You're calling it lifting the tire, I call it carrying a tire up to the next rock. I have bone stock front shocks, inner springs removed in the rear with 75W-90 automotive gear oil, Royal Purple specifically. Works very well, but I do run 90mm DL's on all my other rigs. Nice video!
HR makes an 80mm front shock used with no internal springs and oil just touching bladder. When I find the video with the part# I'll put it in the Reply.
Interesting video! I have really enjoyed my Ascent so far. Just now getting ready to start tuning the suspension. I have held off because I like to tune based on what the truck CAN'T get over. So many people complain about the flex in this truck...but it still drives over everything. It makes me wonder if the "internet wisdom" of what "shouod" be done isn't really correct after all.
My shock setup is as follows. Remove internal springs in all four shocks. Swap out shock shaft o-rings with Traxxas 2361 blue silicone o-rings. The stock o-rings are a bit too large and when the lower cartridge is tightened down, it adds tension to the shock shaft. The 2361s are drop-in replacements. I then changed to 30wt oil in the shocks. Mini-T soft front springs on the front, Mini-T medium front springs in the rear. I have much more flex than before, but the suspension in controlled and predictable.
Dude that is a great clear breakdown on the build for these. I really appreciate that! Haha I need that simple explanation! Did that get you a tire worth of flex?
@@HobbyDrop after doing those mods, I can put a front tire on three stock tires stacked on their side and the rear tire barely lifts. Very easy mod to do that makes huge results.
@HobbyDrop on my crawlers I usually start out with soft springs and 60wt oil. If they have a 2 hole piston I'll make sure that the holes are a bit bigger and clear of obstructions. Always use green slim on the orings cause sometimes from the factory they don't get greesed.
Anything beyond 1 tire size of flex is unnecessary, actually can cause you to get your axles busted when they get stuck in hole vs. gliding over a hole. Remove all inner springs, add 65wt oil all 4 shocks, widen your stance a few mm and add brass inner rings on your beadlocks. Or just buy a set of treal weighted beadlocks. You'll have a Beast on your hands!! 💯🤙🏼
I originally took the rear inner springs out. I am now going to put the inner springs back in and put the rear shocks on the lowest hole in the rear to raise the rear on the truck and hopefully push the front down. I also have the softest mini t springs in the front and hardest mini t springs in the rear.
As a lcg you dont always wamt flex. Flex can actually make your rig roll or flip over if top of truck is heavier then bottom so take ineer springs out lower the truck and add some weight on the front axle
Picking tires up is ok. From my experience on 24th scale 39mm-43mm perform better than anything and pick tires up rather than articulate fully to keep'em down.
The Dravtech springs also work on the stock shocks. I switched to the Dravtech 96mm shocks but now thinking I will get the 106mm from the rear and keep the 96mm on front. Not budget friendly but just switching the is a little better.
By the time you take shocks off and "fix" them you'd be better off just replacing them with some Desert Lizards with new carbon fiber shock mounts. I'm working on some Titanium ones in my shop that hopefully will mass produce and sell online.
Ohh good question! So nothing major, but I did I have to use a spacer to push the panhard mount out of the way. So the shock could lay over correctly.I’m happy to upload a short or something explaining that if needed!
The cg is to high the chassis is so heavy you need weight in the wheels or better yet the axles desert lizards will help if you set them up correctly, that will stop the shocks from unloading
No flex, top heavy, large pumpkins, stiff tires, plastic rims, cheap shocks and weak drag break at best. It is the typically cheap RTR ,that needs everything replaced. If you are looking for a good or a better than good rock crawler.......that isn't it. It could be a good starter rig for someone that has never crawled. @@HobbyDrop
@@rccrawlingaddict207 ohhh exactly, it’s not a rig for someone who has been in the LCG world for a long time. (No RTR is). This is absolutely an entry level rig that gives a new hobbies a great start.
I just saw a good driver take this truck and beat the crap out of a 1200 dollar plus rig..for 200-250 bucks u can make this truck destroy trucks at quadruple the price
The factory shocks are garbage I cannot believe anybody's even wasting their time with them anything would be better. I would use desert lizards myself. They are not cheap but they are a solid investment . I would use softest longest spring in the kit above dampening piston. Use Four Hole piston with 27.5 shock oil . I run this setup on all my trucks . Vrd carbon , Rock Pirates Vanquish build, several Traxxas trx4 as well. And a little brass for tuning. All of my rigs are very competitive . I run 90s on carbon hundreds on the rest. All run at full droop. 5 + inches of articulation front and back .
That’s a nice breakdown. I’d need the parts in front of me to fully understand it 😂 but I might have to try it out sometime. At least on one of my rigs!
@@HobbyDrop I don't have any photos.And all of my shocks are put together already. Just reply to this message when you are ready, I will be as much of help as I possibly can.
I recommend going with dessert lizard shocks they are amazing and are not too expensive
You're calling it lifting the tire, I call it carrying a tire up to the next rock. I have bone stock front shocks, inner springs removed in the rear with 75W-90 automotive gear oil, Royal Purple specifically. Works very well, but I do run 90mm DL's on all my other rigs. Nice video!
Haha tomato tomAhto 😂 thanks man!
You have the best videos on the subject. Great camera work
Yo that’s high praise! Haha thanks man!!
The Redcat looks great for the price I’m hoping to get one for Christmas, Great video
I hope you do too! This thing is awesome.
Don't listen to the haters it's a awesome starting point to get into RC crawling
I like your Think Celestial on the back of your cab
Haha thanks man! Gotta remind myself! :)
HR makes an 80mm front shock used with no internal springs and oil just touching bladder. When I find the video with the part# I'll put it in the Reply.
HR MTT30FS148is the spring number. They are 30mm length and 10mm width.
I would try putting the top of rear shocks forward and at a more horizontal angle for more rear flex
You can also front cab ot and take some of the plastic of the chassis that is not actually needed
Interesting video!
I have really enjoyed my Ascent so far. Just now getting ready to start tuning the suspension. I have held off because I like to tune based on what the truck CAN'T get over.
So many people complain about the flex in this truck...but it still drives over everything. It makes me wonder if the "internet wisdom" of what "shouod" be done isn't really correct after all.
That’s a great method! I have found for me that I like about a tire worth of flex. I feel that much prevents most rollovers. (Due to flex).
My shock setup is as follows. Remove internal springs in all four shocks. Swap out shock shaft o-rings with Traxxas 2361 blue silicone o-rings. The stock o-rings are a bit too large and when the lower cartridge is tightened down, it adds tension to the shock shaft. The 2361s are drop-in replacements. I then changed to 30wt oil in the shocks. Mini-T soft front springs on the front, Mini-T medium front springs in the rear. I have much more flex than before, but the suspension in controlled and predictable.
Dude that is a great clear breakdown on the build for these. I really appreciate that! Haha I need that simple explanation! Did that get you a tire worth of flex?
@@HobbyDrop after doing those mods, I can put a front tire on three stock tires stacked on their side and the rear tire barely lifts. Very easy mod to do that makes huge results.
@@bugman72 dude that’s awesome! Thanks for the advice!
What brand of oil for the 30wt?
@@ManBearPig1893 brand shouldn't matter, but I used some Losi 30wt oil that I had laying around.
Nice👍👍😎😎 shock tuning is huge!
It’s a big factor! And I’m not good at it haha.
@HobbyDrop on my crawlers I usually start out with soft springs and 60wt oil. If they have a 2 hole piston I'll make sure that the holes are a bit bigger and clear of obstructions. Always use green slim on the orings cause sometimes from the factory they don't get greesed.
is there a reason i see almost everyone have a bungee cord that stretches bumper to bumper?
@@scorepenaut it’s just a simple cheap way to do a winch. It’s called a kinetic winch.
Anything beyond 1 tire size of flex is unnecessary, actually can cause you to get your axles busted when they get stuck in hole vs. gliding over a hole. Remove all inner springs, add 65wt oil all 4 shocks, widen your stance a few mm and add brass inner rings on your beadlocks. Or just buy a set of treal weighted beadlocks. You'll have a Beast on your hands!! 💯🤙🏼
Agreeed! Check out my last couple videos in the playlist, I got this thing to run some sick lines
I originally took the rear inner springs out. I am now going to put the inner springs back in and put the rear shocks on the lowest hole in the rear to raise the rear on the truck and hopefully push the front down. I also have the softest mini t springs in the front and hardest mini t springs in the rear.
What kind of difference do you feel it’s made? How much flex do you have with that set up?
As a lcg you dont always wamt flex. Flex can actually make your rig roll or flip over if top of truck is heavier then bottom so take ineer springs out lower the truck and add some weight on the front axle
I got rock pirates rc shock towers that is only upgrade i habe done and with free shock mod it works well
Picking tires up is ok. From my experience on 24th scale 39mm-43mm perform better than anything and pick tires up rather than articulate fully to keep'em down.
Yeah I know it’s not the worst thing. I’d like to have roughly a tires worth of flex.
Where are you? Looks fun
St. George, Utah. It’s a beautiful place for sure!
Why turn the shocks upside down??? That don’t make sense if you know how shocks work.
@@victordavis7461 it lowers the CG. But I’ve actually got they flipped back now.
For budget friendly I would suggest just getting the mini T shocks.
The Dravtech springs also work on the stock shocks. I switched to the Dravtech 96mm shocks but now thinking I will get the 106mm from the rear and keep the 96mm on front. Not budget friendly but just switching the is a little better.
By the time you take shocks off and "fix" them you'd be better off just replacing them with some Desert Lizards with new carbon fiber shock mounts. I'm working on some Titanium ones in my shop that hopefully will mass produce and sell online.
So will you cut off the current mountings and then bolt on the new?
Any major modifications you had to do to flip the shocks in the front? Like trimming the knuckles or anything like that?
Ohh good question! So nothing major, but I did I have to use a spacer to push the panhard mount out of the way. So the shock could lay over correctly.I’m happy to upload a short or something explaining that if needed!
Element springs fit and they are cheap enough at $7
Is that the ecto springs? What do you feel they would do to improve it?
@@HobbyDrop yes element enduro springs range from .71 pounds to 2 pounds. I use the 2 lightest ones and they work great on my comp truck
@@WreckitRalphie ok ok. I’ll have to look into em!
Surprised you're using stock wheels, I really didn't like them lol. Stock tires are good though.
Oh yeah those wheels will go soon! Haha just haven’t gotten to that yet :)
The cg is to high the chassis is so heavy you need weight in the wheels or better yet the axles desert lizards will help if you set them up correctly, that will stop the shocks from unloading
Yeah this chassis is super heavy! Have you had success setting up the desert lizards? If so, what technique do you use?
Sell it while it's still in good shape.
😂how come?
No flex, top heavy, large pumpkins, stiff tires, plastic rims, cheap shocks and weak drag break at best. It is the typically cheap RTR ,that needs everything replaced. If you are looking for a good or a better than good rock crawler.......that isn't it. It could be a good starter rig for someone that has never crawled. @@HobbyDrop
@@rccrawlingaddict207 ohhh exactly, it’s not a rig for someone who has been in the LCG world for a long time. (No RTR is). This is absolutely an entry level rig that gives a new hobbies a great start.
I just saw a good driver take this truck and beat the crap out of a 1200 dollar plus rig..for 200-250 bucks u can make this truck destroy trucks at quadruple the price
Where? Not all driver's are created equal.@@aaronwaterman6982
The factory shocks are garbage I cannot believe anybody's even wasting their time with them anything would be better. I would use desert lizards myself. They are not cheap but they are a solid investment . I would use softest longest spring in the kit above dampening piston. Use Four Hole piston with 27.5 shock oil . I run this setup on all my trucks . Vrd carbon , Rock Pirates Vanquish build, several Traxxas trx4 as well. And a little brass for tuning. All of my rigs are very competitive . I run 90s on carbon hundreds on the rest. All run at full droop. 5 + inches of articulation front and back .
That’s a nice breakdown. I’d need the parts in front of me to fully understand it 😂 but I might have to try it out sometime. At least on one of my rigs!
@@HobbyDrop I don't have any photos.And all of my shocks are put together already. Just reply to this message when you are ready, I will be as much of help as I possibly can.
@@richpeacock5768 thanks man I appreciate that!! I definitely will
Longer shocks = more flex
Simple as that? 😂 seems too easy but also costly 💰