Apparently some of these guys know Graves betrayed the 141 but the only reason they're still loyal to him is because he's the one filling their paychecks
Shepherd: I lost 3 missiles, need to hire shadow company to cover up Graves: *occupied Mexican military base, massacre whole town and going after SAS member
@@farahahmedkarim377 It is not legality but rather the fact that keeping or killing Hassan is more of a liability since they still need to find the missiles to clean up Shepard mess. The missiles was the top priority for Shepard before Hassan.
Here answer my question: PLEASE TELL ME, WILL THE GHOST IN THIS ONE DIE EVENTUALLY, ALSO DID THE 2009 GHOST COME BACK TO LIFE IN THE REMASTERED VERSION BECAUSE THE GAME DEVS KNEW PEOPLE WERE SAD
I'm actually glad that they put this into the story, Throughout our history the US did at times commit some pretty questionable stuff such as war crimes and the Shadow Company might be a reference to a real life group called Blackwater USA which did allegedly terrible things during the Iraq War.
@@Voucher765 i didn't say what Russia is doing isn't bad. I said the most war crimes done is by US themselves. The thing is that western media doesn't report it.
@@aniketnautiyal8697 Probably but there are sure plenty of other countries like for ex Germany that did far worse things than we did, Like for ex the Holocaust.
As if today, they are, if you go look at his wiki page, you can see he was formerly Special Forces (probably green berets), but then again, this game came out recently and it's still fresh so, give it like, 2 months or so until everything is made.
It's funny for a person who is used to the news in his country in the morning being that some random pig has entered a school and has killed 30 children.
@@felixibablan dude what? What in the actual fuck does that have to do with this? You and a game showed people getting killed in your country? I’d rather wake up to a shooting then the cartel cutting my loved ones heads off
At the beginning of the scene, this "civilians" said "nobody can't mess with us, this is land of las almas" these streets are ours" so these people are from the cartel las almas they are not innocent civilians
Yes, and in the subtitle they are literally named "Sicario" (in short, footsoldier/killer for a cartel) The cop is explicitly corrupted and mention the sina nombre too
@@SavageP.9000definitely would not go that far.. they could’ve done better and been more brutal but we live in a very sensitive world now so this is about what I would expect from Infinity Ward.
honestly if a shadow company really does exist in real life thats literally how they'll handle shit, thats how shepherd was in MW2 he was judge, jury, and executioner any man like him in real life with the resources and man power to have a small military like that would definitely act accordingly
Indeed I mean the only reason they get away is because the government doesn't want there reputation ruined. And while it's true that all of these War-Crimes are inhumane and barbaric for I never approve of it, but there is one philosophical meaning of war is this called "there is no such thing as crimes in war."
2009 Shadow Company: "We will give our enemies a fight as they ask for a fight" 2022 Shadow Company: "Oh, so you like cooperating with druggies, Mexican Man? Huh Amigo?
@@ArrowShaky remote controlled? not likely. tanks are operated usually by a crew of 3, driver, gunner and commander. likely got 2 others with him. and if we assume mexico bought the tanks from the US, it must be based on the abrams which is a 3 crew tank.
I don't know what to think. The Shadow Company is executing people linked with El Sin Nombre's cartel including the police. It is like hiring a private military to execute the Yakuza and their allies in Japan. Right or wrong?
I’m Japanese and totally agree but more likely using former JSDF soldier and police counter terrorist unit to “clean up” Chinese mafia. But they will less likely to use guns because of strict restrictions and too populated city to those Sicario the movie staff.
But graves was wrong with information, they think the civies was fans of cartels, but they wasn't, if you look the subtitles the game says what they're civilians.
Those so called civilians are definitely getting what they deserved. Almost all of Las Almas citizens support the cartel which is why I didn't really feel bad seeing them get slaughtered by Shadow Company. Like Ghost said "Choices have consequences"
@asami朝美 Lol this is such a retarded reply. Just pointing out lore facts here. No surprise you just some moron who just rushed through the game or hell didn't even play the game to begin with.
Finally someone said it. I don't really think he meant to betray 141, more like to not get them involved. He only shot at Varqueros 141 cuz they tried to kill him. He didnt prioritize killing them until they came to him. So Varqueros started it.
@lynxYT Yeah but to be fair Shadow Company were pretty much the ones that started it and asked for it when they arrested all of Los Vaqueros and took their base away without permission. And Los Vaqueros were the good guys who were willing to die fighting Las Almas corruption.
@@Tribal_Soldier he did it because he didn't want Varqueros 141 to see it. They would probably try to make him go by 141 ROE instead of shadow company's ROE.
I have a strong feeling Shadow Company, Graves, and Shepard aren’t done man. They’ll be bigger than any enemy later on. [edit] MWlll wasn’t what I expected..
wym graves isn’t done, hes dead, the only real one you’d be right about is Shadow Company, its likely implied due to their participation in the “Warzone lore” that Graves and all the shadow personnel under Shepherd are gonna be declared rogue elements by Shadow Corporate leadership to cover up, and will probably in the future still get contracts from western governments, much to the dismay of Price & co. But what can they do. I’m interested in how this will pan out when they bring in a reboot Makarov for MWIII, and with the introduction of the Konni (100% it will be based off of the real life PMC Wagner Group) in the mission where you play the shadow personnel transporting the missiles, its likely we’ll be seeing more PMC v PMC gameplay
Funfact: Shadow Company is based off the real life Blackwater PMCs who were most infamous for engaging in war crimes and atrocities in the Iraq War and in Afghanistan. This game tones down how brutal and sadistic Shadow Company's real life counterpart really was. Glad to see Soap and Ghost killing them side by side! Hopefully Shadow Company return in the third one where they're still hunting down 141 and committing more war crimes.
I wish we coulda killed graves ourselves general shepherd style instead of the tank fight where we can’t even see the body. Still a very great campaign.
I have a feeling Graves will return. I mean, Alex "died" in MW19 but then was confirmed to be alive in WZ S3. Perhaps they'll bring back Graves in WZ2? Or maybe even in the rumored Campaign DLC.
internationally this would be recognized as american war crimes even though i understand this isn’t known by the U.S Government so they can’t be at fault from what i believe
- Shepherd: sends in PMC instead of state military to gain plausible deniability to not risk a war with Mexico - Also Shepherd: **lends an AC-130 to said PMC**
They don't explicitly show it but it seems like they were just raiding the whole town and killing indiscriminately. It amazes me that americans don't seem to know PMC groups aside from rogue/ex military members are also composed of war criminals, ex convicts and people with shady backgrounds/upbringings who perform good at being violent. They are not cops.
I honestly had no ill will against the guy up until he started shooting at 141. Yeah he's basically mini Shepherd, but has room to expand. To bad he's not an operator in MP currently. What's funny too I'm pretty Roze is the only American operator in MP which I just find odd (excuding the Ranger mil sim skin).
Yeah I like him too. He was a great ally and a pretty good twist villain. He's no General Shepard but his actor did a good job. The only thing I didn't like was that his boss was a pain in the a** and I wish we kill him face to face instead of seeing a tank blow up and that's it.
I could never really feel bad about this mission. It isnt an attack on civilians. It's literally a hive of Las Almas cartel members/affiliates. Graves is technically justified doing this.
None of them are civvies, they're all cartel. Shadows weren't bad they just weren't "good" but tbh neither was price. It was only soap that had a heart. Even gaz fell to price's ways.
@@nicktron1225 Considering that Graves "sort of" mentions him in season 5's intro by saying that Shepherd's been occupied, there could be a slight chance of Shepherd and Makarov joining forces. Small theorycrafting didn't harm anyone yet.
@@carrotplhe said hes been occupied because he doesnt want to mention the missles or anything that went down in mexico. Alex saying "heard you died in a tank in south America" then graves responding with "what else have you heard" is a sign that he didnt want anyone to know about it.
Tbh as a native spanish speaker,it kinda annoys me how graves speak spanish,like mocking with it,without any attempt to do properly because that's the point,but i also like it because i always butcher english (tho im trying to learn) so probably english speakers feel the same way with me lol
Nah. He definitely does it on purpose. I like that the stereotypes go both ways, he mocks spanish and definitely has a sense of superiority over the mexicans. But i think this is the portrayal of the military gringo who's not sharp at anything other than violence. They even refer to mexico as south america in the season 5 cutscene, so, really accurate. A double edged sword i guess.
They did kill some narcos and police. If you hear them speaking, you can hear the narcos badmouthing them before being executed. As for police, they’re seen running or captured.
I like the different interpretations of shadow company in the two MW2s. The original gave the vibe of elite cia black ops types that are deployed to make people “disappear” kind of like a hostile task force 141 where in the reboot they’re mercenaries who are so triggerhappy with their loose rules of engagement they make the situation worse.
I have a feeling it's going to play a big part for Graves on modern warfare 4 cuz I think the woman birthday captured on her that was working with the cartels or that was the leader of the cartels say what you want about the cartels they do care about their people in country and I can see them getting revenge on shuttle company and Graves now if you guys saw the ending of modern warfare 3 I think Shepherd had a back door in case something happened to him and I think that's where the new group called Black cell going to come in it's not just to make your soldier looks good I think it's an actual military group coming soon it's going to hunt task force 141 and shadow company
Honestly this mission felt like lazy writing. It felt like the writers went "hmmm i dont think people are going to like fighting the shadows because they dont seem all that evil. I know! Lets have them massacre a town of suspected cartel members!"
one of the shadow company operatives has the bright and smart idea of trying to negotiate with TF141. too bad you'll end up killing him.
Huh? I never killed 3-1,he was at the part I never killed anyone at,only gone on a massacre in the tunnels far from him.
I felt bad Killing shadows, so I always do a passive playthrough
Apparently some of these guys know Graves betrayed the 141 but the only reason they're still loyal to him is because he's the one filling their paychecks
@@farahahmedkarim377 of course you'd still be loyal. you work for a company after all. morality doesn't exist in the land of corporates.
@@Hinokassaudifan1 as long as you want your pockets filled, who the fuck cares if you're committing war crimes?
Shepherd: I lost 3 missiles, need to hire shadow company to cover up
Graves: *occupied Mexican military base, massacre whole town and going after SAS member
Wtf was sheperd thinking for him to allow shadow do this 😂
As a Wiseman once said, "if you're not with me then you're my enemy."
@@truisticprince Only a Sith deals in absolutes
If he gave Graves orders to massacre Las Almas and kill TF141, why the fuck did he let Hassan go? Legality doesn't matter to him at all
@@farahahmedkarim377 It is not legality but rather the fact that keeping or killing Hassan is more of a liability since they still need to find the missiles to clean up Shepard mess.
The missiles was the top priority for Shepard before Hassan.
Activision: "I'll keep your favourite characters alive in this MW2"
Players: "Cool"
Activision: "Innocent civilians will be the victim instead"
Yeah fuck them civies XD
So ghost didn’t die basically?
@@Allison_Slayz Not yet
Wait but
Here answer my question: PLEASE TELL ME, WILL THE GHOST IN THIS ONE DIE EVENTUALLY, ALSO DID THE 2009 GHOST COME BACK TO LIFE IN THE REMASTERED VERSION BECAUSE THE GAME DEVS KNEW PEOPLE WERE SAD
0:10 the way he says amigo 😂
I'm actually glad that they put this into the story, Throughout our history the US did at times commit some pretty questionable stuff such as war crimes and the Shadow Company might be a reference to a real life group called Blackwater USA which did allegedly terrible things during the Iraq War.
Buddy US has done the most war crimes in the history of the world, you just gotta be an outsider to see that.
@@aniketnautiyal8697 Look at what Russia is doing bud
@@Voucher765 i didn't say what Russia is doing isn't bad. I said the most war crimes done is by US themselves. The thing is that western media doesn't report it.
@@aniketnautiyal8697 Probably but there are sure plenty of other countries like for ex Germany that did far worse things than we did, Like for ex the Holocaust.
Shadow Company = PMC not US government
I like the part when Graves said: "It's shadowin' time"
then he shadowed all over the place, truly captivating
@@taylors2106 Truly one of the war criminals of all time.
@@Jesse11788 Jester 1-1 on approach ready for tasking what’s your position
@@taylors2106 This is Jester 1-1, flight of two F-15s, four HARMs for the section, standby for SEAD, over.
@@Jesse11788 Copy 1-1, weapons free in five seconds
I wish they gave Graves more of a background. Like explain what he did in the military before establishing Shadow Company.
As if today, they are, if you go look at his wiki page, you can see he was formerly Special Forces (probably green berets), but then again, this game came out recently and it's still fresh so, give it like, 2 months or so until everything is made.
They'll probably do so in MwIII.
He served as a green beret
@@deandanielson8950
Green Beret? He's got a Marine Raider skull patch on his tan vest.
If yall look at his operator bio in MP, he was force recon.
I just can't help but enjoy hearing them talking Spanglish as they're killing everyone it has me dying. 🤣
Lmao there Mexican who cares if they die
@@Parismonroyaumelmao
It's so broken that it's funny
It's funny for a person who is used to the news in his country in the morning being that some random pig has entered a school and has killed 30 children.
@@felixibablan dude what? What in the actual fuck does that have to do with this? You and a game showed people getting killed in your country? I’d rather wake up to a shooting then the cartel cutting my loved ones heads off
God damnit why can't shadow company behave themselves for once
Well, in all fairness, they're a private company. They don't have to operate by international jurisdiction.
Shit game bro
@@Boywonder543 You havent played it
@@Hinokassaudifan1 But morals tho...
@@BackBeater morals are on you.
Those are not war crimes
Those are special war crimes
I loved how we got to see more of Shadow Company. I do wish though the campaign had a morality system of either aligning with Shadow Company or 141.
Can’t really since you only play as actual 141 members besides that one mission as rodolfo and one as that one shadow company dude
Oohh that would be cool
that'd be a Treyarch move.
@@cdntrooper3078 also two missions as Shadow gunship weapon operator
I would've 100% done shadow company
At the beginning of the scene, this "civilians" said "nobody can't mess with us, this is land of las almas" these streets are ours" so these people are from the cartel las almas they are not innocent civilians
Yes, and in the subtitle they are literally named "Sicario" (in short, footsoldier/killer for a cartel)
The cop is explicitly corrupted and mention the sina nombre too
What about all dead civilians that are just laying about
@@Anarcho_Insurrection
Dead civvies aren’t civvies if they are killed. That’s what locals get for supporting terrorists
That is still summary execution, this is a war crime.
@@Anarcho_InsurrectionPh those for sure are civs. But because of the cartel’s generosity, SC saw them as potential threats.
This mission was fucked. They said there would not be a no russian mission but they had this mission and the no russian cutscene
True. I'm not gonna lie, Infinity Ward has balls of steel.
@@SavageP.9000definitely would not go that far.. they could’ve done better and been more brutal but we live in a very sensitive world now so this is about what I would expect from Infinity Ward.
This could actually work in dealing with cartels
honestly if a shadow company really does exist in real life thats literally how they'll handle shit, thats how shepherd was in MW2 he was judge, jury, and executioner any man like him in real life with the resources and man power to have a small military like that would definitely act accordingly
Black Water is a real life Shadow Company.
It did actually, I commented about it
Indeed I mean the only reason they get away is because the government doesn't want there reputation ruined. And while it's true that all of these War-Crimes are inhumane and barbaric for I never approve of it, but there is one philosophical meaning of war is this called "there is no such thing as crimes in war."
Really? Is that Red Dead Redemption @@kytim89
@@brunsonator3423he means blackwater pmc, it was a real life company which inspired shadow company and also merryweather, murkywater
i still cant believe Graves and shadow co became allies again in mw3
I think it won't last long.
Story went to shit once WZ began
Graves literally giving me Duterte vibes with the way Grave’s go around and shoot civilians.
2009 Shadow Company:
"We will give our enemies a fight as they ask for a fight"
2022 Shadow Company:
"Oh, so you like cooperating with druggies, Mexican Man? Huh Amigo?
A downgrade
Nahhh they’re way scarier here than in 2009
@@venturatheace1 exactly, especially since you know them in this one
@@Voucher765 nah it’s better than 2009
@@ichangedmynamebecauseitoff4950 I agree actually
Las Almas Guards and Cartel Members were surrounded by Phillip Graves and Shadow Company during its massacre in Las Almas territory
Am I the only one think that Graves still alives? I don't think he died at the end
a tank exploding? while also getting the turret blown up? not even plot armored americans can survive that.
@@Hinokassaudifan1 what if he doesn't even in the tank
@@ArrowShaky remote controlled? not likely. tanks are operated usually by a crew of 3, driver, gunner and commander. likely got 2 others with him. and if we assume mexico bought the tanks from the US, it must be based on the abrams which is a 3 crew tank.
@@Hinokassaudifan1 or he just radio from different place and just dif soldier controls the tank but who knows
Maybe it should be a ratio I mean nobody can't survive tank destroy.
I don't know what to think. The Shadow Company is executing people linked with El Sin Nombre's cartel including the police. It is like hiring a private military to execute the Yakuza and their allies in Japan. Right or wrong?
Morally wrong, yet effective in results
I’m Japanese and totally agree but more likely using former JSDF soldier and police counter terrorist unit to “clean up” Chinese mafia. But they will less likely to use guns because of strict restrictions and too populated city to those Sicario the movie staff.
But graves was wrong with information, they think the civies was fans of cartels, but they wasn't, if you look the subtitles the game says what they're civilians.
You just described Ashika Island
@@Objective-Neutral3725Do you hear what the civilians even say? They openly support and help the cartel
its pretty rad that the game is in part funded by the military, but the devs had the balls to put something like this in the game.
Those so called civilians are definitely getting what they deserved. Almost all of Las Almas citizens support the cartel which is why I didn't really feel bad seeing them get slaughtered by Shadow Company. Like Ghost said "Choices have consequences"
Lmfao this is such a stupid comment
@asami朝美 Lol this is such a retarded reply.
Just pointing out lore facts here.
No surprise you just some moron who just rushed through the game or hell didn't even play the game to begin with.
Finally someone said it. I don't really think he meant to betray 141, more like to not get them involved. He only shot at Varqueros 141 cuz they tried to kill him. He didnt prioritize killing them until they came to him. So Varqueros started it.
@lynxYT Yeah but to be fair Shadow Company were pretty much the ones that started it and asked for it when they arrested all of Los Vaqueros and took their base away without permission. And Los Vaqueros were the good guys who were willing to die fighting Las Almas corruption.
@@Tribal_Soldier he did it because he didn't want Varqueros 141 to see it. They would probably try to make him go by 141 ROE instead of shadow company's ROE.
I have a strong feeling Shadow Company, Graves, and Shepard aren’t done man. They’ll be bigger than any enemy later on.
[edit] MWlll wasn’t what I expected..
I hope we gonna see more PMC vs PMC in MW3 . Shadow company vs konni.
wym graves isn’t done, hes dead, the only real one you’d be right about is Shadow Company, its likely implied due to their participation in the “Warzone lore” that Graves and all the shadow personnel under Shepherd are gonna be declared rogue elements by Shadow Corporate leadership to cover up, and will probably in the future still get contracts from western governments, much to the dismay of Price & co. But what can they do. I’m interested in how this will pan out when they bring in a reboot Makarov for MWIII, and with the introduction of the Konni (100% it will be based off of the real life PMC Wagner Group) in the mission where you play the shadow personnel transporting the missiles, its likely we’ll be seeing more PMC v PMC gameplay
@@captaf1 I don’t think he’s dead. It’s such a cheap death.
I hope Las Almas Cartel comes back, I loved neutralizing members of the cartel
@@captaf1graves isnt dead
Amazing how Shadow Company wiped out the cartel faster than the DEA did in Breaking Bad
BRAVO VINCE!
Funfact: Shadow Company is based off the real life Blackwater PMCs who were most infamous for engaging in war crimes and atrocities in the Iraq War and in Afghanistan. This game tones down how brutal and sadistic Shadow Company's real life counterpart really was. Glad to see Soap and Ghost killing them side by side! Hopefully Shadow Company return in the third one where they're still hunting down 141 and committing more war crimes.
I wish we coulda killed graves ourselves general shepherd style instead of the tank fight where we can’t even see the body. Still a very great campaign.
I have a feeling Graves will return. I mean, Alex "died" in MW19 but then was confirmed to be alive in WZ S3. Perhaps they'll bring back Graves in WZ2? Or maybe even in the rumored Campaign DLC.
you can't see the body cuz it's in ashes within a flaming tank
@@hongkong8907graves did return this time. He is not on the tank
WTF I love Graves and Shadow Company now. They're doing great job on eradicating police corruption!
Same here
Same here x2
I mean literally but yeah
Innocent is a strong word.
Props to IW for making Shadow Company and Shepherd evil again for no reason. No really. Can't tell you how much I didn't see that coming
I mean, he did have a reason…
@@pathiguess and Shepherd will presumably work with Makarov if I predicted it.
MW1 2019 - Russian’s war crimes
MW2 2022 - Shadow’s war crimes
Shadow is cooler because it gives humanity to them honestly.
American War Crimes
Remember Shadow Company is a American Company so its American war crimes
internationally this would be recognized as american war crimes even though i understand this isn’t known by the U.S Government so they can’t be at fault from what i believe
MW3 - Makarov's War Crimes
Graves out there trying to copy the Brazilian military police, lmao
Original Shadow Company was more a US black unit than a PMC, I miss that
0:42 what did they do to the woman and kid?
- Shepherd: sends in PMC instead of state military to gain plausible deniability to not risk a war with Mexico
- Also Shepherd: **lends an AC-130 to said PMC**
This is what we do when I'm running my PMC.
These civilians were supporting the cartel, they deserved it.
Damn straight
🤨
😂 now imagine if the roles were reversed
@@Tribal_Soldier based
They don't explicitly show it but it seems like they were just raiding the whole town and killing indiscriminately. It amazes me that americans don't seem to know PMC groups aside from rogue/ex military members are also composed of war criminals, ex convicts and people with shady backgrounds/upbringings who perform good at being violent.
They are not cops.
I hope they give us lerch, rose and velikan appearance like a task force to rival 141
Roze is out of Shadow Company.
‘Innocent Civilian’, i doubt so.
Why
Its so funny to me that every time Graves speaks spanish because of his accent he legit just sounds racist
That's because he is being racist.
@@SavageP.9000 He's not
Judging by the holsters I'm pretty sure those ain't civies.
I actually liked graves tbh….anyone else?
He was able to make me hate him that I realized how well written his lines are, and what a great job the Warren Kole's (Graves VA) performance was!
I honestly had no ill will against the guy up until he started shooting at 141. Yeah he's basically mini Shepherd, but has room to expand. To bad he's not an operator in MP currently. What's funny too I'm pretty Roze is the only American operator in MP which I just find odd (excuding the Ranger mil sim skin).
Yeah I like him too. He was a great ally and a pretty good twist villain. He's no General Shepard but his actor did a good job. The only thing I didn't like was that his boss was a pain in the a** and I wish we kill him face to face instead of seeing a tank blow up and that's it.
@@Raiders1917 You forgot Hutch
warcrimes made me like graves
This is fantastic footage!!! Thank you for this ❤️❤️❤️
0:24... Believe or not, that's what I saw when I was 10 in Iraq war
I'm sorry to hear that.
@@SavageP.9000
So here I see that Hassan is the good guy and the special forces are the bad guys
@@الصمتالمطلق ?What about 141
@@SavageP.9000
...I'm talking about these 141
@@الصمتالمطلق .oh that's the shadow company
I think graves is not doing wrong, he's just getting rid of corrupted cops
He killed lots of civilians too, just look at the houses, theres civilians bodies everywhere, also, he was being racist with all the Spanglish
Shadow Company in MW2: Hostiles have penetrated deep into the complex! Terminate with extreme prejudice!
Shadow Company in MWII: dOnDe EsTa El IrAnI?!
Grave really turn to homelander when he was yelling
No no no el sin nombre its no bueno right now amigo 🤣
HELP LMAO "shut the fuck up C:" at 1:07
2:08 Imagine a Military Coup in the entire Mexican Country
I could never really feel bad about this mission. It isnt an attack on civilians. It's literally a hive of Las Almas cartel members/affiliates. Graves is technically justified doing this.
Well thank God shadow company exist otherwise that could have gone much worst
i wanna know if you get a gun, kill graves then somehow complete the mission would the storyline change? lol
Graves has plot armor no kill
Headshot?
@@Ashwin_1198 nothing will work, he is invincible like the kids in skyrim
nah those are cartel members
0:25 okay the blood splatter is a bit over the top
So... How do I join shadow company?
1:06
None of them are civvies, they're all cartel. Shadows weren't bad they just weren't "good" but tbh neither was price. It was only soap that had a heart. Even gaz fell to price's ways.
Showdow Company is awesome in my opinion but oh Lord graves Spanish is funny but cringe at the same time but I can't wait till they get added to MP
The reason it's cringe is because it's just him being racist.
@@SavageP.9000he’s not racist
I am a bit sensitive whenever I see mass murder. So this mission scarred me to say the least 💀
The PMC have night vision yet unable to find soap near them
Graves spanish is cringe and funny
Graves was still sort of a good guy
Most likely, but let's not forget that it's mostly because of Shepherd.
@@carrotpldo you think Shepherd was working with Makarov or something
@@nicktron1225 Considering that Graves "sort of" mentions him in season 5's intro by saying that Shepherd's been occupied, there could be a slight chance of Shepherd and Makarov joining forces. Small theorycrafting didn't harm anyone yet.
@@carrotplhe said hes been occupied because he doesnt want to mention the missles or anything that went down in mexico. Alex saying "heard you died in a tank in south America" then graves responding with "what else have you heard" is a sign that he didnt want anyone to know about it.
Tbh as a native spanish speaker,it kinda annoys me how graves speak spanish,like mocking with it,without any attempt to do properly because that's the point,but i also like it because i always butcher english (tho im trying to learn) so probably english speakers feel the same way with me lol
Nah. He definitely does it on purpose. I like that the stereotypes go both ways, he mocks spanish and definitely has a sense of superiority over the mexicans. But i think this is the portrayal of the military gringo who's not sharp at anything other than violence. They even refer to mexico as south america in the season 5 cutscene, so, really accurate.
A double edged sword i guess.
I love Philip Graves' doing
Y’all be narcos fr, but Shadow Company is a hero in this mission. Wipe em Hablos Narcos
I thought my heart was cold graves may have beat me.
I was wondering Where's their weapons?
probably disarm them before or after being killed. The police don't have their guns in their holsters when they're killed so probably the former.
We need more military like these in Mexico killing corrupted 😢😢
😂😂👍more like soldiers going on a cold-blooded murder spree
@@thebigman4523 they Can on the carteles and governments of Mexico 😐😐 they won’t even last a minute against Russians pmc’s
@@FretzSZNFN true but still.
A bloodbath at its finest
They did kill some narcos and police. If you hear them speaking, you can hear the narcos badmouthing them before being executed. As for police, they’re seen running or captured.
Cartels and dirty cops aren’t “civilians”. I’d LOVE to do this mission in real life but on Graves side.
“Cops helping cartels, let’s show him how we handle corruption, yeah?”
“Happy to, sir.”
Facts 😂 this man a true American, idgaf.
Don’t listen to this false information, they are Cartel!
MW 2019- Barkov War Crimes
MWII 2022- Shepherd War Crimes
I like the different interpretations of shadow company in the two MW2s. The original gave the vibe of elite cia black ops types that are deployed to make people “disappear” kind of like a hostile task force 141 where in the reboot they’re mercenaries who are so triggerhappy with their loose rules of engagement they make the situation worse.
Guy just casually puts spoilers in the title and thumbnail.
Remember guys if you're on a winner side war crimes don't count.
Why didn't Mexican Cops fight the shadows company because in real life hell they will bring there miltary wing to fight them
God, this is messed up.
Cartel members
I have a feeling it's going to play a big part for Graves on modern warfare 4 cuz I think the woman birthday captured on her that was working with the cartels or that was the leader of the cartels say what you want about the cartels they do care about their people in country and I can see them getting revenge on shuttle company and Graves now if you guys saw the ending of modern warfare 3 I think Shepherd had a back door in case something happened to him and I think that's where the new group called Black cell going to come in it's not just to make your soldier looks good I think it's an actual military group coming soon it's going to hunt task force 141 and shadow company
Honestly this mission felt like lazy writing. It felt like the writers went "hmmm i dont think people are going to like fighting the shadows because they dont seem all that evil. I know! Lets have them massacre a town of suspected cartel members!"
Plot twists
Graves never killed anybody and he did all that as a spy against shadow company and shepherd
And he was never in that tank
Live Footage of the search for Warren Kole.
I say it's necessary flush them all out
who dosent love graves
So these were dirty cops?
If so I dont see the issue. LOL
Those people are working for or affiliated with the cartel.
Mendez?
It Even Worst Bro Is Reference Of the Khmer Rouge Genocide
Geneva Suggestion daddy and the boyz
Killing those innocent people
No mas habla
They're not all innocent.
@@kade-qt1zu don't you think i know that?
I got a better one Barkov's Forces vs Shadow Company war crimes competition video count.
Y is you fov so low
They tried WAY too hard to make you hate Shadow Company in this level, it’s actually cringe.
Shadow Company #1 though
Usa do this irl
Cartel member not civilians.
Shadow company best ❤❤❤❤
Graves did what needed to be done. This is the only way you defeat the cartels.
Heh. There's 141 comments. Nice!
Am I the only one who thinks graves isn’t a bad guy?
I like him