Existentialism & Authenticity (feat.
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2023
- You can check out Olivia's channel here: @oliSUNvia
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I can see Olivia was obviously very uncomfortable with being in the same room as a Neutral Milk Hotel fan. But I'm glad she made the effort to see past your disfigurement!
I’m an empath and watching this video literally made me go to the bathroom and punch my mirror as hard as I can. I hope Olivia is gonna be okay after this.
Why do you think she's uncomfortable? I don't have time to watch the entire video
@@serenityssolace
Sisyphus 55 is actually a puppet that's controlled by a mischievous Shiba Inu, like in Silent Hill 2.
I would also be very uncomfortable
His a Neutral Milk Hotel fan?!!
@@AHH-phiethe vinyls on the wall
next time, i’ll make sure to think of a thought experiment where i don’t kill you
shawty has existential dread
I'm pretty sure Beauvoir said this to Sartre when they met
good day olivia, can u do me a favor and check the comments claiming ur “clea” discomfort caused by sisyphus and say if theyre right or not
this is what i watch instead of studying for my quarterly exams
You are on the right path brother😂🤣
same 🙃 gl by the way 😔
same
Fuck it drop out
same
no way my two fathers together
HAHAH exactlyyy
She's literally me fr. I learned about the big bang and shit when I was like 8 and I was already into dinosaurs and knew that they went extinct. So I remember trying to imagine being extinct and I got so scared, not being able to comprehend not being alive was so scary
One mental exercise that helps me personally is to think about how does my sixth finger feel, since I don't have a sixth finger. Absolute nothingness is scary
Had the opposite problem and was pissed the world wasn't being invaded by aliens or some crazy shit
Learning about natural disasters and other cataclysmic events in elementary was fun, thanks to the Day after tomorrow
@@christiang.l9457 hmm. isn't absolute nothingness just
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@@real_pattern I don't think it's blank space, it just does not exist, it exists outside time and space, it exists but it doesn't, exists outside our minds and our universe or so we think.
It always makes my brain feel weird when I see two people who are just internet faces and ideas in my head have real interactions with each other. I know you are both real in real life but you are not real on my screen but you are real in this video. Anyways I like both of your channels this is a cool podcast thankyou for making it mr. 55
Are you high or something because I am
i am
Hello fellow high folks
Same ee
Me too dropped som acid 🎉🎉🎉 waiting for ego death 😂😂😂
My two favorite Canadians back together for another Podcast? Today just got a whole lot better!
jesus christ i wasnt expecting him to be so built
this duo is unmatched, so glad you guys had another episode together 🙏🙏
Yo Sisyphus be pushin his rock!! 💪💪 Stay ripped big bro
i honestly have a crush on him
The fact that you guys are friends is my personal self-actualization and y’all are my ideal until I wrap my head around non-ideal morality. Thanks for sharing your brains with the internet.
dang... can't agree more
Is it just me or does the thumbnail for this video look like it was put in an air fryer for 24 hours
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@@oliSUNvia omg hi 🥺 the video was still great!
@@oliSUNvia damn she actually commented
Nah maybe like 3 hours
Bros rizz is philosophical 😂
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I appreciate how raw and unedited this video is. It dives deep into the mind of these two lovely philosophical thinkers without video cuts. Thank you both for showing us your thoughts to not only each other but to your channel.
I'm so happy I watch that video because it makes so much more sense seeing the reality behind her emotions. It is always delightful to see your content I absolutely love your content and I'm looking to support whenever I'm ready.
So interesting. I agree with you both about free will that we are free in the sense that our fate is not predetermined but we are so heavily influenced by our life experiences and oppressive structures that we aren’t 100% culpable for every action
That being said, I do think we need to take some responsibility for our actions and always try to improve in a way that benefits our community and relationships. Harm reduction all around should be a main priority in the legal system
My UA-cam algorithm had a field day on this one. I’m subbed to both
A sequel that we never expected
OK so it’s like kind of a common misconception that “philosophers dont exist today” but like they literally do. Philosophers in the past did the same exact thing, they sat with each other, and would come up with ideas and new thoughts and broaden their ideas. They were thinkers and they’d reference philosophers before them. philosophers arent dead and ppl need to stop thinking that modern day philosophers are like less than or not as smart. I can go on a whole tangeant abt this misconception because it genuinely bothers me so much. Philosophy is also ever changing and there’s no absolute to anything, there is no wrong nor right. And i think philosophy is like the art of conversation, understanding and listening. hope i make sense
Preach
I think about this so much we value certain opinions soooo much just because we have historically heard and valued them so much (highly correlated with being a rich white man rich and powerful social position etc)
And we don’t keep the same language of separation/clicky-ness and superiority and pretentious, which we tend to value and see as authoritative
Just very aligned with the idea of not having self estrangement of olisunvias recent vid
crazy collab again, love content from both of you, more pls
I'm glad to see her back in this channel! I loved the previous podcast ep with her...
I’ve been waiting for this collab
Reading Camus myth of sisyphos atm. Subbed to Booth recently just listened to your First Podcast together on spotify. Great timing
I loved your last podcast together, i'm so excited for this one.
My two favourite Canadian content creators!
HOLY SHIT I LOVE THIS COLLAB
plss more of these two
Love you guys together
47:00 the most powerful tool in democracy is the education system. I still cannot fathom why i never got taught psychology/philosophy in highschool. I do an economics study, and have to do this on the side because i recognize it’s significance. The only way you can change people as a government is through the education system. It is one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of the government
I didn’t expect Sisyphus to be that cute
One must imagine Sisyphus cute.
Femboy sisyphus
yea the timing is insane
NO way 2 of my favorite UA-camrs
One thought I had when Sisyphus mentioned the basic psychological needs: 1. Autonomy. 2. Competency. 3. Social relatedness, I thought someone could have all three but still commit war crimes or generally crimes against people outside of their community. So I think these still don't cover everything at least from the perspective of morality
My favorite collabs
I have never in any time in my life to participate in a discussion than now! I wanted to so badly just jump through the screen and sit on that couch and talk.
love this duooooo!!! i hope yall post more vids together :)
two of my fave creators niceeee
I knew they had chemistry
best duo ever
My favorite two creators let's gooooooo
happy to see olivia and in the aeroplane over the sea in the same place
The timing of these subjects in your channel are becoming a bit scary.
how pls
you are real i am real everything is real
@@jonahreyes-horvath249 why do you say that
@@WHYISEVERYHANDLEALREADYTAKEN9 he is lying
@@mateomoore6385 why do you say that
Did NOT see this crossover but it was well needed 😌
This video does a great job in unveiling how toxic Capitalism is to the human body, spirit, and soul, and honestly makes me excited for a potential future where human potential is able to thrive without it. Thank you for making the content that you do. It’s truly informative, and enlightening. It honestly inspires me to push on, and be myself.
It really makes me believe, what I know to be true, that authenticity is the best policy. Thank you guys! Much love
I find my meaning by the what,why and how i solve a problem(adaptability). I do believe there is a metric to a meaningful life but you have to first accept that there is a problem then ask what type (it is nature)the why followed by the how to fix it.From this is where i think growth stems from.
imagine if policy and systems were investigated and changed that led to problematic, risky or dangerous behaviour; actually stopping the social and material conditions which causes such behaviours in the first place.
In terms of interior design of the space a desk or table separating both could make these very deep topics a bit easier to talk about and a bit less awkward in terms of needing to turn to eachother to speak when especially in philosophical discussion, it feels less conversational and rather adding to a cloud of concepts. That or a room with a round face and or indirect seating like therapist offices/rooms. The seating is “facing” eachother but not directly so as to not force focus or eye contact on the person. The chairs are not directly facing eachother. which can be quite confronting and uncomfortable especially with no “defense” such as a table.
i love olivia
bro is built like an ancient greek specimen, and with that voice too. all he needs to do now is get shredded.
the itaos vinyl in the back is a cherry on top
right below madvillainy 🤝
Bro did yall read my thoughts or something cause this is EXACTLY what ive been thinking abt and going through right now
how to learn to IGNORE VANITY ? how to either conform or cope with vanity ?
Gravity laws dont apply to me, idk about u tho
Really good discussion
sisyphus i love u for reading cruel optimism
YOOO???? THIS IS GREAT
the guy on the left sounds like sisyphus 55
biceps lookin huge bro 💪
Both of these creators I find always talk about things in a vague way. Like there not macking an argument.
that's philosophy in a nutshell lol
I wish you would do an interview with Dr. Sapolsky. His new book explains so much…
Bless us all
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MADVILLAINY🔥🔥🦅🦅
this was my avengers
Well would ya look at that! Probably the two most down to earth ppl in the space. Gotta love it.
When two worlds collide woah
nice vibe!
omg yesss lets goooo
Hey Ben, I love the autumn leaves track you use in all your videos and wanna use it mine without being a total ripoff, whats the name of the artist you got all of your music from? Also love to see more vids with olivia :)
11:20 Deleuze . Immanence is an important topic in his work (inspired by ideas of Spinoza, also close to the phenomenology of Merleau Ponty (ideas about time flow for example))
Genial, ella..!!
my two favorite people
At around 40:00 mins on the topic of not seeing people as guilty or not guilty but rather looking at their factors and how they came to do that crime and essentially how much blame can be put on them. I feel like Olivia's view of it was wayyy too idealistic. I get why she wants what she does but it just doesn't work practically. e.g. How much responsibility does the guy who beats his wife because that's how his dad treated his mum and his sister have when it comes to his crimes. You could argue, not much. He didn't choose the family he was born into and how it scarred his mind and relationship with women. However, that doesn't mean that if he doesn't receive punishment because it 'wasn't his fault' that he won't just turn around and beat the next woman he's with. That's why risk to society is more feasible if you want to move away from the guilty/not guilty system because it doesn't really matter if you stole something because you come from a bad neighborhood and that's the culture there (to simplify circumstances) or you stole something just because you felt like it. The point is still that you stole something, and you have a greater risk of doing it again. Don't get me wrong, we should by all means have more empathy for people whose unfortunate uncontrollable circumstances have pushed them towards crime but that should be separate of the legal process since both people caused the same negative impact and have the same risk of doing it again. You should of course consider the reasons behind the crime and stop them in producing more future criminals on the large legislative scale not in a courthouse in individual present cases.
I think I agree with your viewpoint on criminal culpability in the legal system.
To me, the legal punishment of criminal behavior isn't a mere manifestation of blame or hatred; it's more to avoid an outcome or outcomes. As you said, if an entity is willing to do x (domestic abuse, murder, etc.), philosophy temporally falls to the wayside, and criminal act needs to be prevented. And so, a rational, civilized society should put systems and mechanisms in place - without a sense of hatred or blame for someone's environmental variables, but precisely because we don't want this outcome.
As you mentioned, there is value in considering those environmental variables. That thought and nuance could be placed outside the legal system and in rehabilitation programs, mental health services, community support, public awareness and education, etc.
Heck, maybe even legal reforms could be effective, such as shifting the focus from drug addiction incarceration toward rehabilitation or reintegration.
There are strategies where the environmental nuance can benefit the individual and society, but I agree that in the end, there needs to be some prevention of outcome; we must have a deliberate and nuanced understanding of the legal system and the undercurrents of one's environment.
BABE WAKE UPPPP
How cool is this.
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11:05 the particular wording here reminds me much of Martin Heidegger.
As someone who hasn’t spoken to my dad for just over 2 years, i think, on the topic of punishment and prison sentencing, one overlooked tool in law is the sanction.
The sanction is used as a tool to combat the sovereignty of states, and make punishment possible inside the sovereignty of states principle. But i also recognize the sovereignty of the individual. For moderate cases, a form of sanction would more suffice, if the villain does not pose a direct threat to its surroundings. It can be used more easily and can be satisfying to both parties. A 3 year isolation for example makes the villain know and push to improve himself, or not. Simultaneously, you can offer them guidance when they do want to improve themselves. Prison sentencing is this binary switch right now, and just like nukes, it is used more as a deterrent (extrinisic motivation) than a tool to improve the individual. However, realistically in the US, the problem is the government. What bullshit people get convicted for, de facto skin colour being a punnishable offense, i am less keen that incremental change suffice. Here in NL i am still convinced however of the democratic project, but the US is looking 30 years down the line like Brazil is today.
Alternatively, the reverse sanction, the term contract is also under utilized. Think in marriage, we also seek this definitive nature. While i recognize relationships need time to invest and mature, indefinite relationships seem unhealthy. It is like signing a football player for life. Why can’t a employee do it, but your spouse can? Term limits, and extensions of contracts, can make it infinitely long, but instead of a assumption, it automatically becomes a expectation as it will now require negotiation and diplomacy
our bro sisyphus looking 45 years old and 17 years old but on steroids at the same time, keep it up
olivia is so beautiful :)
Yo banger posters
madvillainy in the backgriund yay!!
Marcel the goat for preaching the indomitable spirit of humans
goats
too early to see the more "popcorn eating" worthy comments.
Guys they are dating I saw it in a dream
Why would you think that? Genuinely asking btw
@@fishymakesart2133 he saw it in a dream
Where did you get the awesome painting in the back from?
;)
@@artchad oh shit I see it in the background of your quitting alcohol vid! Did you paint it and send it to him or just happen to have the same one lol
Yeah! Lauren Berlant!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn olivia so cute
We don’t have free will.
i really dont like how my weird crisises are matching the same time line as sisyphuss. like oh shit, im going through a breakup *new video about breakup*.
Same here lmao
I would ask my twin to sleep with me at 6 because i would think about the sun exploding and everything id ever known would be gone.
You might have to check the phrasing on that fella cuz I read that and was concerned on the first read...
Heidegger is critizied as elitist; but he thought that authenticity is difficult for Dasein. Inauthenticity is the common mode of Being.
Authenticity isn't only part of your subjectivity. Sartre said that when you imagine choosing, you're choosing for humanity. Your choices are universalized; becoming a serial killer isn't an authentic choice because it can't be universalized. It's contradictory and self-defeating.
madvillainy
First thing I noticed too. Didn’t expect him to like MF DOOM.
flawless beard you grew:)
Madvillainy on the wall tho
The things i woudld do get a Girl like Olivia 😭
c'mon bro
my two parents :)
Uptalking college kid: "It's like, that idea of like, hope, and like, change, like Sartre, and like, Camus, like, weird rebellion--"
Will this be put on spotify?
Oh no he's hot!
I'm an optimistic nihilist. Its always nice to see another video.
is this not just absurdism?
@@alejandro.alejandro maybe lol. For me its knowing that everything is so pointless anyway. But because there is no meaning in the world, I get the freedom to come up with my own or not even have a purpose. Then live as is. Thats the optimistic part.
@alejandro.alejandro it's similar but not exactly Absurdism, Absurdism is more the revolt against the absurdity of the universe and live life the way you want to while accepting it's absurdities but not denying them.
@@JarOfTorbenI could be wrong, but isn't optimistic nihilism just the same? Knowing that life is meaningless, but still living fully (a sort of revolt). What I mean to say is that your definition of Absurdism could be used to define optimistic nihilism as well, so doesn't it make them both same?