As a native Torontonian, I got to admit I was pleasantly surprised to see this video on the TTC Subway. Other than Lines 5 and 6 being stated as the "Sheppard" when it should say "Eglinton" and "Finch West" respectively at 3:30, this is an overall awesome video! I honestly never thought I would see the subway system of my hometown featured on this channel. :)
I Hope they include a Line 7 (Sheppard East *Supplementary LRT Line) *In the event Line 4 ran into certain incidents to the point the subway service is suspended this LRT Line above it will take over the service No More Buses
Even though the Sheppard line is underutilized, I am very surprised that the Sheppard East line will not connect with the Sheppard West station. This would be an ideal relief line during other line shutdowns.
I have the same question why they don't connect that part, people are not using it because there;s no connection, once there is east-west Sheppard that line will be so busy as people are trying to avoid using 2 different 84 east and 84 west buses
Ikr, I live in the North York area and it bothers me how I have to transfer from Sheppard West to Sheppard-Yonge by using a bus and then transferring again by the subway to reach Don Mills, the TTC would always say that it's because of low ridership but it's not really the case since a lot of college/university students could utilize the extension and eliminate the east-west transfer at Yonge Street just like in Eglinton. And theoritically it would cost less than the now under construction Scarborough Subway Extension. But I guess it's Toronto what do you expect lmao
@@fredbryce8263 I always thought eventually they would connect them, since I see the frequency of 84 Sheppard buses surpasses other routes every time I'm waiting for buses at Sheppard West (former Downsview station)
I am SO SO SO very sure, people living mid way Eglington north shall they wanted to go east or west they would ditch going south to use line 2, instead they would use the connected Sheppard line if that line exist .....that is a major traffic directed north helping to ease line 2 for people work, live and tourists in the downtown area ......Once the Eglington goes into operation and line 2 is less congested then we will understand the importance of east-west Sheppard since the city is expanded further north, Vaughan is growing this line will prove to be very critical in helping to distribute the traffics in line 1 and 2
The original plans in the 1960s was for two east-west lines. One on Bloor/Danforth and the second on Queen Street in Downtown. Original segment of BD line was built but then the Queen line was delayed. Instead the BD line was extended deeper into the suburbs because that got the politicians new votes. The Queen line was planned and delayed multiple times for several decades. Now the plan is called the Ontario Line project. Construction is planned this decade and its expected to open by 2030.
@@strawberry7799a so in other words, it can still be delayed for several decades. Let’s face it the first hole has just been dug 8 years to build 15 km is pretty pathetic. May as well include a monorail someone wants to build.
Eglinton won't suffice as an east west line, so we'll still only really have one, because they insist on putting in these LRTs that suck, we should have sheppard line from east to west in place of that finch LRT nonsense.
One small correction: the Ontario line isn't going to be a light metro, the trains will be slightly smaller than the main lines but they are still normal subway trains, 5 cars long and 3m wide.
A light metro is a metro system with smaller trains. Look at the rt. Half of Line 5 will be a light metro because they use a smaller vehicle than the main cars
Gotta love that their proposed plan leaves the dumbest gap in transit between the two forks of line 2, when that would be another way to massively reduce stress on the transit system.
Subways are stupid. During construction, co2 emissions are too high, they cost 5 times as much as trams per mile, and they’re just an excuse to keep running cars on the surface, instead of using trams to take away car lanes.
@@ncard00that’s just North American cost evaluations, it’s always going to be more expensive than Europe or Asia. You can build more trams to serve more people in many areas in Subway but people usually don’t travel on trams that long and is more of a local service than a crosstown subway that feeds to. That’s why Don Mills LRT is replaced by the Ontario Line and future extensions. Trams are not sufficient to handle this much people in Toronto, line 5 Eglinton being a downgraded LRT from a subway cancelled decades ago still has the original segments planned built as subways. Many people presume that it will be overcrowded when it opens and many choke points when it starts to run in mix traffic. Let alone how much would it even be any faster than some alternative or comparable trips. It doesn’t help either that these LRT’s are replacing the busiest bus corridors, but also have a bunch of development on the same one, like Eglinton.
@@ncard00 in Toronto, the streetcars (trams) tracks are shared with cars, making them really slow. subways also have alot more capacity and speed than streetcars
@@ncard00 Trams are significantly slower whilst costing too much to justify their price tag (at least in NA). Trams should never be considered as a replacement for Subways, they're more or less just glorified busses in the context of a transit network.
Nice job!! Just wanted to point out that the Scarborough RT (Line 3) actually closes next year in 2023!! There will be a 7 year gap until the subway extension opens, so service will be replaced by busses. They are currently planning to repurpose the SRT right of way to create a bus transit way tho!!
I think it's because the shuttle buses that will be used for next year will still be branded as Line 3 until the subway extension and the Ontario Line (future Line 3) opens but I might be wrong
@@nedhappily they actually have proposed plans for many decades into the future, you need to download the PDFs to check it out, the Langley connection was delayed due to covid
@@rowanguy9528 Yea they always plan stuff but no money to build. Toronto and Montreal took most of the federal budget to build stuff. The Langley extension delayed not only because of COVID but also waiting for money. (Just saw the news last month) COVID was the best excuse they can mention. Pandemic also hit Ontario and Quebec hard but that didn't stop projects in Toronto and Montreal. I don't think the construction will happen by 2025. Very typical BC thing
@@nedhappily The GVRD currently has a longer pure RT system than the entire GTA, with just over 1/3 the population. That lead won't be tied by the Ontario Line either. The GTA's RT system is truly pathetic, although there is potential to significantly upgrade the streetcar system to significantly speed it up. If only Toronto would do it.
This was soo cool to see! I used to work up by hi tech and saw them surveying the area and they said it was for the new subway! THAT would have made getting from Wilson subway to Richmond Hill SOOOOO much easier and faster!
I used to study at Humber College and live in accommodation there. A subway line from there would be so dang helpful... Took like 2 hours to get to downtown one way...
Its not going to be much faster. What's being built is basically like a streetcar line similar to the Spadina Streetcar downtown: It might save around 5 minutes to get to Finch West Station, but overall it won't be much of an improvement.
@@Absolute_Zero7 I would say it will be faster than the Spadina Streetcar as stop spacing will be much farther apart, but not as fast as the subway. Speeds comparable to the current Harbourfront Streetcar, which doesn't have to wait at many lights given it's placement next to the water.
@@Skyfoogle I agree, they absolutely should have done more for priority signalling on both Eglinton and Finch, but my point stands it will be faster than the Spadina Streetcar.
I just passed by there and saw the new station situated at the intersection of Highway 22, facing the hospital. Now they have the bus terminal right infront of the Guelph University, students get off cross the street and enter the college .....back in 2010 I took the Finch bus and had to walk from the bus stop to the college which takes like 7-10mins ....and when you're late durring exam days that 10mins was really something, not to mention winter snowy and icy weather .
One correction: Sheppard-Yonge station wasn’t always known as “Sheppard-Yonge” before the Sheppard Subway Line was opened in 2002. The station was known as Sheppard Station. It was renamed in part of the station having a direct, at foot connection to line 4.
As a Native Torontonian I am very happy to see this video. Metrolinx the government agency overseeing the construction of Eglinton Crosstown/Eglinton/Line 5 is Aiming for an Opening Date of 9 OCTOBER 2022
@@AutoGamerZ_ Indeed But it is GOOD that they are trying to start service before 2023 Metrolinx may open Crosstown and By-pass Eglinton Station for a short time due the mess with the state of utilities underneath Eglinton and above the Station Box for Line 5
From what I have read October is simply the date when construction will finish. Testing and training for TTC crews will then begin. Revenue service is likely to be seen in early 2023.
Hey Fellow 416er over here -- I always wondered why they never wanted to do some kind of partial operability here like what they do in Singapore..... They open their lines in phases.
Toronto has really grown since I moved away in 1988. I wish they'd build a decent RT line here in London but all we are getting is a lousy bus lane in a decade from now.
Finch West should be expanded to Finch East, and Sheppard should definitely be extended to McCowan to the east and Shep. W to the west. Also, dear fellow Torontonians, do not underestimate how much relief the Ontario Line is going to provide once it opens!!! The route is genius and I wish the next 10 years would fly lol...
Nice video! I believe Line 4 Extending to connect with Line 2 Extension should happen because the existing Line 4 we got is so mediocre. If Line 4 extends to McCowan it will be more useful due to its connection/interchange with Line 2 & Line 4 would also fulfill its original proposal of ending up in Scarborough. I feel like some of the other Lines can be extended as well possibly Ontario Line be extended North to Don Mills Station to connect with Line 4 & I think it'd be nice for Line 6 to extend South to Woodbine Ctr, Pearson Airport & I think it'd be nice if Line 6 could terminate at Kipling Station taking a route similar to the proposed Etobicoke RT & finally make good use of the abandoned trackbed at Kipling Station
It is part of the official plan for the line, the problem is the line would've connected to the new Transit Hub (Union Station West) that the GTAA (Greater Toronto Airport Authority) was planning. Problem is COVID completely screwed up the GTAA's finances, and now those plans for a Transit Hub are up in limbo. For what its worth its not strictly necessary. There is already a train service to the Airport (UP Express), which will have a transfer to Line 5 at Mount Dennis Station (the initial western terminus of Line 5).
The Scarborough RT was new when I was a kid, and ever since then I had a feeling it would be scrapped eventually. It's so janky and kinda useless as a separate train system.
you also gotta remember that Scarborough was somehow capital rich enough to pull this off pre amalgamation. they took it into their hands to serve their community. post amalgamation...well ...City of Toronto has how many billions of infrastructure upkeep they are behind on? It does make you wonder what the outer boroughs couldve done without amalgamation....another what if
@@AreYouEddie Amalgamation had little impact on transit planning. The TTC was always run by Metro Toronto, which was comprised of the various municipalities that make up modern Toronto. Scarborough got Line 3 for the same reason why North York got the Yonge North and Spadina Subways, and why a Queen Subway was never built. Its because suburban voices made up a large portion of Metro Toronto leadership, frankly no different from the current state of affairs post-amalgamation.
From what I know Line 6 is basically similar to the original Line 4 design. Line 4 was meant to go west of Yonge st along Shepherds avenue and farther east through Scarborough along Shepherds avenue. That plan, as well as two other subway projects, were canceled controversially during construction. What is left of line 4 was all that survived.
I assume you mean Line 4 and Line 6. Issue is that Line 4 uses subway trains while Line 6 is actually a tram. The vehicles are not compatible and the stations have different platform heights.
I live in Toronto specifically in the North York district and I believe that every single person here wants an improvement for Line 4, as of now it's the only Line that doesn't have any active plans or extensions since opening, Line 1 has an extension on the Yonge part, Line 2 has an extension to Sheppard East , and then Line 5 to Renforth, but they chose to literally stay silent on Line 4 (wtf). Line 4 was literally the white elephant of the system besides Line 3, and it would be a shame if they would just leave it like that and not extend it to Sheppard West and Sheppard East.
for line 4 to be successful it needs to somehow close the loop on both sides. there once was a plan for it to go to the zoo and then a LRT plan for that during the miller days. now it's just inconvenient to take especially since the TTC doesn't have a distance based fare system.... if they did, people could hop on and off it ...
Until 2002, as you nearly forget, there were the 60x series routes for subways. - 601 BLOOR-DANFORTH - 602 YONGE-UNIVERSITY-SPADINA - 603 SCARBOROUGH RT - 604 HARBOURFRONT LRT (adopted the 510 number from 1996). The 1-4 numbering became available for internal use in 2002 and formally introduced to the public in late 2013.
Wish Ontario line extended to lakeshore/mimico area somehow. There are a lot of residential developments there. The traffic in that area is pretty horrendous as well. Adding more transit there would make an often traffic induced 1 hour trip only 15 minutes.
@@tusanthaya1970 Poor planning and cuts in the 1990s. There was a subway line under construction which the Conservative government at the time cancelled and filled in the hole that was already dug...
@@stephen9609 You forgot to mention the subway crash of 1995. The government felt that the TTC couldn't handle the system properly and further broke down it's budget and power until the safety measures were properly put into place.
Isn't there a proposal to also extend the new Eglinton LRT from Kennedy Subway station further along Eglinton then across Kingston Road to Morningside Ave eventually coming to an end at U of T Scarborough Campus?
Our subway line really hasn’t changed much in 50 years. Here we are almost 2025 and the Eglington line isn’t finished. Construction going on for about 20 years now. None of this future metrolinx will be completed by 2040 let alone 2030.
Personal opinion, I think Line 1 should split in twain at Union. I’m not really a huge fan of a U shaped metro line, especially one this close to each other downtown. (Sorry RM Transit lol)
Splitting the line will help the operator run the trains more efficiently, but for passengers the U shape is quite helpful! The parallel stations in downtown are walking distances from each other and also connected by streetcars, but many passengers still chose to go around the "U" via Union when travelling between downtown and the northern part of the line especially during cold snowy winters.
@@MetroLiner True, but those parallel stations in downtown are only a couple blocks away from each other, some even interconnected underground, getting a U shaped thru service doesn’t make it much better when that is considered
@@MaxCheng95 The U is necessary to connect the lines to Wilson Yard. Otherwise the eastern half (including sheppard line) would have to be serviced only @ Davisville yard which is smaller than Wilson. For logistical reasons the city should have finished connecting sheppard east station towards sheppard west station (use to be downsview) so that trains on sheppard line and eastern section could easily connect to wilson yard.
@@quoclongly4365 Splitting the line doesn’t mean splitting the infrastructures as well. It’s actually pretty common for subways to share rail yards between different lines and I was referring to splitting service blocks, not the infrastructures
@@MaxCheng95 can't say I'm sure what the point of that would be. for people close to or east of yonge who want to get on the university line, it would just add an unnecessary transfer at union. and nobody likes transfers, were spending $5.5 billion just to eliminate a transfer at kennedy. it would maybe give the TTC more frequency control between the two segments of the line, but I feel the benefits would be negligible as they're both very busy.
Maybe someone can critique my suggestion on why they shouldn't make a line from existing line 1 to go eat/west along Steeles? What a great hub that would have been to connect the city of Toronto with the 905ers. I know, $$, but density wise it just makes sense IMO.
I lived in Scarborough from 1975 - 2001 and I would have killed to have that Sheppard line from Sheppard East to the Finch line. Would have saved me so much of my life that was wasted taking busses for hours every day.
This looks very simple. I can't say that it's bad but maybe there are some options to differ the routes of the lines, so there are more connections. But there will be a logic behind these plans, so I don't complain about it
I'm in my 60's and I grew up in Willowdale. I recall the first expansions of the Yonge St. line first to York Mills then to Finch. I thought that in the next 10 years, it was going to hit Newmarket. Then we got Criminal Lastman to screw everything up including his Sheppard Stump. In 70 years, we now have about 76 km of subway with one of the highest fares in the world. Shanghai has about 8 times as much, faster service, and fares as high as $2 for a long ride, $0.50 for a short trip. Rome's subway is around the same length. But a monthly pass is around $50. The TTC, once the envy of the world, now a public, mismanaged joke
You pretty much hit the point. All these people who try to push people to go take a transit instead of driving should read it. It really explains why people are still insist of driving instead of taking the transit even with gas price at all time high right now. Transit system in GTA is expensive, slow and unreliable. The subway system is getting partially shut down almost every week now. A good example is it only takes me like 20-25 mins to drive to work, and it'll take hour 45 mins to 2 hours + with transit. It is really a no brainer to choose which way to travel.
@@Guncannon If your city actually managed to build a decent system over the core to various suburbs in all that time they had, it would have actually been good for a lot of people, with good prices.
why tf would it go to Newmarket when we already have the Barrie GO line? it's exactly this kind of thinking that led to too much underground heavy rail in the suburbs leading to inadequate capacity where it's actually needed (downtown relief line). and what tf does Mel Lastman have to do with anything? His original plan was a subway from Downsview to McCowan/STC. it was the 90s recession and Rae's cuts that created the line 4 stump.
@@maxjohnson8659 I guess you have difficulties with simple math. In the 70s, I was a young teenager. How TF would I know about all this at that time? It just appeared that the subway was forever going north. In a short time, it went from Eglington to Finch. And just because there is a GO line, that doesn't eliminate the need for a subway line. Lastman demanded control over the TTC, and as such, the provincial gov't said fine, you want it your way, then you pay. So, to answer your ignorant comment, when Mel realized his funds ran short, he petitioned developers to kick back some coin if he increased density. It wasn't Bob Rea that made the Sheppard Stump, it was the guy who went to jail; Mel Lastman. Are you one of Lastman's illegitimate children?
Perfect! This video shows how advanced the Canadian public transit is. Just look at the speed! The scale! The quality! The agility! Just look at how well they managed to update and scale up the infrastructures with the population increase! These are all the marvels of importing temporary Tim Hortons workers to this country.
sort of yes, but you must relisie the trains come every 3-10 mintues depending on time of say, 10 being night. aswell the bus system is fantastic and its no big deal having to transfer.
@@shawnpitman876 you are correct my guy, i have only ever really lived in the downtown areas but i have been to the suburbs and oh god its annoying there
@@Humulator Then I'd suggest shutting up about the transit system, because they've made sure you core dwelling hipsters have been taken care of for literally longer than you've been alive, but the city exists outside of that area, and a good MAJORITY of the ridership of the TTC resides outside of the core.
I remember learning about the 3 way system that existed in 1966 until it was scrapped....now my question is - what would happen had the closed down 3rd line remained (Bloor-University-Yonge) open, would new stations appear out of it, would Wilson Station even exist, or Finch, or Kipling ?? - Only in an alternate reality, Lower Bay is still alive and running.....
Thanks for the video. Hope, we will see Montreal Subway - probably, the only system in the world, where the whole line (opened for EXPO67) was scrapped
A minor error, not sure if this has been pointed out before (maybe by me...) but "Sheppard-Yonge" station wasn't called that until the Sheppard line opened in 2002. It was called "Sheppard" station before then.
It would have been nice for the Sheppard 4 line was extended to the other half of the #1 yellow line where the #6 begins. Although extending it east is a somewhat good compromise. Repurposing the 3 line to serve a new corridor is a good idea. As it was never really meant to be a branch line. All in All, it looks like traveling by rail would be a whole lot easier by 2035. I'm also aware that Toronto has Light Rail, which if it should expand, would put Toronto on the map as a world class city.
Yikes, all the branches feed the Yonge line as if it were the 'trunk'. That's a lot of pressure on one single line to central downtown. It'd be great if they could swing the west end of the Ontario line back north to intersect with 2 and 5, giving those two an alternative route downtown.
It can be. Trains get crowded very easily during the morning rush. However, there are more trains running during both the morning and afternoon rushes. It does help with the crowds.
You really need to do one for Metolinx's regional rail services, especially now that we are heading into S-Bahn territory in the Greater Golden Horseshoe.
@@MetroLiner I think the big mistake in this video is when you accidentally called Bloor station "Bloor-Yonge" when before line 2 I think it was just called bloor. Besides that this is a good video.
It's a substantial & useful system, by North American standards, and still evolving. I can't help thinking, though, this ~75 years of subway development is equal to about 5 years of just about any Chinese metro! Different political system, different municipal (and societal) priorities, etc, etc.
Line 4 expansion ideas: I’m thinking instead of east to Sheppard east, they actually should continue it down one station to Scarborough centre after Sheppard east, just to avoid people having to switch lines just to go ONE stop on line 2. (A lot of people on line 4 going east are probably headed to Scarborough centre) Also, the extension west should go farther than Sheppard west. All the way to Weston road I’d propose.
There are more destinations on Ellesmere east of Scarborough Centre, which is also a transit hub and major destination, so you are correct that it should turn to STC. Sheppard Ave W does not have much West of Downsview Park and ends at Weston. Sheppard east of Scarborough Centre, west of Downsview could use BRT and signal priority. It should go to Sheppard W Stn, Downsview Park station for GO Barrie line connection, and Finch West for Finch West line. One transfer across north Toronto. I actually wish Finch West could be subway to eventually be part of Sheppard line for a continuous trip across the north end.
I’d like to see Sheppard extend onto Jane, if they ever plan a rapid transit line on that corridor after the cancellation of the LRT. Good candidate for a western expansion of the Ontario line
As of 2023, the Shanghai Metro has 20 operational lines: Line 1 (opened in 1993) Line 2 (opened in 1999) Line 3 (opened in 2000) Line 4 (opened in 2005) Line 5 (opened in 2003) Line 6 (opened in 2007) Line 7 (opened in 2009) Line 8 (opened in 2007) Line 9 (opened in 2007) Line 10 (opened in 2010) Line 11 (opened in 2009) Line 12 (opened in 2013) Line 13 (opened in 2010) Line 14 (opened in 2021) Line 15 (opened in 2021) Line 16 (opened in 2013) Line 17 (opened in 2017) Line 18 (opened in 2020) Pujiang Line (opened in 2018, automated people mover line) Maglev Line (opened in 2002, high-speed maglev train)
Still feels like most of this, apart from the stuff up into Vaughan and Richmond hill is at least a good decade or more behind. Glad to finally see some progress though.
Tiny nitpick about the name of the station at Sheppard and Yonge - before 2002 when Line 4 opened, it was just called Sheppard station. I eagerly await the Ontario Line and the northern extensions though.
Its unfathomable for a city this big and wealthy to see how much time it took (almost 70 years) to actually serve the downtown core with more than 1 line. Pathetic.
IMO they were better off constructing a Line on Lawrence from Port Union to Pearson considering how long the Eglinton Crosstown is taking to be completed. I'm also Surprised that a north / south line in the west end is not apart of the city's vision. I think a Dufferin line from exhibition to Finch or Steeles makes sense or potentially a Jane or Bathurst line. The Finch West Line should be connected with Line 2 in Scarborough and the Sheppard line should extend west to the connect with the western portion of line 1 at a minimum. Just my thoughts but what do i know...
I'm thinking building a subway along Lawrence Avenue west from Allan Road to Kipling would be beneficial. There is a lot of traffic every day on that street.
There is a lot of traffic on lots of streets. Subways cost $350 Million per km, so they need to be placed only in strategic locations where capacity is critical. For other locations, Light Rail and Commuter Rail are much more cost effective.
They tried with Lower Bay Station back in 1966, but was closed after 6 months of being built. I don’t think TTC has any plans to build an elevated rail system.
@@ClassicGuy57 the Ontario Line From north of Cosburn to Science Centre will be elevated, as well as some sections of of the western extension of Line 5 Eglinton.
I think UP express should be on this map. I know technically it's a train route and it's above ground, but it kinda functions like a TTC extension at least that's how I feel
As a native Torontonian, I got to admit I was pleasantly surprised to see this video on the TTC Subway. Other than Lines 5 and 6 being stated as the "Sheppard" when it should say "Eglinton" and "Finch West" respectively at 3:30, this is an overall awesome video! I honestly never thought I would see the subway system of my hometown featured on this channel. :)
I Hope they include a Line 7 (Sheppard East *Supplementary LRT Line)
*In the event Line 4 ran into certain incidents to the point the subway service is suspended this LRT Line above it will take over the service No More Buses
@@alexanderip1003 I want lakeshoree
2030 map is nearly a century late...
at the very least half a century late..
this is no where near enough
Better late than never.
@@alexanderip1003 You're beyond stupid. Why would they make the least used line in the system the only redundant one?
Even though the Sheppard line is underutilized, I am very surprised that the Sheppard East line will not connect with the Sheppard West station. This would be an ideal relief line during other line shutdowns.
Far too logical for Toronto
I have the same question why they don't connect that part, people are not using it because there;s no connection, once there is east-west Sheppard that line will be so busy as people are trying to avoid using 2 different 84 east and 84 west buses
Ikr, I live in the North York area and it bothers me how I have to transfer from Sheppard West to Sheppard-Yonge by using a bus and then transferring again by the subway to reach Don Mills, the TTC would always say that it's because of low ridership but it's not really the case since a lot of college/university students could utilize the extension and eliminate the east-west transfer at Yonge Street just like in Eglinton. And theoritically it would cost less than the now under construction Scarborough Subway Extension. But I guess it's Toronto what do you expect lmao
@@fredbryce8263 I always thought eventually they would connect them, since I see the frequency of 84 Sheppard buses surpasses other routes every time I'm waiting for buses at Sheppard West (former Downsview station)
I am SO SO SO very sure, people living mid way Eglington north shall they wanted to go east or west they would ditch going south to use line 2, instead they would use the connected Sheppard line if that line exist .....that is a major traffic directed north helping to ease line 2 for people work, live and tourists in the downtown area ......Once the Eglington goes into operation and line 2 is less congested then we will understand the importance of east-west Sheppard since the city is expanded further north, Vaughan is growing this line will prove to be very critical in helping to distribute the traffics in line 1 and 2
Was always surprised that Toronto only had one line for the West-East axis.
The original plans in the 1960s was for two east-west lines. One on Bloor/Danforth and the second on Queen Street in Downtown. Original segment of BD line was built but then the Queen line was delayed. Instead the BD line was extended deeper into the suburbs because that got the politicians new votes. The Queen line was planned and delayed multiple times for several decades. Now the plan is called the Ontario Line project. Construction is planned this decade and its expected to open by 2030.
In downtown Toronto East to west is covered by street cars
@@strawberry7799a so in other
words, it can still be delayed for several decades. Let’s face it the first hole has just been dug 8 years to build 15 km is pretty pathetic. May as well include a monorail someone wants to build.
Eglinton won't suffice as an east west line, so we'll still only really have one, because they insist on putting in these LRTs that suck, we should have sheppard line from east to west in place of that finch LRT nonsense.
*clears throat* ONE Line?
2060 - "guys we are finishing Eglinton line this year!"
2100 - "We are going to announce the announcement of the possible opening for next year of Line 5!"
After 2 years: Best comment ever.
sad but at the rate they are going
Needs more likes
For every decade you experience on earth, 1 year of construction passes on the LRT
One small correction: the Ontario line isn't going to be a light metro, the trains will be slightly smaller than the main lines but they are still normal subway trains, 5 cars long and 3m wide.
Im pretty certain it is a light metro using trains similar to what Montreal will use for its REM line.
It is a light metro. That is what it’s called.
A light metro is a metro system with smaller trains. Look at the rt.
Half of Line 5 will be a light metro because they use a smaller vehicle than the main cars
It is by Hitachi, using their light metro trains (similar to TRTC's EMU101
Line 5 is a light rail, not a light metro.
Gotta love that their proposed plan leaves the dumbest gap in transit between the two forks of line 2, when that would be another way to massively reduce stress on the transit system.
Subways are stupid. During construction, co2 emissions are too high, they cost 5 times as much as trams per mile, and they’re just an excuse to keep running cars on the surface, instead of using trams to take away car lanes.
@@ncard00that’s just North American cost evaluations, it’s always going to be more expensive than Europe or Asia. You can build more trams to serve more people in many areas in Subway but people usually don’t travel on trams that long and is more of a local service than a crosstown subway that feeds to. That’s why Don Mills LRT is replaced by the Ontario Line and future extensions.
Trams are not sufficient to handle this much people in Toronto, line 5 Eglinton being a downgraded LRT from a subway cancelled decades ago still has the original segments planned built as subways. Many people presume that it will be overcrowded when it opens and many choke points when it starts to run in mix traffic. Let alone how much would it even be any faster than some alternative or comparable trips.
It doesn’t help either that these LRT’s are replacing the busiest bus corridors, but also have a bunch of development on the same one, like Eglinton.
@@ncard00 in Toronto, the streetcars (trams) tracks are shared with cars, making them really slow. subways also have alot more capacity and speed than streetcars
@@ncard00 Trams are significantly slower whilst costing too much to justify their price tag (at least in NA). Trams should never be considered as a replacement for Subways, they're more or less just glorified busses in the context of a transit network.
Nice job!! Just wanted to point out that the Scarborough RT (Line 3) actually closes next year in 2023!! There will be a 7 year gap until the subway extension opens, so service will be replaced by busses. They are currently planning to repurpose the SRT right of way to create a bus transit way tho!!
Why they (TTC) will closing the Scarborough RT service?
Holy cow I didn’t think it was next year
@@muhammadfariz2839 The train cabs have way outlived its lifespan. It would be very expensive to maintain these cabs.
@@sebastianperez8023 , what about changing to another train cabs?
I think it's because the shuttle buses that will be used for next year will still be branded as Line 3 until the subway extension and the Ontario Line (future Line 3) opens but I might be wrong
Pleeease do Vancouver! it would be amazing to see, I think there are quite detailed future expansion plans
Not as many as Toronto.
Only one UBC line for future project that's all
They don't even have budget for Surrey-Langley skytrain
@@nedhappily they actually have proposed plans for many decades into the future, you need to download the PDFs to check it out, the Langley connection was delayed due to covid
@@rowanguy9528 Yea they always plan stuff but no money to build.
Toronto and Montreal took most of the federal budget to build stuff.
The Langley extension delayed not only because of COVID but also waiting for money. (Just saw the news last month)
COVID was the best excuse they can mention.
Pandemic also hit Ontario and Quebec hard but that didn't stop projects in Toronto and Montreal.
I don't think the construction will happen by 2025. Very typical BC thing
@@nedhappily The GVRD currently has a longer pure RT system than the entire GTA, with just over 1/3 the population. That lead won't be tied by the Ontario Line either. The GTA's RT system is truly pathetic, although there is potential to significantly upgrade the streetcar system to significantly speed it up. If only Toronto would do it.
Vancouver is getting a transit system? It’s about time! You have enough people for a system.
This was soo cool to see! I used to work up by hi tech and saw them surveying the area and they said it was for the new subway! THAT would have made getting from Wilson subway to Richmond Hill SOOOOO much easier and faster!
Lets Go! Another one from the Legend himself: MetroLiner!!!!!!!
I used to study at Humber College and live in accommodation there. A subway line from there would be so dang helpful... Took like 2 hours to get to downtown one way...
Its not going to be much faster. What's being built is basically like a streetcar line similar to the Spadina Streetcar downtown: It might save around 5 minutes to get to Finch West Station, but overall it won't be much of an improvement.
@@Absolute_Zero7 I would say it will be faster than the Spadina Streetcar as stop spacing will be much farther apart, but not as fast as the subway. Speeds comparable to the current Harbourfront Streetcar, which doesn't have to wait at many lights given it's placement next to the water.
@@mxhe9457 egregious that LRT systems integrated into the rapid transit network would even have to stop at traffic lights.
@@Skyfoogle I agree, they absolutely should have done more for priority signalling on both Eglinton and Finch, but my point stands it will be faster than the Spadina Streetcar.
I just passed by there and saw the new station situated at the intersection of Highway 22, facing the hospital. Now they have the bus terminal right infront of the Guelph University, students get off cross the street and enter the college .....back in 2010 I took the Finch bus and had to walk from the bus stop to the college which takes like 7-10mins ....and when you're late durring exam days that 10mins was really something, not to mention winter snowy and icy weather .
One correction: Sheppard-Yonge station wasn’t always known as “Sheppard-Yonge” before the Sheppard Subway Line was opened in 2002. The station was known as Sheppard Station. It was renamed in part of the station having a direct, at foot connection to line 4.
As a Native Torontonian I am very happy to see this video.
Metrolinx the government agency overseeing the construction of
Eglinton Crosstown/Eglinton/Line 5 is Aiming for an Opening Date of 9 OCTOBER 2022
I have my doubts they will make that deadline but if they do that'd be amazing.
@@AutoGamerZ_ Indeed
But it is GOOD that they are trying to start service before 2023
Metrolinx may open Crosstown and By-pass Eglinton Station for a short time due the mess with the state of utilities underneath Eglinton and above the Station Box for Line 5
From what I have read October is simply the date when construction will finish. Testing and training for TTC crews will then begin. Revenue service is likely to be seen in early 2023.
@@strawberry7799a Some testing is already done, these vehicles are similar to those that run Downtown so training should not be very long period
Hey Fellow 416er over here -- I always wondered why they never wanted to do some kind of partial operability here like what they do in Singapore..... They open their lines in phases.
0:45 Wow, what an interesting 3-route system, interlining trial in 1966.
Toronto has really grown since I moved away in 1988. I wish they'd build a decent RT line here in London but all we are getting is a lousy bus lane in a decade from now.
Because of electric buses unless the route is very high traffic a electric bus would be cheaper.
Fired
Sheppard East and Sheppard - Yonge ................needs to connect to Sheppard West. This would make so much SENSE!!!
The fact that 2024 is over and neither the Eglinton Crosstown nor the Finch West lines have an opening date in sight…. 💀💀💀
Finch West should be expanded to Finch East, and Sheppard should definitely be extended to McCowan to the east and Shep. W to the west.
Also, dear fellow Torontonians, do not underestimate how much relief the Ontario Line is going to provide once it opens!!! The route is genius and I wish the next 10 years would fly lol...
And of course our government is gonna "extend" Line 4 by making it an lrt. Either extend the subway of get rid of it.
Meanwhile, Scarborough was closed ahead of schedule and we're twiddling our thumbs waiting for Line 5.
Nice video! I believe Line 4 Extending to connect with Line 2 Extension should happen because the existing Line 4 we got is so mediocre. If Line 4 extends to McCowan it will be more useful due to its connection/interchange with Line 2 & Line 4 would also fulfill its original proposal of ending up in Scarborough. I feel like some of the other Lines can be extended as well possibly Ontario Line be extended North to Don Mills Station to connect with Line 4 & I think it'd be nice for Line 6 to extend South to Woodbine Ctr, Pearson Airport & I think it'd be nice if Line 6 could terminate at Kipling Station taking a route similar to the proposed Etobicoke RT & finally make good use of the abandoned trackbed at Kipling Station
4:40 that just makes sense to connect to the airport. I hope it goes forward past "proposed".
It would help with all the frequent commuters that go to airport often via UP EXPRESS and the 900 bus from Kipling Station to Pearson.
It is part of the official plan for the line, the problem is the line would've connected to the new Transit Hub (Union Station West) that the GTAA (Greater Toronto Airport Authority) was planning. Problem is COVID completely screwed up the GTAA's finances, and now those plans for a Transit Hub are up in limbo.
For what its worth its not strictly necessary. There is already a train service to the Airport (UP Express), which will have a transfer to Line 5 at Mount Dennis Station (the initial western terminus of Line 5).
it's so nice to know that there will be rapid transit where I live when I am dead.
The Scarborough RT was new when I was a kid, and ever since then I had a feeling it would be scrapped eventually. It's so janky and kinda useless as a separate train system.
you also gotta remember that Scarborough was somehow capital rich enough to pull this off pre amalgamation. they took it into their hands to serve their community. post amalgamation...well ...City of Toronto has how many billions of infrastructure upkeep they are behind on? It does make you wonder what the outer boroughs couldve done without amalgamation....another what if
@@AreYouEddie Amalgamation had little impact on transit planning. The TTC was always run by Metro Toronto, which was comprised of the various municipalities that make up modern Toronto. Scarborough got Line 3 for the same reason why North York got the Yonge North and Spadina Subways, and why a Queen Subway was never built. Its because suburban voices made up a large portion of Metro Toronto leadership, frankly no different from the current state of affairs post-amalgamation.
The hairpin-shaped line is interesting, as is the transfer-free thing they attempted
Line 4 and 6 should be connected and merged into one line.
Do you mean line 4 and line 6? Cause line 5 and line 4 are pretty far apart.
From what I know Line 6 is basically similar to the original Line 4 design. Line 4 was meant to go west of Yonge st along Shepherds avenue and farther east through Scarborough along Shepherds avenue. That plan, as well as two other subway projects, were canceled controversially during construction. What is left of line 4 was all that survived.
I assume you mean Line 4 and Line 6. Issue is that Line 4 uses subway trains while Line 6 is actually a tram. The vehicles are not compatible and the stations have different platform heights.
@@Kishanth.J Yep
I'm totally supporting this
I live in Toronto specifically in the North York district and I believe that every single person here wants an improvement for Line 4, as of now it's the only Line that doesn't have any active plans or extensions since opening, Line 1 has an extension on the Yonge part, Line 2 has an extension to Sheppard East , and then Line 5 to Renforth, but they chose to literally stay silent on Line 4 (wtf). Line 4 was literally the white elephant of the system besides Line 3, and it would be a shame if they would just leave it like that and not extend it to Sheppard West and Sheppard East.
I live in Toronto too. I don't want improvements for line 4
Seconded. Don’t care about line 4.
for line 4 to be successful it needs to somehow close the loop on both sides. there once was a plan for it to go to the zoo and then a LRT plan for that during the miller days. now it's just inconvenient to take especially since the TTC doesn't have a distance based fare system.... if they did, people could hop on and off it ...
I love in scarborough and i wonder why its so short
I’m on your side with Line 4. I believe it should be extended west and east. It would relieve a lot of congestion during other line closures.
The final project is what Toronto subway map should look like now. Sad this won’t come to fruition for another 10+ years
It seems you accidentally kept Sheppard up as the names for Lines 5 & 6
Oh no… How did I not see that :’(
Until 2002, as you nearly forget, there were the 60x series routes for subways.
- 601 BLOOR-DANFORTH
- 602 YONGE-UNIVERSITY-SPADINA
- 603 SCARBOROUGH RT
- 604 HARBOURFRONT LRT (adopted the 510 number from 1996).
The 1-4 numbering became available for internal use in 2002 and formally introduced to the public in late 2013.
I can use my senior discount to ride the Ontario line if I am still alive in 2047!
lmao
Wish Ontario line extended to lakeshore/mimico area somehow. There are a lot of residential developments there. The traffic in that area is pretty horrendous as well. Adding more transit there would make an often traffic induced 1 hour trip only 15 minutes.
As someone from South Etobicoke, I agree
Who loves this guy and his content
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Do Chicago next! Your videos are so well done
2023 will be a big year for the system! It's a crime that nothing was opened between 2003 and 2017.
What was the reason for no openings during this time?
@@tusanthaya1970 Poor planning and cuts in the 1990s. There was a subway line under construction which the Conservative government at the time cancelled and filled in the hole that was already dug...
@@stephen9609 You forgot to mention the subway crash of 1995. The government felt that the TTC couldn't handle the system properly and further broke down it's budget and power until the safety measures were properly put into place.
I hope the weekly closure between Lawrence and St Clair will end by then
Here we are at almost 2025 and nothing has changed. Eglinton STILL not finished. Metrolinx testing the unsuspected sand deposits everywhere.
Maybe you could make a part 2 which shows the Go train lines mixed in with our TTC?
good idea.
Wow didn't know some of these were in the works.. very exciting
Isn't there a proposal to also extend the new Eglinton LRT from Kennedy Subway station further along Eglinton then across Kingston Road to Morningside Ave eventually coming to an end at U of T Scarborough Campus?
Yes
That will be a separate line….referred to as Line 7.
Our subway line really hasn’t changed much in 50 years. Here we are almost 2025 and the Eglington line isn’t finished. Construction going on for about 20 years now. None of this future metrolinx will be completed by 2040 let alone 2030.
Great video! Keep up the excellent work!
Personal opinion, I think Line 1 should split in twain at Union. I’m not really a huge fan of a U shaped metro line, especially one this close to each other downtown. (Sorry RM Transit lol)
Splitting the line will help the operator run the trains more efficiently, but for passengers the U shape is quite helpful! The parallel stations in downtown are walking distances from each other and also connected by streetcars, but many passengers still chose to go around the "U" via Union when travelling between downtown and the northern part of the line especially during cold snowy winters.
@@MetroLiner True, but those parallel stations in downtown are only a couple blocks away from each other, some even interconnected underground, getting a U shaped thru service doesn’t make it much better when that is considered
@@MaxCheng95 The U is necessary to connect the lines to Wilson Yard. Otherwise the eastern half (including sheppard line) would have to be serviced only @ Davisville yard which is smaller than Wilson. For logistical reasons the city should have finished connecting sheppard east station towards sheppard west station (use to be downsview) so that trains on sheppard line and eastern section could easily connect to wilson yard.
@@quoclongly4365 Splitting the line doesn’t mean splitting the infrastructures as well. It’s actually pretty common for subways to share rail yards between different lines and I was referring to splitting service blocks, not the infrastructures
@@MaxCheng95 can't say I'm sure what the point of that would be. for people close to or east of yonge who want to get on the university line, it would just add an unnecessary transfer at union. and nobody likes transfers, were spending $5.5 billion just to eliminate a transfer at kennedy.
it would maybe give the TTC more frequency control between the two segments of the line, but I feel the benefits would be negligible as they're both very busy.
Maybe someone can critique my suggestion on why they shouldn't make a line from existing line 1 to go eat/west along Steeles? What a great hub that would have been to connect the city of Toronto with the 905ers. I know, $$, but density wise it just makes sense IMO.
I lived in Scarborough from 1975 - 2001 and I would have killed to have that Sheppard line from Sheppard East to the Finch line. Would have saved me so much of my life that was wasted taking busses for hours every day.
Stay away until they make sure they're not making an lrt east of don mills.
This looks very simple. I can't say that it's bad but maybe there are some options to differ the routes of the lines, so there are more connections. But there will be a logic behind these plans, so I don't complain about it
I'm in my 60's and I grew up in Willowdale. I recall the first expansions of the Yonge St. line first to York Mills then to Finch. I thought that in the next 10 years, it was going to hit Newmarket. Then we got Criminal Lastman to screw everything up including his Sheppard Stump.
In 70 years, we now have about 76 km of subway with one of the highest fares in the world. Shanghai has about 8 times as much, faster service, and fares as high as $2 for a long ride, $0.50 for a short trip. Rome's subway is around the same length. But a monthly pass is around $50.
The TTC, once the envy of the world, now a public, mismanaged joke
You pretty much hit the point. All these people who try to push people to go take a transit instead of driving should read it. It really explains why people are still insist of driving instead of taking the transit even with gas price at all time high right now. Transit system in GTA is expensive, slow and unreliable. The subway system is getting partially shut down almost every week now. A good example is it only takes me like 20-25 mins to drive to work, and it'll take hour 45 mins to 2 hours + with transit. It is really a no brainer to choose which way to travel.
@@Guncannon If your city actually managed to build a decent system over the core to various suburbs in all that time they had, it would have actually been good for a lot of people, with good prices.
@@marcrchz yea well politics
why tf would it go to Newmarket when we already have the Barrie GO line? it's exactly this kind of thinking that led to too much underground heavy rail in the suburbs leading to inadequate capacity where it's actually needed (downtown relief line).
and what tf does Mel Lastman have to do with anything? His original plan was a subway from Downsview to McCowan/STC. it was the 90s recession and Rae's cuts that created the line 4 stump.
@@maxjohnson8659 I guess you have difficulties with simple math. In the 70s, I was a young teenager. How TF would I know about all this at that time? It just appeared that the subway was forever going north. In a short time, it went from Eglington to Finch. And just because there is a GO line, that doesn't eliminate the need for a subway line.
Lastman demanded control over the TTC, and as such, the provincial gov't said fine, you want it your way, then you pay. So, to answer your ignorant comment, when Mel realized his funds ran short, he petitioned developers to kick back some coin if he increased density. It wasn't Bob Rea that made the Sheppard Stump, it was the guy who went to jail; Mel Lastman.
Are you one of Lastman's illegitimate children?
Perfect! This video shows how advanced the Canadian public transit is. Just look at the speed! The scale! The quality! The agility! Just look at how well they managed to update and scale up the infrastructures with the population increase!
These are all the marvels of importing temporary Tim Hortons workers to this country.
correct me if I'm wrong but it feels like you have to take at least two trains to get anywhere in this system.
Yes. As a Torontonian, I can say that is the case..
sort of yes, but you must relisie the trains come every 3-10 mintues depending on time of say, 10 being night. aswell the bus system is fantastic and its no big deal having to transfer.
@@Humulator Bus system is fantastic my rear end, you've clearly never lived near the outskirts of Toronto.
@@shawnpitman876 you are correct my guy, i have only ever really lived in the downtown areas but i have been to the suburbs and oh god its annoying there
@@Humulator Then I'd suggest shutting up about the transit system, because they've made sure you core dwelling hipsters have been taken care of for literally longer than you've been alive, but the city exists outside of that area, and a good MAJORITY of the ridership of the TTC resides outside of the core.
Could you please do Milan? I'm Italian and I just started watching your videos, they're amazing
I remember learning about the 3 way system that existed in 1966 until it was scrapped....now my question is - what would happen had the closed down 3rd line remained (Bloor-University-Yonge) open, would new stations appear out of it, would Wilson Station even exist, or Finch, or Kipling ?? -
Only in an alternate reality, Lower Bay is still alive and running.....
Would be great to see Go and UPE lines and connections as well. There are several extension and stations being built.
The UP express only have 4 stops what’s the point of making a video on that
@@brianly100 it will have 6 stops in the future (Mount Pleasant and Stockyards being added) but still agreed, not worth a video lol
Lakeshore East will be connecting with the Ontario Line I believe.
Thanks for the video. Hope, we will see Montreal Subway - probably, the only system in the world, where the whole line (opened for EXPO67) was scrapped
A minor error, not sure if this has been pointed out before (maybe by me...) but "Sheppard-Yonge" station wasn't called that until the Sheppard line opened in 2002. It was called "Sheppard" station before then.
its stupid not to extend the Sheppard line west of Yonge to the other north-south subway, smart to do it, and its such a short distance.
It would have been nice for the Sheppard 4 line was extended to the other half of the #1 yellow line where the #6 begins. Although extending it east is a somewhat good compromise.
Repurposing the 3 line to serve a new corridor is a good idea. As it was never really meant to be a branch line.
All in All, it looks like traveling by rail would be a whole lot easier by 2035.
I'm also aware that Toronto has Light Rail, which if it should expand, would put Toronto on the map as a world class city.
They should throw in the GO train along with this, as people use it in a similar manner to subway for getting around.
@@SyntaxOverflowThere is a GO Train. It's at Downsview Park Station.
Very nice. Very accurate as well. 👍☺️
Yikes, all the branches feed the Yonge line as if it were the 'trunk'. That's a lot of pressure on one single line to central downtown. It'd be great if they could swing the west end of the Ontario line back north to intersect with 2 and 5, giving those two an alternative route downtown.
Thank you, so helpful
Haven't used the Toronto metro, but it seems like it might be difficult to transfer from green to yellow in the morning rush. Is that the case?
It can be. Trains get crowded very easily during the morning rush.
However, there are more trains running during both the morning and afternoon rushes. It does help with the crowds.
You really need to do one for Metolinx's regional rail services, especially now that we are heading into S-Bahn territory in the Greater Golden Horseshoe.
everytime I watch this I feel sad at how slow we are at building public transportation lol
I'm curious, what tool do you use to make these line illustrations
I am using Adobe After Effects
@@MetroLiner I think the big mistake in this video is when you accidentally called Bloor station "Bloor-Yonge" when before line 2 I think it was just called bloor. Besides that this is a good video.
Subway directly to Pearson airport would be dooope
It's a substantial & useful system, by North American standards, and still evolving. I can't help thinking, though, this ~75 years of subway development is equal to about 5 years of just about any Chinese metro! Different political system, different municipal (and societal) priorities, etc, etc.
the chinese government has a lot of money… also mass transit is way more profitable in a populous country.
Nice work! Why not include the Union Station/International Airport route?
The “Toronto Subway” just means the lines run by the TTC, the UP and the GO Trains are run by metrolinx, so not included.
Line 4 expansion ideas:
I’m thinking instead of east to Sheppard east, they actually should continue it down one station to Scarborough centre after Sheppard east, just to avoid people having to switch lines just to go ONE stop on line 2. (A lot of people on line 4 going east are probably headed to Scarborough centre) Also, the extension west should go farther than Sheppard west. All the way to Weston road I’d propose.
There are more destinations on Ellesmere east of Scarborough Centre, which is also a transit hub and major destination, so you are correct that it should turn to STC. Sheppard Ave W does not have much West of Downsview Park and ends at Weston. Sheppard east of Scarborough Centre, west of Downsview could use BRT and signal priority. It should go to Sheppard W Stn, Downsview Park station for GO Barrie line connection, and Finch West for Finch West line. One transfer across north Toronto. I actually wish Finch West could be subway to eventually be part of Sheppard line for a continuous trip across the north end.
I’d like to see Sheppard extend onto Jane, if they ever plan a rapid transit line on that corridor after the cancellation of the LRT. Good candidate for a western expansion of the Ontario line
The legend for line 5 and 6 is incorrect, I think you forgot to change from Sheppard to Eglington and Finch West.
I wish there was a way to connect line 4 and line 6 together. There’s so much gap in middle
Line 6 is an tram, line 4 is a subway
In the video of the Mexico City subway, it is missing to put the expansions towards 203
They should rename the Kipling line 5 to Kipling north and Islington to Islington North
that is all well and good but please attempt the GO Transit (Est.1967) as well
What software do you use to make these maps?
really nice!
I am so happy for ttc
I ❤️ this video.
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Well done, thank you - very informative.
The Way TTC changes is awesome! Sad to see Line 3 Scarborough to close permanently tho.
When line 5 opened in 2022? When?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_5_Eglinton
It's opening in fall or winter 2022
Like 3 has actually closed down as of Saturday September 23rd.
As of 2023, the Shanghai Metro has 20 operational lines:
Line 1 (opened in 1993)
Line 2 (opened in 1999)
Line 3 (opened in 2000)
Line 4 (opened in 2005)
Line 5 (opened in 2003)
Line 6 (opened in 2007)
Line 7 (opened in 2009)
Line 8 (opened in 2007)
Line 9 (opened in 2007)
Line 10 (opened in 2010)
Line 11 (opened in 2009)
Line 12 (opened in 2013)
Line 13 (opened in 2010)
Line 14 (opened in 2021)
Line 15 (opened in 2021)
Line 16 (opened in 2013)
Line 17 (opened in 2017)
Line 18 (opened in 2020)
Pujiang Line (opened in 2018, automated people mover line)
Maglev Line (opened in 2002, high-speed maglev train)
WELL DONE, BUT HOW ABOUT TTC STREETCAR?
Still feels like most of this, apart from the stuff up into Vaughan and Richmond hill is at least a good decade or more behind. Glad to finally see some progress though.
you are missing the go trains (s bahn). we are NOT decades behind. By 2030 we actually have a great system for Toronto’s size
Tiny nitpick about the name of the station at Sheppard and Yonge - before 2002 when Line 4 opened, it was just called Sheppard station.
I eagerly await the Ontario Line and the northern extensions though.
I’m lovin it!
Pretty optimistic showing Line 5 / Eglinton in operation in the 2030s, don’t you think?
they said they might open this year…. might….
Its unfathomable for a city this big and wealthy to see how much time it took (almost 70 years) to actually serve the downtown core with more than 1 line. Pathetic.
Line 3 closed earlier this year, after an accident in August, it was supposed to close November 2023. It's been officially shut down now
This was before
Boston sometime soon? Just added new stations on the Green Line!
IMO they were better off constructing a Line on Lawrence from Port Union to Pearson considering how long the Eglinton Crosstown is taking to be completed. I'm also Surprised that a north / south line in the west end is not apart of the city's vision. I think a Dufferin line from exhibition to Finch or Steeles makes sense or potentially a Jane or Bathurst line. The Finch West Line should be connected with Line 2 in Scarborough and the Sheppard line should extend west to the connect with the western portion of line 1 at a minimum. Just my thoughts but what do i know...
Not to mention the Ellington crosstown isn’t even a real
Subway in most part of Scarborough it’s just a huge glorified street car
Line 3 is permanently closed as of 2024.
I'm thinking building a subway along Lawrence Avenue west from Allan Road to Kipling would be beneficial. There is a lot of traffic every day on that street.
There is a lot of traffic on lots of streets. Subways cost $350 Million per km, so they need to be placed only in strategic locations where capacity is critical. For other locations, Light Rail and Commuter Rail are much more cost effective.
This is the progress in 76 years! lol
This shouldve already been there and needed to cover the whole GTA!!
I personally think that it would be a good idea to extend the shepherd line to shepherd west
Is there no plan for eglington LRT east extension
Should've been like this years ago. Also, they could've utilized elevated rails more.
Y ES
They tried with Lower Bay Station back in 1966, but was closed after 6 months of being built.
I don’t think TTC has any plans to build an elevated rail system.
@@ClassicGuy57 the Ontario Line From north of Cosburn to Science Centre will be elevated, as well as some sections of of the western extension of Line 5 Eglinton.
I think UP express should be on this map. I know technically it's a train route and it's above ground, but it kinda functions like a TTC extension at least that's how I feel
Does anyone know what software they would have used to make the animation for this video?
I think that that the TTC should expand on the areas between line 1 and line 2 that’s aren’t connected, 1 West of line 1 one east of line 1.
Wow you did my city 😍 can you do Montreal?
2024 Line 3 is gone the Scarborough line
Toronto TTC
Line 1 1954
Line 2 1966
Line 3 (2030) 1985
Line 4 2002
Line 5 2023
Line 6 2023