NEW Genestealer Cults vs Adeptus Custodes Warhammer 40k Battle Report - First Impressions

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  • @etcollignon
    @etcollignon 2 роки тому +71

    Guys, you can't play neophytes in a group of 5. The points section has a typo. If you look at their datasheet, it's 10-20....which make more sense than 5-15 since the special weapons rule states 2 mining weapon per 10 models....

    • @Monstein
      @Monstein 2 роки тому +16

      Was seeing if anyone had pointed that out yet. As soon as he said he had it in the army list I started looking.

    • @alexisperrin9739
      @alexisperrin9739 2 роки тому +3

      Yes indeed. 10-20 neophytes by squad

    • @vashoom
      @vashoom 2 роки тому

      Who's to say the datasheet isn't the typo? Until they say one way or the other, who knows? It could still make sense they don't want special weapons in a sub-10 unit. I agree it's probably 10-20, but I also thought the Space Marine Chapter Command typo giving characters cheaper upgrades was wrong, but that turned out to be the correct points.

    • @alexisperrin9739
      @alexisperrin9739 2 роки тому +2

      @@vashoom The datasheet maybe is the typo but that's what you take as the official reference for squad size, not the points value.

    • @TheKodiak72
      @TheKodiak72 2 роки тому +8

      Dont you love how brand new release.. Top 10 companies in England.. And GW are still fucking useless and unable to proof read lol.

  • @CheatingZubat
    @CheatingZubat 2 роки тому +24

    Dude those Custodes are monsters. Two of them are just cutting swaths through those cultists. I don't play the tabletop but I like to watch the games. How cool! The Genestealer's have really nifty strategies too.

  • @dancinswords
    @dancinswords 2 роки тому +7

    Having not checked in on 40k for years, it's so great to see, and hard to believe, they gave Genestealer cults their own army. It was such a cool bit of lore that was hidden away and underutilized.
    That goes for the Custodes too, for that matter

  • @jjaarr3208
    @jjaarr3208 2 роки тому +58

    Custodes codex should just be called, "You can't do that." You can't reroll, you can't wound on 1-3, you can't....

  • @Willireallyam
    @Willireallyam 2 роки тому +33

    IMPORTANT NOTE, your blips are now reworded. Before you couldnt "End a move within 9" of them". Now it states you cant move across them either. Meaning a front line is all you need to stop anything getting past into your deployment. You dont need to zone out now

  • @jeffwren7815
    @jeffwren7815 2 роки тому +14

    Any other GSC players compulsively skip to the end of any GSC content just to see if it's worth it to watch or if they just get fucking tabled?

  • @frankmanha
    @frankmanha 2 роки тому +32

    Matt, for the love of War gaming get new dice and throw that set in a fire

    • @jorzolek01
      @jorzolek01 2 роки тому

      Because they’re difficult to read on camera or because of how they rolled?

    • @frankmanha
      @frankmanha 2 роки тому +11

      @@jorzolek01 because the last couple games they look like they roll an above average amount of 1s and 2s. Like a lot above average

    • @michaelcoetzee4344
      @michaelcoetzee4344 2 роки тому

      This man rolls the worst. Can almost count on him rolling the min amount especially for grenades and whe he does blow up he almost always hurts himself more than the opponent. In just about every video.

  • @tzeentchian
    @tzeentchian 2 роки тому +16

    Well Matt forgot crossfire on turn one straightaway, let’s see if he remembers it on later turns…

  • @Zzzzzzzyxwvu
    @Zzzzzzzyxwvu 2 роки тому +18

    I don’t know what the GSC “blip” deployment is called but it’s such a fantastic and unique ability for their army. Really fun to see in action! Great work folks, thank you!

    • @Azzie420
      @Azzie420 2 роки тому +2

      It’s mainly because the cult springs up from underground so you know where they’re coming from but you don’t know what’s in them big holes that’s going to jump out and eat you

    • @Zzzzzzzyxwvu
      @Zzzzzzzyxwvu 2 роки тому +1

      @@Azzie420 the auspex scanners pick up a blip in the far corner.. then more start filling the screen. “I can’t see anything ahead!”. The sewer covers start sliding and shadows begin to emerge.
      I love the imagery to see it on the table and the other half in my head of the fight!

    • @Azzie420
      @Azzie420 2 роки тому +1

      @@Zzzzzzzyxwvu it’s Basically like alien, “they’re in the wallssssss!”

  • @jonathankelly4222
    @jonathankelly4222 2 роки тому +45

    Custodes are definitely much more straight forward to play from what I can tell. “Hey, we have really shiny armor that doesn’t dent. Soooo cool. Look at how shiny we are.” GSC seem like the Skaven of 40K. Has the potential to be really good, but god only knows if it’ll actually go to plan.

    • @thereasonwhy2051
      @thereasonwhy2051 2 роки тому +14

      Its a plan generations in the making

    • @FrogEnjoyer17
      @FrogEnjoyer17 Рік тому

      Well every battle is supposedly a plan generations in the making so it makes sense

  • @ottoaureliuszwiebel
    @ottoaureliuszwiebel 2 роки тому +6

    Geenstealers trying to steal the emperors genes - Costodes trying to protect the genes

  • @DarkfireEquinox
    @DarkfireEquinox 2 роки тому +18

    Sad to see they got released together when one has a very clear advantage over the other, kinda reminds me of TSons and Grey Knights release, where every game they fight each out in the Grey Knights have a very clear advantage

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 2 роки тому +5

      Which one has the advantage?
      I feel like genecult seem better at scoring secondaries with smart play but custodes seem very strong in the primary with seizing objectives. Especially the ability to turn off obsec on enemy units and them counting as multiple models.

    • @DarkfireEquinox
      @DarkfireEquinox 2 роки тому +9

      @@Blight02 Custodes we’re shutting off a lot of the combat tricks for GSC. Not sure if it was the subclass specifically but it was pretty brutal

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 2 роки тому +5

      @@DarkfireEquinox yeah it was a combo of the army and the cult being a pretty big issue in this matchup. Genecult can't trade equally in melee with custodes and it's a bad plan to try. Crossfire and playing the missions superbly is their thing.

    • @Lykandras
      @Lykandras 2 роки тому +1

      @@Blight02 Just no. GSC can trade with custodes. GSC melee got insane, if you know how. The amount of 3D in GSC is insane. Give people time to read the dex and learn it.

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 2 роки тому +2

      @@Lykandras 3 damage is fine and good (Aberrants, relic claw on primus, rock cutters, and 6s to wound on patriarch), but it doesn't work that well when your opponent passes their 4++. The custodes can survive a genecult charge. The genecult cannot survive being charged by custodes. Plus you have their extremely tough characters and bikes that don't die to a single 3 damage strike getting through.
      I'm not saying it's impossible to kill off a custodes squad in melee before it strikes back but you shouldn't count on it.
      Crossfire synergy can help but they forgot about it in this game.

  • @sergeantindie8072
    @sergeantindie8072 2 роки тому +7

    Metamorphs fight on death. Built in to the datasheet. Minor error, but it could've mattered.

  • @bena7294
    @bena7294 2 роки тому +9

    Absolutely love how flavorful the GSCs are, Im always a sucker for fluffy abilities & rules

  • @Cry4Tanelorn
    @Cry4Tanelorn 2 роки тому +8

    I really like the improvements on production quality, like the animated typography and particles. Great battle report!

  • @oscarjessen6523
    @oscarjessen6523 2 роки тому +13

    Just to let people know this is not a pro Twisted helix player, rememberer to add your crossfire and abberants!

    • @zoxxzy
      @zoxxzy 2 роки тому +4

      He also forgot his trucks couldn't be wounded on 2s when the bikes charged.

  • @vidarthorsby2052
    @vidarthorsby2052 2 роки тому +7

    I cannot shout in written form, so let me just write "GSC, lets get ready to rumble!"
    Glad to see your, my and everyones belowed GSC get a new book. :-)

  • @AfroChef
    @AfroChef 2 роки тому +5

    Feels like this was a good first showing, can't wait to see what other list combinations you all come up with these factions

    • @Luciusthestorms
      @Luciusthestorms 2 роки тому +1

      I mean they did pick the best custodes brotherhood for fighting twisted helix.

  • @bellportbattlebunker4682
    @bellportbattlebunker4682 2 роки тому +3

    This is great being able to see a game between the two new codex armies. Thanks for sharing.

  • @kallemon
    @kallemon 2 роки тому +12

    It's funny that people think dmg 2 is better than D3. XD
    Everything and their grandmother has -1 damage.

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 2 роки тому +1

      Well everything's going to 2d so that -1 damage looks extra great.

    • @kallemon
      @kallemon 2 роки тому +1

      @@Blight02 Exactly! If -1 dmg wasn't EVERYWHERE, flat 2dmg would have been great! But now, there's 100% risk of only doing 1 dmg, instead of having a 33% chance of doing 2.

    • @TheSniperGTO
      @TheSniperGTO 2 роки тому +1

      @@kallemon I can’t count the number of times my greatest creations of the Emperor swung their mighty handmade relic weapons and did 1 damage. I’ll happily give 2 a try. Maybe they will give the Custodes a faq where their 2 damage weapons can’t be reduced or something.

    • @kallemon
      @kallemon 2 роки тому

      @@TheSniperGTO Well, get VERY used to them only dealing 1 dmg now.
      I can't count the number of times I needed to roll 5/6 in order to do the thing, and the roll was a 5/6.
      Get used to only dealing 1 wound. Get used to not even have the chance of 2/3 damage.

    • @gustavotriqui
      @gustavotriqui 2 роки тому

      @@TheSniperGTO my God, I hope not. Ir would be broken. This is not a random Space Marine Terminator hitting on 4s with a Thunder hammer. They hit on 2s rerolling 1s.

  • @Azzie420
    @Azzie420 2 роки тому +9

    Winters was talking about the crossfire thing, I hope to see it used well in action

  • @Silentmobius6669
    @Silentmobius6669 2 роки тому +24

    So with the new Custodes book we learned, they still dont die, they still decimate whatever they attack but, now they can also shut down everything you can do with their strats?

    • @albertovalcarenghi350
      @albertovalcarenghi350 2 роки тому +3

      @@Ankhtowe they are a costly, elite army. Wait for a match with an oppo able to dish MWs or negate inv, and those few, elite models will melt.

    • @albertovalcarenghi350
      @albertovalcarenghi350 2 роки тому +11

      @@Ankhtowe oppo is the shortened version of opponent. It's a farly common term.
      That said, probably i wasn't clear. Mine wasn't an argument to negate the fact that custodes is a NPE army. They are an army with a certain set of abilities, BUT it won’t always work. Their weakness is that they are a costly, elite army, so they will be countered hard by other armies. I would like to see them against a MWs factory as TS, then we'll see.
      This one againg GSC, just happened to be the perfect match for them.

    • @krilc
      @krilc 2 роки тому +7

      @@Ankhtowe Okay now show us on the space marine model where did the Custode player touch you?

    • @viktorgabriel2554
      @viktorgabriel2554 2 роки тому +1

      @@albertovalcarenghi350 Custodies ignore Mortal Wounds now

    • @albertovalcarenghi350
      @albertovalcarenghi350 2 роки тому +1

      @@viktorgabriel2554 so (among other things) they don’t have to rely on Sisters of Silence for protection vs psykers? Good to know.

  • @bruce8108
    @bruce8108 2 роки тому +12

    Aw was hoping for Josh playing his golden boys. But looking forward to the game.

  • @jeffler383
    @jeffler383 2 роки тому +1

    The Vexillus Praetor is an Elite... come on guys they've never been an HQ slot

    • @redblackdg
      @redblackdg 2 роки тому

      Was searching for this before I said something lol.

    • @Morendie91
      @Morendie91 2 роки тому

      They make mistakes all the time, big noob ones a lot. On top of terrible matchups

  • @pythonking16.59
    @pythonking16.59 2 роки тому +9

    Anyone else think that 5 acolytes/metamorphs per box is ridiculously little considering their effectiveness? Like even with 12 termagants you can get something done, but 5 acolytes???

    • @vidarthorsby2052
      @vidarthorsby2052 2 роки тому +1

      Yes. It is arguably the best units in the codex and you want to own as many as possible. At least 3 units of 10. Perhaps smaller units as 'skill monkeys' to do seconderies. If this is a problem close to your heart I would recommend that you sand of the arms on some Neophytes. The acolytes comes with several spare arms, and they fit well on the side of sanded Neophytes. The 'old' start collecting GSC is great for this. The new patrol collection is excelent value, but there are no acolytes there. Thankfully with the new codex you are not locked into playing acolytes.

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 2 роки тому

      Well they're great for secondaries, flamer squads can easily get you crossfire where you need it, and metamorphs are ideal for wiping out small backfield units.

    • @Svejir
      @Svejir 2 роки тому

      I'd say 5d6 Hand Flamer shots is still fairly useful as long as you make use of Crossfire on Exposed Targets.

    • @4tooitous
      @4tooitous 2 роки тому

      Yes the $$$ for points value ratio is quite bad especially considering how essential they are.

  • @godcardofgrace2724
    @godcardofgrace2724 Рік тому

    1:05:00 that 'oh yeah baby' was magnificent

  • @endymionm1374
    @endymionm1374 2 роки тому +1

    I would recommend getting a 2nd camera and just keeping both on the tripod. The moving camera is so disorienting and takes away from what is otherwise good production.

  • @demonreaver9159
    @demonreaver9159 2 роки тому +5

    Thought metamorph hybrids had new rule where can fight when killed if hadn't yet fought? And did the Aberrants lose the ignore wounds on a 5+?

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 2 роки тому +1

      They sorta lost it but a biophagus can give it right back.
      Yeah pretty sure metamorphs fight on death.

    • @demonreaver9159
      @demonreaver9159 2 роки тому

      Aww ok, does kinda suck cause I liked using Aberrants

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 2 роки тому +2

      @@demonreaver9159 aberrants are doing just fine. Extra wound, toughness, and damage reduction. Plus it isn't random chance with the biophagus anymore so if you take one you are guaranteed to get the 5+++ if you want it. Plus he can buff CORE units now.

  • @---zo8hh
    @---zo8hh 2 роки тому +4

    Roll the dice! Roll the dice!!!

  • @cango8415
    @cango8415 2 роки тому +1

    Im so happy Matthew's waiting for codex is finally done. I only wonder if he liked changes

  • @spicybarbecue222
    @spicybarbecue222 2 роки тому +2

    Peoples custodies army lists already looking identical

    • @Svejir
      @Svejir 2 роки тому +1

      First one I have seen without a Telemon or a Achillus so doing a bit better already.

  • @emperornapoleon6204
    @emperornapoleon6204 2 роки тому +1

    These ninth edition battle reports are really neat to watch, but Custodes make me glad I play 5th edition!

  • @jebbaker411
    @jebbaker411 2 роки тому +1

    That looks like a welyn reaper t-shirt
    I see you are a man of culture as well

  • @kb8600
    @kb8600 2 роки тому +1

    Neophyte datasheet says unit size is 10-20. I think the points misprinted the unit size as 5-15.

  • @caseymon55
    @caseymon55 2 роки тому +1

    When the bikes charged the transport, can't they not wound on 2's from your GSC trait?

  • @gorgonopsian5611
    @gorgonopsian5611 2 роки тому

    I always enjoy watching Matt play. I would have really liked to play him back in the day when I played 40k 2nd edition

  • @drhapi5308
    @drhapi5308 2 роки тому +1

    Oh wow this looks really good! Nice editing.

  • @Azrael178
    @Azrael178 2 роки тому +2

    I died inside when you said bike have hurricane bolters. That is the only thing in this army Has decent anti dread punch and all of their vechicles are dreadnoughts becouse"they dont know how to build" but that's fine. I want to be wrong here

  • @Tyrnak_Fenrir
    @Tyrnak_Fenrir 2 роки тому +1

    Crossfire feels like it should be a universal rule.

  • @dhawkeye4439
    @dhawkeye4439 2 роки тому +4

    Hey Matt, crossfire, don’t forget it

  • @johannoren2787
    @johannoren2787 2 роки тому

    Really enjoy this battle report! I am new to 40k and I play GSC, which is tricky but I got a lot of good tips from this video, thanks!

  • @Xenothios
    @Xenothios 2 роки тому +9

    Jeeze, custodes are gross with how little they let you play your army.

    • @theswampus670
      @theswampus670 2 роки тому +2

      they feel kinda like Blue-Green in MTG, a dozen ways to shut down your plan and ridiculous stats to punish you and let them make mistakes.

  • @MRrubberduck85
    @MRrubberduck85 2 роки тому +6

    this was such a sad match up but you never know till you play it

  • @Archon762
    @Archon762 2 роки тому +9

    Think it's really telling how GSC is going to go just from the box-set. Custodes new model is versatile, powerful, and another must take for Custodes. Saboteur is... fine.

  • @darkbunny9994
    @darkbunny9994 2 роки тому +3

    I can tell that I've been playing too much of the Gladius video game when even the words "neophyte hybrids" make my blood boil a bit.

  • @mercifulmoff
    @mercifulmoff Рік тому

    One Custodian would’ve wiped out that whole Cult. This was just a formality.

  • @arthurrosa9403
    @arthurrosa9403 2 роки тому +1

    Just sad for the lack of sisters.

  • @GSCNiilo
    @GSCNiilo 2 роки тому +3

    Metamorphs always fight in the fight phase even if they are destroyed prior to them attacking.

  • @AnotherMC
    @AnotherMC 2 роки тому +11

    GW could of literally done this for they’re Warhammer+ to hype up Pre-orders. But no, they’re just replying on rules leaks.

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 2 роки тому +1

      But they gave these books to them and asked them to do this. Personally I'm happier with a bunch of people previewing it vs GW locking that behind a paywall.

  • @alzef1375
    @alzef1375 2 роки тому

    35:28 normal movements
    35:29 all-out showing up of genestealers outta nowhere
    Fuckers are like bugs, lol

  • @DeLeonHD
    @DeLeonHD 2 роки тому

    Wait I got confused. How did the custodes player shoot his hurricane bolters twice? Or was it just he was capped on dice and did that half and half?

  • @justinshaw2
    @justinshaw2 2 роки тому +8

    Always lovely to see the golden chaps!

    • @MrRooscruggs
      @MrRooscruggs 2 роки тому

      Any idea the paint recipe for the Custodes gold? Looks very good.

  • @InvinciblKillerQueen
    @InvinciblKillerQueen 2 роки тому

    lol at "I want to show off the new crossfire mechanics!" "Well I completely forgot the new Crossfire mechanics for half the game"

  • @warhammer1104
    @warhammer1104 2 роки тому +13

    Puts about 350 pts of mele attacks just to do a wound. Custodes, wow, fun?

    • @Maximorix
      @Maximorix 2 роки тому

      250 points of custodes in their melee doing only 4 damages so 1 dead, how fun it is GSC ?

    • @warhammer1104
      @warhammer1104 2 роки тому

      @@Maximorix Only 4 damage? Do you want more? Is next to unkillable units not enough for you?

    • @Maximorix
      @Maximorix 2 роки тому +1

      @@warhammer1104 4 damage from around 15 attack is pretty sad because of -1 damage. GSC player can have a entire army +1 to hit, to wounds still cry when a custodes succeed is coinflip.

    • @warhammer1104
      @warhammer1104 2 роки тому

      @@Maximorix Gsc have Bs 4 on the entire army with limited shootng potential and bad saving profiles across the board. If they don't kill they themselves just die! Custodies hit on 2+ and mostly wounds on 3+ with t5, 2+ saves and 4+ inv. One army can take a huge gamble to maybe do some damage and trade up in points if your lucky, while the other is just casually walking into combat and is pretty much guaranteed damage because why not right?

  • @MacNuggetsTV
    @MacNuggetsTV 2 роки тому +2

    Looking at the custodes list I am wonderng if I am missing something I calculated the points to be 1960, I just wonder if you added a captain commander trait?

  • @williamculverwell7738
    @williamculverwell7738 2 роки тому +4

    Did they not use crossfire?

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 2 роки тому +3

      Does seem odd given how important it is for the army now.

    • @tommybetts5071
      @tommybetts5071 2 роки тому +2

      Absolutely crucial part of the new codex

  • @Yellow13Firestorm
    @Yellow13Firestorm 2 роки тому

    Before watching this video my pre-game/headline scanning thoughts
    Custodies: Genestealers? LMAO get bodied *dabs*
    after the video: predictible.

  • @jmwisey01
    @jmwisey01 2 роки тому +1

    Wait, the banner is a HQ?

  • @cooptastrofie
    @cooptastrofie 2 роки тому

    How did Josh make the bases of his Custodians?

    • @mwgjosh5161
      @mwgjosh5161 2 роки тому

      www.gamersgrass.com/product-category/battle-ready-bases/temple/

  • @benjaminloyd6056
    @benjaminloyd6056 2 роки тому

    Custodes are insufferable glittery pretty boys. I really like Luka, but man are custodes aggravating.

  • @nathaniliescutotherescue6047
    @nathaniliescutotherescue6047 2 роки тому

    The amount of cocked dice in this is painful.

  • @viktorgabriel2554
    @viktorgabriel2554 2 роки тому +2

    Rigged to blow should be 3 not d3.
    also i dont think ill ever play against Custodies since it feels like i am not allowed to play my army since they can just say no you cant do that becose i say so and that is not fun if you ask me.
    it was still a fun game to watch

  • @duetbreaker
    @duetbreaker 2 роки тому

    Can the blade champion take captain Commander traits?

    • @Epeen126
      @Epeen126 2 роки тому

      no, it's only shield captains that get captain commander traits.

  • @davidtrujillo1689
    @davidtrujillo1689 2 роки тому +2

    It's fun how custodes now are even more of a brick than Deathwing armys

    • @TehAngrehPANDA
      @TehAngrehPANDA 2 роки тому +8

      like they should? they should be the most elite faction in the game

    • @davidtrujillo1689
      @davidtrujillo1689 2 роки тому

      @@TehAngrehPANDA yes, of course, I’m absolutely not complaining. I literally find it funny, IDK why.

  • @ComandaKronikk
    @ComandaKronikk 2 роки тому

    fkn custodes, GSC 4 eva! FOR THE FOUR ARMED EMPEROR!

  • @ihitge
    @ihitge 2 роки тому +3

    I can't see how GSC can compete with Custodes, sadly.

    • @Lykandras
      @Lykandras 2 роки тому

      They can. But not with a list like this. They need a player who really knows the dex in and out. GSC is not an army where go: Here is the dex, now win.

    • @interceptor2407
      @interceptor2407 2 роки тому

      They can easily win against custodes. Matt played them totally wrong and also forgot a lot of rules.

  • @M00nDanCR
    @M00nDanCR 2 роки тому +2

    Are you guys sure flyers still shoot after falling back?

    • @MrLegendarySaiyan
      @MrLegendarySaiyan 2 роки тому +7

      You shouldn't use flyer word. It's better to use fly keyword or aircraft. Assuming you mean unit with fly keyword answer is no unless it has special rules. Aircraft on the other hand can shoot, because it does not fall back when it moves.
      What you missed was that Luka used strat to make it possible.

    • @azir64
      @azir64 2 роки тому

      at what point in the video was this btw?

    • @MrLegendarySaiyan
      @MrLegendarySaiyan 2 роки тому

      @@azir64 55:47

    • @Zzzzzzzyxwvu
      @Zzzzzzzyxwvu 2 роки тому +4

      The stratagem Luka used ‘maneuver and fire’ allowed a unit with ‘fly’ to fall back and shoot.

    • @M00nDanCR
      @M00nDanCR 2 роки тому +1

      @@Zzzzzzzyxwvu I am so dumb, I just watched it running in the background and I missed that he used a strat to allow that. Disregard my stupidity please.

  • @WiredCurrent
    @WiredCurrent 2 роки тому +1

    So just as a point of feedback. When you were panning across the GSC army (currently watching) the camera was shuttering back and forth very quickly and it was very unpleasant to look at. I'm not sure anything can necessarily be done about it but I hadn't noticed it happening before.

  • @alexneal9534
    @alexneal9534 2 роки тому +2

    Worst codex pairing ever. Poor old stealers lol.

  • @mattyspage
    @mattyspage 2 роки тому +1

    Those mold lines on the abominants :S

    • @Svejir
      @Svejir 2 роки тому

      And Purethread Pantstealers.

  • @dirtyapple102
    @dirtyapple102 2 роки тому

    Luka asking about open top rules and made a comment about ghost arks.... every codex since death guard and before is already outdated... SMDH...

  • @Zerato
    @Zerato 2 роки тому

    New gsc hurts because I have Russes

  • @isiahduran2041
    @isiahduran2041 2 роки тому +1

    Really feels like vehicles shouldn't get to be blipped. Doesn't make logical sense lol

  • @strongerandwiser2023
    @strongerandwiser2023 2 роки тому

    Been painting warhammer for a few weeks now and looking at how to play the games.. Coming from a gaming background as in a "PC gamer" playing alot of RTS like starcraft 2 etc, this seems so... lacking. I just cant get into it. I honestly dont get the appeal? Love the look of the minatures but does anyone else feel like that ?? I guess this game isnt for everyone huh.

    • @squidjuice666
      @squidjuice666 2 роки тому

      It certainly isn't for everyone however I personally love putting the models I worked hard on in action on the tabletop. A large part of it for me is "theater of the mind" which is a fancy way of saying that I use my imagination to fill in the lack of moving graphics and the like hahaha it also helps that I love the lore

  • @SergioMartinez-in9wx
    @SergioMartinez-in9wx 2 роки тому +1

    Absolute worst dice rolls in history...

  • @kenderareawesome
    @kenderareawesome 2 роки тому +2

    I dislike how much custodies do in their opponents turn.

  • @kiranarquin3109
    @kiranarquin3109 2 роки тому

    So, are the katahs something you can change in between games after you see the opponents army? Or do you set it before you see the opponents list?

    • @davidmendez9256
      @davidmendez9256 2 роки тому +3

      you set them AFTER units are set up on the table

    • @Iggyboyblue
      @Iggyboyblue 2 роки тому

      @@davidmendez9256 So they deny you your tools, and adapt to deal with your army. That’s nice.

    • @davidmendez9256
      @davidmendez9256 2 роки тому

      @@Iggyboyblue Custodes aren’t good at all, I think they are just a bad match up for GSC. They lost a lot of survivability in this codex

    • @Iggyboyblue
      @Iggyboyblue 2 роки тому

      @@davidmendez9256 Not good at all is stretching it, they're decent. Custodes have decent results, and they have been like a very "gatekeeper" army, punish non-optimal builds and badly aged books. What survivability did they lose? Going Emperor's Chosen even negates one of their weaknesses.

    • @davidmendez9256
      @davidmendez9256 2 роки тому

      @@Iggyboyblue they lost all 3++, Custodes have zero 3++ where previously they could have 3/4th of their army be 3++.
      They lost Adamantium and Auramite, they lost ignore psychic powers on 4+ (3+ on wardens), the -1 to hit Vexilia got heavily nerfed (although it is cheaper), grim responsibility (-1s) got nerfed and now can’t help the dreadnoughts or any vehicles. Those are looses based solely on durability and got zero durability buffs with the exception of the 4++ on mortal wounds for a single shield host.
      I’m not saying they are trash, just that they are middle of the road at best when it comes to 9th edition codex

  • @timeenoughatlast3368
    @timeenoughatlast3368 2 роки тому +10

    Hum, those codexs dont look fun to fight together. I could feel Matt's disappointment throughout the game. I get making Custodes tough but did GW need to give them several different ways of just shutting down the opponent's fun abilities? Going for a -1 attack chapter against a melee faction just sucks.
    That ending was crushing. Sorry Matt, may want to make a rule of not matching these factions anymore.

    • @nemo-no-name
      @nemo-no-name 2 роки тому

      I think Custodes should just go out of rotation. They don't seem fun at all, against anyone. Even if they lose it won't be fun batrep.

    • @timeenoughatlast3368
      @timeenoughatlast3368 2 роки тому

      @@nemo-no-name I'd say they should at least try the codex against Orks or Dark Eldar lists. It might be more in their weight class. I think the big issue in this matchup is that the Custodes, especially the chapter Luka brought, was just such a hard counter to the GSC.
      I don't think he did it on purpose, but it ruined the game.

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 2 роки тому

      I mean genecult are actually more shooty now and I think Matt's list was pretty mired in how genecult used to be. You don't really just straight up fight custodes and expect to wipe them and genecult melee relies on wiping out what they fight before retaliation.
      Personally I would say a genecult army actually tooled up for mission secondaries look scarier than custodes.

  • @Malllttt
    @Malllttt 2 роки тому

    Neophytes are 10-20 man squads, the codex is an error. Put about 5 minutes of thinking into this video…

    • @Morendie91
      @Morendie91 2 роки тому +1

      Or.. like read it. Double check it. They didn't even question it, it seems

  • @bennemeth625
    @bennemeth625 2 роки тому +3

    I'm glad they're updating GSC finally, but man, fighting Imperium as a non Imperium faction looks as depressing as ever.

    • @imalazynub
      @imalazynub 2 роки тому +4

      Where have you been the last two years? Drukhari, Orks, and Nids have been/still are the S-tier armies winning tournaments. I'll grant you that AdMech was S-tier for a while too, but the Imperium has only had 1/4 of the top tier armies in 9th edition so far.

    • @purestrain3099
      @purestrain3099 2 роки тому +2

      @@imalazynub nids S-tier? topkek.

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 2 роки тому +1

      @@purestrain3099 they're seeing tons of tournament wins since their last rules update with leviathan. The buffs were real.

    • @purestrain3099
      @purestrain3099 2 роки тому

      @@Blight02 We can just wait a few weeks until that railgun comes out, tau wont probably wont win more games because of it but they will heavily skew any lists that rely on monsters.
      Also, mostly FW heavy armies are doing work, pure codex nids are still sub par.

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 2 роки тому

      @@purestrain3099 I mean it's not even the age of the dimacharon anymore. There are certainly plenty of lists with a harridan in it now but I've actually seen a bunch of codex units get used nowadays. Custodes will still be using FW units heavily too.

  • @ScilentDeath
    @ScilentDeath 2 роки тому +1

    Nothing in these will be all that relevant when the tau and eldar come out, they are shaping up to be seriously stupidly broken.

  • @willdelozier5754
    @willdelozier5754 2 роки тому

    48:37 💀💀

  • @marcelbehncke900
    @marcelbehncke900 2 роки тому +3

    Genestealer Cult is and was always playable Matthew XD

  • @Izathel1
    @Izathel1 2 роки тому

    I enjoy MWG battle reports generally, but I just think Matt's playstyle isn't suited to GSC in this context. I think the new Codex seems great, but it isn't like marines where you can play a janky list and still do moderately well. It seems like it was designed to rely on well-done synergy and tight piloting to do well. I think GSC *definitely* have the tools to overtake Custodes, but, for example, losing that badly on primary (even with multi-model Custodes) seems indicative of not really having a plan with your GSC.

    • @viktorgabriel2554
      @viktorgabriel2554 2 роки тому +1

      so are you saying GSC are a badly designed codex? where you are forced to play one way and never allowed to play any other witch is the definition of a bad design

    • @Izathel1
      @Izathel1 2 роки тому

      @@viktorgabriel2554 I mean that isn't the "definition of bad design", but no, I don't think you are "forced to play one way". I think reviews and battle reports suggest that the Codex has a variety of playstyles but that, unlike marines, datasheets are specialists, not Swiss Army Knives.
      This particular game looked like grabbing a bunch of tools from a toolbox and then looking frustrated when it was hard to tighten bolts with a hammer. For example - Matt brought both Goliath Trucks and Goliath Rockgrinders. But the unit he ran up the board was the Truck, not the Rockgrinder. He took a bunch of random shooting, but almost never used Crossfire. He put a ton of things in deep strike, but basically used none of them to score any points.

    • @Lykandras
      @Lykandras 2 роки тому

      @@viktorgabriel2554 No. but it takes proper planning to built a list. Everything is viable in the codex, it is seriously amazing. But you cannot through a list together in 5mins and hope to do well. You have to tech for what you want to do. GSC is the faction for people who really want to go indeepth. The design of the codex is the best I have seen in years from GW.

  • @fatalkillzone
    @fatalkillzone 2 роки тому

    Can you react to the video "I made a Big Ork" by Scratch bashing?

  • @garywhite8292
    @garywhite8292 2 роки тому

    Dang Matthew your roll are trash lol. Jk i really hope your enjoying the new codex.

  • @nemo-no-name
    @nemo-no-name 2 роки тому +7

    Wow, this was just brutally unfun.

  • @juhumamamam3768
    @juhumamamam3768 2 роки тому

    salvus first.. breh...

  • @ForceM1782
    @ForceM1782 2 роки тому +1

    Does the Custods guy know that you can choose to use stance 2 of Dactarai per unit, or not? He keeps hitting Multi-wound Infantry and vehicles with the +1 Attack 1 Damage profile, when he would often easily wipe out something if he didn't.
    You can just use your normal attack profile for any unit if it makes more sense to do so... So either he hasn't read or understood the rule, (as always on MWG) or he can't do basic math.

    • @mwgjosh5161
      @mwgjosh5161 2 роки тому +1

      Luka stepped in to cover last minute because I was off sick, not perfect but I think he did just fine

  • @airborneanimal9170
    @airborneanimal9170 2 роки тому +2

    Wow. Watching this game reminded me of why I stopped playing 40K.
    Forget the blatant army and ability imbalances, it was the PLAYERS.
    Changing abilities selected (OOPS!), "accidently" rolling too many dice and causing to many deaths/wounds, flopping dice instead of rolling them, and expecting any "conflict" to always come out in their favor.
    Thank you for reminding me, so I will not be tempted by nostalgia.

  • @katarhall3047
    @katarhall3047 2 роки тому +3

    So nothing changed for GSC. Good job GW, great updating....

    • @Morendie91
      @Morendie91 2 роки тому

      Lots changed, this guy just didn't bother actually reading the codex or rules. And per usual paired terrible match-up lists.

  • @a-manwhorememains334
    @a-manwhorememains334 2 роки тому +1

    Jesus Custodes dominated this it wasn't even funny. Arcane genetic strat along with emperors auspice just shut down alot of plays it was slaughter.

  • @pajmage
    @pajmage 2 роки тому +2

    Very nice painted armies and an interesting battle report...but theres just too many mistakes made here. From illegal army composition to missing rules/abilities that are almost mandatory to making confusing tactical choices. FOr a first show BatRep I would expect much better, especially for army composition, they should be checked and double checked. Most preview videos etc have rightly pointed out the min 5 typo for Neophytes yet here we have an army using them...it smacks of a poor, rushed video made to grab views and potential subs from the newly released codex hype.

  • @_A.d.G_
    @_A.d.G_ 2 роки тому +5

    Hi guys! I need help from the community! When I was (much) younger and fresh to the hobby, I used to watch tutorials made by a canadian girl, from Toronto if I recall it well. She was of asian heritage. Nostalgia is gripping me badly: can anyone provide support? Thank you very much in advance!

    • @Squishysforbreakfast
      @Squishysforbreakfast 2 роки тому +5

      Oh no, the Emperor is a simp!?

    • @_A.d.G_
      @_A.d.G_ 2 роки тому

      @@Squishysforbreakfast uh? Forgive me, what's a simp? 😅

    • @Geekaylee
      @Geekaylee 2 роки тому +2

      Are you thinking of Teri Litorco?

    • @_A.d.G_
      @_A.d.G_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@Geekaylee YES! BINGO! Thanks a lot, friend! I can still remember her "shame in you if you use paper clips"!
      😄😄😄

    • @malekiththeeternityking5433
      @malekiththeeternityking5433 2 роки тому +3

      So the Emperor went back to Terra to simp for an Asian chick huh

  • @ForceM1782
    @ForceM1782 2 роки тому +4

    MWG batreps, as always, so full of mistakes and whoopsies that you might as well watch a game of Cricket to learn about 40k. It starts even in list presentation with the Neophytes who need to be 10, and the Vexillus Praetor not being an HQ. Then Crossfire is forgotten, and so on and so forth.
    It's not asked too much from you to read the rules and remember them. Other much smaller channels manage to do it just fine.
    I have nothing against the occasional mistake. But i think i have never seen any batrep with fewer than 5 errors, mistakes, whoopsies and omissions. And most of the time, it really affects the outcome of the game and that's a real shame! I stopped watching because of it, but every time i give you a new chance, it takes max one minute until the first gaffe comes...

    • @mwgjosh5161
      @mwgjosh5161 2 роки тому +1

      I can't speak to the Neophytes but I believe it's been pointed out to be a typo in the codex, and yes when I sent Luka the list to play for me due to illness I didn't type out all of the battlefield roles and there was an error on what the Vexillus was. I assume the cricket players would have gotten that correct.

  • @Tom_Cruise_Missile
    @Tom_Cruise_Missile 2 роки тому

    New Custodes: Old custodes, but without the few things that made them good, facing increasingly powerful armies! Yaaaaaay! Pardon me if I'll pass.

  • @bloodeagle7668
    @bloodeagle7668 2 роки тому

    Not saying it's a good thing that Custodes are this blisteringly OP but it is at least lore accurate.

  • @garethsteel2893
    @garethsteel2893 2 роки тому +1

    Looks like golden boys are another zero skill level army, the longer this edition goes on sadly the more I become to dislike it

    • @albertovalcarenghi350
      @albertovalcarenghi350 2 роки тому +1

      To be fair the edition is fine, much better than 8th. The problem lies in the codexes.

    • @Morendie91
      @Morendie91 2 роки тому

      To be fair this guy didn't know Jack about the new gsc codex, his list was illegal and forgot tons of crucial rules

  • @muratakcan1299
    @muratakcan1299 2 роки тому +1

    Wouldnt it be great if any time someone tells a rule or ability, we would see a reminder of what the heck theyre talking about at the side of the screen ? Or is this channel too "pro" for that ?