For me as an old auto painter I'd have a matte black base, with a small thin glossy marbleized effect design line to break it up, and a very large metal flake silver with a candy green or purple over it.
One thing I would’ve done was to mask off the inside of the head tube and bottom bracket. I’d imagine that getting paint in those areas would mess with things.
I’m chomping at the bit to see the next video. I have that exact frame in my shop and have been trying to figure out what I was going to do with it. You and your team never cease to amaze me!! Thank you for all that you do.
Thanks a lot! Glad you liked it. If you want more great tech videos, you should head to GCN+ to watch films like this about the World's rarest bikes 👉 gcn.eu/wrb
Pro tip, For after primer do a mist coat of black spray paint as a guide coat, then use a sanding block for wet and dry. The black will show any low spots or blobs runs etc. Also, cover your work stand, ollie you animal lol
ETOE showed how to do this even how to make the chemical for the crystal effect. Well worth a view also how he holds the frame rather than suspending it where wind can blow the frame against your bike stand damaging the paint you've just laid down. 😉
From a 10 year Auto Painter overall good job, it's nothing to be afraid of, and every mistake CAN be fixed.... One tip I'd say is 3-5 light coats are better than 1-2 heavy coats. You just have less runs to deal with and sanding/prepping for top coats are usually alot easier that way.
I've painted a few frames, and it's always a fun project. I highly recommend for anyone to give it a shot (preferably not with your newest, best, and most expensive frame). Painting a frames, and components, is a wonderful creative outlet.
If you don't want to mess up a bike stand, use a broom handle supported in a (masked) workbench. Tape a bit of old inner tube around the top to provide some friction, then put the head tube over the end of the broom handle to support the frame. You can then easily rotate the frame to get good coverage, and turn it the other way up when required. The frame doesn't swing around in the wind and there's no risk of the cable catching the paint job.
Love the video. After watching your earlier Cervélo P1 video's I bought one myself and repainted it. This is now the base for my winter bike build project.
Nice job Ollie 👍🏼 Maybe worth mentioning that you get different types of Primers and when you’re doing steel or aluminum frames you need to use an Etching Primer first so that you get a good bind to the metal.
As a auto painter I have a few tips - to clean the frame use sprayaway glass cleaner of glass cleaners of that style in a aerosol can - you can sand the frame down with 180 then come back with 320 sand paper to get the 180 scratches out then you can scotch it the primer will fill the 320 scratches I’d put 3 coats on when you go to sand the frame you can lightly spray some other color paint on the prime so you’ll know when it’s all evenly sanded you can use 600 sand paper to do it the base will fill a 600 scratch 2-3 coats of base or until frame covered (obviously if you are doing different colors for effects like this you can do as many coats as needed) then 2-3 coats of clear depending on what kind of clear you are using can do as many as 5 id recommend a 2k clear with harder you can buy that in a can also tape off your bottom bracket by making a flower look with tape sticking it in the frame and having some stick out all the way around then fold it up together and put a piece of tape to hold it together also would hang it from the head tube lol
Can’t wait to see part 2! Last time I remember Ollie mentioning the ice effect paint job I recall he said it was achieved by using urea on the paint… hopefully the DIY one doesn’t 😂
Mask off threads, and bearing surfaces. Use panel wife before EVERY coat of paint. Spraying outside greatly increases the chances of dust and insects getting into the paint, use a tack cloth as well before each coat.
Very cool. Important things to add, mask off any area that take bearings and any screw threads. AND USE A CORRECT RESPIRATOR - NOT A DUST MASK! Please look after your lungs, and VOC's are nasty things.
Ollie's PhD wasn't very helpful here! (jk) ! First of all the mask, you used is for dust ! The fumes, or as more people know it the smell, do harmful stuff to your lungs and this mask does absolutely nothing! Secondly when you get the frame out of the sandblasting you DONT touch it with bare hands ! Because most people don't even gonna degrease it that's why I mention it (DIY project) ! As far as primer goes you can paint outside it will be sanded anyway! Make sure your spray bottle is always vertical and remind yourself that the pressure inside it drops as you paint (not good) that's why pros have an air compressor with an air tank! Also bearing races and bottom bracket should be covered! I don't know anything about the painting method you are using but outside still needs a lot more preparation than our example here! Anyway since it's DIY no worries!
This bike was really easy to assemble ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
The guy who blasted it had bare hands too. I don't know why this is a problem but maybe he cleaned off whatever harmful thing was on the frame before the handover scene was shot.
@@Xune2000 The oils on your hands will penetrate into the freshly blasted aluminum. This can affect how well paint adheres and can lead to defects in the paint job. Gloves are cheap. Parcel paper is cheap.
@@Xune2000 A lot of blasting isn't paint related, a lot of coatings don't mind a little contamination (Rustolium, Krylon, etc are really hard to screw up, but they also are very limited in the quality of the finish), so it's easy for a blaster to get complacent if the customer doesn't specifically mention it. But doing a specialty coating like this, Ya you want to take every precaution because often specialty coatings will run if you so much as look at them funny.
Olli Schoolboy error Aluminium Oxide paper Oakley Abrasives made Glass Paper incorrectly called sand paper. You use Etch Primer on Aluminium rather than a standard primer. Do not spray in temperatures below 10C 50F Make sure the surface is warm so as any water has evaporated from the metal so as you do not seal in any moisture on the prepared surface. Foreign bodies can contaminate the surface if you are applying paint outside. Not a good thing to do. Plastic film in a shed with an extractor fan would be a way around the problem. GCN Elves if you are doing something like this do it in the most professional way possible.
protect the threads of the bottom braket and the head set from the paint, just some paper would make; and it must be strongly remarked that all the products (primer, paint and laquer) MUST be of the same brand, otherwise they cound react chemically and spoil all ther job
@@gcntech I grow up in Bristol and went to Brislington comprehensive School many years ago, I think with the next generation of evil monsters just up the road from your HQ, your security system doesn't stand a chance.
ok lets brake it down , 20 for the sand blasting , 10 for sand papers , 5-10 for primer , 5-10 for 1 color , 5-10 for second color , 5-10 for clear . total 70 euro ,, and 5houers of personal work , and spray paint dose not stick wery well to aluminum ,, frame will look like crap after 6 monts of use , well for 100-200 you can get a brand new frame factory paint is not realy worth it , and if you want to pay some body shop to do all the work for you and paint it professionally you will pay 100-200 ,
Please wear the correct mask. Even more important when you get to the 2k primer, unless you like breathing isocyanates. Even if its 2k ADC its still unpleasant stuff. You should be spending 95% of your time on prep and sanding if you want a good finish. The actual painting is the easy bit :-)
Brand new sheets. What a huge waste! Have you not read the news, there is a global warming emergency? Hang on you mention this every so often as a reason to cycle. At the very least go to a second hand shopping and after use cut up for oily rags.
What design would do if you custom painted a frame?
For me? Any design would do!
Just make sure not to go paintless, Alex!
How to custom paint a bike helmet, unlike the frame there is plastic
Highlighter pink with the marbling effect like the early 90s Trek bikes. I’d fit it out with the vintage logos and everything
Probably do a bit of Dr. Bridgewoods PHD custom paint and call it my own degree.
For me as an old auto painter I'd have a matte black base, with a small thin glossy marbleized effect design line to break it up, and a very large metal flake silver with a candy green or purple over it.
One thing I would’ve done was to mask off the inside of the head tube and bottom bracket. I’d imagine that getting paint in those areas would mess with things.
I feel sorry for the Park Tool work stand in this
Sandblasting ££
Primer ££
Paint ££
Covering your exensive Park Tool stand with some paper FREE
😂
The devil is in the details Ollie.
Hahaha true 🤣
Bonus...your bike stand matches your bike!!!
@@brihaz6107 Who doesn't like a bit of matchy matchy 😂
I’m chomping at the bit to see the next video. I have that exact frame in my shop and have been trying to figure out what I was going to do with it. You and your team never cease to amaze me!!
Thank you for all that you do.
Thanks a lot! Glad you liked it. If you want more great tech videos, you should head to GCN+ to watch films like this about the World's rarest bikes 👉 gcn.eu/wrb
Pro tip, For after primer do a mist coat of black spray paint as a guide coat, then use a sanding block for wet and dry. The black will show any low spots or blobs runs etc. Also, cover your work stand, ollie you animal lol
He's a naughty boy... GCN workshop elves aren't happy 😂
ETOE showed how to do this even how to make the chemical for the crystal effect. Well worth a view also how he holds the frame rather than suspending it where wind can blow the frame against your bike stand damaging the paint you've just laid down. 😉
ETOE is the GOAT.
As soon as I saw this I remembered last months ETOE video, 'Crystal FX Bike Paint With Spray Cans Only'
I have been watching alot of his videos, very solid artist, and entertaining also
@@JKG_Brandon Thanks a lot.
From a 10 year Auto Painter overall good job, it's nothing to be afraid of, and every mistake CAN be fixed.... One tip I'd say is 3-5 light coats are better than 1-2 heavy coats. You just have less runs to deal with and sanding/prepping for top coats are usually alot easier that way.
Great bit of insider knowledge 🙌
I've painted a few frames, and it's always a fun project. I highly recommend for anyone to give it a shot (preferably not with your newest, best, and most expensive frame). Painting a frames, and components, is a wonderful creative outlet.
I don't usually give GCN a thumbs up. But WOW! Confetti Shower!
Thanks! Glad you liked it
If you don't want to mess up a bike stand, use a broom handle supported in a (masked) workbench. Tape a bit of old inner tube around the top to provide some friction, then put the head tube over the end of the broom handle to support the frame. You can then easily rotate the frame to get good coverage, and turn it the other way up when required. The frame doesn't swing around in the wind and there's no risk of the cable catching the paint job.
Exactly!
Hi GCN Tech team. When will you upload the Part 2 of this video?
Love the video. After watching your earlier Cervélo P1 video's I bought one myself and repainted it. This is now the base for my winter bike build project.
Nice! Make sure to head to our app and post some photos of your progress!
beginner tip, you dont want to spray inside the bb or headset cups or even drop outs
how nice of them to give ETOE some credit (not).....
Nice even strokes instead of hammering it is good advice, thanks Ollie!
Nice job Ollie 👍🏼 Maybe worth mentioning that you get different types of Primers and when you’re doing steel or aluminum frames you need to use an Etching Primer first so that you get a good bind to the metal.
I not quite sure but shouldn’t you cover all those holes on the frame before painting?
Seen more than a few old frames around my city that would enjoy an icy DIY paint job like this, maybe it's time for a project!
As a auto painter I have a few tips - to clean the frame use sprayaway glass cleaner of glass cleaners of that style in a aerosol can - you can sand the frame down with 180 then come back with 320 sand paper to get the 180 scratches out then you can scotch it the primer will fill the 320 scratches I’d put 3 coats on when you go to sand the frame you can lightly spray some other color paint on the prime so you’ll know when it’s all evenly sanded you can use 600 sand paper to do it the base will fill a 600 scratch 2-3 coats of base or until frame covered (obviously if you are doing different colors for effects like this you can do as many coats as needed) then 2-3 coats of clear depending on what kind of clear you are using can do as many as 5 id recommend a 2k clear with harder you can buy that in a can also tape off your bottom bracket by making a flower look with tape sticking it in the frame and having some stick out all the way around then fold it up together and put a piece of tape to hold it together also would hang it from the head tube lol
Maybe drape that drop cloth between the stand and the frame.
So, when is part 2 coming out?
This is what i have been waiting for!
For more like this, check out our 'Makers' series on GCN+ 👉 gcn.eu/mep1
Oh boy, Alex is going to be pissed off if Part 2 doesn't show Ollie getting all the overspray off the Park tool work stand!!!!!
When’s part 2 coming out? ☺️
Thanks for making this video, I’ve recently stripped my aluminium Cannonade for sandblasting and didn’t know I’d have to do some further prep!
Good luck with it! We would love to see it when it's done! Maybe pop it on the Bike vault 👉 Gcn.eu/app
Can’t wait to see part 2! Last time I remember Ollie mentioning the ice effect paint job I recall he said it was achieved by using urea on the paint… hopefully the DIY one doesn’t 😂
In the meantime, you should check out our 'Makers' series on GCN+ exploring the craftsmanship that goes into frame-building 👉 gcn.eu/mep1
You should have used the super-nice Madone that Alex had already sanded down to save weight.
What did Calvin at Park Tools say about covering the blue work stand with paint? You should have used a PH-1 (Paint Hanger 1)
Shhhh don't tell him.... it's just deep custom 🤣
I love paintscheme how to’s. I have an older alloy frame that could be perfect for this kind of thing.
Do you reckon you'll ever give it a go?
You are wearing the wrong mask for spraypainting.
Holding his breath would have provided more protection
GCN budget
@@savagepro9060 A proper mask costs £20
enjoyed it
Mask off threads, and bearing surfaces. Use panel wife before EVERY coat of paint. Spraying outside greatly increases the chances of dust and insects getting into the paint, use a tack cloth as well before each coat.
A beautiful Park Tool bike stand was sacrificed in the making of this video.
It's just been made even more beautiful 🙌
@gcntech when is the next episode of this coming along?
When do we get part 2?
where's part 2😭
When’s part 2 ? Need it so I can do the same to my CX bike.
Very cool. Important things to add, mask off any area that take bearings and any screw threads. AND USE A CORRECT RESPIRATOR - NOT A DUST MASK! Please look after your lungs, and VOC's are nasty things.
When are we getting part 2 of this video?
Where is second part?
An Indonesian UA-camr @TukangAmplas home based bike painter made a 10 minutes or less video for this kind of paint job... GCN need 2 parts video??
You should check out our 'Makers' series on GCN+ where we showcase the process of creating custom bike paint jobs! 👉 gcn.eu/mep3
Indonesian UA-camr is fast as fuck boiiiii
When are you uploading the 2nd one of these? It has been a month
Ollie is a handy man.
Handy man, Fast man... is there anything this boy can't do 😂
Ollie's PhD wasn't very helpful here! (jk) ! First of all the mask, you used is for dust ! The fumes, or as more people know it the smell, do harmful stuff to your lungs and this mask does absolutely nothing! Secondly when you get the frame out of the sandblasting you DONT touch it with bare hands ! Because most people don't even gonna degrease it that's why I mention it (DIY project) ! As far as primer goes you can paint outside it will be sanded anyway! Make sure your spray bottle is always vertical and remind yourself that the pressure inside it drops as you paint (not good) that's why pros have an air compressor with an air tank! Also bearing races and bottom bracket should be covered! I don't know anything about the painting method you are using but outside still needs a lot more preparation than our example here! Anyway since it's DIY no worries!
It has nothing to do with one's educational degree.
@@EryPrihananto Reread my comment!
Where is part 2?
... it's like watching paint dry... 😉
🙄😂
This bike was really easy to assemble ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
Will one can be enoigh for the base coats?
Top tip: Wrap your work stand in plastic wrap before using it to hold your painting project.
Great little tip 🙌
Saturday day boys/girls job. Clean the paint off the park tool stand.
No part 2 ?
Thank you Herr Doktor....not my thing !
You can actually media blast a carbon frame without damaging it
Gaaaa! After it's blasted for the love of Pete don't touch it with your hands!
The guy who blasted it had bare hands too. I don't know why this is a problem but maybe he cleaned off whatever harmful thing was on the frame before the handover scene was shot.
@@Xune2000 The oils on your hands will penetrate into the freshly blasted aluminum. This can affect how well paint adheres and can lead to defects in the paint job.
Gloves are cheap. Parcel paper is cheap.
@@wilfdarr OK, thanks for the explanation! The guy that blasted it was handling it barehanded too, shouldn't he have known this?
@@Xune2000 A lot of blasting isn't paint related, a lot of coatings don't mind a little contamination (Rustolium, Krylon, etc are really hard to screw up, but they also are very limited in the quality of the finish), so it's easy for a blaster to get complacent if the customer doesn't specifically mention it. But doing a specialty coating like this, Ya you want to take every precaution because often specialty coatings will run if you so much as look at them funny.
@@wilfdarr I see. Thanks again for explaining, this isn't my area of expertise so it's always nice to learn something new!
Where is part 2 can't locate it?
I NEED CLOSURE!
It's on it's way don't you worry 👀
Didn't Manon do this already?
Olli Schoolboy error Aluminium Oxide paper Oakley Abrasives made Glass Paper incorrectly called sand paper.
You use Etch Primer on Aluminium rather than a standard primer.
Do not spray in temperatures below 10C 50F
Make sure the surface is warm so as any water has evaporated from the metal so as you do not seal in any moisture on the prepared surface. Foreign bodies can contaminate the surface if you are applying paint outside. Not a good thing to do. Plastic film in a shed with an extractor fan would be a way around the problem.
GCN Elves if you are doing something like this do it in the most professional way possible.
Spend hundreds of pounds on spray paint, nothing on correct PPE.
Absolutely idiotic.
what you cant see in the video is the jock strap
Real Pro's sand between every . single . coat . of . paint.
Ok where is part 2?
I cant find part 2
Did I miss part 2?
protect the threads of the bottom braket and the head set from the paint, just some paper would make; and it must be strongly remarked that all the products (primer, paint and laquer) MUST be of the same brand, otherwise they cound react chemically and spoil all ther job
It’s called “Crystal FX”
Or urea + wetting agent ;-)
"How did I get myself into this mess | Part 1" might be a better title
Can't wait for part 2 😬
Y no Part 2 ? :(
Oh it's coming don't you worry! 🙌
thats a n95 mask which offers no protection vs paint fumes, Ya need a P or R rated respirator
Where's part 2, even typing the title in UA-cam doesn't give the result
Oh the poor Park Tool stand 😢
Plastic over the Park stand
Nice way to screw up your bike stand
So Ollie is going to leave that frame outsidegor 24 hours, or rather until someone steals it.
Nobody is getting into the max security GCN HQ 👀
@@gcntech I grow up in Bristol and went to Brislington comprehensive School many years ago, I think with the next generation of evil monsters just up the road from your HQ, your security system doesn't stand a chance.
This dust mask doesn't help you if you use paint. Use a proper halfmask!!!
ok lets brake it down , 20 for the sand blasting , 10 for sand papers , 5-10 for primer , 5-10 for 1 color , 5-10 for second color , 5-10 for clear . total 70 euro ,, and 5houers of personal work , and spray paint dose not stick wery well to aluminum ,, frame will look like crap after 6 monts of use , well for 100-200 you can get a brand new frame factory paint is not realy worth it , and if you want to pay some body shop to do all the work for you and paint it professionally you will pay 100-200 ,
that will be a disaster😁
First
Mad lad
He loves GCN this guy ☝
I cant see one thing this guy got right in this video. Taping? nah. Goober ghetto rigged paint stand? check. Vapor mask? Nah. Temperature? Who cares.
I gave this video a "like" - but I didn't really. :)
Please wear the correct mask. Even more important when you get to the 2k primer, unless you like breathing isocyanates. Even if its 2k ADC its still unpleasant stuff.
You should be spending 95% of your time on prep and sanding if you want a good finish. The actual painting is the easy bit :-)
Brand new sheets. What a huge waste! Have you not read the news, there is a global warming emergency? Hang on you mention this every so often as a reason to cycle. At the very least go to a second hand shopping and after use cut up for oily rags.
Where is part 2?
when is part 2 due?
Where is part 2?