The Indians Called It the Grave of White Men: The Creek Holy Ground, Alabama, December 1813 (ep 6)
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- In this video we read from "The Creek War of 1813 and 1814," by Henry S. Halbert and Timothy S. Ball, published all the way back in 1895. This is episode 6 of 7 in our series on the Creek War.
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I grew up in the area around there, between the Alabama and Chattahoochee river, have a large collection of arrow heads, other artifacts from the plowed fields.
If you see red clay or dirt in those plowed fields,that's where fires were built,and a great place to look.
Ive dug a number of fire pits. Do tell, why are they red down there ?@markpaul-ym5wg
I should have said painted.Also,a one of a kind 4 lb stone corn grinder.
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That's cool, there are arrowheads everywhere in north America.
Native Americans were great stewards of the environment but stone age weapons going against firearms will lose in the long run.
It's sad, look at our north American environment in 2024 compared to just 300 years ago.
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Thank you from SE England, UK.
My 3rd great grandfather… settled near Brady Texas. He had an old Black powder shoot gun for protection,
Listening regularly from up north 🇨🇦👍
I like your channel. My oldest book about US history is 210 years old. So much history to discover.
Antiquarian history books are the most authentic.
Best wishes.
Thank you brother for all your efforts
As always another great story!
Looking forward to the final Jackson segment. Andrew jacksons army took the black warrior path south from meltons bluff. You may want to mention John Melton, he was an Irishman who married into the Cherokee tribe & became a pirate on the Tennessee river. Loving this channel btw
Wow . Thanks for the video
My 3rd-4th great grandfather is William "Red Eagle" Weatherford.
In the near future I plan on taking a trip down south and want to see, and learn more about it all. Specifically the RedSticks and my Weatherford Ancestory.
Do you have any good links to info. I’m coming up with him as an ancestor as well but not sure I’m convinced it’s accurate
A well documented & narrated history of the times. Thank you sir for your video 74+🍁 hunter Yorkshire expat
Not pronounced 'Flower-noy', but *Floor-noy.* Great 👍🏻 video; Thanks for making it. 😊
Jackson did not seek any personal fame over his interests on Indian affairs. He was the ONLY one who from the very beginning DEMANDED the same pay for all the Choctaw/Cherokee forces. He ended betraying all of them , "TYPICAL MAN of his time".
Never heard of Tecumseh saying that no one woukd be harmed if they fought at some river.. I only heard of Tecumseh telling the Creeks to unite against the U.S in order to stop expansion into the tribes homes .. some Creeks agreed..some didn't
👍👍👍 That's 100% correct !!! He did "learn" a few tricks from the Europeans with the intention to gain followers and send fears to the enemy. He did become a "showman" with all the horses black in color and many other "things".
Same situation with "Jim Boy" and "Paddy Walsh".
Awesome! Thanks
Being of Choctaw, Creek , and white colonialists of both Ga , Alabama and Fla this story fits with what . I've been told of the strife between my ancestors !
Fantastic video! Thanks
The Indians were big on the magic that made them bullet proof… imagine they often found out differently 😃
Is interesting I have heard about these Indians using cow tails dyed red as Totems, have to wonder how something like would start
Hello again my Indian friend
Anyway what can you tell me about Indian owned casinos' any info would be much appreciated' thank you sir Darren m.😊
...the Creek in this situation are a good example of the willingness of a people to turn on each other to the benefit of those who would undermine and overthrow their autonomy...Tecumseh tried to unite the Creek to his movement, but they stayed divided to their detriment....an example of what not to be....
True, it’s also important to remember that there’s multiple reasons why the white sticks sided with the US, the Creek nation was never really a completely unified entity, the red sticks territory was way more isolated and far away from white settlements and influence than the white sticks, the white sticks towns at the start of the war were extremely close to the rapidly expanding white settlements, so if they were to go to war against the settlers then there towns would’ve been the first to feel the wrath of the settlers and could’ve been quickly overrun and destroyed. They also developed much closer ties to the settlers than the red sticks because they were so much closer to them and thus were forced to adopt more aspects of white culture. They were forced to start raising livestock after there hunting grounds were decimated by white settlement.
Trade. Another enticement. A big one the world over.
My name is Creek and my family came from Alabama but I did the DNA 🧬 testing and I’m Scottish English and Scandinavian. No creek Indian blood but I was told my whole life we were creek Indians from Alabama my family all had blue eyes and Germanic name’s Gertrude Rudolph Heubert Eva lol 😝 I was a little shocked when I got my DNA results but it is what it is a new mystery to solve
Update I found out that my grandma was from Florida and my grandfather was from Tennessee but they met and married in Alabama raised their children in Alabama and moved to California in the 1950 s but apparently my grandfather killed a man over a woman in Tennessee and moved to Alabama to escape the law and he might have taken the last name of creek because he had some creek friends and he took their name. Still checking on the specifics of the story apparently it was in the 1920s
DNA from 2 diff research sources & distant from each other come w/ exact same results, then be convinced.
Your DNA is split in half every generation. Your great grandfather or mother could've been full-blooded creek and it most likely wouldn't show up in a DNA test. Not to mention that there is very little DNA samples for the eastern tribes. If there was it would most likely have European, African, Polynesian, and Australian aboriginal DNA since all those groups were hear before the Asian nomads crossed the land bridge. Several tribes have stories about how they "found" this new land and the "moon eyed" people and black people who lived in big cities would attack them, take their women and children for slaves for centuries. The Delaware I think claimed that it was one of their medicine men who came up with the idea to kill some of the whites with black weapons and kill some of the blacks with white weapons which set off a war between them lasting many years. When it was over the red men swarmed out of the wilderness and finished em off. Some escaped by joining up with neutral red tribes or by hiding and eventually building there numbers up enough to stake claim to apiece of land somewhere. Several Spanish, French, English explorers write down the different people's they encountered in the new world. They talk about black, white, red tinted people. They talk about tribes who's shortest members were 7 ft tall and tribes who's tallest members were 4 ft tall.
I don't know how much of that is true but I do know if you learned it in school it's a lie when it comes to history.
Maybe a forebear was adopted
After a few generations it is possible to be without DNA from an ancestor
Apparently some of my family members have been working on a genealogy of the family and it traces back to Scottish royalty my Dna test did mention the Iberian peninsula but that was probably the Scandinavian as the Vikings are known to have settled on the Iberian peninsula but it very confusing to me because I have always been told that I was creek Indian and found out the results of my Dna test was Scottish English and Scandinavian.
So interesting. There is a large casino in Whitehall now.
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Have you done the Massacre of Massachusetts. I have a gggrandmother that was taken and married in Quebec. Do you have any stories of Canadian massacres.
Superstitions easily found false not likely to be honored by any tribe, not a foolish people, especially about battle tactic, they lived life in constant battle as a way of life
One of my dearest friends is a Great Great Grandfather of William Weatherford
Wow.... he must be realllllly old
18:23 fugitives 😂
Red Stick vs. White Stick plus Jackson's volunteer army plus. If Pushmataha's Cherokees and Choctaw don't help, American will lose the campaign.
?Pushmataha was Choctaw. The US wasn’t going to lose regardless. We had cities with more people than any Indian nation. Trade was also a big deal.
Correct. If him and the Cherokee don't join Jackson the campaign would have been longer. In reality the Federal government was reluctant to fight them and contemplating giving the land . It was "Old Hickory" and the East Tennessee volunteers who did move forward with the fight.@@HowardArnold-be9ly
Can you try to read like you most probably talk? The rising and falling intonations are so off putting.
It's an AI, not a human.
That's the dude reading dummy @@ittybittykittymama7582
I prefer some different intonation. Monotone puts me to sleep 😅
Exactly!
@@ittybittykittymama7582No it isn't. He shows himself at the end of videos thanking people. Can't believe you can't tell the difference.
Please stop mixing the TRUTH with LIES ❗️Wilma Lewis Standing for Stephanie Barkley