolpaths does not come along when you insert a part into another. What are you trying to do?
When I do what you did on 15:50 the setups and toolpaths don't transfer along with the part. I found a way around it by inserting the workholding file into the part file instead of the part file into the workholding file.
Great until you moved the jaws. Would you explain how to move the jaws?
Simply..in mates..you create one assy....relations....
Fusion needs a "vise import" add in like Feature CAM. all this is done auto magic. 😉
thanks , great man
How do you flip the part in the jaws to machine the second side.
Hello, This series should answer that question:
ua-cam.com/video/6FzbZNhey2w/v-deo.html
I hope :-)
Have an awesome day!
great, thanks
Is there a tutorial on how you created that part?
I have not. But you might find this playlist useful for modeling something similar ua-cam.com/play/PL40d7srwyc_NopbOnJ4IARIvSrTT1pp5m.html
Oh, yes, I've already watched the entire series. It's great.
Great !
Thank you GwerderAkkordeon
Lars unable to reposition moving jaw. Wont slide.
Try to delete all the joints for that jaw (now it should move freely) and try to create your joint again....does that work? If not...is it by mistake in a rigid group?
Thanks Lars. Edited the joint, changed to slider. Completing video one step at a time.
My problem is the that the tool is not showing cutting of any stock that was added but rather cutting the dimensions of the part. So how do you setup to cut the extra stock at first so that it can start cutting the part?
Can u import an Mazak Integrex model into Auto desk to see spindle and tool holder collisions
Very helpful but way to complicated Fusion 360 handles this topic. Should be easier without copying the vice each time to the model.
I am unable to download the CNC handbook.
Sorry. The site was hacked....You should be able to get it now cadcamstuff.com/download-free-stuff/
Where we find cam file?
Another great video!!! Thank you!!! I'm looking to create a model of my tool holder, which is an MT1-ER16 collet chuck (similar to this one: www.banggood.com/MT1-Shank-ER16-Collet-Chuck-Holder-Morse-Taper-Collet-Chuck-Holder-M6-Thread-CNC-Cutter-Arbor-p-1046819.html). How would I be able to do so?
Right now Fusion 360 doesn't have all the tool holder flexibility I would like to see, but I know the team is working hard on it. You might get away with using the shaft option doing tool creation, or...maybe there is one of the stock toolholders that comes with Fusion 360 that are close enough. If you are looking to use it for tool collision it is fine as long as you are using a holder that are a little bigger :-)
Have an awesome day!
Does anyone know where he got the vise model from?
Anywhere...on the internet...official websites for clamping systems...
Great!